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Nancarrow, Study #37 for Player Piano (score+roll) 

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Study #37 for Player Piano by Conlon Nancarrow, accompanied by an animated graphical score.
FAQ
Q: What version is this?
A: I've put two versions of this video on RU-vid. The first version ...
• Nancarrow, Study #37 f...
... is based on data directly from the published score (Schott ED 7685), entered by Chris Sansom. The second version ...
• Nancarrow, Study #37 f...
... incorporates data scanned by Trimpin from Nancarrow's original rolls. In the second version, the timings of the notes from the score were adjusted to match the roll timings as much as possible. In cases where notes were missing or incorrect on the rolls (as judged by the score), these were estimated or corrected. In one passage, where both the roll and the score have what appear to be the same octave error; I used the roll/score notes (and not Sansom's correction).
Q: What do the colors mean?
A: In each of the twelve canons in this piece, the 12 voices have 12 tempi. Colors are assigned by voice, with dark blue corresponding to the fastest tempo.
Q: Where can I see more of these videos on RU-vid?
A: On this playlist:
• Nancarrow
Q: Where can I get a recording of this piece?
A: Here:
www.amazon.com/...
Q: Could you please do a video of _______?
A: Please read this ...
www.musanim.com...

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Комментарии : 324   
@XanthinZarda
@XanthinZarda 9 лет назад
Your piano is now in debugging mode, press any key to continue.
@fuchsiafreud
@fuchsiafreud 9 лет назад
XanthinZarda defragmenting. defragmenting. Please Don't Turn Off Your Sense Of Self.
@authenticbaguette6673
@authenticbaguette6673 3 года назад
This is actually really interesting, but in like a good way.. sounds very fresh. The graphic score really helps me appreciate this, so thank you for the effort!
@atimnie
@atimnie 10 лет назад
That was... different.
@christianjanes972
@christianjanes972 10 лет назад
Could you do a video on Simple Gifts by Aaron Copland
@smalin
@smalin 10 лет назад
See "Could you please ..." in the FAQ.
@Cotterchamplin
@Cotterchamplin 2 года назад
Rainbow Road hasn’t been paved in a bit
@davidsarton976
@davidsarton976 Год назад
It's really neat how the visuals show patterns that may not have been initially recognizable upon listening.
@smalin
@smalin Год назад
I think you're on to something.
@hb3393
@hb3393 8 лет назад
I cannot thank you enough for making this - I dread to think how much time and effort this must've taken, but it's truly appreciated! I love Nancarrow's music, but listening with no visual aids becomes tiring and dis-orientating very quickly. Being able to see exactly what's happening enhances his work so much.
@smalin
@smalin 8 лет назад
Thanks; I'm glad to hear you feel that way.
@mr.hashundredsofprivatepla3711
I love how most of the piece sounds like a cacophony, but then there's this one jaw-droppingly beautiful moment at 4:25. I was NOT prepared for that.
@darealjansolo
@darealjansolo Год назад
nobody was
@GUILLOM
@GUILLOM 11 месяцев назад
Mathematically?
@OltScript313
@OltScript313 2 года назад
0:46 It reminds me Windows XP Sounds
@mootbooxle
@mootbooxle 7 лет назад
Beautiful work!! Color coding these canon structures sure makes them easier to follow!
@b43xoit
@b43xoit 7 лет назад
I like your inclusion of the whole work compressed at the bottom.
@robbes7rh
@robbes7rh Год назад
It has the lyricism of a Chopin Ballade and the sparse refined texture of the Andante in Mozart''s piano concerto No.21 (!?) Obviously a departure from the classical norms, but I seriously like it. I think it's brilliant. For me it was like exploring planetesimals in the Kuiper belt. An opportunity to set one's normal expectations aside and take a vacation from the impulse to judge and just go on an adventurous ride like you are in Tomorrowland at Disneyland.
@bass0129
@bass0129 2 года назад
It’s like the gamecube logo rolled a little too far lol
@nemraps
@nemraps 7 лет назад
I feel like I've heard 4:24 somewhere before. like a movie or a cartoon or something. pretty
@ozzysman07
@ozzysman07 7 лет назад
like the nintendo sound?
@VardanSafarian
@VardanSafarian 7 лет назад
NemRaps eyes wide shut?
