Imagine being sakura, getting put on a team with prodigies and spending ur formative years being useless, then after working your ass off for years and achieving feats only two others have ever managed (byakuya seal) and finally feeling like youve caught up to those two demigods, only for literal jesus to show up and give them divine powers, rocketing them right past you once again to heights you will never reach. That’s gotta be so frustrating 😭
in my honest opinion sakura was only good in beginning of Shippuden with the fight against sasori after that it fell back to the stupid Sakura trend. i hate Shippuden sakura even more since they made a good set up to make her finally useful and a good character but the second she saw sasuke edge lord her character was back to the shitty sasuke simping
@@zarz3049You stand before Naruto of the noble house uzimake, 4th hokage son, a day 1 jinjuriki to the most powerful of the tailed beasts, the chosen one from the sage toad prophecy, the incarnation of ashura. How was naruto not a prodigy?
I really REALLY agree with Nick about Kabuto getting off so easy, i always thought it was a flaw in the plot how easy it was for everyone to just forgive both Kabuto and Orochimaru for being mass murderers. It really bugs me lol
In their universe, Shinobi murder each other for a living. Even when there aren't any wars, there are still missions where they have to kill people. So I don't think they take murder as seriously as we do
@@marthashepherd935 Sasuke's atonement is more of a self-imposed thing isn't it? Konoha isn't making him do it, it's more like he's trying to prove he has changed.
@@gelatinouscube6268 but even if we are talking about the Naruto universe, Orochimaru and Kabuto experimented with thousands of people, mainly ORPHAN CHILDREN, manipulating them and making them part of sick experiments, in which I'm sure many of them died horribly. Those are crimes that are seen as terrible even within that universe and yet they got no punishment for their actions
I agree with you on Danzo on almost every point but one. He cannot be held solely responsible for Naruto's horrible childhood. Unless he used some sort of all encompassing genjutsu, most of the blame lies on all of the adults of the village. Did none of them have the emotional maturity to think, "Yes, maybe the demon fox that caused us such suffering is now within that child, but, it's a child! It cannot be held responsible for this. That's insane!"
Yeah, I blame the third more for that. Not only did he leave Naruto completely alone he did almost nothing to make his life better. This was the son of the forth that type of thing didn't get hidden without his say so. We saw how konohamaru was treated, why didn't naruto have a private tutor and bodyguard. If he had done that it would have eased the tension with the Huyga clan who wanted more restrictions on him anyway. That would have made it so Tsunade wouldn't have had to fight against them so much to keep him from becoming a prisoner later. And by everyone knowing he was the son of the forth he wouldn't have faced such animosity and it would have been the perfect cover for the reason he got special treatment. Though I'm not 100% sure it had been planned for the forth to be his dad from the start.
One of my favorite fanfics ever also pointed out that Sakura is very noticeably the only member of the original ninja class that doesn’t have a birthright to a clan. She’s the first ninja in her family to our knowledge.
@@notgeorge8387 Maybe you are right (as I don´t know much of Sakura´s parents) but from her generation (Tenten and Lee are older) she and Naruto are the only ones without kekkei genkai - and Naruto has Kurama. Without any +power she still become one of the strongest. That is why I respect her.
There is little or no indication that Sakura's parents were outstanding ninjas. Niether of them appear to be from notable clans with notable ninja fighter or have a powerful secret technique.s They also appear to be a little older than the other former Rookie 9 parents but anyhow the fact is Sakura didn.t have the kind of pedigree (or the chakra levels) that Naruto and Sasuke had which makes her progression as a ninja to where she is now is imo more impressive than her old teammates. @@notgeorge8387
Karin is the one of most tragic Naruto characters ever. - She lost her mom to the Grass village. - Karin was used as a healing sourve throughout her childhood. - Karin was stabbed and betrayed by MS Sasuke to kill Danzō. - Karin got rejected by Sasuke for Sakura.
@@laisphinto6372 well I mean his favorite character is Sasuke, which isn't surprising if you really watch Shippuden sasuke is one of the few best-written characters. and that he downplayed naruto character and everything like he should've written Naruto like Rock Lee, or at least not make it seem like he is weak without Kurama. then the movies are better than the actual show, I may hate Sakura but she can get down in the movies and she was a kid, then we see the side characters more, and they have more building, and better animation, naruto in the blood prison movie was on that kakashi timing talking about"we can't save him" and" save your tears for later" that the naruto is wanted after Jiraiya died.
well I mean his favorite character is Sasuke, which isn't surprising if you really watch Shippuden sasuke is one of the few best-written characters. and that he downplayed Naruto's character and everything like he should've written Naruto like Rock Lee, or at least not make it seem like he is weak without Kurama. then the movies are better than the actual show, I may hate Sakura but she can get down in the movies and she was a kid, then we see the side characters more, and they have more building, and better animation, naruto in the blood prison movie was on that kakashi timing talking about"we can't save him" and" save your tears for later" that the naruto is wanted after Jiraiya died. so it really is not just the women and this and that he doesn't give his side characters in general screen time other than part 1 which most time you see them is filler, and most of the cast is badly written but the villains and cool characters like might gai, rock lee, kakashi, Sasuke, and Neji. like Neji and Rock Lee had so much potential to be on par with Naruto and Sasuke.
@@laisphinto6372the easy answer is so that he can feign immense strength for the women in Naruto only so that when they’re saved by a man it looks that much more impressive for the savior. women are basically just props in Naruto, and its frustrating to see how many women could’ve been strong characters if Kishimoto saw them that way at the time.
For me it's my hatred to studio poirrot for butchering sakura's character. I was more of manga reader, sakura is a lot more mature in the manga rather than in anime
“Nagato’s ideology wasn’t correct” idk man kind of seems like all of the ninja villages banded together to fight an incredibly powerful threat and experienced a lot of shared pain and loss during the 4th shinobi war and through that shared pain and loss peace between the nations was formed. That was kind of nagatos whole plan
Go watch Garas speech, it clears up why Nagatos ideology wasn't correct. In summery basically what united them wasn't really the incredibly powerful threat but rather the pain they shared. There was a correlation definitely but it wasn't the cause, they would be doomed if it weren't for Gara lol
@@thatguy9687 gaaras speech that wouldn’t have happened if they wouldn’t have United to fight the incredibly powerful threat? And pains whole ideology was the world won’t know peace until everyone has shared in the same pain. It’s why he called himself pain and constantly said things like “this world shall know pain” his whole goal was to unite the villages against an all powerful threat and make them experience the pain of loss together so they would come to a greater understanding of each other
yeah, Nagato's plan did have some impact in bringing the ninja villages together through shared pain and loss during the 4th shinobi war. It's a complex situation, bro.
