NASA Needs SpaceX To Destroy ISS, Space Suit Maker Gives Up - Deep Space Updates June 28th 

That would be the head of ESA Space Transportation, unfortunately.

It is a very European style political move though. They don't like troublemakers or disruptors.

Who will pay for reusability? In the US Starlink investors are paying for reusability, in China - government(I won't be surprised if they will copypaste Starlink network just like anything else) . Europe doesn't need a vehicle with reusability option simply because there is nothing to launch so often.

​@@Immanatummaybe europeans would have more stuff to launch if it was actually affordable. How many universities, private industry, smaller government payloads would benefit from an affordable ticket on a rocket? If every launch costs 150 million euros then the only satellites that ever get launched will be massive hundred million euro endeavors.

And the Unions (just like ULA) would go on strike if they couldn't build a multi-million dollar tube of disposable aluminum for the rest of time. Starlink is NOT paying for re-usability, but benefiting by it. Starlink users ARE paying for StarShip development.

idk why I'm thinking this way

I would sighn that petition

I hope they will fit camera's to both the deorbit vehicle and the space station itself and broadcast the reentry of the station live on internet ! This is going to be so much more cool even than just 1 melting flap.

@@arjensmit6684 yep, we are going full kerbal there

@@arjensmit6684 like in /r/kspmemes the tom hanks post

afaik if you have smelled UDMH, you dead already

I don't know. If it's not falling directly on your head, might be useful to measure wind direction first.

​@@PetrPss yes you may want to confirm if you are "running down the train tracks" to escape the train.

I went to china, and all i got was chewed up by escalators, ate poison food, and then a rocket fell onto my house made of fake crumbling concrete. But at least nothing bad happened at tiananmen square.

GAS GAS GAS

Yup, Asianometry videos rule

Isn't he also the very ironic reason for ITAR?

"You know that guy that knows more about rockets and missiles and supersonic aerodynamics than *literally* any other person on the planet?" "Yeah." "Yeah, let's fuck with that guy's life and livelihood and then deliver him directly into the hands of our sworn enemy." "Brilliant!"

China & Russia was an ally to US during WWII but betrayed due to communist fear. Also, V2 is German made rocket.

Enemy of an enemy. Not an Ally. Japan attacked Perl Harbor because the US press was beginning to publicize the Japanese mistreatment of Chinese. The US was beginning to support China due to their misfortune. Unfortunately, after the War with Japan. There was a vacuum of power which dozens of warlords attempted to fight for. The most friendly to the US was Chaing Kai-Shek who had proven himself in WWII against Japan and have a very favorable opinion of the US. Unfortunately, Communist ideology swept through China, fueled by the USSR. Chinese wanted a radical change, and they got just that when they fought to promote Mao into power.

Can the Boeing Starliner pressure suits plug into the Space X lifesupport system ? Are they easily compatible with standardized connections ?

@@craigriddell1169 Not at all

Right, no big deal. Heck, not to long ago Frank Rubio actually moved his Soyuz seat into Dragon Crew-5 when MS-22 had that coolant leak. The Russians still would have rode MS-22 in an emergency, but Frank would have returned in Dragon as a 5th passenger in an emergency. If something was actually wrong the Boeing crew would shelter in Dragon.

@@craigriddell1169 if this were truly an emergency, I don’t think they would be so worried about the suits. Also I would hope we learned our lesson on that after Apollo 13.

I honestly don't follow the ins-and-outs of the ISS that closely, but I do recall hearing that there's always (generally?) a Soyuz-TMA capsule docked as a lifeboat, which was increased to two capsules when the standard occupancy was doubled to 6 persons. The tl;dr: being that everyone has 1.5 to 2.0 seats available to them (on average) to ride home in an emergency. I don't understand why there is such drama over the leak, other than "hur hur Boeing".

I'm twice your age and... Exact same reaction!

and then instead of getting paid for the job they can be sued for messing it up

​@@tetsujin_144the memelord likes lawsuits, so that would fit him perfectly.

So basically For All Mankind Season 4

They could claim salvage???

Dont ask for permission ask for forgiveness

Do you understand how BIG that thing is? The ISS was sent up in sections in the space shuttle cargo area. Then, the solar arays add width to it by hundreds, maybe even thousands of feet to the sides of the modules. It was never meant to return to earth.

​@@Goldengirl48 I think they mean a dedicated orbit where it stays forever so people could visit it many years from now. I don't think it's possible, but a cool thought.

@@Goldengirl48 Why would you think I was suggesting it be returned to earth?

