There will be hundreds of Starships on Mars before NASAs nuclear powered ship gets there for the first time. Most Starship trips will be cargo anyway where it doesn't really matter how long the trip takes as long as there is a steady stream of ships going to Mars to establish a supply chain. SpaceX has had over 100 launches in the last 12 months. SLS is targeting one per year. The nuclear Mars ship will probably only go to Mars every 2-4 years. You can't build a supply chain that way.
Mars is much harder than going to the North Pole. StarShip is the best way to get there and one big problem is fuel. It's going to take SpaceX 9 StarShip launches to refill 1 Starship to make it to Mars. That means to put a mission to Mars, it will take an armada of StarShips to make the trip. An armada of 25 ships. That means 225 Starship launches. At about 40 million dollars per launch, it's going to cost 9 billion dollars just to fuel a mission.
can you possibly stop spouting COMPLETE bullshit? Do you know just how much a fraction of light's speed you'd have to be going to make it to mars in a DAY? Id love to know what kind of Fantasy material this ship is made of as a structural engineer. I've always loved vehicles made of Unobtanium. To make it in a day, thats 0.5% the speed of light.. or roughtly 5.4MILLION kilometers per hour AVERAGE speed, Remember half the time would have to be spent slowing back down. earth to the moon the fastest mission to date was about 40,000 kph. 135x faster? .. sorry. not happening. That number is also ONLY if earth is at its closest point to mars.
1.4 million miles per hour. And in a vacuum a beer can can theoretically withstand what friction would be imposed on the structure. Aluminum should be good enough. Not a imagined material from science fiction 😂
Russians already have a better solution for small nuclear engines and the prototype for the Marsian Express. The major problem is the radiation of biological passengers.
Most missions will be cargo which don't need fast transit times. A Mars colony needs frequent high mass cargo runs. SpaceX is geared for this. They will have a million tons of cargo on Mars before NASAs nuclear ship delivers one.
With all this new technology, we have why can’t we have solar powered rockets? Would that be possible? The sun could give us power all the way to Pluto with solar power have a back up from windMills on the Rockets also fuel.
No way NASA can accomplish something like that. SpaceX, yeah probably. But NASA is too much of a bureaucracy to really accomplish anything significant any more.
It's not exactly cheap to make innovations in rockets. Also, a lot of things you use in your daily life exist because of space innovation. Lastly, the NTP they are funding is innovation, no?
fact is at such as speed there would be bloody mush with g force lol we are not very dense but force is so this is another pipe dream you could use it for supplies and robots but people be there some time later if theres no accedents caused by human error lol
A nuclear fusion engine will not likely be an efficient launch engine, however, a Space X rocket could ferry a nuclear propulsion capable Mars craft into space where it could propel the space craft to speeds unseen. It would be wise to send several drone rockets to mars in advance with supplies, emergency supplies parts and electronics.
Finally someone is talking nuclear engines. Cut with the B S about chemical rockets. No way can we reach other planets and stay there without nuclear. I’m sure friends of the earth would it be against it even though nuclear material would exit the planet and never come back.😅
It takes 1 minute.45 seconds to get to the word "could". My preference for RU-vid videos is they should be categorised. It happened in the past It happened today or recently It might happen in the future. - It might happen in the future. There is no working example and it could take anywhere from 1 to 1000 years to happen. I might develop a time machine to travel to Mars, there again I might not. Algorithm, please only serve me things which have been at least tested and you have a working prototype.
I still think flipping four or more electrostatic ?! WAIT! that will come later Err-electromagnetic fields "Sections" strategically to provide enough velocity in any X, Y or Z direction as long as a nuclear generator is allowed, all it needs is enough energy ergo repulsion to double respective sections flipped field to double it's previous velocity. The trick is tying the bulk of the sections electromagnetically so that the section being repulsed is accelerated the most towards the desired direction, to which once moving is strategically electromagnetically recombined as part of the main mass to move the following section that is then electromagnetically flipped and accelerated, similar to "Mag trains" only the Main mass is electromagnetically established and reconfigured on the fly so that three sections repulse one section forward. To which at some point, the fields polarity would have to then be strategically reconfigured for the respective sections to provide deacceleration. Also consider a minimum of 4 X 4 X 4 sections all up 64 sections" so that X, Y, & Z acceleration and deacceleration is possible. Yeah much like those UPA's that are utilising at the molecular level the atoms electrostatic fields, which are energised and manipulated using the energy of hydrogen, yeah our system won't be as sleek for some time, and they will still rely on our extremely crude nuclear understanding, but hey one day, we will drop the current archaic theories on theoretical particles, which will then open the flood gate to a new error in physics.
