Narrated D&D Story: Cleric Wants To Axe My Warforged Fighter Cause “Its Robot & Its Against Rules” 

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"You can't put your sci-fi crap into a fantasy setting!" ... You're basically saying they can't put their imagination in your imagination.

If someone demanded I change my character, I would look them dead in the eye, and say "I'll make you a deal, you also have to reroll your character" Then I would change literally everything about my character except the thing that they hate, just to spite them.

Warforged: Is an official race in DnD Gabriel: Writes angry letters to Wizards of The Coast complaining about how they are ruining the game.

I fail to see why robots would be disallowed in a fantasy game. You don't need computers to make a "robot," things similar, like golems, are basically identical.

As a long time Eberron fan, I stand against anti-Warforged discrimination!

I’ve never tried playing a warforged, but when I see one in game, my Dwarf Blacksmith (Fighter) is always impressed by Warforged!

Easily angered guy who doesn’t want sci-fi, is animated as Spock from Star Trek.

They realize a Warforged is an official race, right?

Alternate title: "Unimaginative Cleric Can't Handle Other's Creativity."

Warforged aren’t robots, if anything they’re magically sentient metal golems. This Gabriel fellow sounds like an obtuse arse. Edit: RIP my inbox. Apparently they can also be made of wood or stone. My bad. Also, it just occured to me Gabe ignored the numerous other fantasy settings that use golems, even robots. Hello Elder Scrolls.

Like, I can totally believe a *character* being like "Nah, fam, I'm not going to heal a Warforged since it's unnatural." But the cleric's player was being completely unreasonable. Maybe it should have been explained to him that Warforged *are* "Real D&D", just from a specific one of the many settings D&D houses under its ruleset.

"Sci-fi" huh. Ok, lets talk real D&D. Monsters made of magic exist. Elementals, creatures made of elements exist. Creatures without actual organs exist. MODRONS are a creature which are essentially clockwork monstrosities exist. Ever hear of the Modron March campaign? Now lets talk Warforged, which are akin to Golems, which very heavily exist in fantasy settings. Instead of being made from Mud or rock, they are crafted with materials ranging from wood to metal, and are created as tools for war. Forged for war some would say. Warforged gained sentience and began having autonomy. To call them Sci-fi, is very ignorant as they still apply to MANY fantasy tropes. calling them "Robots" would be an unnatural thing to say. Automaton maybe, but not robot. If I was to call nonsense on anything, it would have been the name, but thats mostly preferance, as Warforged are not made with names or serial numbers, they are just made, and after they gained sentience and autonomy they usually end up making up their names with some form of loose concept of naming schemes. hence why you end up with many warforged name after items, such as "Rock" "Spoon" "Chair" "Buckets" "House" and one I always found funny "Latrine" whom was nicknamed later as Shit-house the Unbroken Speaking more on fantasy, and again personal thoughts, One of my favorite things to do in fantasy settings is to TAKE Sci-fi elements, characters etc and "downgrade" their features to fit. and this works in so many ways, such as taking Darth Vader and turning him into a literal Dark Knight with magic. Take Boba Fett and give him a crossbow instead of a blaster. Its very easy to do, and I encourage such designs

“Reeeee warforged iz robot and sci-fi!!!” My character: “Hold my motor oil”

I probably would have tried to find every reference I could to artificial beings from older stories, especially myths and legends. The Golem of Prague, Talos and the other automatons made by Hephaestus, Pinnochio... Then I'd send it to him as a document with something to the effect of "there, educate yourself".

1.) Warforged are as much a "robot" as Pinocchio....a fairytale written 10 years before Dracula. 2.) If you want your character to play as a racist POS that's fine as long as it's okay with the DM AND the table (THE WHOLE TABLE), but you don't get to dictate someone else's character. Good on the DM for taking charge.

