*@**8:45** wonder if the upright bare tree out of the hunting blind was new or intended to mimic deer antlers.* *@**9:13** are the mustard yellow circles on lower right pictographs?*
@@andriadobbs6774 that is what it’s all about, is listening to everything around us and shut the brain out for a minute and interpretation of the wind and the nature around it
GOOOOOD FIND! I spent all of the 1980s doing what you are doing in Northern Az and southern Nv. Minus google earth of course, I used old mining maps from libraries.
I think the hunting version is most likely but perhaps it was both just at different times. Some of these sites probably were used by generations of people as they move through. Love the drone and ambient sound section.
At 16:51 in the lower left of the screen there appears to be a small cave in the cliff face. Just to the left of that is the large crack in the cliff as well. Did you investigate that further?
Thank you for those few minutes of quiet. Coming up on the 4th of July and my neighborhoods is already sounding like a war zone. I so wish the Native Americans weren't involved in the sell of fireworks.
Jeff you’re awesome. I really enjoy your videos. Years ago I worked at Yucca Mountain in Nevada. Part of the research done there to determine how or if the climate was changing was for Archeologists to excavate pack rat nests. They found evidence that the area was drying. There were needles from pine trees that had been stored by the rats and those species of trees are now extinct in that area. Were these people living in a different climate 1,000 years ago? If it was a wetter climate there could have been more animals, specifically natural predators like wolves and bears. I would want my dwelling up away from those types of animals. The Navajo tribe has their own unique breed of sheep. Were some of these people herding domestic animals that they needed safe enclosures for? This last awesome video I watched had a substantial wall on the cliff side of the site. If I lived up there I would want a nice thick wall to block the north wind during the winter.
Your remark of why was that hill top was completely destroyed... It looks like their could have been an earthquake in this region because of the cliffs leaning out from the main rock, and the way the wall rocks look like they were shaken down and not toppled over by time.....just a thought!
High spot - signal tower, fire on top to alert/communicate to fellow tribesmen. Occurs all along the Mogollon rim; love your (our) hikes, brother! I Enjoy every one…
Awesome! I loved the extra ambient sounds. I was just thinking, you should do a short of the golden eagle. Like "golden eagle attacks drone." People would love that! ❤
@@TheTrekPlannerCool and please be careful of flash floods. Also what a wonderful idea to play the sounds. For someone who can't get out and enjoy nature anymore I'm grateful.
That is tuu tuu mii or Indian tea (not sure if I spelled it correct) which my ancestors have used and to this day we go and pick when its time. We are Paiute/Shoshone Indigenous Tribes from the Owens Valley.
Maybe the wall was to keep the children from wandering too close to the edge? Or maybe it was the wall of a dwelling? I don’t think all walls were necessarily defensive. I wonder if there’s a database somewhere of archaeological sites in the area where scientists have described them and recorded their hypotheses about how the sites were used and what they might have originally looked like. Cool find!
I have seen walls built by ranchers in the middle of the desert to restrict cattle movement. Maybe the wall is meant to keep cattle away from the edge.
Probably. I'd put my bet on the initial Spanish ranchers tho. Too well done and big for later ranchers. Reason being is the initial Spanish explorers traveled with LARGE parties rather than later single family ranchers. (I have a small ranch/farm and KNOW how next to impossible this kinda structure is to build alone or with just a couple helpers)
Im not sure its that hard, but you might be right. The Uk has 180,000 miles of drystone walls, the earliest are about 3000bc. Not usually that thick though. Slow work but its someting to do if you have taken your livestock up there. Could have happened for generations. @AbleMan.2178
My thinking was that people living on cliff edges would undoubtedly have younger children, and a wall would be an impediment before a curious child came to the edge of the cliff. It would also have a defensive purpose to deter incursions by other tribes.
@The Trek Planner One amazing aspect of having nearly a quarter of a million subscribers, which you already have, is that by taking each of us on these journeys, you are potentially saving the environment from who knows how many pairs of boots. Thank you.
Thank you for the sensory input. I could almost smell the place! As a mother, I can come up with a thousand reasons to have a low wall around my mesa! To me this looks like a good summer dwelling. The seep, the hunting advantages,the farming possibilities. Yeah 👍 sign me up!
I think it was a Gathering Place for the Tribes to meet and have fun. BTW... I really enjoy being on your hikes and very thankful for you. Thank you and God Bless.
this looks like the remains of a massive building to me... maybe not all sides had walls, and all wooden parts are gone... but the presence of water makes it livable...
Yes…it once was a massive red brick structure. An extreme heat event cooked and melted most of it down. Look into and research #Meltology #MeltedRedBrickUniversity
Been watching for a long time now I think this is my first comment though you do an outstanding job and I love your respect for everything. Thanks again for sharing.😁✌️
LOL, I felt you were talking about me and my comments. If I were 30 years younger, I would be out there, so once again, thank you for taking me along with you. It was a wonderful
@!17:18 to the right , it is a giant petrified ancient tree lying down . Follow that fallen tree to the base and according to the Spainards (1550 ad ) there will be precious minerals were thhe trees roots were . That would be called a VEIN . 🥇⛏⚒
YES on the nature sounds, used so well in the video. Curiosity and respect come through, something you share with Desert Drifter-very different but complementary approaches.