@an4contre
@an4contre 7 лет назад
It reminds me of Saint Saëns, idk tough
@shiningarmor2838
@shiningarmor2838 7 лет назад
That particular run is used for transitions like dream sequences and flashbacks
@Master5
@Master5 3 года назад
I think I just heard something like this in some Dream Theater song...
@kamik7372
@kamik7372 Год назад
find myself genuinely anticipating the sound created by each section. The visuals definitely help the experience in that regard. Good job.
@crazygoji
@crazygoji 6 лет назад
4:25 is fugin aaccceee
@baileyrob
@baileyrob 6 лет назад
What I can only describe as a 'colourful curtain of music'.
@kjl3080
@kjl3080 3 года назад
Ladies and gentlemen, forget polymeter Omnimeter is the new trend
@LeVezz
@LeVezz 2 года назад
4:33 - 4:55 That nasty descending section is so dense. There's like 6 or 7 patterns going on at the same time and it works because it all goes downwise chromatically. Great !!!
@AgemIronn
@AgemIronn 2 года назад
C'est d'la merde
@Viviantoga
@Viviantoga 6 лет назад
I feel like I should be listening to Mr. Rogers telling me how crayons are made alongside this piece.
@fartkerson
@fartkerson 5 лет назад
4:25 to 4:33 is beautiful!
@galactika
@galactika 5 лет назад
that's my favourite part too!!!!
@alvaro.makes.music1
@alvaro.makes.music1 3 года назад
@@galactika Same!
@sycabara9229
@sycabara9229 10 лет назад
I like how smalin put the visual score at the bottom of the video, lining it up with youtube's time tracker, so you can switch to any point in the piece easily.
@smalin
@smalin 10 лет назад
Actually, I didn't do that intentionally; it just worked out that way ... pretty nice.
@clumma
@clumma 10 лет назад
smalin How else could it have worked out?
@smalin
@smalin 10 лет назад
Carl Lumma Well, for example, it doesn't work that way when you play it on an iPad (because the scroll bar for the video doesn't extend the full width of the display).
@Wayne_Robinson
@Wayne_Robinson 7 лет назад
The visualization is really nice, especially having the full score at the bottom with current region highlighting.
@samandor1
@samandor1 7 лет назад
Anyone know what software was used to replicate the player piano roll on a digital synth? This is pretty fascinating to watch.
@samandor1
@samandor1 6 лет назад
Andrew Mciver Very cool! Do you know how the visual was prepared? It’s mesmerizing to watch. My guess is that it’s a tool that reproduces what is on the paper roll, for digital instruments. Just curious about the process.
@erdjohann8265
@erdjohann8265 Год назад
those eight seconds of pure heavenly bliss from 4:25 to 4:33
@eladhen2
@eladhen2 7 лет назад
I can't stop replaying this. I find it absolutely mesmerizing.
@secrets7301
@secrets7301 7 лет назад
4:25 so pretty
@alvaro.makes.music1
@alvaro.makes.music1 6 лет назад
It's amazing
@Master5
@Master5 3 года назад
2:07 *PLACING MINECRAFT BLOCKS BE LIKE*
@looney1023
@looney1023 6 лет назад
That last chord is so satisfying. It's like order out of chaos :D
@fiandrhi
@fiandrhi 3 года назад
The beauty of Nancarrow's very challenging music seems to almost require visualization like this to be completely appreciated. Thank you.
@Monoshi34
@Monoshi34 10 лет назад
smalin, you're drunk, go home.
@cloudhatake
@cloudhatake 10 лет назад
LOL This comment literally made my day.
@mikesimpson3207
@mikesimpson3207 6 лет назад
This has to be my favorite by Nancarrow. It's so grand and ambitious, the effect of the tail end of one canon being interrupted by the start of a contrasting one is great, and IMO this one has such a compelling emotional journey to it. That ending, with the way it builds in intensity almost to the breaking point, then suddenly relaxes into that sweet major cadence, is very poignant.