I’m early, so here’s a recipe for banana bread I found online: INGREDIENTS • 2 to 3 very ripe bananas, peeled (about 1 1/4 to 1 1/2 cups mashed) • 1/3 cup melted butter, unsalted or salted • 1 teaspoon baking soda • Pinch of salt • 3/4 cup sugar (1/2 cup if you would like it less sweet, 1 cup if more sweet) • 1 large egg, beaten • 1 teaspoon vanilla extract • 1 1/2 cups of all-purpose flour METHOD 1 Preheat the oven to 350°F (175°C), and butter a 4x8-inch loaf pan. 2 In a mixing bowl, mash the ripe bananas with a fork until completely smooth. Stir the melted butter into the mashed bananas. 3 Mix in the baking soda and salt. Stir in the sugar, beaten egg, and vanilla extract. Mix in the flour. 4 Pour the batter into your prepared loaf pan. Bake for 50 minutes to 1 hour at 350°F (175°C), or until a tester inserted into the center comes out clean. 5 Remove from oven and let cool in the pan for a few minutes. Then remove the banana bread from the pan and let cool completely before serving. Slice and serve. (A bread knife helps to make slices that aren't crumbly.)

The one dislike is probably from Gabriel, lmao.

7:31 *Looks at my copy of Expedition to the Barrier Peaks, about players exploring a crashed flying saucer filled with malfunctioning robots and escaped alien specimens, originally printed in 1976 and written by E Gary Gygax himself* "And what, pray tell, is 'Real' D&D? Or 'Real' fantasy, for that matter?"

The DM should have shoved the Eberon book in that player's face and said: "Read this. This is part of D&D. You don't like it, then you are no longer welcome at my table."

Just think of Warforged as a magic suit of armour full of wood.

"You can't put your scifi crap in a fantasy setting!" *Hands Gabriel a pillow.* "What's this for?" *For you to bite, because it's going in dry.*

I don't think this dude knows that warforged aren't homebrew.

This really isn't as bad as the time I play as a "tiefling warlock" who's acts like he's a Vulcan Starfleet officer and every time he fires off eldritch blast he would make phasor sounds. Pew pew pew.

This is gonna be good

Warforged have been my favorite race since 3.5. I was ecstatic when they finally and officially came to 5e. I like having just a sprinkle of sci-fi in my fantasy, and i really like not needing to eat, sleep, or breathe. So mine normally have names like his, with me making characters that have a specific function followed by a number and then abbreviated. Like Assault Robot model 15 (AR-15).

What would you have done if another player tried to get you to retire or change your character?

Warforged lives matter too!

Time since Video was posted: 5mins Video length: 9mins People: still making jokes about the video

I got a warforged character in the works for a Star Wars Pathfinder-esque game I hope to be apart of. A B2 Super Battle Droid with a Kyber Crystal power core that houses a Jedi Padawan's soul after he was killed during Order 66.

This reminds me a bit of one of my games I've played in but not to the extreme that cleric man was. I was in the position of the Cleric but I had no problem of the player who played the Warforged. It is just that in session 0, we were told Warforged in this setting are a bit more robotic if only in the terms of where they have to obey orders, but there are Warforged out there who become "sentient" and whatnot. Warforged Player wants to obviously play a Warforged, DM is cool with it, table is cool with it, player was told though he'd have to keep his sentience secret otherwise he'd be under risk of being "fixed" pretty much turned into a robot without a mind. Throughout the entire campaign, the Warforged Player despite getting arrested for sentience, we saving his butt out of jail, out of court, etc etc, still went on and about proving he was sentient. We told him in character and out to just cool it. Player himself saying his warforged is like a child will do what he is told. I as a detailed note taker even with things not involving me, pasted all the times he did not listen to the party despite being told. In all honesty, I think the DM didn't even care about his own world setting anymore at that point, since the player cheated death for the entire campaign till the final battle where he got paralyzed via hold person, and then turned to dust via Disintegrate. Both my characters didn't like the Warforged, first one due to how the fact the Warforged acted a bit psychotic towards killing humanoids and other bipedal creatures that weren't natural animals. To where that character actually literally stopped healing him if he got injured or went down since started seeing him as a threat to society(he threatened to peel off flesh from some NPCs, how this didn't get him just killed on the spot made me question lots of things). To where I just did a sacrifice play with that character to take out the enemy and himself so I could just start fresh with a different character with no biases(I leave personal things off the table when playing so fresh character, fresh slate), and instantly the first thing Warforged told new character who is pretty neutral to everything, "If you betray us, I will peel your face off" My new Wizard just laughed and said "Whatever." Till learning the Warforged was relatively unstable and then he too eventually saw the Warforged as a threat to be dealt with when the campaign ended. Ironically, my Wizard was the one to avenge the Warforged, just shouting at the enemy Wizard "He was my problem to deal with and I was going to dust him in a duel" and proceeded to just nuke the enemy wizard.

