Nailers From METABO HPT Have CHANGED! (WAS HITACHI BETTER?) 

I'm really digging the metabo HPT stuff. I have paslode nailers and they are good nailers, but they don't fire quite that nice. I always use pneumatic when possible. However, that framing nailer has me thinking maybe I should reconsider the battery powered framers. Nice video 👍 Beast💪

💥🚨 I just bought the Metabo 21° framer. The first one only shot in bump mode. I rushed out to buy another one since I really needed it the next day on Monday’s job. The second one had the exact same function defect. The battery charger is as no frills as it gets. . It’s a complete minimalist piece of plastic junk. Totally featureless unlike my Makita chargers. There was no positive click letting me know that the battery was in and charging and there was no obvious indication in the red light letting me know that charging started. Makita lights change from green (charged or ready) to red (charging) and Makita chargers even play a song both when you first hook up the battery and when the charge is complete and the batter locks in. My Metabo framing nailer fired when it felt like it, not every time that I wanted it. It even went to sleep (mode) on the job after about 8 minutes of sitting idle and I had to hit the power on button to keep working. It is obvious that no professional carpenter had their hands in designing the tool. It only excepts one strip at a time and you have to go all the way to the very last now before you can put another strip in and they should’ve left maybe two or three nails more of space so you don’t have to wait till the very last nail to reload. I ran about 10 strips of nails through the gun and two times I couldn’t even fit an entire strip of nails and had to take out my side cutting Dykes and cut one nail off of the strip in order to fit it in. WTH. Calling Metabo and hoping for some technical support and troubleshooting was the worst experience of any company that I’ve dealt with in my 35 plus years of adult life. All that the persons who picked up the call said was to send it in to a service center. “You mean send THEM in.?? I bought two that are suffering from the same defect”… I even heard the night that I bought the two of them from Lowe’s that the compressed air inside the tool needs to be recharged after about one year of use and that you need to send it in to have it done and pay for it. What…? I’m quite a reasonable and level headed professional but so far I think that Metabo is pure junk compared to my 30 plus years of experience with using Makita And I can’t wait for them to make a framing nailer. I bet they are holding off in releasing one because they are seeing all of the defects and complaints from every other brand that everyone is sharing on YT and they are going to make sure that their gun is not guilty of any of them. Once the tool breaks two days after the warranty expires I won’t be surprised if the cost to fix it is almost as much as it cost to buy a new one making it nothing more than a piece of disposable throwaway plastic junk like, Nothing more than a big boy toy. I do on a couple of other brands that are known to have a superior tool like the Bosch barrel grip jigsaw and all of my Porter Cable routers which are known to be industry standards. I own a Milwaukee sawzall. It was the first professional tool that I bought in 1986 and I still own it and it still works. I bought one of their anniversary models about eight or so years ago that came in a special monogrammed anniversary tool bag and it broke within eight months. New tools in general are built nothing like they were up until the 80’s and 90’s. I also still have a corded drill purchased in the late 80’s with a keyed Chuck that was made by black and decker and it was a special tool of theirs back then that was black and gray and they called it their professional line. It still works perfectly to this day. There is no way that this Metabo is going to last more than maybe 1-1/2 years unless I treat it like a newborn baby. Stay healthy everyone … 🤟🏼

I can't believe I didn't see this for 3 years lol How did I miss this one🤦‍♂️ GREAT video bro that was awesome 😎💯🇺🇸

O big red watch out now. Would love to be able to go corded when you need to . Wish Milwaukee would make something like that. Great video.

The HPT is going to be a market force that the other major players are going to have to watch. I am mostly interested in the 36V line. Thanks Vince.

Nice, BUT, did not answer the upfront question, "Have nailers from Metabo HPT changed, did they lose quality? Was Hitachi better?" So what is the answer?

Love these videos from your time at Acme tool! Can’t wait to see more

"Did you see how quick it went through the first ones?" at the 6:43 mark. Yes, because the wood was already cut!

I’ve used the hikoki framing nailer for over a year and it hasn’t missed a beat , it’s immeasurably superior to that of the hitachi gas version, the slight downside is it’s quite heavy , but it’s a fantastic machine,

I have the Hitachi framer, 15ga, and 18ga cordless nailers. They work great. The negatives are they are bulky and heavy. Besides that they are so nice to use without air lines and compressor. Very happy with my purchases. Framer is best on the market. Dewalt is probably better for finishing work, but the compressed air design is superior imho.