@andres-quezada
@andres-quezada 5 лет назад
0:09 1 0:34 2 0:54 3 1:14 4 2:07 5 3:27 6 4:17 7 5:04 8 6:17 9 7:00 10 7:33 11 8:07 12
@wilh3lmmusic
@wilh3lmmusic 3 года назад
4:26 sounds almost impressionistic
@yat_ii
@yat_ii 2 месяца назад
It sounds like ades
@BmakinFilm
@BmakinFilm Год назад
fascinating video! it would be cool to have that as program (like apple's Visualizer) to represent any song...
@smalin
@smalin Год назад
My animations are generated from a score, in the form of a MIDI file, and there are lots of MIDI visualizers out there. Doing it from audio is much harder, and the state of the art is "not ready for prime time" (conversion from audio to MIDI has lots of wrong notes).
@ichbinderhund2109
@ichbinderhund2109 Год назад
1 months with simply piano
@antrix2107
@antrix2107 Год назад
😂😂
@sebastianzaczek
@sebastianzaczek 5 лет назад
The ending... all Chaos resulting in an F minor chord...
@darealjansolo
@darealjansolo Год назад
next to 4:25 one of the most stunning parts of this cosmic composition
@ryang7759
@ryang7759 5 лет назад
Thank you for posting this. I appreciate Nancarrow even more now.
@smalin
@smalin 5 лет назад
I appreciated him more after making these videos. ru-vid.com/group/PLtj_HurkS7Zz32Uzx_Oa8p_wnLWwbINi9
@GoldenShip24
@GoldenShip24 8 лет назад
It's pretty to watch. To listen to, not so much :) There are nice parts though, like at ~3:22 (sounds like water/rain) and 4:25-4:34 and 10:06 (! wow
@smalin
@smalin 8 лет назад
Keep trying until your ears catch up with your eyes.
@lorenzmuller5083
@lorenzmuller5083 2 года назад
Study No. 37 is a lot to take in if you are new to Nancarrow - so ti anybody having trouble with this, I'd suggest checking out anything from #1 to about #12 (which are far less complex and more tonal)
@lth_lch
@lth_lch 9 лет назад
I'm not really certain what to make of this, but I think I liked it. I think...
@smalin
@smalin 9 лет назад
That's probably good enough.
@lth_lch
@lth_lch 9 лет назад
smalin I mean, most of my friends and family would probably say that this just sounds like a bunch of cats jumped around on a keyboard for ten and a half minutes, but I can't help but feel, well, moved. It's a perplexing feeling, to say the least.
@smalin
@smalin 9 лет назад
Bradford Tiongko Our reaction to music is largely inexplicable. You can get used to it, but you can't really explain it. If you had never heard music, all music would sound like cats on a keyboard ... but some of it would move you. Why should it?
@gre8
@gre8 10 лет назад
Well, I can find this interesting. Schönberg however, I just can't bring myself to like it.
@pRahvi0
@pRahvi0 10 лет назад
It's propably a coincidence, but the colored and compressed score at the bottom of the video looks like a piece of art itself.
@johnappleseed8369
@johnappleseed8369 7 лет назад
Still one of my all time favorite pieces of music. Nancarrow's oeuvre is a Bible of canons and highly complex experiments in musical perception wrapped in some of the most fun, enjoyable, sometimes humorous and beautiful music, period!
@ramonster163
@ramonster163 7 лет назад
Well, I appreciate the academic value of his works. But subjectively, I do not personally consider this good music. But nonetheless, very interesting to look at/listen to.
@keldandersen4911
@keldandersen4911 5 лет назад
Does anybody now about any midi files, preferably this nbr. 37?
@cimmik
@cimmik 7 лет назад
That gave me so many new ideas for new compositions!
@jiafeiskinnyproducts
@jiafeiskinnyproducts 7 лет назад
cimmik I call this one, smashing as many keys as I can in 10 seconds.
@colins7771
@colins7771 6 лет назад
this is FUCKING AWESOME
@kevinnguyen552
@kevinnguyen552 Год назад
I like the visuals but I don't like the music
@smalin
@smalin Год назад
Maybe, for you, it’s music to watch and think about, but not for listening to.
@kevinnguyen552
@kevinnguyen552 Год назад
@@smalin ah, that makes more sense
@damienwilliams7566
@damienwilliams7566 5 лет назад
Nancarrow was a genius....his work is amazing...if only he could see it represented like this.....
@GibusWearingMann
@GibusWearingMann 6 лет назад
Pro tip: Make sure the synth and the vocals are in the SAME KEY!
