Nancy Brophy testimony, Day 21 afternoon session | Live stream 

Dan sounds like a goddamn Renaissance man! What the hell did he see in this Benjamin Franklin cosplayer?

@@tranquilrabies "Benjamin Franklin cosplayer" 😅🤣

@@tranquilrabies I know. I'll never understand what he saw in that lipless, cackling cow.

omg too funny 😁

He sounds wonderful...passionate about cooking. He was wasted on her.

And remain unencumbered by the weight of a purse. Just put your credit card and phone in your bra🤢🤮

And be sure to artificially lengthen every sentence to an absurd degree by stuffing them with as much pointless filler words as possible. "I'm not sure why I don't remember getting coffee that morning, and the reason why I'm not sure why I don't remember getting coffee that morning is because I always got coffee every morning, it was my routine, I got coffee every day and it was just something I did. I would say to Dan, well I DID say to Dan, I really like this one certain type of coffee, and as it turned out they serve that coffee at our favorite bed and breakfast in Vashon Island in Washington, which was always closed in the middle of January, and we never stayed there overnight but we ate there all the time and the food was fabulous. But the only way to get there was....I'm sorry, I forgot what the question was."

​@@WobblesandBean Hahaha, perfect parody!!

😂​@@debbiejones4935

Drink every time she says bra

And she looks like George Washington

@@salbonpensiero1704 LOL..🤣

He was a chef #1. He was younger than her #2. She had a job selling Medicare #3. He was obviously a hoarder, great guy, but a hoarder, she did all the finances, because he hadn't a clue (in the end she was also a spender), sounds pretty evenly split to me, 25 years and they seemed very close.

@@sandrabentley8111 #1 she met him taking his culinary class so she knows how to cook too #2 She was a whopping 4 years older, no significant difference imo #3 He was a hoarder but she blew all their finances trying to live above their means and did it behind his back so she did a HORRIBLE job handling the finances. #3 What kind of woman doesn't cook her husband dinner once in 25 years? I'm not saying she should every night but idk like once a year inst too much to expect? She sounds selfish and lazy. It doesn't sound like an even split to me. He worked 2 jobs, sold vegetables/fruit from his gardens and brought in more income than her the entire 25 years. Sounds like she wasted most of her time writing perverted books about her sexual fantasies. But let me guess "he's a man that's his job!" But when it comes to cooking dinner it's "just because she's a woman she doesn't have to cook that's sexist".

Gee, I'd love a house that only needs cooking and laundry done. I guess my 'vacuuming, bathroom cleaning, dishwashing, wood work scrubbing, grocery shopping, floor scrubbing fairy' wasn't assigned to me. My late husband (I didn't kill him) cooked most of the time and cleaned the bathrooms. I did everything else and worked outside the home too. Trust me, 'absolutely nothing' is not what she did if that's all he did.

Yes. And I think she loved the opportunity to talk about her writing, which - in the real world - nobody could care less about.

Ugh, seriously. Her entire testimony took two full days! She talked for over six hours. *_Six. Hours._*

i notice that the prosecutor isn't objecting to all the leading being done by the defense probably because the more brophy talks the more guilty and crazy she appears. i can't imagine spending 25 years with this loon.

People who like to hear themselves talk should learn to do so without a lisp. She pronouncing all her S's with a shhhh sound is driving me freaking nuts.

SHE UNALIVED him!!

Yasssss!!!!! It’s like this is an interview about HER life before and after Dan was murdered… and it’s like she’s talking about Dan as if he just died peacefully in his sleep! Blows my mind how self centered she can still be when on the stand being accused of his murder, she finds a way to make every question about what she went thru and the tragedy his death CAUSED her to go thru and ignoring the fact that Dan has no life at all now bc of being murdered! She’s so disgusting! And then to act like she and Dan’s mother are the only ones who can grieve or grieved for him!! Omg it’s just sick!! Especially when she knows that she was the one who murdered him!

Yeah she's rather entertaining to watch.

Her incessant cackling is so off-putting. She's on trial for the _murder of her husband,_ and yet she's up there bantering away, having the time of her life! Seriously, Nancy? 🤦🏼‍♀️ The courtroom is eerily silent when she laughs at her own jokes, too. You can tell everyone there is stunned.

Spot on! 👏👏👏

Damn that’s crazy, she’s so cold!