Wow, all those tools were impressive Vince. I do like that framing nailer and looks like it would give Paslode a run for the money, especially without having to use gas cartridges. The recip saw is a beast as it ripped through that 2 X 12 with nails like butter. Thanks for sharing. Cheers!

Of the four nails it supposedly went through, I only see one. Are the other three shrouded by wood grain...?

Wow very impressive tools we use all cordless tools on our jobs kind of keeps osha away then ya don’t need to keep gifts on job or keep your cords being always checked reguraly but that’s a great line of tools I can’t wait for them to show up at a job iam on thanks

What nails do you recommend to put through this nailer? Mine is misfiring occasionally.

Purchased 5 of the framing guns for my company. All seem to dry fire quite frequently. Any tips?

Dang those are awesome I got my eye on that hammer drill and that nailer

The reciprocating saw... man, it's a good thing I was already on the toilet.

Got my first use of the 15g finish nailer today... It's nice not having to set up air tanks and hoses just to fix some old lady's door... In and out in no time.

That's impressive the way the the battery holder is how you plug that in i haven't seen that before.

Do the cordless framing nailers have to be maintained in any way periodically? Anything oiled, etc.?

These guys are going in the right direction. Milwaukee and DeWalt are gonna have to step it up to keep their top spots

That was a great demonstration.

I just purchased that framing nailer its solid. On thst saws all he put in like 5 ot 6 nails but the demonstration showed him only cutting through 1 nail. Was that due to him cutting on an angle. Or nailer not setting naiks at equal depth. I did read a review where the nailer under heavy use stopped driving as deep and guy had to send in to get air recharged. Is that something we can do ourselves.

Have a great day guys! Another good video from your trip.

metabo hpt has stepped it up ...they are pricey tools but worth it...lifetime warranty on the tool...pretty awesome 👍

My favorite cordless framing nailer is my Eastwing 25 ounce wood handled hammer.My second favorite cordless framing nailer is the Metabo hpt 21° 18 V cordless framing nailer.

Really nice demonstration Dave. Going through nails with the recip, how much if that is the tool vs blade?

My framing nailer won't feed the framing nails, the magazine tolerance is too tight it hangs in the plastic strip. It requires a palm slam to feed each nail

I'm so excited man. Hitachi has always been my go to for power tools. You get amazingly well built equipment at a fair price. Anybody that wants to question their quality, just look at the warranty. All of my Hitachi stuff has outlasted any expectations I'd put on any brand. I have the C12RSH2 miter saw and had the previous C12RSH. They are as good as any 12in sliders out there. I've owned the Milwaukee 6955-20, the Delta Cruzer, and have also used a ton of Dewalt's on jobsites. Nobody besides fucking Festool makes a better compound sliding miter than Hitachi (well Metabo HPT now). Sure the C12RSH2 has an annoying bevel system but it works. Outside of that, it's perfect man. Their nailers are legendary so I'm very excited to try this one. Just so glad to see all this innovation from them. Sure I'll admit they're just a drop below Milwaukee and Makita in terms of features, fit/finish, and maybe even quality to some degree. They're every bit on par with Dewalt though. If you had tiers it would be like this FROM MY EXPERIENCE... B&D Ryobi Porter Cable Sears Craftsman Skil Kobalt SB&D Craftsman Ridgid Delta Metabo HPT (Hitachi) Dewalt Bosch Snap On Ingersoll Rand Makita Milwaukee Hilti Skilsaw Metabo (German) Mac Festool Obviously this list makes absolutely no sense cause I'm comparing brands like Sklisaw and Ingersoll Rand who don't even make a single comparable tool. Really though, this is simply about the quality I've come to expect from certain brands I've grown familiar with.

Have the framer and the 16g both awesome tools very nice to use little heavy over head over long periods of time but great the rest of the time.

I just bought me a cordless Metabo htp stands for Hitachi Power Tools just the name has changed still the same folks, rock on Hitachi in disguise we salute you lol.