I'm not mad about Sakura failing to kill Sasuke. What i'm mad about is afterwards, during the war arc, she still has feelings for him. Girl, she almost killed you twice, stated he was going to destroy the Leaf and kill the other member of your team. Yes he came to help, but after he stated he was going to kill the Raikage bring forth a revolution, and then knocked you out. HOW OR WHY DO YOU STILL LOVE HIM!?
The biggest problem of Sakura is the Sasuke-kun complex a.k.a what I like to call The "Uchiha Pheromones". Uchihas, specially Sasuke have this passive ability to infatuate any living being with vagina at one kilometre around. And so they can't hurt him and he turns them into housewives with no will of their own. Yeah. Eida's ability is just a weaker version of the *_Uchiha Pheromones Jutsu._*
another problem for Kaguya is the lack of foreshadowing about her. Like if we had any indication she was a thing before she shows up it would have just been so much better.
Just to solidify the Obito - Nagato comparison, right after his Talk no Jutsu session Obito tried sacrificing himself to revive everyone. Had Madara not hijacked it then he would've gone out trying to fix things right then and there like Nagato did. Him lingering around was definitely not a plan of his, but since he was dying anyways he opted to contribute as much as he could towards stopping Madara and Kaguya, and cleaning the mess he helped make.
I think the main points people are missing with the nagato and obito comparisons is the difference in ideological conclusions that they both came to after experiencing the same things. Nagato became more vengeful in his actions as a way to induce a better future for the world obito went towards a path of nihilism and became indefferent or detached as he saw no worth in the future the world had regardless of the systems that were in place. And the only reason why I think both of them were going to do the same thing is because they both had the same person convince them of the same thing after coming from very similar backgrounds
@@DKrel0aded yeah that's fair. My point was, Obito WOULD have died trying to somewhat fix things like Nagato but his plan literally got screwed up by Madara. Him sticking around to die to Kaguya was not the original intent, just him being forced to improvise.
true, their different ideological conclusions definitely shaped their actions. Nagato sought vengeance for a better future, while Obito became detached and nihilistic. It's interesting how their paths diverged despite their similar backgrounds and influence.@@DKrel0aded
This might be an unpopular opinion, but I never actually hated Sakura, I actually really liked her. I was just very disappointed by how underutilized she was. But I don't really blame her for it, I chuck that up to Kishimoto's lack of skills when it comes to portraying female characters.
She was done mostly right. She was a typical self-absorbed female that he probably knew personally in written form. You can tell because there are actual females that way.
I think the best version of her is in the Gaara kidnapping arc in the beginning of Shippuden, but the constant obsession with Sasuke and forgiving him after he tried to kill her is very annoying to a lot of people
If Sakura is on another team, she might not have been pushed to find her own Sannin to train with. She worked up the nerve to ask Tsunade to be her mastwr bc she wanted to be on par w Naruto and Sasuke. Her teammates.
Yup, she'll be an Ino without the fancy clan mind jutsu 😂. I'm still baffled as to why Kakashi and the other sensei thought their genin were ready for the chunin exam
Her being from a normal background besides gifted with perfect chakra control is an interesting concept tbh. Post Land of Waves arc should've put her character development in full swing. That 7 days before chunin exam should've been 70 days and a training arc where Kakashi putting aside that bad memory and focusing more on training them.
@@Joshua_N-ALoW should have been a fucking wake up call for her. In a profession like a ninja, being effectively a non presence in two consecutive fights should've made her seriously question her place on the team, and driven her to seek new techniques to keep her fights in the coming tournament interesting. Instead her and one of the few other girls double ko'd and she did pretty much nothing for the rest of the original series, which was also about as much as she had done before then.
The thing about hated characters is there are multiple categories of hate. 1. Basic hate over cannon actions. This is for Itatchi & Danzo, antagonists being good antagonists who we are meant to dislike as people, but love them for their role in the story. 2. Annoying characters, a characters actions are fictional but our emotional response to them is real. If a character is annoying or causes the audience second hand embarrassment then we hate them for the ultimate sin in literature. (And any similar emotions) 3. Wasted potential, this really should be hate but often the frustration becomes hate. Sakura is "useless" and rarely trains on camera to get better, she also was stated to have lots of potential early in the story, and yet she's always behind the boys and has very few good cannon fights/feats. 4. Active detriments to the story. This is where Kaguya and Black Zetsu are, in theory they are interesting characters, but from a meta level they were retcons undermining the agency of everyone prior in series and only exist to set up Boruto. I would say Kaguya nuked the power scaling but that happened halfway through Shippuden. (If they were planned from the beginning then they could have been foreshadowed, which is one of the most important things for a plot twist)
wasted potential is literally the whole Naruto series and Naruto himself, people say Skaura beat without Kurama which she doesn't which furthers my point that Kishimtoto made Naruto spam karmas charka as much as he spams Reasengan, then Naruto doesn't have flying Raijin, he doesn't any thing other than a different variation of a Rasengan, he doesn't know Uzumaki sealing jutsu, and he doesn't the chakra chains, then the naruto during blood prison is the naruto I wanted see after Jiraiya died when he telling a girl"i can't save him" and "save your tears for later" then he got to see sage mode more which I wish we seen more cause its literally naruto own power that we don't even see anymore.
Kaguya- I feel like Kaguya wouldn’t have been nearly as bad if he were somehow able to rewrite the entire story from the beginning. Make it so that it’s a point for the characters to learn how chakra and the spread of ninshu originated close to the start of the series. So we at least know she even exists and that her existence is important from the jump, despite not appearing till the series climax. Zetsu- shoulda just kept him as the incarnate of Madara’s will. Lol
Kaguya really should of been foreshadowed from the start as some mythical woman that originated the ninja world but most only saw as a myth,the only foreshadowing I can remember is Kimmimaro being from her clan but that can easily forgotten if you aren't paying attention.