She told another one in the death notification. She told the cops "Dan's not having a good week". Yeah, that's, uh... that's a yikes. 😬 How can she think any of this is funny? She's up there laughing at her own jokes, but the courtroom is *dead silent.* Everyone in there is just as appalled as we are.

I never caught that!

Wow. That crazy red nose. She looks like W. C. Fields. 😮

You’ve never heard of dark humor?

Lol, exactly!

She thought she’d become a character in one of her own terrible, romance novels. Living in Portugal, sipping wine in a hot tub with a former navy seal.

😂😂😂

She would probably love it she loves herself sooo much

Hers or books written by other failed murderer authors like John Orr or Michael Petersen.

Now that’s cruel and unusual punishment.

Lol 😂 How Ghastly !

I reached that point when she mentioned stuffing things in her bra three times in a single sentence.

And they had more than one pair! Gross. No one wants to think about this hag wearing fur-lined handcuffs!

​@@aimeerestad6521I didn't even know they made fur lined handcuffs😱

​@@sheinFL Oh, you sweet, sweet summer child.

I don’t know if you watched the trial through until the end but defence decided to double down on blaming the poor defenceless homeless guy and said in closing statements that apparently after he managed to find Dan in that labyrinth he then decided to casually head to the restaurant and steal some wine and one candle . Because you know - why not . And all in around 6 mins .

@@erinw8787 Precisely what I would steal as a homeless person. Not any food, not the pocket money of the man I had randomly murdered... but a candle. That makes perfect sense.

But the bullets that killed her husband, were not a match for her Glock! Truly there really should be reasonable doubt here. Yes the vehicle on cctv is a big problem for her, but really they both seemed like the perfect, slightly cookie, older couple. I think she loved him a lot and vis versa.

@@sandrabentley8111 Hopefully you’re never on a jury.

@@sandrabentley8111 that's because he was killed with a ghost gun she had hidden and didn't tell the police about until they looked through her bank statements and saw the transaction buying a different slide for the same exact gun. The Glock was just a front gun she owned to throw police off, which she gave to them immediately. They didn't retrieve the hidden ghost gun until later after going through all her totes when she was moving. The bullets did match the second slide she bought for the ghost gun that conveniently disappeared and has never been found. Why would she buy a separate identical slide for a gun that already had a perfectly functional slide? The only logical reason is so she can shoot the gun with one slide, get rid of that slide and replace it with the unused slide to make the gun appear that it had never been fired. The "I was obsessed with gun parts because I was writing one of my perverted books" excuse is so lame and unbelievable. There is NO reasonable doubt whatsoever, her car was literally on camera at the crime scene during the murder and she lied to police and said she was home the entire time. The ridiculous life insurance policies that only make sense if you plan on the person dying soon and the fact she told Dan's mother he was dead before she was even told by police makes her 100% guilty.

Drama queen

Right? She straight up contradicts herself many times, then gets angry when the prosecutor calls her out on it. 😂 She tries so hard to avoid answering questions about how she can be so sure she didn't shoot him if she doesn't remember that highly specific 8 minute window.

@@sheinFL Right?? She even paused for dramatic effect when she said "that's when I knew...waitaminnit....when I knew DAN WAS DEAD!" 🤦🏼‍♀️

Later on, I love how prosecutor brings up how she hasn’t been emotional, and the second he brings it up, she has a very lame attempt at seeming sad. But of course it instantly it goes away.

@@bangbangboogie8671 Yuuuuuup. No tears at all. She tries to sniffle but her nose is bone dry, and her voice goes from her usual squawking to...well more squawking, but an octave higher. Then within seconds, she INSTANTLY drops the act. All this after she told her own lawyer how much she "hates crying in public". 🙄

Ha. And no more Starbucks!

@@thelmakitty11 ahahaha

Didn't she say she drove to get Starbucks? Is that the same route as the college/institute?

@@sandrabentley8111 they lived in different city called Beaverton not too far from where Dan worked in Portland. There are 6 Starbucks in Beaverton with 3 that are literally on the way if your heading out towards Portland that are all obviously much much closer to her home. There is a Starbucks that's only a 3 minute drive from the culinary institute but she still drove 30 minutes from a different city (that had 6 Starbucks) all the way to Portland to get coffee there conveniently next to Dan's work and during the small window of time he was killed.

That is because she is still in shock that all her plotting has come to fruition, Dan is dead because she killed him as planned, and she is dreaming of how to spend all the insurance money. That is quite a shock to overcome for anyone and of course, memory can become blurred selectively for self-preservation.