Gabriel: We're here to play real D&D. Get this Warforged out of here. Real D&D: Has Warforged as a playable race. Gabriel: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that.

How do you break the rules of fantasy? Its fantasy...

In a 4th Edition Eberron game I played a Warforged Battlemind (psionic Defender/tank class) named Breaker. He was a late model 'Psiforged' created with embedded psionic crystals, a heavy shock trooper intended to disrupt enemy formations. I gave him the Mage Hunter background explained as him having been specially trained to identify, prioritize, and neutralize arcane threats on the battlefield. I admit I played him with the Autobots firmly in mind. I honestly think Transformers are not a bad concept to consider when thinking about Warforged - Transformers are not simply 'robots' but are robotic alien lifeforms. Similarly Warforged are not simply 'robots' but are construct lifeforms created by magic and artifice. Breaker's intro to the game was walking out of the ocean in a port town, after his mercenary troop's transport ship was sunk by a sea monster mid-voyage and he spent weeks walking along the sea floor to reach land. One of my favorite characters ever. Gabriel can get wrecked.

Honestly, the other remaining characters should have turned on and killed Gabriel’s, stating that they couldn’t trust him not to betray them and how he was already a traitor to the party

"This guy" would have a conniption fit if he was at my table with one of my players in our last campaign. He started out as a Constructed Pugilist Brawler. Which meant he could have a construct limb that replaced one of his arms. However, his initial concept was that one of his legs was a construct limb instead. But RAW meant that his construct limb had to be an arm, However, I did not want to limit him. So I said that he could start the campaign with a clockwork prosthesis that replaced his leg. We worked it into his backstory, and he was essentially 25% construct at the start of the game. By the end of the campaign, he was known as the Crimson Construct since he was effectively a high fantasy version of Robocop who had a wyvern mount. He had been killed late into the campaign and was out back together with more construct parts and a Raise Dead spell.

As someone whose longest running character is a warforged artificer disguised as an old man... What kind of rock do you have to live under to not know what a warforged is?!?

When the artificer shows up with a golem army at the clutch moment, I am so playing Droid Army March.

Now I want to run an Expedition to Barrier Peaks game with a party made up of Warforged. Just to see how they interact with the robots.

Sci-fi in a fantasy game? Wow, sounds like Gabriel has never heard of automatons. Or the various stories where they showed up in Greek myths...you know, the ones where you have Gods and magic? Yeesh... As for what would I do if someone tried to force me to retire my character? I wouldn't listen, if the DM was okay with what I presented it's none their darn business. Some dunderhead in one group I was in tried to do the same, he backed off when I told him I'm five steps away from the paper shredder and that I have no qualms in throwing his sheet in there.

Player: animated metal warriors are totally non-fantasy and are too futuristic Ancient Greeks: ....no no it’s fine we know where we’re not welcomed

I ASK.... NO... I *DEMAND* TO KNOW WHAT HAPPENED IN THE SEQUEL

As soon as the cleric player started acting up like that, it should've been dealt with outside of the game. Don't try to solve (or ignore in this case) real world issues in-game

How would I handle it? "Hey, quick question. Do you know where the door is? Feel free to use it."

if i was the dm he would've been gone as soon as he requested another player be kicked out for a bullshit reason. thats only a sign of things to come and hes already shown his true colors.

hmm Sci-Fi. if you look up on D&D lore we even have space ships that can sail in the ether from realm to realm :D but they use magic to work, or psychic powers in the case of the illithids.