@@justinarzola4584 yea that’s pretty much what I’m saying. Imagine they were taught in the academy about this “Rabbit Goddess” being the originator of chakra
Ironically Zetsu and Kaguya were always planned Zetsu who betrayed Madara was planned since the ending of part 1. The chapters 233 and 234 show Sasuke having a similar reaction as Hashirama (chapter 626) at the fact zetsu observe them and Kakashi said in these chapters how similar the story of Naruto and Sasuke is with the story of Hashirama and Madara (which is a direct foreshadowing of the reincarnations of Indra and Ashura manipulated by Zetsu). Kishimoto planned Zetsu twist 8 years before it happened Japanese speaks in 3 ways: Hiragana, Katakana and Kanji. Everyone in Naruto speak in Hiragana except 1 character since his first appearance and it's Black Zetsu. When the divine tree (Kaguya) speak to Madara to absorb her, the dialog was written in Katakana, it's a direct foreshadowing of Black zetsu being his true will. It's for this reason that for us zetsu being the will of Kaguya come out of nowhere when the Japanese are probably aware that this event will happen
90% of sakura's hatred is the Animation Studio's fault. 99% of the things people "list" as the reason why they hate her does not happens in the manga, the whole "she hit naruto all the time" being the most notorious thing, while in the manga she hitted him like 10 times (and he really deserved all of those hits) in the anime she did 100000 times bc that's part of japan's humor. Also the studio or either never animated any of her big moments or if they did they gave it to another character (In the manga sakura ALONE discovers the chunnin examn trap of the 2 teachers acting like students while in the anime they made sasuke said it and made sakura explain it, not after making it look like sakura did no notice before sasuke told her, or the most recent one of sasuke's novels animation, sakura CREATES a new sensory jutsu, infusing her chakra into a building and creating a mental map of the whole building by recognizing her chakra's trace and in the anime they created a new random character that tells them where the secret chamber is lmao or in boruto where they made her faint after all the damage she took was 2 stabs on her upper arm in the battle with shion). The mangaka is useless writing female characters or really any character that is not an uchiha, uzumaki or senju and on top of that you have the studio sabotaging the little few moments the mangaka gave her. And the other reason her love for sasuke. People really REALLY fin and issue with that bc how can she love a dude that tried to kill her, and wanted to destroy Konoha, but they magically forget that naruto did THE EXACT SAME THING, he still called sasuke his best friend after he tried to kill sakura, tried to kill naruto, tried to kill narut's friend, wanted to destroy konoha, literally joined a terrorist group that killed hundreds of ninjas and naruto still screamed sasuke kun JUST LIKE SAKURA but yall only get mad when she does it. It's either misogyny at is finest or yall really pressed that sakura rejected the "good guy" and choose to go for the "bad guy" instead and are just projecting your rejection issues lmao
It's funny how Hinata got a lot of filler moments with Naruto, even a whole dang flashback that's not in the manga during her pain fight,while most of Sakura's filler moments are her yelling or beating up Naruto( or Sai in some cases),there was clear favoritism among the anime writers.
For me Naruto's behavior was also terrible and did legitimately knock him down along with Sasuke, Orochimaru, Kabuto, and Sakura. The only thing as the full MC he has so much more good feats and moments that they keep him higher than the rest.
So two lead characters having the same motivation and feelings towards the other lead character is good writing, huh? Naruto is notoriously stupid. He's not literally an idiot, but he is hilariously dumb most of the time. His inability to put his feelings behind him is also part of his character. He's not a traditional shinobi because he's not an emotionless human weapon with eyes only for the village. Sakura was supposed to be the smart one, the logical one, the neutral one who stood between the two emotionally unrestrained yin and yang characters on her team. It would've been such an intelligent writing decision to make Sakura the one who became that traditional-style shinobi who set aside her feelings in favor of doing what was best for the village and, later, the world. But no. She just metabolized all the flaws of Naruto's character into hers and became easy to just shrug off as a background character for all the variety and interest she brought into the story. She shouldn't be with Sasuke. She should've been smarter and had more respect for herself than that. Karin was shown from the get-go to have zero sense of self respect because she was used as an object her entire life. Sakura wasn't. If Sasuke absolutely had to live through the whole series, he should've been rejected by Sakura and forced to settle for Karin. Sakura could've been cool. She wasn't.
Sasuke wanting to destroy konoha actually made sense. He learned that the leaders of Konoha gave Itach the mission to destroy his entire clan. Sasuke is looking at it from the point of view that itachi was forced to kill the uchihas. I would have had the same change in mindset.
@@HardCoverJacket At 1st he was only after the people that had something to do with the Uchiha massacre which were Danzo, Hiruzen and the 2 elders. But by the time he killed Danzo his ass was completely evil. Remember he didn't make the decision to destroy the leaf until after he killed Danzo and got Itachi's eyes.
@@treysavage4570 He says he gonna destroy leaf when he found about itachi and when he captured bee.What are u talking about?Stop tryin to justify his actions.
@@treysavage4570 I see what you are saying. He was off his rocks tho his common sense was gone. He was losing it when he had his team go after Bee and he completely lost it while killing Danzo.
I definitely get the Black Zetsu love/hate thing. The "mastermind pulling the strings" reveals can be REALLY COOL. But you don't get to just.....have one. You have to earn it. You have to _start the series_ with it already in mind, and put the signs in. If you can watch the entire series LOOKING for clues that that person was masterminding the whole time, and not find any? The author has FAILED. This happened in Dollhouse, despite being only two seasons long, and to this day I don't know WHAT the writers were thinking...
It would of made a bit more sense if Zetsu really was the final villain instead of Kaguya's pawn,at least he was in the story since the end of part one,Guy should have beat Madara and then Zetsu reveals himself.
ironically Zetsu who betrayed Madara was planned since the ending of part 1. The chapters 233 and 234 show Sasuke having a similar reaction as Hashirama (chapter 626) at the fact zetsu observe them and Kakashi said in these chapters how similar the story of Naruto and Sasuke is with the story of Hashirama and Madara (which is a direct foreshadowing of the reincarnations of Indra and Ashura manipulated by Zetsu). Kishimoto planned the Zetsu twist 8 years before it happened Also japanese speaks in 3 ways: Hiragana, Katakana and Kanji. Everyone in Naruto speak in Hiragana except 1 character since his first appearance and it's Black Zetsu. When the divine tree (Kaguya) speak to Madara to absorb her, the dialog was written in Katakana, it's a direct foreshadowing of Black zetsu being his true will. It's for this reason that for us zetsu being the will of Kaguya come out of nowhere when the Japanese are probably aware that this event will happen
@@hc.117 Appreciate the information. There's definitely a big difference between "there weren't any hints" and "you didn't notice the hints", and again with "the hints were lost in the translation into English." I'm a dab hand at Japanese myself, and I can definitely see a specific character using exclusively Katakana sticking out in a BIG way. From there, anything else that uses that is very likely connected to Zetsu. And since Madara doesn't...
@riluna3695 Sure. Naruto don't have chance about this point (like he don't really have chance with the cultural differences between east and west in general). The first time I watch the twist I also was like "WTF" but retrospectively I see some hints
People get so personally offended when someone dislikes a character. Like… it’s all subjective. What makes me like a character is a combination of fashion, hair, character development, their role, personality… and everyone has different preferences. It seldom ever has to do with what they’ve done. It’s often why I gravitate towards anti villans or anti heroes.
Within the OG series, Sakura kept getting fed as having such amazing potential (nods to her chakra control, not needing to cheat during round 1 of the chunin exams, a strategist that uses what resources she has available to her) but it constantly gets underutilized because Naruto and Sasuke are flashier. (plus, of course, a little bit of misogyny)
I think the epitome of "Characters people hate because they're written so well" is Shou Tucker from Fullmetal Alchemist. If you can find me a single person that doesn't just loathe that man; I will be shocked. Because that means Arakawa failed at writing him awful enough.