@@salbonpensiero1704 This "Sandra" person has to be Nancy. It is the only exlpanation I can think of. Her constant defending of this obviously guilty person is just plain stupid.

@@debbielockhart7762 I agree. It's gotta be a Nancy sock.

The Amber Heard effect!

Like the tik toks where the thots show off their acting skills by crying then stopping abruptly to show its an act.

She's infuriating. Aside from that cackle, the way she snorts and loudly slurps her water is making my blood pressure rise.

#Fact

Did you mean 2:42:00 instead? For me, it's not just that she laughs inappropriately, but you can hear a pin drop in that courtroom. NO ONE is finding any of this amusing, Nancy.

Yup. I forget who said it, but it was some some of indicator when someone is lying because they add way too many useless details trying to look more genuine. With Nancy, she has a whole ass essay of ancillary nonsense for every single response 🙄

Yes. She had to plot a murder over many months (years?) while budgeting for the ghost gun, Glock and slide barrel, stay on top of life insurance before foreclosure, feed stories about her writing/research, poll the family about their gun ownership, scout the school on a Saturday and not raise suspicion from Dan (what did he think when she left before he did that morning?!) then lastly fool the cops. It really would have been simpler - let alone better - to just keep a job, curb her spending and be a good, if prtend, loving gramma. She baffles me.

@@WobblesandBean I watched The Behavior Panel analyze her. That's exactly what they said about too many irrelevant details. It's a way to distract and deflect. Their analysis was fascinating. These guys know guns and they thought she was laughable about her gun "knowledge."

@@ionaadventure I'm still laughing at the fact that she clearly bought the ghost gun to use in the murder, couldn't figure out how to put it together, so just bought a slide and barrel on *_friggin' EBAY_* thinking it wouldn't link back to her! 😂

​@Rebekah Spivey I just saw that they have a 2.5 hour video about her testimony. Thank you so much for the suggestion!

I've been watching this and all other videos with this story for weeks..I can't stop..she's really sick!

@@brianking2771 You’ll love the podcast, “Happily Never After: Dan and Nancy”

@@buddyzpal I'ma check it out

​@@buddyzpalI listened to the Podcast and it's crazy

I’m sure they advised her not to take the stand

It appears her lawyers simply went through the hoops of court procedures after they realised she was a narcissistic basket case.

Her lawyers didn’t appear to prepare her for cross, heck they weren’t prepared for direct . I’ve never witnessed such inept lawyers . These 2 women will be famous someday , my idea is they will be showcased in a law class showing what not to do while defending a client .

The fast little "Um hum" is also cringe and beyond annoying

​@f.frederickskitty2910 I'm surprised the judge allows that, since the court reporter has to write down everything they say and a buzz of assent is kind of hard to notate. Mmhmm and mm-mm can have opposite meanings after all, and if the court reporter hears it incorrectly, the record is sullied.

Do you think she is so confident she'll get off then?

I found her very charming and very intelligent.

omg - yes, it IS a murder trial. FM

@@tourdedogue4952 People thought the same of Ted Bundy

@@tourdedogue4952 so did Dan and look where it got him.

She _haaaaaated_ the prosecutor. Her real personality showed through in cross. That recorded phone call where she demeans Dan's student who testified before her was a glimpse of the real Nancy, too.

@@WobblesandBean- yes. We saw the real Nancy. Nasty

Me, too. My heart breaks for the Brophys. Nancy stole their van, forced their son to work two full time jobs on top of doing all of the cooking and cleaning, ruined his credit by taking out cards and loans in his name, and alienated their only grandchild out of their lives because of her meddling. There are no words for how irredeemable, insufferable, and utterly *_infuriating_* that wretched woman is.

@@WobblesandBean- take comfort in knowing she’s miserable in prison. She deserves it!

​@@JustMe-px9qy Oh I take great pleasure in it! I hope Dan's family are together for Christmas while she's alone and miserable in her jail cell.

@@WobblesandBean - there’s no Starbucks in prison. And Miss “ I like a nice bath” isn’t getting a nice bath in prison either. I’d love to hear how she’s adjusting to her new life.

