Nahida EM vs DPS 

EM is better but finding a balance of both will take you farther than focusing on one. Substats are incredibly important in the end.

I’m liking the recent direction they are taking with builds. Different stats can still contribute to damage. Its not just atk and crit values like the early days of genshin.

What i really like about Nahida is that you basically do not need to worry with her ER, her burst is so cheap (50 Energy) which is really nice

One thing I enjoy about these kinds of videos is the visual representation. I can SEE the damage differences. People like Xlice (and this isn’t hate) explain things without a demonstration of what they’re talking about and the differences between things, I (personally) have a hard time visualizing things when they’re just talking about the percentage differences and so on. He says to build her EM but how my brain operates, I just took him at his word. Now I can see EM is universally stronger for her with the reactions Dendro has

To summarize it: EM build better for elem reaction. Higher value output than dps

Yeah, Nahida with lots of EM is more fun with just all crit. She scales highly with EM. And having her paired up with different elements like electro, Pyro, and hydro fits more better. I usually pair her up with Ei or Yae, which is electro team and I'm always shocked with her damage together with them. Soo fun!

EM build is recommended because you will do reaction with her and that is where most of her damage comes from, compare to DPS build, you don’t run her alone. Nahida scales on EM anyways.

It's a dilemma we all Genshin players are facing ATM. It depends on if she's the enabler or not, on field or support. Different playstyles

If you are running hyper bloom with Raiden and Yelan/Xingqiu, DON'T build her full EM. She must be on field, and on field she gains 250 EM from Raiden (which should be built full EM 1000+). This allows you to run a dendro cup and if you have Solar Pearl, you can still use an EM circlet. Don't underestimate the dmg she can provide while generating blooms and applying dendro. My Nahida is constantly dealing 40k+ NA quickens while the blooms is around 34k and then there's the 20k+ tri karmas on top of that. It's insane! And she is still 6/8/6 and my SP is R3 rn!

actually my nahida is supposed to be Support, yet she somehow has 170 CD and 31 CR (gets increased with her 496 EM), I run her with two piece Gilded dreams, and 2 piece Deepwood Memories, and with Raiden in one team does between 1 and 20k per charged attack, if combined with her Burst.

Builds do similar dmg, honestly depends on subs (Em is more versatile tho)

Mine is a hybrid-ish build with magic guide, em-em-crit and 730 em with 56/155 ratio and honestly i enjoy it quite a lot compared to pure dps or triple em build

I feel so sad thinking about all the god EM + crit artifacts I burned 1 year ago, when em was "not necessary" only to get more flat defense 💀

THANK YOUUUU! This is the dilemma I'm currently in!

Yep kinda of 2k difference depending of substats I will keep with EM cuz like that i get more crit rate so it's more consistent

in other words, the difference is so minimal that it doesn't matter anyways

you didn't show charged attacks but it's fine, just by looking at normal attacks the result is obvious, actually i really like using dps nahida, balanced em and atk with full wanderer's troupe feels really nice considering that her charges are very quick, so please, don't underestimate her dps potential

I think building a good balance between dps and em is a nice idea for me.

I think doing a hybrid build with Nahida makes the most sense since she only actually needs 600em which is reachable with only 2em pieces (even 1 piece assuming em weapon), Sucrose/C2 Kazuha add 200em to Nahida, then she'll be at 800 then you use Nahida burst and she'll be at 1000em; meaning you'll always have 450em buff on teammates (200 if you don't snapshot correctly or the teammate isn't active) and Nahida's passives will be capped Basically even if it's an off-field Nahida it's worth building her somewhat like an on-field with 2 (sometimes 1) em piece; I think it's definitely worth changing goblet to Dendro but circlets seem to be very similar in damage so you should do your own testing in that case (likely just the best substats wins but crit damage usually has the highest damage ceiling) Edit: Keep in mind there's other ways to boost the team's em like Dendro resonance (don't recommend in Nahida teams), instructor (only really used on Kuki, possibly em Raiden) and Nahida's signature; then for Nahida only em boosts, Gilded dreams (rarely recommended on Nahida), 2 piece em sets (highly don't recommend on Nahida)

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I'd like to point out this is great info, but also not the entire story. I wonder how the comparison fares with specific weapons, Gilded Dreams instead of Deepwood, and different complete team comps.