"It's too scifi for my fantasy game!" Dude, just because the Warforged exists in your game doesn't mean it's becoming Star Wars. And even if it was, it's Star Wars. Don't limit the creativity, embrace it.

I like how your video intro is all epic and borderline menacing, but then your voice is so inviting and jolly

In the words of Kibo, "How Robophobic!"

Had a player like this one time. I was playing in a horror custom setting and basically we were all to roll up monsters of one flavor or another but were either on a path of redemption or were just monstrous but not evil. Only exception was our friend who played the cleric "Cavil the Redeemer"- ostensibly the leader who was leading these monsters on righteous quests. The monsters included a Gnoll Barbarian who had sworn to never "Eat meat that thinks"/no more cannibalism, a vampire who had gotten his soul forced back onto him (the problem guy with who blatantly ripped off Angel), and my character, a Changling Ozodrin (a class we found on the community site that basically makes you into an eldritch horror with no true set form. You over time can reallocate mutation points to give yourself many different natural weapon and tools.) Long and short of it, the Angel wannabe was being a bit of a jerk to everyone else in the group on the reg, and especially hated my character b/c it's not a classic monster or whatever. Apparently he never read Lovecraft. Anyhow, it was perfectly acceptable for us to in-character dislike each other- added a fun exasperated parent aspect to "The Redeemer"'s player who rolled with it and played it up well. But the Angel wannabe decided, after my character had been pretty badly wounded and it was just the two of us as the Redeemer and Gnoll went ahead to get the child oracle to safety, to finish my character off. He tried to initiate a grapple and try to energy drain/feed on me. The other players balked at this but I quickly stopped them and told them we're playing this out in character. I even added "If I die, I can roll up an undead bone construct or a lich or something fun too." - purely to just put the Wannabe at his ease. He drained two levels from me, and then it came to my turn. My character erupted into a mass of clawed tentacles, a slavering maw and on the order of a dozen new eyes. The grapple quickly turned around, and the Angel Wannabe was getting desperate to get his precious character out of my reach. But the longer the fight lasted, the more mutation points I allocated to tentacles and grapple augmentations. He threw his hands up and quit the campaign and the group in a huff when his character was dead and devoured by the Eldritch Nightmare. The funny thing is my character's personality was not too different from Chappy from the movie Chappy- innocent and ultimately unaware of whatever evil had spawned him. So we got to have a really fun role playing session where the party discussed with him why the Vamp, who in-character he had thought his friend, would try to kill him. fun times

Interesting story

I played a campaign alongside a Warforged wizard in Pathfinder. For being a metal (and wood) man, he was the life of the party.

I understand a cleric not wanting to heal a Warforged. Clerics protect life usually, and they could see Warforged as some "horrific mockery of life" and not want to heal them, but blatantly trying to have another player removed from the game for picking a legitimate playable race? That's not ok

I like to think that as long as the player isn’t one of the many categories of “that guy” or at least not too much, any character can work

"We were suppose to play D&D, not this sci-fi crap!" Golems everywhere: Am I a joke to you?

My party has a Warforged Rogue and it’s a blast! He doesn’t say much, stealths at every moment and gets away with all sorts of nonsense.

This it why I like to have information handy. It shuts up people like that guy. Also if someone told me to make another character just because they don't like it. I'd just leave if it got to much, or let the DM deal with him like this DM did.

I gotta say,I'm positively astounded at the patience the people in these stories have. Now,don't get me wrong,I consider myself a fairly patient person,but if you're gonna be passive-aggressive,condescending,and rude as all *hell* to me for no clear reason,I'll bring the problem to center stage,as I was taught to when I was younger,and put the issue to bed,one way,or another. What would you do?

Actually given the Eberron setting, Warforged are very SciFi, because the entire setting is heavily Science Fantasy, Lightning powered Trains, Elemental powered Space Ships that look like Naval Cutters.