@GibusWearingMann
@GibusWearingMann 6 лет назад
if you didn't get it, it's a reference/meme: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-JXfQsHT5c30.html For the record, I do find this incredibly fascinating.
@prestokrevlar
@prestokrevlar 6 лет назад
Ayee.
@blergbormfp8264
@blergbormfp8264 6 лет назад
I imagine a few have tried, and died, to play this piece
@dhu2056
@dhu2056 6 лет назад
6:18 Ben Johnston's 9th String Quartet, II?
@izotop8441
@izotop8441 6 лет назад
play this to the aliens
@daveking4974
@daveking4974 5 лет назад
Arnold Schoenberg would have loved this device as he wasn't much of a pianist.
@twohorns9506
@twohorns9506 7 лет назад
I once heard that music will one day be created by computers and only heard by other computers. Is this that music?
@smalin
@smalin 7 лет назад
No.
@Alomoes
@Alomoes 7 лет назад
Two Horns There already is computer generated music.
@marcelo90z
@marcelo90z 7 лет назад
This is nothing more than studies of a mathematician with an automated ragtime piano. It's not meant to be enjoyed, he just tested the limits of music
@JD..........
@JD.......... 4 года назад
The amount of work that went into this on your part is utterly staggering. I commend you! This is very interesting to watch.
@smalin
@smalin 4 года назад
Well, I did put several days' work into this ... but many other projects took orders of magnitude more effort. And, I've made over a thousand videos, each of which takes me an average of about two days to produce.
@JD..........
@JD.......... 3 года назад
@@smalin I’ve been watching your videos for years, so great! What others would you say took even more time?
@smalin
@smalin 3 года назад
@@JD.......... The Rite of Spring took months. I spent lots of time on the Art of Fugue, and the Beethoven String Quartets. Also the Haydn opus 20 quartets. And the version of Tallis' Spem in alium (that I did as a commission for the ORA Singers).
@AsatangOnapig
@AsatangOnapig Год назад
Dutch composer Maarten Regtien finishes his piano composition "Zo hoor ik het graag!" / "That's the spirit!" with an ode to the amazing pianola music of Conlon Nancarrow! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UHmbZEpYLQo.html
@inglesconalan5360
@inglesconalan5360 4 года назад
The animation is stunning. I appreciate it even more with the volume turned down.
@andresyanez4160
@andresyanez4160 4 года назад
I’m so angry I laughed at that 😂😂
@davidkapral
@davidkapral 4 года назад
Boooo 👎🏻
@WarpZone10
@WarpZone10 10 лет назад
I didn't really start to appreciate this until around the #6 mark. The fact it started while #5 was still twinkling about grabbed my interest, and its buildup into the music release at #7 is delightful. That was the point, for me, where the piece stopped being a collection of boring, simplistic patterns played on top of each other at slightly different tempos, and turned into music. Thanks for putting this on your channel. It got me out of my comfort zone.
@archerbrown588
@archerbrown588 9 лет назад
Nancarrow hurts my brain
@AdamMaykov
@AdamMaykov 4 года назад
my head started to hurt
@dragmio
@dragmio 6 лет назад
This is sheer genius. Why am I hearing about this only now? And every kid knows about Schonberg, Webern and Berg.
@smalin
@smalin 6 лет назад
There are many reasons. A main one is that his work mostly stayed in Mexico until the mid-1970s. Another is that it is mostly for player piano, so public performances are rarely feasible. Another is that many of his techniques (rhythms governed by relationships other than equal subdivisions and small whole-number ratios) are beyond the capability of most performers, and have therefore not been widely used by other composers (compare Debussy, whose harmonic language was adopted by classical composers, jazz musicians, etc.). Like Glenn Gould, he did most of his work in private, in a studio, but unlike Gould, he didn't start out being world famous. These things add up.
@smalin
@smalin 6 лет назад
"every kid" :-D
@finosuilleabhain7781
@finosuilleabhain7781 6 лет назад
Yep, the kids around my way all think Webern is passe - they listen mostly to early Boulez and the spectralists.
@dragmio
@dragmio 6 лет назад
I live in eastern Europe and everyone who goes to high school here has heard about Schonberg, Webern and Berg because it's a part of the school curriculum. Sophomore year IIRC. The class is Musical Arts.