Eh, you can't just make a character a secret puppet master out of nothing. The reason such mastermind characters work is you can piece together their actions in retrospect and see how they work to reach their eventual goal upon review, but in Black Zetsu's case we were simply told that those actions happened and how important the character was after their surprise reveal. A murder mystery where the author had no idea who their culprit was going to be until the last chapter is not going to be satisfactory in the least, I don't care what motivations you give the murderer. If you want an example of the basic idea done well, then there's Father from Fullmetal Alchemist.
Zetsu who betrayed Madara was planned since the ending of part 1. The chapters 233 and 234 show Sasuke having a similar reaction as Hashirama (chapter 626) at the fact zetsu observe them and Kakashi said in these chapters how similar the story of Naruto and Sasuke is with the story of Hashirama and Madara (which is a direct foreshadowing of the reincarnations of Indra and Ashura manipulated by Zetsu). Kishimoto the Zetsu twist 8 years before it happened Japanese speaks in 3 ways: Hiragana, Katakana and Kanji. Everyone in Naruto speak in Hiragana except 1 character since his first appearance and it's Black Zetsu. When the divine tree (Kaguya) speak to Madara to absorb her, the dialog was written in Katakana, it's a direct foreshadowing of Black zetsu being his true will. It's for this reason that for us zetsu being the will of Kaguya come out of nowhere when the Japanese are probably aware that this event will happen
@@hc.117Yeah, no. Not even the Japanese are so anal that they would notice that random, infinitesimally meaningless detail and piece together the idea that Zetsu was working for Kaguya. Get the fuck outta here with that.
Yeah on a scale of "father" to "the jailer" I'd have to say BZ definitely trends more towards the jailer Father is the answer to an old mystery: who made the hommonculi, and why? BZ just sort of comes out of nowhere and grants an entire extra plot that wasn't even hinted at and overshadows basically everything that has happened up to this point and says "yeah actually this cycle of violence and revenge? My idea. None of you chumps ever did anything but what I told you. Now get fucked, white woman jumpscare"
While I would put Kaguya on my list, probably at the number 2 spot (after Obito) I think you hit the nail on the head that it isn’t really Kaguya that I hate but rather the moment that Madara died and we just have aliens now that serve as the big bad guy instead of really powerful and godLIKE villains rather than literal gods. Completely jumped the shark and almost made me not even care about the Naruto universe at that point. That is until The Last came out and made me fall in love with it all over again
I wish the circumstances were different and the setup was built up in a better way. Kaguya, Orochimaru and Pain are the only villains that gave me chills with how mystical, creepy and otherwordly they felt. That vibe is really something
@@_------------_because Madara has way more history explained throughout the whole Naruto show every now and then just to have a random alien replace him and push black zetsu as a person with all this crazy history that wasn't that hinted at.
Even though Sakura changed from being literal dead weight in Part 1 to a formidable kunoichi in Part 2, even being more badass in Boruto, the fact that Sakura was always insulting Naruto, beating him up for either doing something stupid, not understanding something or basically just being alive around her, as well as throwing temper tantrums every two seconds made it real hard for me to rewatch the anime without getting the need to punch her in the mouth and break her skull. Her bad temper and violent outbursts make her beyond insufferable for me. That doesn't mean I think she's useless after Part 1, in fact I think she's a really powerful ninja and remarkable medical ninja but what's the point of her being all that if she's gonna be so detestable 99% of the time? I'm so glad she grew out of those habits in Boruto, in fact it's in Part 3 where I like her the most. She's become a kind and hardworking mother, her dynamic with Sarada is adorable, even though she's married to Sasuke she's not simping for him all the time and her life doesn't revolve around him anymore, it's become more genuine love that has actually changed Sasuke too, and she doesn't beat up Naruto anymore, which is because I like to believe she wouldn't want any trouble for assaulting the actual Hokage.
She's a character that I actually really like, so as much as I hate to admit it, I agree with you, her behavior isn't justifiable and it really pisses me off, my personal remedy to that however, is that after the road to ninja movie (I know it's not canon, but to me, it actually makes her character make a lot more *sense* if nothing else, and as far as I'm aware, that's the most we've seen of her parents, and her mom literally just berates her in front of everyone.) I head cannon that she has parents who are at the very least emotionally abusive. It can explain everything from her hesitancy to act in the first place, to why she often lashes out or cries, to her unhealthy attachment to Sasuke and stuff like that. She has no ability to cope with her emotions, no healthy attachments to people, and to me, she reads as unable to act out of fear of messing up. I've known a lot of people who are like that in real life, and it gives her more depth as a character to boot. I can fully understand why someone else might not agree with it, but it made her a character I can connect with a lot better and makes watching her more tolerable than looking at it from the perspective of "well, she's just an insufferable bitch because the author doesn't know how to right women and thinks that's what they're like." But it makes a lot more sense if the perspective becomes "She's like that because she didn't know better,(which in turn could give a double meaning to when she talks about Naruto being a troublemaker because he didn't know better since he had no parents to teach him otherwise) because her parents didn't teach her any better." And it would also make sense as to why we never really see her parents if she doesn't get along with them. I guess if you're one of the people who likes when head cannons or fanfics try to fix the major flaws in a series or if you like the potential she has as a character, but struggle to get past the poor writing, this makes good food for thought.
I actually liked Ino and Sakura fight for the second time I watched, even though it was just a cat fight. It was good to get to know Ino a bit more, and her relationship with Sakura. She's a really caring person, like a big sister, as she cannot punch Sakura for the first time, she only slaps her 😂 also I think Ino and Sakura relationship is a bit like Naruto and Sasuke (in the beginning), as they are constantly fighting but actually they have a deep connection Of course their fight was childish compared to the other ones.
9:53 The only thing I really like about Obito are the parallels between his relationship with Kakashi and Naruto's relationship with Sasuke. It feels like an alternate universe where Obito is a Naruto that was broken down and became evil while Kakashi is a Sasuke that tried to be a better person despite his suffering and reasons to resent the world. If this was intentional though, I do think it's partially the reason why Obito's character doesn't strike a chord with people as he doesn't feel unique. This is made more apparent with his similarities to Nagato as well. Overall, I don't hate Obito but I do certainly think he could have been written in a more captivating way, but whether the time to fully flesh out the character to make him more captivating would have actually been worth the screen time is up in the air for me.
I've always had this little theory, that Kabuto was intended to be the superior orochimaru by late Shippuden, because he was not supposed to be brainwashed into betraying orochimaru. He always was, he's always betraying everyone, because unlike orochimaru could never master snake sage mode, Kabuto is a true snake by nature. But there was backlash to the idea that kabito's one defining trait, his extreme loyalty to orochimaru, was all an act, and the author chickened out.