As someone who enjoys a mideveil/sci-fi look, warforged is one of my favorite races, beside V. human. Uts just so fun to combo with everything, especially if you play a caster and convince the dm to let you roleplay it as the warforged's mechanical bits

It’s never good when someone asks to speak to you in private

Warforged are magically sentient golems/constructs. Which are pretty much possible for the dnd world, a world that is chock full of magic and constructs/golems. Christ sakes they got a sentient, worlds conquering, hivemind, eldritch alien race that is literally one of the most staple enemies in the DnD games: Mindflayers.

Gabe sounds like a frequent tendie muncher who is a real "Nice guy"

If I was there I would have bought an Eberron book turned it to the page on Warforged and shoved it in his face and said 'Here read it moron!'

Don't like bullies. We're it me, I would fight back and put his little anger session down the moment he glared at me.

I once had a player in a game....well I need to give some background. I was running a pathfinder game, with a custom pantheon I'd been using since third edition. Ahead of time when everyone was making their characters the cleric wanted to be a cleric of Corellon Lartheon. He was told "This isn't Greyhawk but you can pick either this war deity or be a cleric of a church that worships all the good gods." He became a Great Church cleric, he then started playing his character as insane and started attacking the party because his character worshiped and "got power" from Corellon Lartheon and we were telling him he wasn't. Needless to say we dropped him from the group.

If someone besides the DM demanded I changed my character I would reach into my vault of meme characters and just make his character's life a living hell.

I've seen this happen to players using a psionic class a bunch of times. The argument "it's to science fiction for D&D" came up a lot. The DM wouldn't care and give the go ahead to play the class and some other player would lose their mind over it. Mostly it was older players who did this but sometimes it was a young one who was taught it by their old group.

If someone demanded i change my character i would say "YOU DON'T CONTROL ME".

Gabriel: apparently hates sci-fi crap Also Gabriel: character looks exactly like a Star Fleet member

Gabriel is a One-True-Wayist wangrod.

Imagine good ol' Gabe stumbling into a portal to Mechanus. Dude would get 50d10 mental breakdown damage.

I have actually been accused of doing this on one occasion. We were prepping for an all warforged one shot. We all agree to play regular warforged except for this one player who just has to play a warforged charger. I point out that the charger has an ECL of +4 the one shoy was level 5 another player pointed out the 4 racial HD which meant in order for a warforged charger not completely over power the party. We would havd to be level 8. I warned the player that the DM would likely not allow it. The player made a comment about me trying to get this nixed because I didn't like it. Never mind more than one player complained about the power gap. Finally the DM showed up in chat and made an offical ruling. He picked a warforges acout because he just had to be different from thr rest of thr group.

"This one does not understand the hate towards this one's kind. We are alive just like any other being. It is confused, to say the least." Clatter, The Warforged Druid

Just wait until he finds out what the Construct monster type means.

Normal fleshbag cleric: i sleep Adeptus Mechanicus Tech Priest: *FLESH IS WEAK. THE MACHINE IS IMMORTAL*

I'm getting serious Stellaris vibes from this title... I won't lie, I have been on the cleric side before... THERE IS ONE THING WORST THEN A FILTHY XENO AND THAT IS A FILTHY EMPTY HUSKS OF THE MECHANICALS! GLORY TO ZARQLAN!!!

During one of my few DMing experiences I was doing a homebrew sea adventure and I told the group basic 3.0/3.5 races. What I intended was PHB races but a good friend rolled up a Warforged. Rather than making it a thing I rolled with it and gave him some cork "armour" (a life jacket to keep him from sinking if washed overboard

Guess Cleric player never heard of Eberron. It does talk about how Warforged were made. Besides, if one was to do some research, some of the earlier editions do state that there was nothing wrong with making robots.

I could be very wrong.. But this sounds like it takes place outside of the Eberron setting.. I had no idea you could do that. Sure I know one can do anything so long as the DM 'okays' it, but I'm glad that it's allowed. It removes some boundaries I had set for myself when making characters.

Warforged are magical metal golems not robots.