@coloripple
@coloripple 5 лет назад
4:25 wow what a lovely surprise
@alvaro.makes.music1
@alvaro.makes.music1 5 лет назад
That part fucking blew my mind!! Genius
@galactika
@galactika 5 лет назад
yes!!
@prestokrevlar
@prestokrevlar 7 лет назад
Because music is math, any time signature is possible.
@SissyFlower5
@SissyFlower5 7 лет назад
As a musician and a mathematician, yes.
@Sparkygravity
@Sparkygravity 10 лет назад
Wow I'm really happy that you posted this with a graphical score, because i don't think I would have been able to understand what was going on without it. The overlapping sequences... the repeated motifs at different timings. It just sounds likes gibber-gabber and key mashing to me without the graphical accompaniment. That being said I'm really torn on an intellectual versus asthetical level. The technical ability to play this is crazy and I can really appreciate the artistry and talent. The technical aspects of the playing just go so far beyond what I'm used too. That being said since I don't have the ear to pick out much without the graphical accompaniment... it sounds TERRIBLE I don't think it's very pleasant to listen too, and in general I really dislike high-brow media. This video leaves me so conflicted... Do I like it? or hate it? I can't tell... but I'm very appreciative that you exposed me to this type of musical study in a way I could sorta understand it.
@smalin
@smalin 10 лет назад
It's okay to be undecided! Remember, these are studies; Nancarrow was experimenting, trying new things, things that hadn't been possible before (because they were too difficult for live musicians to perform). He was doing this to learn how these materials and techniques work. A listener needs to do the same thing. This is the antithesis of "easy listening" --- especially at first. A large part of the pleasure music provides comes from our understanding it, being able to anticipate it. You can't expect your experience to be the same as for styles of music you're familiar with.
@riverdelta7052
@riverdelta7052 2 года назад
6:10 The Mii Channel Theme
@gio194
@gio194 2 года назад
hahahaha
@shjgwg
@shjgwg 9 лет назад
holy.fuck. smalin thank you much, i havent had the pleasure listening to this piece before, you know, im a young man of 19 years who is studying contemporary composition in germany. i really love bachs approach to polyphonic music and i have been trying to find a way to use it for my music without sounding too much like a baroque composer for years. this piece you uploaded just made me imagine several ways to truly reanimate the fugue in contemporary music! thank you!
@smalin
@smalin 9 лет назад
shjgwg :-)
@shjgwg
@shjgwg 9 лет назад
smalin btw, i really love your idea to put a "score" into your videos. would love to see it in your next works as well ! but i guess its rather time-consuming (as is the whole process of making these videos i can imagine), right ?
@smalin
@smalin 9 лет назад
shjgwg By "score" do you mean the overview at the bottom?
@shjgwg
@shjgwg 9 лет назад
smalin exactly
@smalin
@smalin 9 лет назад
shjgwg I've used them in some other videos.
@nostalgiakarlk.f.7386
@nostalgiakarlk.f.7386 10 лет назад
OH HORRIBLE!!!!!
@Mattteus
@Mattteus 7 лет назад
this reminds me of Ryuichi Sakamoto's Chorale II where the two parts play the same thing in different octaves but two beats apart
@slo8503
@slo8503 10 лет назад
Is this even music
@LimeHunter7
@LimeHunter7 10 лет назад
C'mon, you know that's the wrong kind of question to be asking. ... But if you really want an answer, it's "For a sufficiently broad definition of music."
@berndwang8934
@berndwang8934 9 лет назад
Ligeti must have heard this before he wrote his etudes.
@johnappleseed8369
@johnappleseed8369 8 лет назад
The two where both aware of eachother, Nancarrow even dedicated a piece to Ligeti!
@b43xoit
@b43xoit 7 лет назад
I hadn't thought before about the possibility that player piani could be made to do things piano players cannot. And some of those possibilities could have artistic value.
@smalin
@smalin 7 лет назад
You might want to study Nancarrow's biography.
@Philhamm
@Philhamm 9 лет назад
Great video, and I love Smalin's level-headed responses to those who are dismissive/ aren't feeling this particular piece! Think of modern music as a garbage heap: after a while, the smell ain't so bad! Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to huff some dank Roger Sessions symphonies...