Now that my em has got over 1k I might swap out my em circlet for a crit dmg one. Might try to balence out the stats, hoping to increase her dmg

My nahida has 21% Prob and 50% Crit, i think im good 😃 💀

Hmm, you're measuring a lot of the reactions completely wrong. Bountiful core dmg is based solely on Nilou's Max HP, not Nilou's EM or any other character's EM. Normal dendro core dmg is based on the EM of the triggering character. Spread reactions happen when you apply Dentro TO Electro (you applied it backwards which took into account Kuki's EM, not Nahida's). Transformative reactions take into account the triggering character's Level and EM, if you trigger a reaction with a 200 EM character instead of a 900 EM Nahida, you will be dealing way less damage, since Nahida wasn't the one who triggered the reaction, thus the other character's attributes would be used to calculate the reaction damage. Taking into account that Transformative Reactions like Hyperbloom, Bloom, Burgeon, Bountiful cores and Burn don't crit and scale off EM, building crit for these types of reactions will only affect Nahida's attack damage, not the damage of the reactions she creates, so it is not optimal at all to bring Crit Rate/DMG to these reactions since there is no a single multiplier related to Crit in the formula for those reaction. However Quickened based reactions CAN crit, both Aggravate and Spread can strike critical hits, building Crit Rate for these reactions alone is optimal. Funny fact is that Quickened based reactions can crit and bot scale the same as transformative reactions, with EM, you might consider this a "mini" reaction to each attack. I would advise reading about reactions and being a bit more knowledgeable about the game before posting a video like this.

*in fetal position* It has been over a year and I still don't understand how builds work...

What program did you use? An offline/private server genshin? Please kindly share. Triple crowned is impossible as the weekly boss just introduced last week.

I thought it was pretty obvious Kusanali em is the way to build her, not dps. Even when she's on field doing the damage (main dps) she does more damage WITHOUT a dps build because her em scaling is that good.

I don't have but i already farmed everything for her after giving all estimated build should be like this: 62 cr 150 cd 700-800 em

I have 2 build, i love build dps !! Em-Bdmg dendro-prob , the widsith r3, 58.7 prob/ 174.3dmgcrit, 566 EM 1252 atq

Or you can do boths. My Nahida has 700 em and 60/160 crit. With party buffs she has 1200 em

Should have been: "Nahida EM vs ATK+CRIT" (since both of them can deal quite a lot damage) The word "DPS" somehow being wrongly overused for a very long time by this community.

I'm using on field dps Nahida in crit ratio 58/196 with 600 EM Maybe for Nilou I should go for full EM ?🤔

I have my Nahida triple EM with 50/108 godlike pieces with her signature for a total of 1000EM is pretty good for my Alhaitham and burgeon teams.

it's better to build her based on my experience if you have her signature weapon EM/EM/CRIT with a 4pc Deepwood

I have golden balance: ATK1250 EM750 (840 With passive sign) CR RATE 61 CR DMG 167

You forgot to weave in auto attacks with the crit build, so technically, Em is better, but she does more dps on field with crit

I love how it’s really up to your discretion how you build this character. Also these crit %’s and EM seem like very minimal %’s EM and the damage is absolutely phenomenal.

The question is how you mange to level up her talent to level 10 🤔

making her a dps doesn't mean deleting all her EM, you basically have NO EM, you getr 180 or 200+ from gilded dreams and 115 fron ascention, you need to get more em, bc her kit is based on EM, thus her "dps build" is an EM build, just dont try getting her triple EM it can work but only for her skill, try EM sands, and EM substats and an EM weapon

the best nahida build is 4pc deepwood with 45/130-150 crit and 800-1000 em. It deals 50k+ E dmg with aggravate and her own Q buff

3 Elemental mastery artifacts and two artifacts with the right amount of crit damage and crit rate will make her perfect

Finally a video about the difference of Em build and Dps build! Helps me a lot by deciding which artifacts that i wan to use!

Have gone with 1000 em DW to maximize her support capabilities. Definitely lower dmg than dps nahida but when burst is out to support the team I believe the team dps would be higher.