I think you are right about the walls being used to channel game to the cliff edge. More modern indigenous people did this at Buffalo Jump, Alberta. It isn't a logical defense nor dwelling design.
@@nthomas87 Granted the Earth's climate has been changing in recent times but I have some difficulty in envisioning the large herds of grassland herbivores placidly nibbling the verdant greenery up in those crags just waiting for the local tribes to scare them over the drop. Buffalo Jump sites are highly specific (and used over long periods, thus lots of evidence left) but that much human effort for the occasional solitary bighorn sheep etc (which would be more sure-footed and much more knowledgeable of the terrain than the local Tontos) seems counter-productive. 🤔😉😊
I rarely leave comments but I did love that ambient sound with the drone shots.. it did "put me right there" as you intended. I do not know about others but I vote for that all the time you drone shoot. Oh, I looked at others comments and I guess I am not the only one.. good thought you had there.. as a History buff I can tell you this is of great interest to me especially since in the last few years I have turned my attention on the America's and jhow they were settled.. Well, before I start teaching I will go.. carry on son.. you are doing a bang up job here.
I am so grateful you chose to leave a comment about the music! I debated about it for a while and wondered if the ambient sounds would be better at the end but decided to try to do it with the drone shots. I’m happy to hear it was enjoyable!! Thank you!
Absolutely beautiful - great drone footage too! You climb up the mountain scared me & yet I'm comfortably at home - glad you made it back down safely.🌎
In 1692, when the Spanish were reconquering the Southwest following the Pueblo revolts, the Pueblos would establish fortified residents on top of the mesas. So they could rain down arrows, bullets and boulders on the Spaniards. In Walatowa they had permanent Pueblos where the main mass of the tribe would live during the winter months. Then they would spread out to Summer hunting locations/farms/ etc. undoubtedly they had areas that would function as forts as well during times of war. Whether be against the Spanish, Navajos of even other Pueblos.
I know you get a lot of concern about your safety, etc., Jeff, but here's one more. If you don't already use it, sunscreen is something you should consider using 24-7 out there. It will benefit you a lot in the future as well as protect you now. Love your treks. Do you ever go back and read comment on your earlier posts, since newbies like myself are seeing some of them for the first time and post comments.
Destroyed ruins and granary spoke to me. The strategic positioning of it makes for one reason for its destruction. Someone didn't want to be seen coming and going miles away.
Jeff, what make and model drone do you use? I know that I am not the only one who is curious about your drone and photographic equipment. Maybe list that equipment as a standard part of your written introduction, like a lot of other channel hosts do. Thanks and keep up the excellent videos.
Brings the site that much closer, when just the environmental sounds can be heard. (At one site you visited, you even caught a disembodied voice!) 🙌🏻🙌🏻
Tire and spring set up for cows and deer. Love hear natural sounds of birds and bugs. For those of us who used to hike like you in our younger days the sounds bring back memories. Love the way you include us! 😊🙏🏻❤️ Spring would bring in animals! Great hunting set up!
I left the southwest when I was ten. Your soundscape recording brought me back too some found memories of exploring with my parents. Awesomeness. Thank you!
I can empathise (empathize for Yanks) with you on the memories but can you explain to a Furriner why Americans have such a hard time working out when to use too/to/two/tu/tutu??? 😉😊
WOW..... thank you so much for making that audio recording. Just amazing..... even better than music. You can put yhe music at the beginning and the end. Thanks for the hard work. I look forward to your weekly video.
The weather, winds, erosion for millenia would've changed, shortened the cliff edge we see today. .. The thickness of the walls could be for protection from winds, cold, heat - and predators would have a rough time getting through or over without drawing a lot of attention. ABSOLUTELY love your attitude, respect and protection of these locations!
Stop at 16:42. Why was this place completely destroyed? Seems to me the area was split by a huge quake. That wall on the right looks like it was sheared off from the left. Looks like a perfect fit it you could lean it back up. You can see better though as you are right there.
I think this was an area where herd animals were run off the cliff, and processed on the spot. That would also make it logical to have dwellings and places to cut and dry hides and meat. I love the genuineness of your enthusiasmm. It is so infectious. You are a joy.
A residential building built on a high vantage point, easy to defend, from where you can spot game and also see enemies approach. Possibly an animal corral for trapping game.
That's definitely Mormon tea. I've been harvesting it for a while. There are some websites that can teach you about it. As far as the structure on the edge of the cliff, maybe they put it there because of the view. Humans have been putting our homes on the edge of cliffs for a long time.
I like the idea expressed by someone in the comments earlier - the walls near the cliff edges are to keep occupants safe, and within the confines. Similar to what we do today with boundaries and fencing.
I read at one time that the people could have communicated from one hill top dwelling to another by signaling. Theoretically they could have multiple outpost that could signal back to the main encampment so they could be prepared for enemies or game animals coming their way.
Maybe this place was used for meditation and solitude of the shaman or the elders. The sounds could lull you to sleep. This place has meaning. More than we can know.
I can't even imagine the terror these people lived in to be motivated to build these structures in such remote places, But they were not enough, as the structures are ruined, pottery has been trashed, and there is no trace of these people today.
What a beautiful hike. That pause with the sound and rhythm of nature was so enjoyable. The more I watch your videos the better I understand the beauty and peaceful unity of the people who lived here. Thank you Jeff.