I mean orchimaru is also kinda a snake of a human. He joins the Akatsuki just for Itachi's eyes. He slithers through the leaf pretending to be a kage just to attack the leaf. He tricks dozens of kids and used them like anko I think is how it's spelled. So even if that was the narrative it still would of just been copying who orchimaru was a manulating, untrustworthy snake.
im always in utter surprise and utter shock that Donso wasn’t put on death row to be executed for all of his conspiracies and hate crimes against almost everyone in the village
I think Naruto is the ultimate "He made me do it" story: Kabuto points at Orochimaru, who points at akatsuki, who points at Pain, who points at Obito, who points at Madara, who points at Zetsu, who points at Kaguya or Naruto who points at Sakura and Sasuke, Sakura points at Sasuke, who points at Itachi, who points at Danzo, who points at Hiruzen, who points at the previous Kages, who point at Madara, who points at Zetsu, who at Kaguya ...And so on...
To be honest I have gotten over the desire to hate fictional characters, usually I just try and understand what the writer is trying to accomplish with them or just accept their quirks because it's really not that annoying in fact I tend to dislike people who just and hate characters on just a what amounts to a hot take and they use that to superimpose on other characters in different media for characters that are only slightly like that. Like the concept of fangirls that seem to be inspired by Sakura's initial character gets used as an excuse to hate other female characters that only slightly share that trait but actually have far more depth to them.
What I dislike about Sakura hate by the fans is it is always directed at the character, and not as a representation of Kishimoto’s ever present misogyny. It is like they think she just exists in a vacuum and doesn’t say anything. Also something I love about Danzo is he is a powergamer to a T it is almost funny. The dude saw the world he lived in, realized how easy it was to break, then broke it. Simple as that. His eyes and arm make him really busted to most people.
I mean just because she's written out as a bad character because of misogyny that still doesn't change the fact that she was written pretty badly as a character.
@@cngotham4111 Right? You're judging the character, not the writer. Is the character written good or not? That should be your only concern when making a character top list.
> Kishimoto's ever present misogyny I don't think that's misogyny. O think that's the fact that Kishimoto's last interaction with a woman was in preschool. (His mother does not count)
And once again, Sakura wasn't trying to manipulate Naruto. Don't know where people keep getting the impression that the fake love confession was manipulation. She was trying to ease the burden of Naruto going through this violent ordeal of trying to get back Sasuke. The dude took a violent beating from Karui just because he refused to tell where Sasuke was
If you tell a lie became you want someone to feel a certain way they would not feel before you lied that is manipulation. Like even white lies can be manipulation. Saying someone is pretty when you don't really think that to give them more confidence is manipulation. Manipulation is not always evil. People often think they have good intentions when they manipulate someone.
Does Sakura really think Naruto did it just because of that promise, even though it's clear he cares about Sasuke? Even if Sakura convinces Naruto, and she does kill Sasuke, is she gonna tell him after that she was just lying to him so she can kill his best friend behind his back? The fact that she think this would work, after all the times she's rejected him? She is willing to break Naruto's heart on the off-chance that Naruto would believe her, just so she can kill Sasuke herself, which she failed to do anyway, making her a big hypocrite for trying to get Naruto to give up on Sasuke when she herself couldn't, and makes all that confession completely pointless. Her decision to lie to Naruto so she can kill Sasuke behind his back is one of the many reasons that caused Naruto to faint from hyperventilation.
To be fair to A Aukustki members came from every other village at the summit. If you're in A's position, that shit sure looks like conspiricy. Add on top of this that atleast one of those villages employed the Aukustki in the past, and it really looks like somebody's plotting war.
I'd be hard pressed to consider Black Zetsu a character of his own. He's just a part of someone else(Kaguya), it would be like considering the part of Voldemort that he put in the diary from the second book a distinct character. He's just a part of someone else that was separated to serve a purpose. Additionally, from your explanation of why you don't consider him a bad character, it seems more like you enjoy the trope that he attempts to be(and fails due to a complete lack of any foreshadowing or buildup). There are effectively 0 signs that he is manipulating things from behind the scenes, or even that he is a capable manipulator to begin with this renders the satisfying "aha" moment completely impossible, effectively removing the payoff from the trope entirely. As a follow up, should I be generous enough to consider Black Zetsu its own character and not just part of Kaguya, the claim that he is a good character who has a bad reputation because of a single moment is utterly laughable. If the main moment and the primary impact a character has on a story is to the detriment of the story, that character is bad... thus Black Zetsu, who's main impact on the story is killing Madara and bringing back Kaguya is from basically every measure a terrible character.
Yeah, I think I didn’t like Sakura, but I never hated her. Her chakra fist combat is cool. She has great medical ninjutsu prowess. And her short pink hair is a nice touch. I just kinda wish she had more done early on. Imagine if she could have a genjutsu summon while she came in and smashed their heads in. So cool.
Well originally she was intented to be the genjutsu specialist of team 7 , as Kakashi stated in the bell test that she had an affinity for Genjutsu. To bad that later they decided to make every non Sharingan related Genjutsu completely useless, Kurenai being a prime example ... a Genjutsu specialist but when faces with Itachi all she did was give birth to a meme.
Misogynistic is a stretch, pretty much other than Sakura I think most female characters are portrayed fine. Also DBZ isn't really progressive in itself. Pretty much the only female combatant is android 18
@@goby1764I think what is most annoying is that Naruto baits the audience. DBZ for the longest time doesn't have female warriors to dissapoint you with, what you see is what you get. Naruto shows you lots of kunoichi and does nothing with it, Ino does nothing, Ten Ten is a meme, Sakura and Hinata have like 1 moment each in the whole series, Kurenai is a meme, Shizune is said to be Kabuto-Kakashi level and does nothing, Mei does nothing, Anko was Orochimaru's student and has a cursed mark and does nothing. DBZ says Bulma is a scientist, and then she builds spaceships and time machines, so it delivers.
For me the zetsus are actually some of my most preferred characters of Naruto. They Aren't cracking my top ten's but I still like them. I also kinda like how black zetsu kills Madera. I like them because they are more like actual ninjas, or at least the main prescription of them. They are not front line fighters, they are spies, debuffers and assassins. Granted black zetsu's backstab was poorly foreshadowed and executed, but I still love how even the god of combat Madara fell because of a lowly underling that had an opening. I read a quote in a video game, if some punk kid can kill the most powerful man, then what good is all that power.
Also the Uchiha Pheromones have the ability to lower the IQ of any female to room temperature if they're near to him. So, what have in common all the worst bits of Sakura in Shippuden? Being near to Sasuke, exposed to his Uchiha Pheromones.
My beef with Sakura is she never grow past I'm hot for the cool kid. Naruto and Sasuke kinda makes sense because they never really had anyone else but each other. From the beginning until he abandoned the village Sasuke never ever seemed to like her but she stayed obsessed. Before someone says Hinata completely different relationship dynamic with Naruto and actually far more realistic. To add insult to injury Sakura ends up married to the dude. I feel like as she got old she should have become the voice of reason to Naruto. Also, just personal I'm not fan of tsundere characters. The hitting, yelling and punching boys you like or friends in this case was all ready over done when Naruto was airing.