I would say to the pessimistic that a working reliable nuclear engine may be pie in the sky to you but the point is this. If you don't open this avenue and someone else does then you are stuffed because you will be displaced big time ! And left way behind. So make room for some optimisim because the future without any could be catastrophic !
I'm all for increasing red tape in this area to restrict ANY POSSIBLE SPACE TRAVEL. Taking care of the earth, which we've never done is far more important than this bs.
Your thoughts are correct. That organization is nothing more than a tax money sponge and star-liner and SLS is boondoggle. NASA is now a bureaucratic dinosaur who can even get old tech to function with out billions of dollars and decades of wasted effort.
No, I just modified the plan. Freight and supplies will be there waiting for the light weight passengers even leave to join it. This can ALL BE DONE after my flying inflatable Mars aircraft explorer's picks a location. I'd say, Olympus Mons size indicates that the cavern's under it are what? 1/3rd the size of the mountain?
I'm sorry but your CLICK BAIT Headline is truly pathetic considering we have two astronauts stuck on the ISS because the damn ship has a bunch of problems. Why would anyone believe this?
Project NERVA, proposed and demonstrated a nuclear engine during the late 1950s. It worked exceedingly well. The fear of launching a fully functional nuclear rocket into space, with a chance of a launch radiation disaster, became too high an issue. Today would use a large chemical rocket to deliver the nuclear engine to LEO, and separately transport its fuel rods. Assembled them in space to avoid any launching issues. It's current plan in 2027 is to prove they can accelerate a "small" probe from LEO to the outer solar system. Any Mars missions would require a much larger system.
All this sounds good on paper, but creating the real thing will take much time and a lot of money before it comes operational. This happening in 2 or 3 years I don't see happening. More like 5-10 years or more. There is also the problem if the nuclear engine does not make orbit. What then? The other thing is we cannot send humans on a mission where the thrust exceeds 1 gravity. More than that would harm a normal human. Even at one gravity a mission to Mars will take more than a few days unless someone comes up with a way to cancel gravity. Only then could we push a space ship faster.
Being able to maintain a constant 1g acceleration would be ideal, because that would mimic surface gravity on Earth. It wouldn't be harmful to the astronauts at all. However, I'll only believe NASA has built such an engine when they successfully test fly one.
Right, because we have it SOOO hard. For the first time in human history we have running safe water, decent sanitation, food all around us, heated and cooled buildings, free entertainment 24/7 and the ability to ask (freely) for any information in the universe. We no longer die of scores of diseases and are so burdened we find time to spend an average of 7 hours/day in front of a screen. Tough life.
I heard such things many times. Unfortunately NASA nowadays can't make anything without subcontractors. Even their subcontractors can't make the things working as should. The biggest success is JSWT but it was postponed almost 10 years, and ate billions of dollars. Even during the launch, nobody was sure it will success for 100%.
Blue Origin and Boeing? Defo not a goer, then - NASA still stuck in the 70's! They still haven't paid me for not producing a rocket, the cheapskates! Thanks for the laugh, are you now registered as a comic site?
No one will acknowledge this, because they don’t believe it, personally I think we are already visiting the Stars, with Secret Black Ops Craft, anti Gravity etc. They will not admit this however, they prefer to dumb us all down with traditional Rocket technology, and to convince us they haven’t yet, managed to discover alternative methods, some of us know better though don’t we?!!
@@japfourme381 I absolutely agree with you. We make it to the moon 55 years ago and the computing back then was less than the phones we have in our pocket!!! Either they lied to us and we didn't go to the moon or they have been lying to us since the 70s!!! 50 years later and we can't even reproduce what we did in the late 60s???! It actually breaks my heart!! I was a little kid in the 80s thinking by the year 2000 or so we would traveling through our solar system and by today (2024) I thought we would be close to stuff we seen in Sci Fi!!! Something doesn't add up! What if the auto industry did the same?? It'd a been unacceptable but yet we don't question NASA? Idk, I wish I was filthy rich because I'd fund it myself . There is something really advanced flying around our skies and I don't think it's aliens! I honestly think it's what you stated and it's black projects.