Thats why my Nahida have 700 em and crit stats 49,7:190 💁‍♀️

I’ve been debating this so hard. I have c2 with thousand dreams, and currently a good dendro piece because I lack an em for her sand piece. So either I can switch in a crit rate piece for her (once I have a good one) or an em sands (again once I have one).

she GOD Support. not recommend for dps. 😓 but iam happy have her.... Good for farming and use EM from her soo fun... 😺😺😺

Balance of high em with solid ratio and substates is better than focusing on one

So initial E casts for DPS are higher but an overall damage EM build is better is what I'm seeing here

They are both DPS Build. It's just the other one has more EM and the other one has more (Kind of) CR/CD. Try making the other one to 200%+ CD

How did you get so much crits with the EM build?! The domain keeps giving me shittiest EM pieces you can imagine...

It's not simple to have 900 EM and also 135 crit DMG...

I'm using EM/EM/CR and that's the best for all situation for my artifacts

EM Build maybe not good at all, but in second damage it's so big, DPS is good for first damage and third, but the second is under EM, maybe with combination on EM and DPS will be good :v

I think i will give her the em weapon and a crit damage circlet with 16 crit rate and the rest is all em that's better

the DOT does more dmg on EM build, notably a 30K vs 22K , however when 'applying' E.Skill or doing some normal attack( which is irrelevant) or when Tri-Karma procs then Crit values most. Crit build seems to do a minor 3K above when applying skill now you also need to fact in that EM gives more EM to your main dps as well but also gives C.Rate I'd say IT DEPENDS on 3 things : Your main dps, your playstyle and your stats , if you're using another EM max character like Kazuha. Do you have those 120-ER to keep Nahida burst up and running, can you afford to swap her to do her burst during your rotation? Does your main dps scale off EM, is he already cap at 1000, does his set focus on reaction dmg? Do you have 40-50 CV artifact, 100EM with some CV and ER on them. I'd say the sweet spot is between 700 EM , 45-50ish C.Rate and 180-200% C.dmg if your main dps is a Hu Tao with 200-300 EM and CV build. If your main dps is a Nilou , Cyno or Yae Miko, then you'd want to have 1000 EM on Nida or around to max out your main dps if your rotation is too tight, and you can't afford to swap to nahida to get those 250 EM, then focus on building her crit dmg cause then

I want my nahida to be a support but she kills things too fast bc she has 1000+em😢

From what I've tested myself after 400 to 500 em the damage increase lowers A lot

I know the builds depend on how you use her but I need to know how to make her an all rounder.

Its not an EM build, Its a hybrid... If you really want to compare its should be 0 Crit vs 0 EM.

My dps build having 590 EM and 50 crit rate, 170 crit damage plus an additional 250 EM when nahida is on field classifies as an hybrid of this two variation I guess.

both are dps build what do you mean? EM build has 40/138 crit ratio, with her passive she can easily hit crits with that and the DPS build has just slightly better crit ratio but much much less EM like 300 EM is ridicolous on Nahida. basically you made the DPS build a little bit better crit ratio and dendro bonus, but A HUGE NERF about EM so of course she would do less damage and make people think it's bad (the comments lmao) You could have made the DPS build with the widsith, more EM in substats so you can reach at least 500 EM and crit rate circlet, you will see the damage surpassing the EM one, even more if you refine the widsith.

But how to get enough materials for leveling 10/10/10 talents in a short time?? I only managed 8/9/8

this is where calculus comes in

Do you think it would be a good idea to put, memories of the sacrifice, mastery clock, chalice of dendro damage bonus and mastery?

How can u 10/10/10 for the talent nahida ?

How do you almost 140% crit damage and crit rate even you build full EM???

Build her with 1000+ EM in bountiful bloom team, my nilou has 250+ EM but with Nahida, Nilou EM can increase up to 700+

Em - dendro - Em.....here 🙋🏻 mappa mare Em 635 - 33/135 - 1.2k attack Lvl 70/80 1-8-8

You have very little EM on your Nahida. You should have close to 1000 EM points. Then you will see its true murderous potential.

What have i learned from this video? Em is not worth it at all, since building full EM artifacts with 40 to 137 ratio is super hard to do, but 68 on 174 ratio seems pretty normal values but the difference is not that big, so DPS Nahida for the win!