The thing is, that their relationship took place off screen, after the series, and we see that Sasuke is actually a pretty good guy whenever he can go an extended period of time without having his emotions and psyche completely shattered by literally every major manipulator in a series about super ninja. She likes dark, stoic, and hyper-competent pretty boys, and Sasuke is her type and grew up to be a responsible adult who eventually returned her affections. Like, who else was she going to be interested in? Rock Lee or Naruto? As much as she likes and respects them, they are just not her type, and with Neji dead and both Shikamaru and Sai spoken for, Sasuke is still the best fit for her tastes. The biggest issue is how everyone ended up having their eldest kids at the same time. Like, Sasuke should have needed a few more years to be able to have a stable relationship than Hinata and Naruto would, much less be ready for parenthood.
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@@marthashepherd935 Hinata wasn't a studio pick she's the writers pick. He modeled her after his wife and said she was always supposed to end up with Naruto.
I will never try and justify the cruel person Sasuke was in the second half. But I do feel like his actions are in a similar vein to the way you describe Kabuto’s. This child has been manipulated by the people around him his entire life- Itachi, Obito, Orochimaru. These people basically weaponized his perfectly valid anger and hatred from an incredibly traumatic situation. And then him wanting to take over the village at the end, that just felt like a convenient excuse to have one last big fight with him and Naruto, it didn’t feel genuine at all. I think him wanting to join the war against the big bads at the end was him genuinely acting of his own free will for what’s probably the first time in his life, honestly. Again, I would never sit here and justify what he did, I think him taking time to try and repent and mature was the best call for him after all of that. But he was 100 percent cruel, I just don’t feel like it was of his own volition
The most character I hate is Sasukgay he is overrated and kishimoto give him a lot of plot armor and i hate how take other's eyes Without any Hurd and girls romantic shit he is not hundsom at all and there's a lot of people minipilate him he kill his brother and he want revenge WTF he Always try to kill Naruto he have trashy attaude .............. just spoiled character of kishimoto 😑🤏🤡
There's a lot of phycological cause and effect going on with Sasuke. We also tend to forget that these guys are in their late teens (although of a different breed than us lol). Konohana didn't care about no ones mental health haha. Just let that sink in and then try to tell me that most characters would have made rational and non-emotional decisions after a lifetime of untreated trauma, being lied to by authority figures and psychological abuse. We also can't forget that Sasuke halted his own progression because he never confided in anyone or tried to make friends unlike Naruto who seems to have a gift for drawing others to them. He tried to do it all alone but was made to realize there was value in having others by your side. Tbf, I wouldn't be logically inclined if I went through the same crap Sasuke went through. I'd probably feel I couldn't trust anyone to the point where someone had to be as strong as I was to try and reach my psyche--I.e Naruto because I'd be spiraling out of control . Just a thought but it's interesting.
Obito could've been better if more of his training by old Madara was shown. Also maybe if they delved more into how he lost his parents. We just needed to connect more with good Obito. I still always liked him but can understand people tending to misunderstanding his motivation. People forget that Madara was basically Darth Sidious/Palpatine to Obito's Anakin/Vader. You had an extremely potent and powerful malevolent entity grooming and influencing them at their most vulnerable. I think if people knew how powerful Madara was earlier on, they'd understand how Obito could become brought to the dark side of the force!
madara didnt train him tho lol the one who trained him was the two Zetsu and Kurou. all madara basically did was tell him to live or die the choice was his an that if he died he was going to take his eye to replace his missing one lol then he proceeded to emotionally manipulate him by setting up a fake crisis involving his two most cherished friends an going so far as to weaponize a tailed beast by placing it inside Rin to fuel obito's hatred of the ninja system.
@@DeusGamez your comprehension of this is insane my guy. Who do you think taught him how to use his sharingan? All the zetsu really did was provide comedy and armor.
@@neonclouds9295 himself... really bro did ya actually read? or do you just like to start arguments with insults to make people mad? LITERALLY in both the manga and the anime Madara doesn't teach him anything other than the fact that he has a "plan" which obito needs to use some uzumaki kid(nagato) to carry out lmao the whole rest of the time obito spent getting used to his new found abilities OH and you seem to also have forgotten when he stitched Kurou to a Zetsu clone Madara LITERALLY says : "this vessel is my will, talk to him to learn how to do things" 😂 next time you want to pick a comment fight with me try a lil harder
In fiction, a character's biggest Sin is being Anyoning and/or Boring, not being Evil Bc we read fiction to see scenarios that aren't real, we can enjoy villians even if they are evil bc THAT'S the point, that's what the point of having an antagonist or villian in a story is. We can like a villian while completely knowing that their actions are horrible and should not be replicated in real life We like good characters bc that makes us want to keep reading a story, and that's why a character making us not want to do so is way worse than a character killing people in fiction And even then, there is a line were if you write a character to be TOO EVIL, it becomes not likable regardless of if their actions can be justified or not Finding a balance between making characters entertaining and anyoning is difficult, and that's why we like Characters that are enjoyable to read, regardless of if it is bc they are complex/deep, or if it is simply bc they are funny
Crazy to think sasuke gets more hate than itachi I watched naruto and naruto shippuden twice And sasuke doesn't deserve that much hate I know he was horrible in shippuden, but itachi, no matter how u look at it, he still IS responsible for sasuke's behavior. Now, i do suffer from different types of mental health issues, and trauma is no joke Sasuke's behavior was basically because of unresolved trauma I know sasuke did tons of wrong choices However it is still because of itachi Sasuke was a cheerful kid and looked up to his brother more than anything Itachi knew he had him as a role model. Yet itachi chose to kill the entire clan and leave his own brother, now sure, he wanted to leave sasuke unharmed But if he really loved him THAT much, why did he HAVE to show him the clan's death on loop and his parents death?? And he was 7 years old??? He also punches him in his stomach,and told him he is totally worthless and he will allow him to live his ugly life,yeah...so much love i could tell 😒 Then after that first trauma, sasuke becomes what others call "emo" though he was just a "keep himself to himself" kid after what happened, and he starts having low self confidence and envy others. But He still tried to learn and wanted to avenge the clan and kill the traitor, his brother. Sure itachi was preventing war, I'm not saying he made a right or wrong choice. however he STILL is responsible for sasuke's behavior no matter what yall think. He made some friends and was happy for a while, he even tried to rescue naruto from dying against haku, he tries to rescue sakura during gaara vs naruto, he tries to even rescue naruto from itachi because he knows him more than naruto and from here, when he meets itachi, first he tells him i have no interest in you, which itself hurts, he doesn't acknowledge his brother or his existence And when sasuke thought he had a shot to kill itachi He grabs his hand, BREAKS it, breaks afew bones of his ribcage too cause why not 😑, tells him he is soooo weak and doesn't have enough hatred in his heart AND puts him into another loop for 72h of his parents death. He goes into a coma for about a month And yet, after this much abuse, he attempts to become rouge but kakashi talks to him, he rethinks of the situation...and before he even makes his mind on which side to take, orochimaru sends four sound ninjas against sasuke who has just woke up from a coma, and they beat him up telling him "you want power? Come with us" Ofcourse getting beat up and bleeding after a coma and mental/physical abuse, will make him want more power because he IS weak againts those who abuse him He finally goes to orochimaru. And yall are p*ssed off because when sasuke learned itachi had no choise, he wanted to avenge hima and destroy the leaf right? This shows how sasuke was pure, because he originally loved his brother so much he wished he didn't do anything bad. When his brother tortured him under the word "power" which is btw can be obtained through other methods that doesn't involve violence against your own beother, when he tortured him, he kept telling him to hate him So he did But then upon learning the truth, he was crushed because that meant his brother was a victim. So he still had every right yo think the way he did. So idk why people hate him he literally is just damaged from childhood and he really does resemble some real life people after trauma. 😞
11:18 THIS listen, Obito is my absolute favorite character, i love him with a burning passion, but he did NOT need a redemption arc, he did NOT need to switch sides after being neck deep in his nihilistic approach to life. My ideal Obito is someone beyond redemption because he 100% believes that he done nothing wrong to be redeemed for.