The issue isn't a lack of place to put it --- the issue is a lack of ability to put it anyplace more stable than it is. A "museum orbit" would need to be far higher than ISS has ever been, and take far more resources than deorbiting it. And then it's still a huge complex machine that needs to be maintained so it doesn't break down (like batteries exploding, coolant circuits breaching, etc) and send debris out.

​​@@Goldengirl48 They're talking about moving it to a different orbit. Deorbiting the ISS reminds me of the "peace crimes" that were the scrapping of USS Enterprise (CV-6) and HMS Warspite instead of keeping them as museum ships. (So, I'm definitely a fan of OP's idea of having a specific museum orbit)

Sounds like a gravestone someone might uncover on the Moon in a few thousand years time…

"Space Jam DJ"

And a pilot.

It's ok, we can use our backpack thrusters to get to the Chinese space station!

That movie was trash.

@@guillermoelnino bruh how

@@judet2992 i'm not saying it wasn't entertaining. But it was trash. BRUH.

@@guillermoelnino how so? Definitely heart pounding, and I know all about the inaccuracies. The stations being that close would be hilarious even in KSP with how small Kerbin is, let alone compared to the sheer massiveness of Earth.

It should be pretty quick, they don't have much to pack or many choices of what to wear 🙂

Yeah not really, it's all going to burn up, well like 95% will burn up. The other 5% will crash in the ocean and give rise to Godzilla 🤞

@@EJ_WA It is supposed to land in the U.S. If it mostly achieves that target and crashes in the U.S. desert it should not create Godzilla but the Giant Gila Monster.

@@EJ_WA the amount that will "burn up" is greatly exaggerated, it will break into many pieces but most of the wreckage will reach splashdown

donning the suits in freefall is slow, some onboard systems must be thawed from a sleep mode that may or may not work at the first try (Soyuz looking at you), and all checks to make sure that nothing got broken while in orbit also take time.

Quick! Someone call Matt Lowne!

@@patrikhjorth3291 KSP forever!

IR could stage the rescue, but there would be strings attached...

@@johnbuchman4854 🤣🤣🤣 Shucks! Not even Captain Scarlet could untie THOSE knots!

Brains will think of something 🙂

Welcome to Authoritarian regimes.

Welcome to socialism. Where the means of production belong to the community, AKA you belong to the community, AKA you belong to the government. And you are replaceable.

'The collective good' ? Wrong planet, mate.

They should learn from us and dump their toxic rocket waste in the ocean.

The village was evacuated before the launch, they always are. If you don't like them having their spaceports inland, then the US can stop sailing carriers off their coasts

Not sure NASA would be too comfortable with sending up a spacecraft which just had a critical failure to rescue the astronauts

Not all failures are design failures. So if one Dragon has a leak, it can be some worn valve that has nothing to do with another capsule.

@@kneekoo sure, but the nature of the failure and the cause thereof would need to be investigated before they would be comfortable with sending up another one, which takes time.

@@thomaspinklington7699 There's a number of failures that are obvious and can even be fixed on the pad. Starliner flew to the ISS with a known issue, not everything halts the mission for a long time.

Not to mention that SpaceX was blazing a new path with civilian orbital launches using a 70 meter tall rocket capable of 13 tons to orbit… while RocketLab is messing around with an 18 meter tall rocket, capable of bringing about 0.33 tons to orbit. Excuse me if I don’t seem enthusiastic about RL reaching 50 launches a few months faster than SpaceX. 😂

3 starships? it would be cool.

I love that Starlink is viable realistic satellite internet. I switched from landline based ISP with terrible reliability and speed throttling issues to having Starlink which is not only fast but also so much more reliable and is constantly getting better with more and more launches. Wouldn’t surprise me in a few years when Elon announces a Starlink phone. Take everyone away from cellphones entirely.

I second this!

That bloody 'we have many people' attitude. Good grief.

The 1996 incident is also horrifying

Do you have a source for that story about the girl.

@@modonohue9980 yes, of course. Almost all of the channels that report the news out of China here on RU-vid have it a simple search to locate them. I would give you the exact channel that I watched but they have already had several of their reporters accosted, beaten and jailed. The report, including video footage of both the booster in the father’s yard and the interview (translated) were included. It was even covered by Radio Free Asia. They are definitely worth the search. Not just for this incident but to get an idea of just how bad the population there has it, how disgruntled and disenfranchised they have become with the CCP but especially their Premier. They also have no love for the people their own age who support the CCP and call them “Little Pinks”.

@@modonohue9980 Believe it or not, my first reply which did not specifically name the source was deleted/blocked.

Might not work if they can't un-berth stuff. There is some consideration that metal surfaces pushed together in a vacuum can cold weld themselves together. It was a worry for Pirs when Nauka was launched to replace it.

Then it'll fly further and probably hit a more densely populated area.