Jesse has a huge point with the "in your face" thing. Swedes had already made golden helmets for themselves because they were so sure about their victory.
@@aslakhanhisuanto3694 it might be factually correct, but the narrative is false. You always prepare for winning, even if you don’t really believe you will win. Don’t you think the losing team of a Stanley cup final also have hats in the locker room that say ”Stanley Cup Champions”? Of course they do... So, yes, there might have been golden helmets, but that does not mean they were ”sure to win”.
@@hene2734 No but this one is different, if you are not from either finland or sweden you wouldnt know about the media battle. For example aftonbladet stated that Sweden's team is so superior that its not gonna be a debate of who wins, its just gonna be how badly sweden is gonna defeat finland
@@aslakhanhisuanto3694 That is just fucking fabrication fom your part, I´m swedish and I live in sweden, nothing you have claimed in this thread is true. Sweden were favourites yes, but that is almost always the case, someone is usually favourite to win. Its not that difficult to get facts from this, if you can get a article from Aftonbladet I will forever hold my mouth shut.
I don't even understand how they are discounting the importance of it. Canada won gold that year. If Eberle doesn't score there, they have at best a bronze. It didn't win the game, but it saved the game moreso than any other goal. Any game winner the game could still have been won later on if a goal happened later, or a shootout was won.
I'm with Jesse here! Sweden has been our rival and famous for being able to clutch the games against Finland. Ristolainen scoring with pure willpower on a such a big stage felt really good. The progress in player development had began a bit earlier though, but Ristolainen represented the new mentality our young players had. More clutch and hungry for the win compared to our older teams.
Eberle goal all day! I was literally there on Canada’s bench in the final minutes of the 3rd. It was epic and there was barely any time to pull it off. The crowd went insane
The Zibanejad-goal is so significant for us in Sweden, it's one of the most Iconic calls from a broadcaster in Swedish sports history, not only talking about Hockey.
I May be biased as an American but John carlsons goal in 2010, I believe, is pretty big. Overtime winner against Canada. Feel like that helped American hockey as a whole. Similar to the Finland perspective shared in the video. I can’t wait to watch this year!!! Let’s go good hockey!!! Was typing as I listened and the goal was mentioned. Thanks and we’ll done. Peter Forsberg shoot out goal honorable mention
In 2014 swedes put their championship gold helmets behind their bench when the game went on overtime. That Ristolainen goal was the most in your face moment of WCU20 history
I was in Rogers Arena when Kappo Kakko scored the game winner in the dying minutes. I even captured the moment on my phone. Most people who were in that arena were cheering for Finland. The crowd roared when that puck went in. I don’t think it’s the most important goal of ALL TIME but I think it could be argued as one of the most important WJC goals of the 2010s.
As a Finn, I can’t tell you how big the kappy goal was. No chance our rivalry with Sweden is larger than our rivalry with Russia. Ultimately just a result of the relations between the Finland and Russia outside of hockey, predominantly after ww2. And the fact that we beat our rival on home soil was the icing on the cake. Imo the biggest goal ever in the wjhc🇫🇮
I don’t think any hockey moment will ever top that Kapanen goal for me personally. Being there to witness it in person was absolutely unbelievable, just watching the replay gives me goosebumps lol
Actually biggest turning point in rise for finnish hockey talents is 2011 IIHF WC where Granlund did lacrosse goal and team won world championship. Whole country went grazy for hockey. And I think that is big factor for JNR championship in 2014. Whole hockey scene in Finland got better at every level.
Finland vs Russia is a much bigger rivalry at the World Championship than it is at the World Juniors. At the WJC, could Finland's biggest rival actually be Canada right now? (Key words: "right now".) Look at their last seven head to head matchups. They've taken turns knocking each other off... 2012 bronze: Canada won 4-0 2014 semifinal: Finland won 5-1 2015 preliminary: Canada won 4-1 2016 quarterfinal: Finland won 6-5 2018 preliminary: Canada won 4-2 2019 quarterfinal: Finland won 2-1 2020 semifinal: Canada won 5-0 Other than that bronze medal game, whoever won Canada vs Finland, won gold. 2021 preliminary: ???