Pretty sure there's more to people despising Madaras death then just that its killing Madara. Half the reason people hate Boruto to this day is because "it's not about Ninjas anymore" (Whatever that means...) Kaguya and Zetsu being so high is probably in part because they allowed Boruto to exist by bringing aliens into the universe.
“Not being about ninjas anymore “ is referring to the loss of the main premise of the plot. That you don’t have to be born great, hard work is enough. Making naruto the reincarnation of an alien destroys that. He was fated to be the hero as of that point being revealed. It doesn’t make his work void however it cheapens every win and every speech about hard work. Therefore the story was no longer about a hard working ninja. It’s now about a fated battle that was pre destined. Rather than manifested through will. It reduces all of the hard work to plot armor. Not that complex.
@@craigford33 exactly, and let me add also that adding to the story aliens and cyborgs was a bit extreme. The first part of Naruto actually had pretty tactical fights and this continued until the Pain arc. The war arc is where they started to go offroad with the edo tensei and in the end of the show Naruto and Sasuke were demi-gods. In Boruto they had the choice to return to the origin and return to be more similar to actual human ninjas, instead they decided to go off chart with aliens, gadgets and cyborgs as said. Hell in Boruto ninjutsu in so useless (due to the fact that everyone can absorb them) that the author had the make up the excuse that the characters started to use taijutsu more to make up for it.
Manga Sakura is not tsundere and she even saved Naruto in the second volume. So I like her in the manga. But *WHYYYYYYYYYY* did she stay in love with Sasuke? He tried to murder her twice, he verbally abused her, he tried to murder multiple innocent people, he was going to change the world using evil methods...like Sasuke objectively deserved the death penalty (and Orochimaru).
@NCHammer23 what if we've misunderstood Naruto's conversations this whole time, what if what we call "Talk no Jutsu" is a diluted Shinjutsu similar to the Charm ability?
@magician1231 lol we're here to fix Kishimoto's plot holes. But seriously, I always thought it was weird folks would give up on their life ideology cause they talked to a kid. But with the introduction of Shinjutsu and he being an an reincarnate of Ashura seems plausible he could have one or traces of one. More plausible than a teenager being the best diplomat ever at least 🤷🏾♂️
Kaguya was bad because she is the Cloud of Darkness. Introduced during the twilight of the show, not built up and not fully developed. Unlike Madara which had a huge history building up to his return. Kaguya was like “hey look! I am here now.”
21:22 To expand on this, from a worldbuilding standpoint this doesn’t even make sense. In the world of Naruto being an orphan is probably very common when the profession we see the most is being a kung fu wizard assassin. ESPECIALLY in the aftermath of the Nine Tails Attack. Making fun of Naruto for being an orphan shouldn’t have even really crossed her mind, since a ton of the kids she probably played and interacted with outside of the Shinobi Academy were likely *ALSO ORPHANS*
Because that was the straw that broke the camel's back that made him realize the fucked up world everyone lived in that he now agreed with Madara needed to be changed. As he also literally said in a panel, the war isn't just about Rin. She is just a highly relevant piece in the grander puzzle that is his motivation for Eye of the Moon.
I kinda like Kabuto. He was basically the antithesis of Naruto in the story and probably shows what would've happened had Naruto and Sasuke been swapped
My top 10 most hated characters 1. Sakura 2. Karin (she is really useful though ) 3. Kiba 4. Hanzo 5. Kabuto 6. Obito ( great character but I still him him ) 7. Itachi ( his plot twist made me absolutely hate him ) 8. Kankuro 9. Danzo 10. Sai
for me its hard to pick characters for a top hated characters list, I like it when characters do evil and bad and disgusting things to a degree because that's at least interesting, what I tend to dislike is more in the realms of blandness, unused potential, and I tend to like underdog type characters. I feel my list would even have madara somewhere up high somewhat for being that "all power and not much else" that my teenager self perceived him as
I kinda actually really liked Kabuto. The fact that he had no identity was interesting. It really showed the psychological effects of what ROOT and Danzo did to him as a kid. But I definitely hated what they did in the war arc
I would put Shonen Jump('s Editors) as my absolute #1 least favorite character. They were responsible for quite a few problems, including Madara's death and 99% of characters getting sidelined in Shippuden in favor of Naruto and Sasuke (fans liked them more = more people buying issues that focus on them)- this is also why Sakura got handled so poorly in Shippuden, the editors didn't want much focus on a characters fans already hated).
Danzo is the definition of bad guys thinking they do the right thing because it is the "absolute necessity". He is nowhere near good, but he thinks he does good deeds for Konoha.
In a way I understand where Danzo is coming from with the whole "for the sake of the village"-thing, I still hate him for all terrible things he did but I like his desing and his voice in both Japanese and English is so good ❤
I personally love the Danzo archetype of career politician. Conflating what is good for them, is good for the village as a whole (what is good for the goose is good for the gander). Almost perfect execution, with the caveat of having this extremely manipulative person only use his MS during the 5 kage summit. But that is more a knock on Kishi introducing OP powers without considering how they would affect the world as a whole.
I don't actually need to respect black Zetsu because there was no lead up to that reveal. Part of the problem is that it came out of nowhere and didn't get an explanation until AFTER it happened. Black Zetsu is just a narrative device, and the reveal of him being born of the 2nd big narrative device reveal (Kaguya) is actually just a retcon of what we were told he was earlier as a tool made by Madara. It's peak Bad Writing 101 where Kishimoto just wanted a surprise twist reveal bad guy with Kaguya. Kaguya outside of the context that she was made up by Kishi 1 page before her chapter drop to be the new last second villain IS kind of interesting in that it's a direct reference and twist of the Moon Princess of the same name in JP folklore and mythology. . . But in the context of Naruto, she's a bad last second heel reveal that had no in lore or world build up. Her utility as a narrative tool was for a second story to exist once Naruto ended, and that REALLY sucks.