Right I listen for 2 seconds then the lies I just couldn't allow in my brain

Right… at this point her mouth is her worst enemy

I think that's why defense attorneys seem to usually advise their clients against taking the stand and personally as a juror, I think I would understand a defendant that doesn't. Even if a person is innocent.. it's just creating extra opportunities for the jury to make opinions based off feelings or their own expectations rather than facts. I think we forget how dramatically different other people's realities are and just how vastly different people can react to/think about situations. Whose to say that a person shouldn't or wouldn't be laughing/making jokes etc about/after the loss of a spouse.. however, to probably most people that is going to feel odd, unsettling or just "wrong". Honestly, I would maybe feel the slightest bit bad for Nancy and the reason being "ineffective counsel". After watching almost all of the days up til now.. it seems like Nancy and her lawyers spent more time chit chatting rather than preparing for a murder trial.

Her lawyer did Nancy zero favors. I would love to hear another lawyer's thoughts on where she went wrong in her direct.

What evidence? The gun that killed him wasn't the Glock!

I thought before she got there she had heard there was a fatality. Right?

@@annieb5647 Supposedly she had heard there was a fatality but she seemed to know it was Dan who died when it could have been someone else instead.

On the way over it was reported someone died and that they had been shot. There aren’t many people at the school at that time. When she said she was the wife of Dan brophy a teacher here they said wait someone will come talk to you. That is supposedly why. She for sure did it. But she remember there were ‘reasons’ why.

Thank God that girl came secs agreed Nancy pulled away. She would've seen Nancy fleeing OCI Nancy would if shot and killed her. That's really scary agreed very lucky.

Point is she thinks she is smarter than others. Uncharming arrogance

Or to go mushrooming! I’m an Aus, so different culture, but in QLD, NSW, & SA we didn’t need guns for protection due to precious Mushrooms Owners. 🍄🍄🙄🤣

Huh? Why can't she be worried for him and why would he bring his firearm to a school?

She had already bought the gun by then, maybe even 2 guns.

​@@Anonymous38572 The point is, she bought a ghost gun kit, couldn't figure out how to put it together, so she bought a glock thinking she could just swap out the slide with the ghost gun one. But she's an idio† and bought a different model of glock, so she went on eBay and specifically bought a slide for the glock. Not once did Dan carry the gun, plus she bought and wrapped it for herself for Christmas, not Dan, so her story that she got it for his protection is pure BS.

Her constant "mmhmm" instead of "yes" wore on my nerves. She was that uninterested in this that she couldn't utter a "yes". I'm surprised the attorneys didn't call her on it, if for the court reporter alone.

There were more objections throughout the trial. Can't really object without a basis.. I would assume the prosecution has no problem with Nancy talking on and on, she can't keep up with her own lies. She jumped in things before having a plan, but she "rarely jumps in without a plan and without following through". She researches researches researches yet she's impulsive and does things when the mood hits her.

absolutely..the weirdest shit i have ever seen!

No need to object: Nancy's shooting herself in the foot. Let her blab...

Right? Her lawyer is standing there, brazenly asking leading questions, and I only heard one single objection!

It was like the twilight zone. The judge seemed to know zero about the case.

Not to mention she was defrauding her suppliers, refusing to pay her employees, and cutting all sorts of corners with the food going to clients. So yeah, it checks out.

That is such a gross practice. Just....ew

So disgusting 😖

@@debbiejones4935 warm up for prison

You misspelled "disgusting "😅

And "you know". If this had been a drinking game, we'd all be dead by the 30 minute mark!

@@WobblesandBean for sure!! 😂😂

@@WobblesandBeannot to mention when she says " hey" 😂

And then ALL the inconsistencies and her demeanor on cross - that’ll be the cherry!

It is hard to tell if people liked Nancy for Nancy, or because Dan cooked when Nancy had friends over. We didn't have any witnesses just like her. I don't think anyone really knew a lot about her. They knew a lot more about Dan.

Ikr! It’s like u think someone in that situation would be saying to their mother in law ‘Im here at the college and I haven’t seen Dan yet but I will call u when I do or as soon as I find out where he’s at’, but she just immediately says it’s Dan and he’s dead?? Like really lady? U jus knew bc someone hugged u? And I swear she hears a narrator in her head while she’s on the stand pretending to care and telling HER life story and everything SHE went thru. Me Me Me! I can’t imagine her having many friends at all with her self centered personality.

She will die in afew years in a prison hosp by herself alone and than she will feel the pain of being a heartless killer

I think at that postion you don't look at speculations, it is about human's life and only facts can do.

