I'm a former inspector for SpaceX. As much as I love the Dragon, I love buttons you can push and actual flight controls. I'm on the boomer/gen x line so buttons make more sense to me. I love how the Starliner actually looks like it has a cockpit. That being said, Dragon is Star Trek whereas Starliner is Star Wars. I think Dragon is going in the right direction. Congrats to Boeing.
I'm a little older and I like the tactile response of a switch or button vs a numb touchscreen, I equate it to today's cars vs the cars we drove 30 years ago. But the new generation of spacers have grown up with touch technology and trust in automation and Dragon and future spacecraft are for the young astronauts of today and tomorrow.
@@gaaguim Yeah, Even Apollo is more organized than this spacecraft. Don't get me wrong, apollo has a lot more buttons, But seemingly any spacecraft which was influenced directly by politicians (like the shuttle) Seems to just have crap lying around everywhere. The Apollo spacecraft when the politics with it were just do what has to get done was stellar. Switches more, however, not a cluster F of stuff everywhere. It all had a compartment and was labeled and stowed properly. Apollo had peak cockpit layout imo.
I freely admit to being a die hard SpaceX fan. Yes, Starliner looks antiquated compared to Crew Dragon, but I am thrilled for Starliner, Boeing, and everyone involved with this tremendous accomplishment.
Great socks, Suni. I was looking at her bio and that woman can literally fly anything with rotors. Turn your lawnmower upside down and she'd make it fly.
Aircrafts used to have black dashboards back in 1960.. Then someone realized that there are colors that will make your working environment more pleasant 😁
Truly amazing watching live the astronauts in space shuttle. ...thanx to Sunni & Butch...you guys doing a great job. .Truly inspirational to youths who aspiring to become astronauts. Come back soon safely ...we all are waiting.
Her zero-g hairdo is wild, but if I was a female on the space station, it would be a hairnet or ponytail for me. At 4:29 he mentioned practicing a safe haven event if debris is heading toward the space station. Wouldn't the debris be heading to the Starliner spacecraft too? They're doomed either way. I see no restroom in there. I guess that's done in their seats. :/
Pretty cool She's the first astronaut that I've seen or noticed who have tattoos. At least I've never noticed any other astronauts on the spacestation showing their tatt's. Again, pretty cool.
Hey Suni! E essas meias coloridas? Hey girl, você está convidada para voar de Helicóptero sobre as montanhas! Você vai gostar, a temperatura é agradável. A Starliner em manual é segura? Dá para fazer? Ou é loucura? Muito complicado consertar aí sem recursos? Muitos tubos, muitas conexões e as válvulas? Acesso difícil?
Hello this is your captain "speaking we are now approaching the international station please wear you're seat belt and get comfortable" lol "Boeing starliner
Considering Boeing says it's "state of the art" and that was their goal as a capsule for "the future" - I'm hoping they take these comments as an insult lol. If you want a retro capsule in 2024, watch a sci-fi movie. It shouldn't be what we're paying for.
Just one quick point folks, much has been made of the touch screens vs discrete controls. Touch screens are great if you can pull over and wait for someone to replace it, if they fail in space there is no way the crew can repair it. Mechanical switches can be swapped if one fails. There is a place for both on these craft but I'd sure like to know if the screen goes dark I can still steer the ship.
These ships are flown almost entirely automatically by computer, and can also be flown remotely. The screens are re-configurable and either position can control anything they want to. I believe their tablets can also take over the interface if needed. When was the last time you had an LCD screen fail, btw? The odds of a physical switch failing are MUCH higher ironically. Think of your local gas station's merchant / credit card reader. Those things get punched on hundreds of times a day, and last for years. Totally cliche argument with no ACTUAL data to back it up.
@@EstorilEm yes and when systems fail or communications break down you need to be able to still drive the ship. Starting as far back as Project Mercury the craft could be controlled from earth There's nothing wrong with touch screens but as spaceflight has proved repeatedly sometimes you still need to do it by hand. While what happen on Apollo 13, more likely than not won't happen again, a loss of a major part of the power on a ship will happen again, just like it does on another of Mr Musk's products Tesla. I like Tesla cars but like all complex machines things happen that no one planned for and the more basic and accessible the underlying control system is the easier it is to recover it.
@@MLampner ah yes because Tesla = SpaceX, the anti-musk people are so braindead they are worse than the Elon fanboys. Good job completely ignoring the two replies to your comments on LCD's rarely failing ( especially 3! ) and being still controllable either autonomously, or remotely by someone on the ground. Secondly a major powerloss is completely irrelevant to why switches and knobs are better than touch-screens, neither would work because all the thrusters, flight computers and anything else would be offline too.