With Lowes now in a month bringing in Flex tools from Germany as a new contractor grade tool line it looks like Metabo HPT is going to be the one line pushed out, Craftsman has already pushed everything out of Lowes except Kobalt, Skil, Metabo and DeWalt at my store. I have some Metabo HPT tools I am going to be seriously bummed if they end up on-line only.

I'm down the road from acme wish i knew you were there

Vince, you are dope. Thanks bro.

Very impressive! Next retool loox like hot.

Wow man!! The hpt is for sure the outstand tool on market, no doubt.

Hey brother, you never seen anyone cut through framing nails with a reciprocating saw. I do it without even knowing it with my oscillating tool. I cut through a 6" steel beam with my reciprocating saw.

I have enjoyed all tool reviews no nonsense testing. Vince his in the field reviews Nick his ranking DIY to Expert. I was debating for precise levels Stabila type 196 Sola Big Red Johnson ultra Vince reviewed Sola I decided what the hey bought a set for finish carpentery, are cool as hell and bright red as well. Thanks VCG construction

buying my nailer today!!

How about 220 power supply in can plug-in?

I have every cordless nail gun they make the framers the only one with metabo on the side

That recip was incredibly fast. What voltage was that saw operating at? what was the blade that he had in it? Do you happen to know what is the RPM that it runs at and also how long is the stroke? If you don't have all that do you have the model number? I think I'm fixing to put my fuel sawzall and fuel hackzall, well no I'll keep the hackzall, on OfferUp.because as much as I don't need another battery platform I think it's at this point after seeing that..... mandatory upgrade...

I've said they should have the AC adaptor for battery operated tools for years.

Damn good nailers

Love the mean green tools

That recip saw thou 😲 0-60 real quick

My Metabo HTP battery framing gun needs to hold 2 clips of nails like the Milwaukee battery framing gun does.

I have one of those guns , and when is cold wheater , this guns are not working very well

It is important to know that batteries do not discharge quickly and to specify well how many amps each battery has.

They got some cool stuff for concrete but I think AirBow is really gonna nail it with the future technology of pneumatic fasteners.

Careful Vince, just because Metabo/Hitachi allows you to work faster with less fatigue, doesn't mean it's time to buy the entire line. VCG gotta stick to the budget sometimes!

Thanks for sharing the great video Vince

Metabo and Hitachi one in the same, HPT will just get better and better .

That saw was pretty fast. I believe that 2:1 claim maybe.

Old video but i always wondered why the same pneumatic air that powers framing nailers couldn’t just be simply recycled back into its tank and reused instead of releasing it out into the atmosphere when the nail is fired. Hitachi basically proved this idea i had and im sure plenty of people wondered the same since its compressed air etc that is used in vehicle shocks. Hitachi figured it out and thats the holy grail for tools.

65k whoo hoo 👍

I could be wrong, but at 6:39, I can only see that he cut through the first nail, might have just caught the tip of the second, and completely missed the last two, although it went through the first one pretty damned fast.

I didn’t see a nail stick out.

Your a beast 👊

too bad there isnt too much cordless metabo in the market. i have makita but have the nailer and miter saw. i trust the japanese tools will last me a long time

Kicking but taking names

Dave has a huge right fist...

i have a hitachi nailer, absolutely amazing tool

I have all kinds of Metabo nailers the best power tools ever

Hitachi is like Elvis had to hide out and now we'll rename it to Metabo HPT.

He looked to the left as he said it would shoot into an lvl. That's a lie all day.

Remember Folks: Metabo HPT is just a NAME CHANGE ONLY. It is still a Chinese Hitachi tool....Period. Don't confuse it with Metabo (without the HPT).

Milwaukee so much better saw saws I don't know about nail guns

Metabo nail guns suck. Their triggers are crap. I’ve had nothing but issues with them. I have 6 guns and all of them are crap now. Cheap parts. Lots of defects and problems they haven’t solved yet. I’m switching all my guns to someone else.

Looks like a transformer.

Metabo hot is not metabo!

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VCG just lost all respect from me... 'Doesn't believe a sawzall (battery or corded) would cut through 4 nails in a 2x12.... Huh? Do you have ANY actual construction experience? OF COURSE it'll cut through! (Especially with a recently changed blade!!, much less presumably Bi-metallic Demo blade.... ) Why the incredulity?