I audibly gasped when she said that!

And she probably thought that line was so funny and endear her to the Jury. I wouldn't doubt she thought she could use that line in a future book. God she is vile.

@@jeng8401 She really is. I'm sure she felt she was being endearing every time she cracked a joke at Dan's expense or laughed at inopportune times, too.

She's glib. She's heartless. She's empty.

​@@gsdogsmom Yup. Have you heard the police death notification? She tells them about how last week he needed stitches because the shower door "mysteriously" shattered when he touched it, then followed that up with "he's not having a good week". What. The. FU€K.

Ugh I know… it’s like the past 4 years she had written this book ( in her head) and is playing the character in the book .. seems very phony . Who is that happy and talkative giving a testimony??!! She wants to try and get the jury to get a full picture of this fictional story . I’m not buying it

During Direct it is not argumentative. And the prosecution is brilliant to let her babble on. She babbled so much during direct she gave the prosecutor lots to explore. He cannot come across as harsh because the jury will not like that. He will narrow her focus when it suits him. Her direct was short compared to other trials.

@@Elizabeth.C.Holmes Very good. I hope the jury will discuss all this...

And, I agree, the prosecutor has an especially soft voice with her. Knowing she just might be a grieving widow. Pretty brilliant. This is such a helpful forum.

I find her testimony uncomfortable to watch even when her attorney was doing the questioning. Her laid back mater of fact way of describing her and Dans relationship and how she can recall the tiniest details unless the questions from the prosecutor get too close to home and then she claims ignorance or amnesia.

Guess she was sleep driving......

My head was exploding too.

@@barbaragrove6097 Same here.

I saw her nose red and her having phlegm in throat like she was holding in the snot.

Are you serious? She got $8000 nothing else was paid. It was a murder no one gets anything until the investigation is over. All Dans murder did was put her in severe financial hardship. What she was entitled to get and what she did get are 2 totally seperate things. Maybe listen closer, all your points are mute as they were hypothetical scenario's put forward and not actual facts, except for help cleaning the property.

I doubt if many came up and recognized the world famous author that Nancy wanted to be lol yeah, she was jealous of Dan's abilities.

Good points. That for your insight

She was clearly bitter, but still tried to steal his thunder by claiming credit for herself. "Oh he's with me and I am the only person responsible for making him such a great man, so everyone loving Dan means everyone loves me by default."

@@sheinFL LOL this lipless cow organized a book signing for herself, and nobody showed up. 😂

Then he asked if Dan was jealous of her and she said "I can't see why he would be"

Did you notice Susan's excuse for breaking up the "successful partnership" with Nancy? She said that her daughter had had her first heartbreak and needed her so she had to go and be by her side. Fishy much?

She also mentioned, 'the maids are here early today". Lawn Warriers didn't show up. Whatever that means except, I was surprised they had enough money for 'maids'. Who calls people doing domestic, personal work for you, Maids? Bugs me.

@@tourdedogue4952 I saw maids on the On Point statement. Not being able to afford something didn't stop Nancy from spending.

And lets not forget she was living in a dorm room on ssi use free financial aid money when she meet Dan without a car.

@@starrlove2060 where did you find that info about her? I’m interested in reading more on it!

😂😂😂

​@@MrAllysonn For real though, I honestly cannot tolerate this woman! She clearly dgaf about mindfulness of others, or respecting their time. I have never seen anyone testify for more than two hours, let alone *_two whole ass days!_*

She thinks shes so interesting. Shes a bore.

You're not a writer unless you actually write. Making things up in your head is not writing. Nancy is not a writer. It's all delusional BS.

She thinks she's smarter than everyone in that room, including the judge, prosecutor, and the jury. Her doublespeak is infuriating, and she's far too arrogant to see that everyone can see right through her bad acting and lies.

I have a couple of books in my head. Hey look at me, I'm an author....

I rolled my eyes when she said that. Then her lawyer asks if either of them could run a business, and she says "I did". Asked if either of them could run a household, same answer. Didn't even mention his name, despite the fact that he was the only one running a business AND the household. 🙄

@@WobblesandBean I know! Same thoughts. How she got by as long as she did with her level of narcissism is amazing. The way she and her lawyer went on like they were having lunch just bothered me so much!

