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Myth busting: We need to be taught pronunciation - Intermediate Spanish 

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@guymgraham
@guymgraham Год назад
This makes sense. My pronunciation in Spanish is improving more and more over time as the sounds become clearer in my head, especially the double 'rr'. This is also true for Mandarin as I listen to more each day
@andreab616
@andreab616 Год назад
My double R is coming out better now too (almost at 700 hours comprehensible input), not because I'm trying, it's just happening (what a relief). Also, I just got a dog, so I do say the word perro rather more often than before, perhaps it's that, ha ha. All the best with your continued success in Spanish!
@itstheloveforme183
@itstheloveforme183 Год назад
Hola Pablo! I just returned from the Dominican Republic, and I was so happy and surprised that I could speak with so many natives as well as I was able to! I understood most of what people were saying to me, and I was usually able to respond in Spanish, even if it was just a short, elementary sentence. I made several friends this way, and I am so happy with my progress! I have around 175 hours of Dreaming Spanish, so I am very, very pleased! Thank you, thank you, thank you!
@ComprehensibleMandarin
@ComprehensibleMandarin Год назад
Occasionally family or friends ask me if tones are hard, & I'm always like, oh yeah, I forgot that was a thing! I learned about CI from you before I started Chinese, so I've always just listened without worrying about such things. I don't really speak, but if I do want to say something, I just imitate the way I've heard a native say it. Often I can literally hear a specific person or character's voice in my head. Things that are hard to 'learn' analytically (tones, grammar, etc) generally turn out to be much simpler to 'get used to' through exposure.
@bajanalpha4
@bajanalpha4 Год назад
Yay I love waking up to see a new language learning video from Dreaming Spanish! Thank you!
@andreab616
@andreab616 Год назад
Thank you, Pablo, for being a comprehensible input purist. It's such a relief to know that if I get enough input (escuchar, escuchar, escuchar), my brain will sort it all out and I'll become a successful Spanish speaker. Almost 700 hours of CI, so far and I'm super curious about how the next 700 hours will go. Keep up this meaningful work! By the way, I told someone else about you and Dreaming Spanish the other day, she watched a bunch of your videos and told me she now feels very positive about learning Spanish, unlike before. You're truly making a difference to people!!!
@whiterabit09
@whiterabit09 Год назад
Following the same method with a bit of duolingo to help remember words from repetition
@phakanyiswadeklerk3592
@phakanyiswadeklerk3592 Год назад
@@whiterabit09 I don't need Doulingo I only listen and guess what? I understand and I enjoyed comprehensive input 🤣 stay away from English!!!!
@ryebreadspanish1656
@ryebreadspanish1656 Год назад
@@whiterabit09 If a word is important you will hear it again over and over naturally in your immersion. Your brain is a natural SRS - there is no need for conscious study.
@Sajvable
@Sajvable Год назад
One technical thing, we produce/pronounce *sounds*/*phonemes*, not letters. Best regards Pablo, I have watched 2,697 videos since May and I keep going!
@Spiderslay3r
@Spiderslay3r Год назад
That's not a necessary or helpful distinction in this case.
@whererugoing
@whererugoing 10 месяцев назад
I love to see your passion on the subject!
@jennifer255
@jennifer255 8 месяцев назад
I suppose I'm in that 1% due to the fact that I was born with a hearing loss (wasn't diagnosed until I was 5, also learning disabilities, both which affect my speech, and still do.). In fact, I still mishear words (I'm 46 now). For example, in the outro, "la mejor manera de...", I keep hearing as "la mejor ma-nilla" (I don't even hear the "de" - I often don't hear endings to words, or sounds like b/p, or sh/ch/z get mushed into the same sound), and I'm 160 hours in. I doubt it would take that long for a "normal person" to pick up the correct pronunciation. It's because of this, that when I was young (18 months+), I was in a infant-development program, and learned to read early, plus picked up sign language. So, reading sentences with pictures (that were familiar to me - i.e., an event that happened at school, or going to the store), and picking up sign language is how I learned English. In my case, yes, I did need to be taught pronunciation my entire time in school. I know it's not 100% pure Dreaming Spanish, but I keep the subtitles on (in Spanish) simply because there are word, despite hearing them over and over again, probably over 1,000 times by this point, I still hear them incorrectly. Also, I still can't do the double 'rr', in any language. My Russian co-worker tried to teach me the rolling r and kept saying, "Nonono, that's French!". lol On a positive note, I can feel my brain starting to process the verb tenses as belonging to one verb and getting the context better, along with processing those connector words.