A personal biggest moment but for danish hockey one game and moment comes to mind. In the 2015 WJC Denmark was facing Switzerland in a game for the quater finals, down 3-1 in the thrid period, Denmark tied up the game and took it to a shootout that they won. The biggest moment being when Noah Rod missed the final shot on George Sørensen. Giving Denmark their first win in WJC and starting a 4 year long run of staying in the world junoir. For a country with 5000 active players at all skill level and ages and only 25 rinks, that was the moment when Denmark truely showed what commitment and a dream can do. Its a memory that will stay with me forever.
I agree, plus that Finnish team was the lovable underdog with a few great players. The 2016 team was crazy talented with guys like Laine, Aho, Puljujarvi, Rantanen, Kapanen, and Juolevi.
They both have a very good ideas about those moments, but I think in my opinion that the Mika Zibanejad's OT goal after Sweden not winning anything in the past 30 years is much more of a pressure than the Risto goal. I still think both are very good goal moments, but in my perspective, I'd agree with Luca about that moment in particular. My WJC goal moment I would go with the Kapanen OT game winner when Finland win gold against Russia. Honorable mention to Patrick O'Sullivan fluky goal from a mistake of Marc Andre Fleury's own goal that resulted US to win in 2004.
Haydn Fleury is actually a pretty good comparison for Jesse - Mitch Marner's face with that Fleury smile (Even tho Marc-Andre and Haydn aren't even related which I had NO idea about because they have the exact same smile)
You know what would be a banger of a video. Talk about not only the best hockey game ever, but the greatest sports game ever. Talk about miracle on ice.
The most important goal in WJHC history is Mike Moller's 1982 tournament winner in a 3-3 tie with Czechoslovakia in the final game of the 1982 championships. It was Canada's first World Junior gold and it started the tradition of singing O' Canada after gold medal wins.
Eberle goal deserves credit. The time left on the clock plus the horrible finish we would have if we lost, that goal ignited all of Canada and you can’t deny the pressure these kids have on them playing for Canada, they’re expected to win!
Gotta agree that it’s Zibanejad’s. However Barrett Hayton’s tying goal in the gold medal game last year was the most emotional I have ever been watching a hockey game.
My 2 cents as an obviously biased Canadian: Gretzky's 1977 goal against the Soviets. Important for both the tournament, which was in its first official run (3 trial runs previous), and for Gretzky, who was playing his first best-on-best competition. It is the earliest moment in the tournament still commonly shown. Slaney's 1991 goal in Saskatoon. Important for the tournament in that it was the beginning of the meteoric rise in Canada for the tournament. It was somewhat popular before (Piestany wouldn't be as well-known today if it wasn't), but the tournament wasn't a yearly tradition for families across the country by that point.
As a Swede it's absolutely the Zibby goal. I was too young to really remember the 2006 olympics, and the Worlds is just such a boring tournament, so I had never experienced anything that exciting involving Tre Kronor. The fact that it was played in Canada so faceoff was like 4 am local time just added to the emotions of that goal. I remember sitting with my parents, dead tired, and just screaming my head off when it went in.
Can't believe that I'm saying this but I agree with Jesse 100%. If that 2014 goal doesn't happen the 2016 doesn't happen. It happened at the same time that hockey seemed to start loosing it's popularity in Finland because of controversies about safety and violence in the sport. But Finland beating Sweden in Sweden in an age group that we had been so bad for years was start of something special. At the time we saw Sweden in all junior tournaments as an opponent that we would have a hard time beating. We thought that everyone is better than us. After that tournament we started thinking we are just as good as the best ones in the sport! That goal was such a big one that my celebrations broke a couch.
Honestly I know it was only last year and I’m biased being Canadian but Haytons goal last year has to mentioned in this kind of debate. Think about how what Canada dealt with to get there. Embarrassed by Russia in the group stage, hayton doesn’t take off his helmet during the Russian anthem causing a social media meltdown and lose Lafreniere the same game, team rallies back and makes it to the semis where hayton suffers what seemed to be a tournament ending injury but comes back for gold. Canada’s down by one midway through the third and the kid scores to tie the game. To me that goal was huge because of everything that happened earlier in the tourney and even the day before. Kid showed what a leader he was and showed a whole new generation of kids to never give up no matter how hard things get.