11:15 also it made sense for nagato because he never had his own philosophy,first he wanted follow jiraya then yahiko and madara(obito) and then again naruto(jiraya) in other words he was easy to persuade being weak has nothing to do with hate that sakura or even karin generates at least for me its not,for me that emotional manupulation thing you mention and hurt naruto ,in brief she is written poorly,no underline misogyny there ,with tsunade hate of course there is underline misogyny nami and Go D Ussop are also weak but they are not hated or at least i don't,i mean there is still a section of fandom that hate nami so i guess you label them as misogynist if you want to,but sakura and karin hate is justify cause there annoying qualities far out-weights their likeable qualities
I still firmly believe kaguya was introduced by black zetsu killing madara because madara became too powerful to defeat and kishimoto couldn’t figure out how to kill him off, and kaguya was the easier choice. Madara deserved to be the final villain…
My top ten hated in no particular order Sakura - poorly written at first Sasuke - I just didn't like him, at some points he was saved by plot armor many times Sai - Meh Kabuto - What NCHammer23 said Kiba - Annoys me Naruto - Talks of hardwork but he is the most gifted. He is very loud Konkuro - Gaara's brother, bored me Neji - After his fight with Naruto this man faded into nothing Kaguya - She feels like a retcon Danzo - Beautifully written, a character you love to hate I liked A and Obito
Nooo!! Kabuto is one of my favorites; he and Sai and Minito are like some of my absolute favorite characters. And I really don't mind Sakura or Sasuke too, I enjoy their roles in the story compared to other characters like Naruto and Sai. I do wish Kabuto ended the story trapped in Itachi's genjustu; that would have been a fitting end to his story. But I love watching his unraveling and can relate to his identity search, I just love him, from Chununs to war, he's one of my favorites. His voice acting is incredible too!
Man I couldn't pinpoint why I felt disappointed by Obito at the end of Shippuden, but now that you've explained it like this, I get why I felt Nagito was better written. (Also Karin rip) Thanks Nick! Great video. P. S. As a Sasuke lover I didn't like him in Shippuden tbh. You're right in what he wanted vs the early days of Naruto. Him among the others listed could've been better.
God, if only Kaguya was introduced imidietely after Guy kicked Madara into Oblivion, and then by being weakend the Ootsutsuki emarge with Zetsus ONLY staying nearby saying something like "Oh finally mother, you back". THIS STORY WOULD BE SO MUCH COMPELING.
I’ll take this opinion to my grave. I hate Obito. I absolutely despise Obito. He did not deserve his redemption and he sure as hell didn’t deserve to just die a hero and go to heaven with his girlfriend like nothing happened.
@@VTWSReguardless of whether she becomes his girlfriend or not in the afterlife they’re still friends which is more than he deserves and she didn’t seem to have too much of a problem with what Obito did.
Just noticed a thing about kaguya, her story says she descended to plant a tree that would drain all the chakra of the world and destroying it later... but the story ALSO says that this world didn't had chakra before... the FIRST being with chakra was his son, so she was depicted as "the progenitor of chakra" . . . Am i wrong?
My favorite Naruto characters are Konan and Madara my least favorite characters are Danzo and Isobu (I dislike Sakura but thats because of when she tried to emotionally manipulate Naruto but shes definitely not one of my least favorite characters)
It's kinda weird to think about which characters I hate the most, since like you I get hung up on that juxtapostion between how they were written/how they were intended, or I've rationalized headcanons to improve them. But my top 5 most hated are: 5. Danzo - You're SUPPOSED to hate him, every bad thing that ever happened after Madara's Death goes straight back to Danzo. 4. Obito - One bad day and he fell straight into the Alt-Right pipeline. Dude was played like a fiddle by Madara, but ALSO fucked up betraying him in the final stages, and literally started a war with the world over a girl just to get talked out of it by a teenager, smdh. 3. Black Zetsu - Why was Zetsu ever more than a fly on the wall? Saying that he "dictated the events of shinobi history" retroactively kneecaps and undermines every motivation of every villain in the show. Were they a bad/confused person trying to fix the world in their own broken way, or were they subconsciously manipulated by Black Zetsu into doing it? Never should've happened. 2. Madara - The blueprint that Obito and Danzo copied. Every bad thing that EVER happened was ACTUALLY Madara's fault, due to him creating the conditions that made Danzo. Dude literally devised a plan to die, be resurrected, seal a god inside himself and cast the world into a genjutsu that makes dreams reality in order to create a world for himself where he could defeat the man he loved in battle, rather than going to therapy. 1. Minato - "Minato" is his nickname, because his ACTUAL name is Mary Sue Namikaze. The dude was OP from day one, got 2 separate unearned power ups upon his resurrection, never struggled, was loved by everybody, and was forgiven for making batshit crazy decisions that would've made MADARA second-guess himself. Bruh can teleport faster than light, but couldn't teleport himself, his son, and his wife out of the way of Kurama, even tho both of them had Flying Raijin Markings on them? He orphaned his son the day he was born, leaving him no money, no support system, a demon sealed inside him, and not a SINGLE inkling of who his parents were, subjecting him to a life of struggle and loneliness, but he gets a pass for that because "I knew you could do it. After all, you're my son"? Fuck that noise, and fuck Minato.
I don't know if there is enough content on this to make a full video but I'd love to hear you break down the similarities between the Hyuga clan and Otsutsuki. The way the Hyuga model the main and side branch family is so similar to when the pair of Otsutsuki go to a planet. Wonder if there are other similarities we aren't noticing
It's a shame about Karin. So much potential, near design, giant Uzumaki chakra pool, but barely does anything beyond moaning as Sasuke bites her for health. Girl has the chakra to pull off some big ninjutsu, and Uzumaki are known for sealing techniques. She could have learned some useful utility sealing jutsu and been more of a support/medic.
11:13 i think this is the whole point of talk no jutsu. Revealing the hypocrisy and contradictions of the characters, that they were actually already aware of. Some of the characters act like "I know what you're going to say" with Naruto, which to me, means that they already know they are fucked up. They just can't shake it, they can't stop themselves because of their trauma and the fact that they went too far already anyway.
How is sasuke getting a power up by orchochimaru curse mark is different from kurama sealed inside naruto? Both got imense power which was difficult to control yet if controlled can make you strong. He got power boost of eternal mangekyon sharingan from Itachi's eyes but he killed Itachi out of vengeance. And at last both naruto and sasuke got power boost by sage of six path. I say both character obtain power and yield them to it's full potential.