@smalin
@smalin 9 лет назад
Big Lemons I'm trying to come up with a level-headed response to your comparing modern music to a garbage heap ... but I'm having a hard time resisting sarcasm ...
@Philhamm
@Philhamm 9 лет назад
Just trying to say that it might not be to most people's liking at first, but you get used to it. It is quite an offensive comparison, I will admit!
@Philhamm
@Philhamm 9 лет назад
I don't know if it would be productive. Your viewpoint seems to be very aggressively conservative (from what google translate told me). I really don't think there is anything else to be said that the other commenter (who responded to your spanish post) has not already said. Did you enjoy Amériques? ; D
@Philhamm
@Philhamm 9 лет назад
Oh, I posted a comment on your youtube channel with a link to an orchestral piece you're sure to hate. Amériques (Original version) by Edgard Varèse. Ruffling your feathers
@someonespecial1329
@someonespecial1329 7 лет назад
this is my jam.
@johnappleseed8369
@johnappleseed8369 7 лет назад
It's amazing :)
@augustdesmond6443
@augustdesmond6443 4 года назад
An excellent and informative presentation of a Nancarrow masterpiece
@1schwererziehbar1
@1schwererziehbar1 10 лет назад
This sounds like Will I Am without Autotune.
@Lellistair
@Lellistair 6 лет назад
It's like Frankenstein's monster, absolute genius but a horrible grotesque abomination nonetheless
@jamesbench5339
@jamesbench5339 4 года назад
Yes
@_joapa
@_joapa 9 лет назад
I wonder how this piece would soubd when reversed and/or "upside down."
@klangschatten5610
@klangschatten5610 3 года назад
Beautiful music, nice video.
@egonwilhelmbremer-strauss2607
@egonwilhelmbremer-strauss2607 3 года назад
omg , play this at 2x speed lmfao
@syd5380
@syd5380 7 лет назад
I keep coming back to this I just love it so much
@komradekontroll
@komradekontroll 7 лет назад
maths homie
@cedriccapou2973
@cedriccapou2973 9 лет назад
how many cats walked on the piano ??
@johnappleseed8369
@johnappleseed8369 7 лет назад
0
@supermarc
@supermarc 9 лет назад
I'm pretty sure 3:00 is not humanly possible..
@TravelWithYoga
@TravelWithYoga 10 лет назад
So much fun; makes me want to learn playing the piano. Andreya
@MrWiggerdale123
@MrWiggerdale123 10 лет назад
The ending is so beautiful :')
@abccba-wg5wu
@abccba-wg5wu 10 лет назад
Please do Debussy - Reverie
@smalin
@smalin 10 лет назад
See "Could you please ..." in the FAQ.
@akhijannunhal-kavit149
@akhijannunhal-kavit149 7 лет назад
Pretty interesting form of music
@prestokrevlar
@prestokrevlar 6 лет назад
I didn't expect it to end so beautifully. I like it.
@socialesadultosutebo856
@socialesadultosutebo856 2 года назад
genius!
@tiagomarques9822
@tiagomarques9822 10 лет назад
I'm not a fan of this kind of cerebral music (although I am pretty cerebral myself and have performed such music at times), but I do find this fascinating. Even without the visual part, one can often understand the intent of the composer, but the video surely helps, and it is beautiful as well.
@Uttarayan
@Uttarayan 10 лет назад
@smalin HEy ! we v been talking about that like 4 or 5 years ago, and u finally did it, showing the whole composition in a single picture ! cool, really interesting, and definitly linked to your work.
@MrApocalisse
@MrApocalisse 10 лет назад
honestly I only find two sections of this to be interesting,the rest are just patterns badly mixed up,IMO
@marioabra
@marioabra 9 лет назад
GENIAL MASTER!!!!!!!
@Baton793
@Baton793 7 лет назад
WHY
@haidbz
@haidbz 7 лет назад
Baton793 because we all love us some mind bending math in our music... right?
@linguistmuz
@linguistmuz 8 лет назад
Wow......... This truly opens up new perspectives. Big kudos to you for realizing these scores.