المشكبة ان ضربة (تيرا) تتأثر فعلا بالـ cd + cr وهذا يجعل من بناءها كـ em امرا غاية في الصعوبة حتى لو كان الـ em عندها 900-1000 سيظل هذا غير مجد لانك تحتاج cr لا يقل عن 50% وهذا صعببببببب جددااااااااااا تحتاج للتفريم اشهرررررر واشهررررر ولا ننسى انك بحاجة ايضا لـ cd وهذا يزيد الامر صعوبة.. انت الان بحاجة لقطع اكثر من مثالية !! كل قطعة تحتوى على cd+cr 😩😩 ولكن هل تمازحني?!! وان قررت ان تجعلها full dmg فهذا سيجعلها اقل فائدة بكثيييرررررررررررر تبا لهم لماذا لم يجعلوها تعتمد كليا على em او atk او hp

Both things: Look at all this damage! I'm hitting easy 50k+ spreads with only 24 crit rate + 24 from the ascension passive and 130 CDamage. Once I unleash Temple of Maya, I'm getting to 1,100 EM. She's so broken and I'm still going to go for C2 hopefully.

What is the name of the OST at the end

I'm running her with a widsith and attack sands and she's great, 236 EM, 62 CR, 167 CD and 1555 attack and she works great

idk if its late to ask but i was wondering if i should focus on only em or only atk crit. my current nahida has 750em 40/150 crit ratio with 1400atk. should i focus on only one or no?

TLDW: EM for bigger reaction damage DPS for Nahida Active most of the time on field

Wait. Is hyperbloom trigger by nahida em, not kuki em?

I use her with, barbara, lisa and klee

Why your Nahida looks taller than mine? What do you feed her? 😂😭

sacrificial fragments's effect is kinda useless tho,no?

My nahida with 800 em on the dot and 60/160 with the solar pearl and a cdmg circlet, why not both?

I don’t understand why in the DPS build she has such low elemental mastery and at the same time so little crit damage, and attack is also low... My Nahida has 1400 atk, 800 ms and 50/175.. Is that ms or dps?🤧

My suggestion is that build her em to 800 more first, then properly distribute her stats of em/crit rate/crit dmg.

Does Nahida still want 50 or more crit dmg with EM build? I have trouble to get decent crate with triple EM build

My nahida using em/dendro/crt dmg with crt ration 38/170, 720 EM and 1300atk really deal a huge damage

What if my team have high EM like Kuki/Raiden should i use full EM too at my Nahida?

I dont think you understand what DPS means if you trying to compare it next to EM lol but i get what you mean 😂😂

My nahida have 725~ em(with signature) and 33/195. Hers best was 43k if I'm not mistaken

Таланты на 10м уровне? Каааак?

I have 550 em with 64/120 crit, but sadly still lacking in ER

U can build Nahida with basicly anything and she will be OP

I have 100% guaranteed on my banner! Nahida will be mine

My nahida stats: Nahida hyperbloom EM 401 CR 43,1% CDMG 126,1% DENDRO DMG BONUS 61% ER 134% Is that good for hyperbloom?

EM on Nahida is obviously better but this comparison its really bad since the difference between the two its only by 30% crit dmg and a huge 550 EM

This is the video that I want! 🥹 I was in doubt between full EM and DPS Build. Thanks for the conclusion, bro: "Forget DPS Build and focus in Elemental Mastery (EM)."

overall em build is better, since u dont have to change your other characters build to activate the first talent efficiently

What about both?

my question are not nahida, but the party member, i play what i call fatalframe (lol) where nahida are onfield and Ei as the reaction with her skill, considering it's a reaction team, so offcourse i have em build nahida, but, what build should i give Ei?? her own normal personal build are offcourse ER build, but now she's offfield, her ER build become useless because i barely trigger her ult, should i gave her atk? or EM?

i got somewhat balanced build for my nahida... 1.6k atk 68cr 180cd 130er 450em ( 4pc deepwood ) still farming her artifacts 😅

You can build a hybrid nahida Dps lol 2pc glided 2pc Wonderers troupe Weapon : withsith Em 550 Crit circlet Atk sands with EM substats Or crit substats Em goblet lol Just slot a kazuha or sucrose on the back for more Em boost Make sure kazuha and sucrose has the highest em