I watch the space station fly over my house all the time. I can usually see you for the first time of the night around 9:33pm pacific time, then about every 90 minutes after that. Unfortunately you’re flying over to the south of me and you’re not visible for as long as you are when you fly directly over me. I can see you when you first pop into sight in the west until you disappear in the east. I’ve tweeted you a few photos and videos I’ve taken but nobody ever replies. It’s still fun seeing you though! Next time you’re flying over Oregon around 9:30 pacific time wave and flash your lights at me! 😂
Glad to finally see it. As someone mentioned, the Crew Dragon is roomier, but this would appear more roomy were there not so much stowed where other crew would sit. The important thing is we now have three choices for going to the ISS, the tried and true Russian Soyuz, the Crew Dragon, and this spacecraft, and two can land on land. The next moon landing seems so far away however Kudos to China for getting their lander on the surface and Japan too though their lander is "tipsy" having too much Sake on its voyage (just kidding). Practically all our electronics in the US have something made in China or Japan, which is what keeps electronics reasonably priced compared to what they were years ago. I always feel humbled, as I did at age eight when Apollo 11 landed on the moon, by what Space tech has done in maintaining my own health, making 63 feel like I did when I was 30. That is why, regardless of the countries in Space, Space travel has shown us though the earth is flat to walk on, it's a beautiful blue marble in space. Once I flew high enough to see the curvature of the earth. The sky above was so dark and I felt this 'benevolence' come over me, remembering though it's a small world after all, we are not alone as mammals, as long as we do not fear spiders and snakes like Indiana Jones (just kidding), no spider or snake has ever harmed me or my old lady and our daughter. The ISS researches medicine and the effects of weightlessness. Anyone who has been on a modern roller coaster or dropped from the Stratosphere tower or other drop tower has felt the wonder of weightlessness and also should know it is not a good idea to jump out of a perfectly good aircraft without planning for a landing you can walk away from.
It's going to get in everything. I think it is rude to have your hair blowing or floating in people's faces, while some hairs shed and get stuck in machinery.
This Boeing crew capsule is so much more cluttered and chaotic than the SpaceX crewed Dragon capsule shown in this video tour: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1QcVa71FWQA.html . The Boeing design seems like old-school technology in comparison. Has SpaceX omitted some functionality or backup systems to achieve this clean interior?
The only thing they omitted was old school manual controls. You could still control it manually if need be through the screen and not through switches and levers. In terms of the requirements NASA sets for human rated spacecraft, dragon omits nothing, it’s just a different (and far superior imo) design.
Seeing comments about the cockpit design. For sure there is a philosophy behind both companies. One is more through safe design and the same philosophy that is applied to the aircraft, redundancy. Other trust in the hw failure hate only. In my opinion as an aeronautical engineer I much prefer the starline cockpit with more buttons.
All these comments about the cockpit looking old and outdated really don’t know about pilots wants and needs. Digital controls compared to physical buttons, provide a lot more redundancy and allow pilots to actually fly the spacecraft. In my opinion dragon looks oversimplified. With too much abstraction takes away most of the pilot aspect from the role.
But you do a full orbit every 90 min, why not wait to record this for when your over the sunlit part of Earth? Wouldn't that make more sense. Were talking a wait time of max 45 minutes. Am I being unreasonable here?
How embarassing must it be to present this piece of utter junk to public. What exacly did these two wrong that they are punished with flying this crap? Disciplinary was yesterday - now you have to fly Starliner :-D :-D :-D
There are 48 astronauts with NASA currently - sometimes up to almost 150. Many will never have the opportunity to be selected for a launch. If their name is called, you can bet your life on them accepting the mission, period. Plus this has the unique distinction of being a test flight, and they will forever be the first astronauts to fly on this new spacecraft - I don't care if the thing is a POS (which, I kinda think it is) that's still quite an accomplishment and major bragging rights, even WITHIN the astronaut community.
@elguapoguano Starliner has more interior volume. Starliner looks like a cargo dragon with a crew interface and seats inside it. Crew Dragon has covered storage compartments inside it. Elon Musk was very adamant about maintaining a sleek, neat interior. There are earlier videos of Crew Dragon's open interior compartments
Sardinero looks very similar to a regular plane what is referente to equipamiento But what as far as the transmisión allows is actually not so easyJet to believe space for seven crewmembers with all freshair tubes inside the capsule. Why is it necessary adicional fresa air ?
It was designed and tested by Chris Ferguson, a former space shuttle pilot. So, a trained pilot has to be in command. Crew Dragon is designed so that u don't have to be a trained pilot to command it amd pilot it.
It is good to see all the manual controls. Software is subject to failure and has been proven to fail throughout the years. While the dragon capsule looks cooler with much more room I feel this would ultimately be safer given the crew has the ability to manually control the craft if needed. Not really sure why this capsule seems so small when compared to the dragon capsules. I’ll say this, I bet the crews of the space shuttle were very glad they were part of the shuttle program having so much more room to move about the craft than these single purpose sardine cans. I love space but have lost a lot of respect as this is definitely a step backwards for the space shuttle.
Well good thing you aren't an engineer, because looks dont mean anything. Physical controls are probably smarter than touchscreen because they don't turn off if the power goes out
Man, space X is in the next generation for starliner.. Cock pit and laguage area all looks like scene in the movie. Starliner is jammed and disorganized, and now with that docking jam,
great to see the contrast in design philosophy's between Boeing and SpaceX with respect to Astronaut UI. Starliner seems more traditional and "old school" vs Dragon
I wonder how spacious and comfortable the capsule is when Boeing finally need to send 4 astronauts in ISS. When now it looks so messy and very tight Inside the capsule. However congratulations for the two astronauts finally made it into ISS safe and sound. Now the next step is return back to earth hopefully nothing bad happen to the capsule.
I don't know. Probably because you're not a test pilot / astronaut. You think about what matters in these situations. Having a Cuisinart doesn't really matter much.
Have you ever played Reentry? It is a simulator for Mercury, Gemini and Apollo spacecraft. Try that and you will see, why it definitely does not look like apollo. Apollo had phyiscal switches everywhere all around. Every single function was controlled by physical switches. Even the control of the audio recording tape. The only thing remotely similar to a tablet was the 10-Digit input for the AGC, the DSKY - which btw has huge buttons. I wonder why....