@houndstoothdinosaur
@houndstoothdinosaur Год назад
¡Muchas gracias Pablo! Sus videos siempre me ayudan 😊
@SpanishSchoolforKids
@SpanishSchoolforKids Год назад
I love that you're busting this myth!
@purdysanchez
@purdysanchez Месяц назад
If you can visualize sentences it's a good way to learn.
@susiespanish6635
@susiespanish6635 Год назад
I love your language learning series so much! I'd love to see a video from you about your thoughts on using flashcards to learn vocabulary (in conjunction with immersion). Thanks for all you do :)
@somesongs123
@somesongs123 Год назад
Any time spent on flash cards would be better spent on input in my opinion. You won’t be acquiring words with flash cards. It can also result in poor pronunciation that can be difficult to unlearn due to sub vocalisation as you read the flash card.
@susiespanish6635
@susiespanish6635 Год назад
@@somesongs123 Thanks for your reply! Some of the flashcards I have do include audio - would you still recommend immersion instead?
@FreddyFazbears0_0
@FreddyFazbears0_0 Год назад
@@somesongs123 That's true when you have availiable resources like Dreaming Spanish, but when you're learning difficult languages like Japanese, without too much beginner comprehensible input, it's imho crucial to do your anki grind. Well, at least untill first 1000/2000 vocabulary.
@somesongs123
@somesongs123 Год назад
@@susiespanish6635 no problem. I can’t say for certain but personally I would favour CI without flashcards. The goal of the DS method (that is based on the ALG method developed by Marvin Brown) is to form a model of the language in the brain that is as separate from one’s native language as possible. When using flashcards you will be creating neural connections between your target language and your native language which is what we are trying to avoid. Flashcards can also encourage you to consciously think about the input as you receive it because you will be trying to spot words that you have memorised and then you will be translating in your head using the translation that was on the flashcard which may not always correctly reflect the specific meaning of that word (as Pablo explains in one of his videos a “word is not a translation”). Marvin Brown advised against any conscious thought about the language.
@toocat2000000
@toocat2000000 Год назад
@@somesongs123 You nailed it !!
@juanarguedas1762
@juanarguedas1762 11 месяцев назад
Gracias Pablo excelente video
@essencelove9130
@essencelove9130 Год назад
Thank you Pablo!🙏🏽🧡
@Empowerrr
@Empowerrr 2 месяца назад
Thanks!
@juanarguedas6839
@juanarguedas6839 Год назад
excelejte gracias por todo ok
@tedc9682
@tedc9682 Год назад
If you can HEAR the sound, youi can make the sound - in any language. Como Pablo dice, it just takes practice.
@ot1438
@ot1438 Год назад
I watched 100s of videos from this guy and still don't know what venga means! He says it every time! Oh the joys of CI :')
@cw8790
@cw8790 Месяц назад
It means come
@prolpalabrov6312
@prolpalabrov6312 Год назад
Estoy de acuerdo con español. Pero no sé si es útil aprender pronciacion en frances, porque este idioma tiene pronuciacion más dificil
@lacydaniels5568
@lacydaniels5568 Год назад
Based on my experience as a student of the language, your argument makes sense. Most kids and most successful speakers of Spanish as a second language didn't get diction tutoring. However, in my case, I feel I benefit from repeatedly saying new, difficult, words over and over a few times, and then relistening to a native speaker saying the same word, and then repeating again. I don't feel the need for a "coach" to do that.
@d.lawrence5670
@d.lawrence5670 Год назад
Te doy un "like", porque odio practicar pronunciación.
@luisgreengrass
@luisgreengrass Год назад
Generalizar es siempre peligroso. Como bien dices, un gran porcentaje de personas no necesitan esa ayuda, pero hablar de porcentajes sin tener ningún tipo de fuente me parece arriesgado. De esta manera, puedes acabar desacreditando el trabajo de bastante gente que sí ayuda a sus alumnos con los problemas de pronunciación. Saludos de un compañero de profesión 👋🏼
@RuakHaQadash
@RuakHaQadash Год назад
Pareces ofendido. ¿Eres logopeda? 😂
@googleaccount-fs2st
@googleaccount-fs2st Год назад
We seriously need a translator pls