Totally agree. Convoluted. Good word for the way she explains and describes. Her *thinking* is convoluted. She said that Dan had said it's OK to get a gun after the school shooting in FL. When she got the gun she testified that he said maybe they should sell it since they had both decided they weren't going to use it, after which she immediately bought the slide and barrel. Who knows what Dan said &/or knew. She can say whatever she wants. And she makes things up as she goes. Barely makes sense half the time. Too many twists and turns in her stories, things don't add up.

@@barbaragrove6097 Thought provoking, thanks.

@@barbaragrove6097 Yes, you're right. After listening to her entire testimony today, my head is rather reeling from all her stories.

@@barbaragrove6097 Yup, nothing she said added up. First, she wanted the gun for Dan's protection (mushrooms and school), she never mentions she was going to be carrying it around. But then, she says the nice gentleman at the gun show persuaded to get a particular model as it was more suitable for a woman. Then she glosses over the purchase of the barrel (which apparently was stolen by the good people who volunteered to help her clean the house) by saying that "at that point I was obsessed with parts". What BS is that?

Exactly

Right? It's so off-putting! I have never seen anyone with no lips. None! Just a tiny slit. That bothers me, along with her horrid, tasteless "jokes" she kept laughing at, often at Dan's expense.

Don’t forget her twangy speech impediment. Like nails on a chalkboard

I don't understand that either. I'd love to get an attorneys take on it

​@debbiejones4935 just look up Oregon homicide laws.

"Nancy also had the arrogance to state (not even imply) that it was she who made Dan successful and popular". I thought that's what she said but wasn't sure. WOW JUST WOW. She's quite grandiose, narcissistic, delusional.

wow - spot on. It shocked me the minute it came out of her mouth. Who says things like that?

Apparently she's smarter than her own insurance expert too🤣

Yeah, that shows what an egomaniac narcissist she is - obviously it was Dan who was successful and brought the money in while she struggled to make money with her awful books, but of course, it's all due to her. 🙈🤮

She might actually have been correct on the insurance detail (but I’m not sure exactly what pros was asking) but she had no hesitation in making her expert witness wrong.

Dan seems like an amazing human being. What he saw in this Benjamin Franklin impersonator is a bigger mystery than Bigfoot. Maybe she reminded him of a mushroom?

@@tranquilrabies 😂She also resembles Archie Bunker

@@lisayork2624Yes! And she has the same amount of self-awareness (none)!

@@lisayork2624lmaoooo

Yeah, that's what i was thinking...

You just answered your own question. Narcissists are by nature grandiose and manipulative, just look at Anthony Todt. These people don't show their true colors openly. In Nancy's case, she's used to steamrolling other people in conversation. No one has a chance of digesting her lies, let alone call her out on them, before she's already gone on to the next rambling story. She counts on that. That's why it was a good strategy to let her ramble on the witness stand for hours. If you let a narcissist like Nancy talk long enough, they will inevitably contradict herself. She tells so many lies that she can't possibly track them all, yet can't fall back on her usual tricks to hand wave away her inconsistencies.

Nancy said that she’s a chatter. A lying one at that.

I guess Dan woulda REALLY scared you, then!

And that DEAD expression after she’s done cackling. She’s utterly creepy.

​@@heathernikki5734 Ugh, that cackle, I just can't with her. I have never heard a human being squawk like a cockatoo, but here we are.

And say "ya know". She says "ya know" every 5 words and it's driving me nuts! But the lisp is worse..... "yeash, and I shaid to shomeone that Dan'sh inshurance washn't...." ARRRRGH 😡

It's the mmhnms that make me poke out my minds eye

Haha ha YUM!!

Do you mean washyoursister sauce or wroysistersheree sauce? Both heard??

@@marionowens8852😂

@@marionowens8852 My family preferred "whats.dis.here.sauce?

😰 I know a few monsters. She sure spent a lot of his money on retreats and writers-groups meetings. Sylvia Beach's Hemingway room isn't cheap. I live not far away. And, the 'hole in the wall' she talked about is ARR place with the best food in the PNW and quite expensive, especially with wine. Yes, he would have loved it. So, that seemed genuine. But, free for all with money, which she admits.

>He married a monster shortly before she killed him for some life insurance money

Research my foot! Why put it in storage then? This whole story sounds made up to me. She claims she had shared the storyline with her writer friends but none of them discussed it on the stand so we only have her word for it.

She killed him for the SS money too. I would guess that’s at least $1k per month ‘til she dies. She might even be collecting it now.

Great to know!

