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Naomi Klein and Vincent Bevins in Conversation 

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Join us for a conversation between Vincent Bevins and Naomi Klein on what their recent books-"If We Burn" and "Doppelganger"-can teach us about our political moment.
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Over the course of the past ten years mass protests of unprecedented scale swept across the entire globe. From the revolutions in Egypt and Tunisia, to the eruption of rebellions in the US in response to the police murder of George Floyd, this decade of struggle has seen some of the largest protests in history. Yet, in many cases, these struggles not only failed to achieve all of their goals, but were somehow mutated and warped into their opposites.
As the crises that spurred these movements into existence continue to rage, the global right has taken advantage of the collective sense of disorientation and vertigo with a strategy of diagonalism to push their regressive policies and twisted perspectives. Digitally amplified conspiracy theories are peddled as explanations for capitalism’s morbid symptoms, as the left struggles to organize an effective response. What lessons can we learn from the wave of struggles in the recent past? How should we understand the new paranoid right and their surreal mirror world? And, most importantly, how do chart a path out of the darkness?
Vincent Bevins and Naomi Klein take up exactly these questions in their recent books, "If We Burn" and "Doppelganger" respectively.
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Speakers:
Vincent Bevins is an award-winning journalist. He reported for the Financial Times in London, then served as the Brazil correspondent for the Los Angeles Times before covering Southeast Asia for the Washington Post.His first book, The Jakarta Method, was named one of the best books of 2020 by NPR, GQ, the Financial Times, and CounterPunch, and has been translated into fifteen languages. Vincent lives in São Paulo.
Naomi Klein is an award-winning journalist, columnist, and international bestselling author of eight books including No Logo, The Shock Doctrine, This Changes Everything, No Is Not Enough and On Fire, which have been translated into over thirty-five languages. In 2018, she was named the inaugural Gloria Steinem Endowed Chair in Media, Culture and Feminist Studies at Rutgers University, and is now Honorary Professor of Media and Climate at Rutgers. In September 2021, she joined the University of British Columbia as UBC Professor of Climate Justice and is the founding co-director of the UBC Centre for Climate Justice.
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Комментарии : 18   
@mcgoombs
@mcgoombs 4 месяца назад
If we burn is such an important book, I’ve given a hard cover copy to every activist I know since it came out. Doppelgänger is next on my list
@carolesaldanha8806
@carolesaldanha8806 9 месяцев назад
What a wonderful podcast. Thoroughly enjoyed your points of view Naomi and Vincent.
@AudioPervert1
@AudioPervert1 5 месяцев назад
Naomi Klein is a super clever lady. While she blames capitalism and mega corporations for the ruin of society, she totally ignores the Global Green Scare, totally ignores the biophysical limits of the earth, the population crisis and the overall impact of tyrannical technologies. Pathetic this first-world white distress in essence. Naomi Klein also enjoys wide array of institutional endowments and sells lots of books, for hapless denizens of the same society she pertains to.
@SampaJasli
@SampaJasli 7 месяцев назад
two great minds fighting the good fight
@AudioPervert1
@AudioPervert1 5 месяцев назад
Naomi Klein is a super clever lady. While she blames capitalism and mega corporations for the ruin of society, she totally ignores the Global Green Scare, totally ignores the biophysical limits of the earth, the population crisis and the overall impact of tyrannical technologies. Pathetic this first-world white distress in essence. Naomi Klein also enjoys wide array of institutional endowments and sells lots of books, for hapless denizens of the same society she pertains to.
@lumpoflabor
@lumpoflabor 9 месяцев назад
At 1:41 Naomi Klein argues for a real left program that is "actually redistributive." Capitalism is already "redistributive." That is its essence. So having a real left program that is actually redistributive proposes a double redistribution -- a "doppelganger" of capitalism, if you will pardon the expression. What does capitalism redistribute? Disposable time that has been appropriated by capital in the form of surplus labor and realized in the form of surplus value. How should the left respond to this redistribution of disposable time? By taking back disposble time through the reduction and limitation of working time. It doesn't even have to all happen at once. The movement for the 10-hour day, the 8-hour day and the five-day workweek made great inroads into the power of capital. In the U.S. big capital has resisted the movement for shorter working time tooth and claw. Wonder why? Because the power of capital is contained in the ;disposable hours of work that it appropriates from labor. So calling for "redistribution" of this power is counterproductive. Karl Marx figured all this out a century and a half ago but it got distorted through the incomprehensions and agendas of his followers and sometimes even through his own tactical alliances.
@cb7324
@cb7324 9 месяцев назад
Great conversation. Thanks to Haymarket! @lumpoflabor - Clever irony you found with "actually." Request: Please provide practical example for "Disposable time that has been appropriated by capital in the form of surplus labor and realized in the form of surplus value." Thanks so much!
@lumpoflabor
@lumpoflabor 9 месяцев назад
@@cb7324 Thanks for your response, cb! The reference is to a section in Marx's Grundrisse where he followed closely the argument of an 1821 pamphlet, "The Source and Remedy of the National Difficulties," but gave a surprising new twist to the concept of "disposable time" that he quoted from the pamphlet. This all becomes so confounded complicated but the short version is that Marx became convinced that the road to freedom led through the reduction of working time. I try to unpack some of Marx's reasoning in a recent blog post, "Seeing the frowns on the jugglers and the clowns" econospeak.blogspot.com/2023/12/seeing-frowns-on-jugglers-and-clowns.html, but I have also been working through it in two journal articles and in a book proposal that is currently under review.
@cb7324
@cb7324 9 месяцев назад
@@lumpoflabor Thank you for responding. I'm not surprised you're a writer. You certainly write well. (I edit) I know you'll succeed with your projects! Yes, to think that before the industrial revolution families spent so much more time together, telling their stories, weaving their crafts and tilling their soil, bartering with their communities, building relationships.
@AudioPervert1
@AudioPervert1 5 месяцев назад
Naomi Klein is a super clever lady. While she blames capitalism and mega corporations for the ruin of society, she totally ignores the Global Green Scare, totally ignores the biophysical limits of the earth, the population crisis and the overall impact of tyrannical technologies. Pathetic this first-world white distress in essence. Naomi Klein also enjoys wide array of institutional endowments and sells lots of books, for hapless denizens of the same society she pertains to.
@user-tf6cg6ry4e
@user-tf6cg6ry4e 5 месяцев назад
For Naomi Klein. I'm a great fan of yours but Cannot understand why you never fully deal, in depth, with the financial side of neoliberalism (The influence of Ayn Rand, the importance of the Powell Memorandum, The abrogation of the Glass-Steagal act, Alan Greenspan...). I continually educate people I run into, here in Belgium, where I live. But I think you could do it better.
@danodonnell9325
@danodonnell9325 6 месяцев назад
The audio here is so distorted. Gosh, turn down your record levels. Sad that poor recording makes good content almost unlistenable. And the the author of "If We burn" sounds like he's in an echoe chamber with a microphone 3 or 4 feet away from his mouth. Get some technical help and guidance by a skilled audio recordist to improve your program. Good luck! For people like hearing problems like me, this is unintelligible. But if you'd used your microphones properly and set recording levels correctly, it could have been great.
@JanetteHeffernan
@JanetteHeffernan 4 месяца назад
I did not have a problem with this audio. Not all of us have access professional audio technicians. You admit you have hearing problems so why not turn on the subtitles which are provided for this disability. The discussion was grea.
@mcgoombs
@mcgoombs 4 месяца назад
Sounds fine to me
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