I had a co-player who had a Tiefling Warlock who wanted to use his blood for contractual purposes, but not as a facade or as a ruse, but rather as an actual power to magically force those who signed his contracts into his control. It really didn't seemed harmful at most, but it progressed into a mix of meta-gaming and role-play, that was really stressing.

Let's use our imagination and have fun! NO NOT LIKE THAT!

Warforged are magitech, so like sci-fi but something that the D&D world could logically make, it would be like saying every construct is a robot or every undead is a zombie when that just isn't true, as a matter of fact there are no restrictions on what class a warforged can be, so technically a warforged could not only be a cleric or paladin, but a sorcerer in addition to classes that don't use divine power or magic.

That must hurt to have your character utterly destroyed

Someone needs to run "Gabriel" through the 5e update of Expedition to the Barrier Peaks (For those of you unfamiliar, it's a first edition module where the party explores what ends up being a crashed spaceship). Science Fiction has been part of the DNA of the game for a very long time

Notes from a NG human idiot; Greetings from lovely Restenford(had a great day visiting an old friend, so we're doing great here....)! Sadly, sometimes it seems like there's more people like Gabriel out in the world than Edward(i refuse to comment on the current Political climate in the Kingdom, but you can get the idea). That being said, "Sci-Fi" does not, in-point-of-Fact, equate "Non-Fantasy". I personally think our overtly Opinionated Clergyman was just looking for an excuse to "throw his weight around". This time it backfired, unlike the other times he did. This whole situation reminds me of an old saying that goes "Before you throw stones, check to see if you live in a Glass house."..... May your pantheon ever favor you(especially in these trying times), Baron Trevelyan of Restenford

Ever since I learned of war forged I’ve loved them since my introduction with Ferox the living Chaos. Or Pherox not sure how to spell his name. He’s basically crazy. He is a war forged who resides in his bunker of insanity to keep control ever while trying to save nature, tragically he has already failed his current endeavor, this is VERY abridged as I don’t think I know too much about FLC yet. He is Chaos.

"He seemed shy at first..." Read to me as, this guy just didn't like OP.

Had a similar thing happen where 2 of my players got really mad at me because in the game I was running, they were chasing a dimension hopping entity and they didn't like going to a space war dimension, but they failed to mention any of that dislike until they got their boyfriend to threaten me in discord for "ruining D&D" a while latter. Advice to players, if you don't like what a DM does, just tell them instead of trying to ruin there game later.

o no this cant end well

This story would've been the perfect time to say: *"Bite my shiney metal ass."*

When I hear about a person like this, I just imagine the rant gradually devolving into angry Donald Duck noises. Makes things a little more amusing.

Most humiliating misunderstanding in my group: I was playing a Warlock who had a close encounter with a displacer beast when she was younger that left her with scars all over her body. When I was recounting the story in-character to another party member, they interrupted and asked "Wait, so it was basically tentacle porn?" Now I can't have any kind of discussion about my characters past without my group bringing up that stupid question and poking fun at me for it.

In all honesty I don't really see Warforged as robots I just see them as really advanced golems Is that odd?

Honestly, warforged is my go to race in DND. Mostly because it gives me the most amount of freedom on what to design. I once made a pirate warforged with an anchor for an arm.

Warforged is not sci-fi? Then why is Spock looking all snooty in the foreground?

Warforged are essentially intelligent golems. While they aren't as durable (Well, most of the time), they are capable of independent thought and actions. Making them excellent soldiers (Hence Warforged), as they never hunger, tire, and can relentlessly go to war. Rather than a simple golem that can only follow simple commands, a warforged is capable of complex thought, strategy, and reasoning. While they do stand out in other settings, they can usually just be explained as golems. Even in Faerun, I played a Warforged that was essentially a modified Shield Guardian from ancient times. So no idea why 'robot' was the primary example, as Warforged lack gears and computer systems of a robot. They're wood and metal, powered by essentially a soul gem.

How is everyone doing today

This guy would have a huge struggle comprehending the existence of Mechanus.