The Marc-Andre Fleury own goal in 2004. Before that the Americans had 3 medals, 2 bronze and a silver in the whole history of the tournament. There's an argument that without that goal, the Americans don't invest so heavily in their junior and NTDPs and never become a power.
I agree with these two on the Eberle goal (which I think was more a Gord Miller moment than an Eberle or Team Canada moment), but I think I'd put Steenbergen's goal in 2018 over Thomas' goal in 2020. There was less time left on the clock with Steenbergen, and that Canadian team, if I recall, was not favoured by very many people to win the tournament that year. I think most had one of Sweden, Russia or USA taking it that year.
Eberle goal is by far the most important and iconic, tournament was in Ottawa the capital of our country in the middle of Canada’s 4 year world junior gold medal streak. Literally the only argument for it not being the most important goal is Pierre McGuire’s botched commentary after Gord millers “Can you believe it”
Ladies and Gents, welcome to another Debate featuring Luca “Dollarama Zibanejad” Celebre and Jesse “What NHLer do I vaguely look like this week” Pollock!
Well I'm definitely older than everyone here, because to me John Slaney's game winning goal in the last five minutes against the Soviet Union in 1991 is the most important. First time in tournament history the host team won gold (in Saskatchewan) and against an absolutely stacked Soviet Union team (Pavel bure, Sergei fedrov, Oleg Petrov, etc).
John Slaney's GWG against the Pavel Bure led Team Russia who was undefeated at the time. A win give Team Canada gold and a loss pushes them to Bronze as there were no playoff rounds back then!
Not giving enough credit to the Eberle goal. Canada’s gold medal streak was literally five seconds away from being snapped until that goal. Plus he scored the SO winner. And then John Carlson ended the streak a year later.
2:45 Sweden lost to Canada on December 26th, 2006. That, for real, is the last preliminary round game Sweden has lost. They are on a 55-game winning streak on preliminary rounds which is absolute madness. Meanwhile, on knockout stage they haven't won even half of their games: 17 wins in 35 games!
I know we're talking about just one goal and championship goals, but Jonathan Toews? 2007? Three shootout goals to win it...would've liked to see it mentioned!
1:42 It did not all start with that, there was a big overhaul in the Finnish junior developement system in the early 2010s and that's when the fruits of that labor started coming in. Also we had an extensive junior developement system for decades before that it did not all start with the 2014 lolol
The Rivalry between Russia and Finland goes waaaaay back in history (in which Russia has repeatedly tried and succeeded to invade them). And during WWII sovjet declared war on Finland because they didn’t comply to Sovjet demands of just giving up their own land. The red army outnumbered the Finnish and Swedish volunteer troops 20 to 1 but still had difficulties gaining any success, but they of course won and the so called winterwar ended. Lather on Finland actually joined forces with nazi Germany during operation Barbarossa (invasion of the Soviet Union) because of the anger and hatred towards the sovjets after the winterwar. this may be over 80 years ago but Finnish people doesn’t forget and u can still see a hatred towards the Russians in Finland to this day... meanwhile Sweden and Finland has been allies for hundreds of years and parts of Finland still teaches Swedish in their schools. Even though the Swedes didn’t declare war on the sovjet union during WWII, they still helped Finnish civilians to safety and many Swedes volunteered to reinforce the Finnish army during the war. In conclusion: No Jesse, the rivalry between Russia and Finland is bigger than the rivalry between Finland and Sweden. Between us Swedes and Finns there’s a “brotherly” rivalry that’s very entertaining to watch but doesn’t include hatred between eachother. Meanwhile the Russians are like Finland’s mortal enemies...
Lmao Jesse Laine and Aho were 15/16 in 2014, Barkov was in the NHL, heiskanen was like 14 and even aatu raty and Anton Lundell were around 9 or 10 well into their minor hockey careers