@zorglubshiva4464
@zorglubshiva4464 10 лет назад
I like this music that I did not know one hour ago, don't be SQUARE & OPEN YOUR MIND folks ;) Claude Debussy écrivait : *« Je le sais, je suis très critiqué, cela arrive toujours quand on fait du nouveau, mais, si j’ai trouvé quelque chose, c’est, croyez-le bien, une quantité infime de ce qui reste à faire, car, je le dis en tremblant, je crois bien que la musique a reposé jusqu’à aujourd’hui sur un principe faux. On cherche trop à écrire, on fait de la musique pour le papier alors qu’elle est faite pour les oreilles ! (…) On n’écoute pas autour de soi les mille bruits de la nature, on ne guette pas assez cette musique si variée qu’elle nous offre avec tant d’abondance. Elle nous enveloppe, et nous avons vécu au milieu d’elle jusqu’à présent sans nous en apercevoir. Voilà selon moi la voie nouvelle. Mais croyez-le bien, je l’ai à peine entrevue car ce qu’il reste à faire est immense ! Et celui qui le fera…sera un grand homme ! »* Claude Debussy, Monsieur Croche, in « La musique d’aujourd’hui et celle de demain »
@luva9007
@luva9007 10 лет назад
A great animation such as always. The piece is ... special, isn't it?
@Pricher1991
@Pricher1991 10 лет назад
was ein Müll
@TheDaveBloom
@TheDaveBloom 10 лет назад
How is this "transcribed" for the program? Are you able to set, for example, the voice in red at a different tempo than the voice in blue, or do you have to individually divide the faster voices into subdivisions of the slower voices, and set the whole thing at one tempo? I'm curious if it would be possible to transcribe this into western music notation without having 12 staves with 12 different tempi.
@smalin
@smalin 10 лет назад
Chris Sansom input the notes from the published score (which is written in 12 staves with 12 different tempi). Trimpin read the notes from Nancarrow's roll. I wrote software that applied the roll timings to the score data.
@youmakeagreatpointand3043
@youmakeagreatpointand3043 10 лет назад
sad robot goes funny amiright :)
@squirrelterritory
@squirrelterritory 10 лет назад
In what way is this enjoyed by those who like it?
@smalin
@smalin 10 лет назад
That's a good question, but a very hard one to answer. How is any music enjoyed? It makes you feel good (or makes you feel some way that you like or value) to hear it ... but what kind of "good"? If you read David Huron's book Sweet Anticipation, you can learn about how it works (from a technical/philosophical point of view). But for how it works for a particular person for a particular point in a particular piece ... it's all over the map. For me, this is like Bach, except with the focus being on rhythm instead of on harmony/tonality.
@edwardowen2
@edwardowen2 10 лет назад
Squirrelterritory smalin I am not a musician, but maybe I can give a lay person's answer to this question. When I listened to this I was stimulated, much of it at first felt ugly. However I was drawn to listen to it again many times maybe because I wanted to understand my discontent at some of the sounds, and because it had structure. Now when I listen to it sections begin to feel increasingly beautiful to me. For example the transition from 3 to 4, and 4 itself sounds delicate and beautiful to me. Uglyness seems unduely intolerated in music, where it is given more space in other arts, as something in its own right to be studied, or as a setting against which beauty can be contrasted.
@IkranAhiyik
@IkranAhiyik 10 лет назад
I would like to add a few words too: other than it's interesting structural meaning in it, in some places even its harmony worth attention. I used to hate the classical music since 20th century, since they sound a lot less pleasant (yeah). But I've learnt a point in a course I'm taking now, "After 'suffering' from a long brunch of serious dissonance, those which are consonance would sound much more pleasant, when you get to it. This effect, from extreme contrast, could never be found in the earlier music." And now, listen to the final chord. Wow. // Of course, the focus should be on its usage of augmentation, fully over the harmony. The ratios in it are not the traditional 2x, 3x or 4x, but some floats very close to 1, which creates the trapezium shapes in the visual graph, which looks quite funny. If you link those you see to what you hear, you might be able to appreciate it to some extent.
@squirrelterritory
@squirrelterritory 10 лет назад
IkranAhiyik Thanks for the really informative comment, but what do you mean when you say structure. I also noticed this contrast thing composers do, Debussy often times puts a diminished chord at the entrance of his songs just to make them sound more consonant
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