I literally rolled my eyes when she did that. My god, how artificial can she be? "And Dan wasn't there.... waitaminnit... And that's when I knew, waitaminnit... when I knew **pause for dramatic effect** when I knew...I knew Dan was DEAD!!" 🤦🏼‍♀️

The vehicle was identified by a mark on the back passenger side rear panel. It's still 4 years later and the vehicle has still not been identified by registration, Vin number nothing. They also cant definitively say Nancy was driving. The Van arrived before Dan even did so she apparently layed in wait for him. But he was shot in the back. Thats not in and out quickly.

@@sandranash3944 lol that is absolutely her and she even testified it was her. You honestly believe she is innocent?

Even Nancy admitted that was her in those grainy videos… wearing her black nightshirt with the white lace. I could definitely tell it was her. The prosecutor pulled it all together perfectly with the timing and the videos in his closing argument.

They make no sense for retirement income, whatsoever.

@@tourdedogue4952 They also make no sense if they will result in losing your home.

@@tourdedogue4952 exactly. Spending 1k a month in life insurance policies. Pay off your mortgage or put it into 401k account.

She use to do policy . So she knows the loop holes an what u can add

She was gaming the system. She lied to the insurance companies about the policies she already had on Dan. They would never have let her insure him for as much as she did.

That's the only reason she is upset he's gone, because now she has no house slave to wait on her hand and foot. Nancy claimed credit for everything, but Dan was the only one doing anything. He cooked, he cleaned, he walked the dogs, he did it all, while she did nothing but sit in bed all day.

@369blueneptune did you catch the part where NB said she had a plan? To go to bed cover her head and wake up in 2050. I think her plan is going to be reality. I actually laughed at that. What a horrible women she is. I wish someone would post a 2023 update on her in prison or do an interview.

@@markschindler172 It would be be great if someone would do an interview with her. With her ego, you know she would jump at the chance.

I thought they were deliberately awful.

Well, I've hunted for mushrooms on a trail leading to the beach many times, as a good friend taught me where to find them. I was out on the Jetty trails with my dogs through mushroom trails and, I got freaked out. Weird men lurking just beyond the next tree. So, somebody talked me into buying a gun and thought I'd strap it to my ankle, outside of it, which is legal in Oregon. And, like Dan, there's no way I was going to do it out mushroom picking and running dogs in the gentle coastal woods.

Same here. I was keeping doubt alive, until today. No doubt now.

@@tourdedogue4952 She said she bought the particular model as it was "better suited for a woman". So, it was not for Dan after all ;)

So the gun was in storage after the fact, after the house was cleaned out, after Dan was dead. He no longer needed protection and if my spouse was shot dead. Id remove all guns from my house. Researching and writting a book would be the last thing on my mind. So the gun being in storage means shit and if she had 25/30 people helping clean out the house chances are the gun and parts were in the house at that time. Its not out of the realm of possibility that someone with no idea about guns could have thrown it in the rubbish, which is more likely than being stolen.

@@sandranash3944 No, I don't think that's it. The gun was in her bedroom on a shelf and she freely offered it to the detectives who drove both her and her van home. (that's how they got the pictures that the detectives on scene noticed it was her van). When they did a search of her storage pod, they found the Ghost Gun, tucking the bottom of a box filled with scarves and purses. The slide & barrel she purchased on eBay was never found. The Willamette River is a few blocks away from that area, so - well, simple enough.

For me it's the camera footage of her practically stalking OCI in her car the hour leading up to the murder, and then making a beeline back to her house right after the murder was committed. The closing argument by the prosecutor did a great job of laying all of the facts out and showing the timeline of events the morning of the murder.

​@@WobblesandBean Yes, that circling, circling of oci looks so predatory.

1:21 makes me physically ill. I truly can't stand this woman.

Yes

Exactly.

They are psychopaths. No feelings or caring for anyone but themselves.

I'll never understand. My guy is the love of my life, I can't imagine hurting him even by accident, let alone ending his life. I'd rather die first than he involved in his death in any way.

😅 yes, and it was skimmed right over! What the heck?

😅 Can't you just picture her putting those on Dan for some "sexy time"?

And pay for it

Yes...along with emphasizing multiple pairs.....ewwww Lol and her writer friend suddenly spurting out "post menopausal sex." Disturbing.

​@@luckewoman0348between this and learning that she carried money in her bra...🤮🤢