Where to even start. HALEU exists now, this is still a Newtonian design, hydrogen is notoriously difficult to store (ammonia is interesting). Ultimately, this is just using fission to add to the chemical heat to add to the impulse. And the addition of EM engines seems to feel like science fiction. Bring back the bosses that know that the Orion drive is the way to go for nuclear drives.
If The PPR has 100000N or 10tf thrust and exhaust velocity 50,000m/s then the plasma escapes from the magnetic nozzle in about 1/10,000 seconds (assuming the nozzle size is about 5m). If the pulse frequency is 1 Hz and that thrust of 10 tf the force is the baverage thrust over time, then the force on the ship from a single pulse would be 10000*10tf = 100000tf..!!?? On the other hand, if the 10tf is a force of a single pulse on the nozzle, then the average force would be about 10tf/10000 = 10N.
To be fair space x isn’t even close to lunar missions much less mars. The amount of fuel the starship would require to get to the moon is staggering much less mars.
Oho boy the NERVA nuclear rocket project of the 50's 60's again we have a nuclear wasteland at jackass flats in nevada from those days the engine spitting fuel rods out the tail pipe and regular explosions they finally got working well sort of project rover was smaller but still this is nothing new and you need tons of shielding from the naked reactor spewing gamma rays on the crew thats heavy good luck stay out of my town with this one skippy 😊
Great, it should only take about 6 months for them to Burn thru $100 M, where will the funds to research and build it, and then need more funding to complete.
A chemical rocket can get to Mars in only 6 months, not 9. It requires 10% more propellant than a 9 month trajectory. The rovers Spirit and Opportunity were delivered with 6 month transit time.
Plenty of barren landscapes her on earth, no point in squandering billions for a risky manned mission when robotic landers have already shown us what is there.
If a rocket gets to mars in one day, how many months does it take to get in an orbit (with people) from that speed, same with light speed, with 10g brake?
@@Hotrumor uurgh. Very well. Allow me to rephrase the question. "Are these to be crewed vessels and if so would it be possible to endure to endure that kind of acceleration/ deceleration combination. Perhaps with something akin to the water chambers in; Event Horizon, or is it an impossibility at this moment in time." ?
@@jonbutcher9805 The projects in this video are about engine designs not a ship configuration, but yeah a ship using these could be manned. It would not have dangerously high acceleration.
@jackman5840 Id seriously dawt you would want to go and be one of the first people on Mars mate. It has literally fuck all on it. And you would be theirs for years. Probably even die their In ur inflatable tent and a rocket sat at the side of you with no fuel. Good luck
You are correct about radiation, but simple question : what is saving you from Sun's radiation? First Magnetic field of the Earth and Second Ozone layer, but mainly Magnetic field. So if your spaceship generates Magnetic field strong enough then you can exist in any kind of Medium.
@@semorgh2854 so the magnetic field of the the earth and the ozone layer protected any manned space travel in it?. And the Apollo rocket generated a strong enough magnetic field by using a chemical fuel?. In addition once you leave the belt you are open to the suns radiation and all stars radiation in the galaxy?. I realize that all the stars in galaxy would have a minuscule effect because they are far way but remember there are over 200 billion of them in our galaxy. Please explain. Thanks.
@@Comezehere Apollo rocket Never created any Magnetic field the Physical body of that rocket protected the astronomers. First of all I believe Aliens exist and their movement through the universe is with directional Magnetic field that they produce and that field interacts with Celestial entities of universe like Earth Moon, Sun and so on, this means Alien ships for example with Earth act like 2 Magnets (have you played with Magnets before?) , the Alien ship produces magnetic field that is the same polarity as North pole if the ship is in north pole to, this way the field of Earth throws the space ship away from north pole with a tremendous speed and if the spaceship is going to Mars it adjusts its magnetic field to opposite magnetic field of one of Mars poles so that Mars Pulls the spaceship. ----------- I hope I have explained enough. one other fact about real spaceships as you may have seen one is that they do not eject any burned fuel that is because they use Plasma in Liquid form which when you spin that plasma that is what creates Magnetic field around the ship and acts like a magnet and that field is as strong as Earth magnetic field which protects the spaceship from any kinds of Rays like Beta and Gama rays. the spinning plasma is PARAmagnetic which gets activated and grows its field as it SPINs, that is the reason they do not produce any SOUND and if they get close to you, you only hear the electrical motors that spin the plasma reactors. ---------------- in the videos that you see spaceships act like a magnet when they move near Earth and in fact they actually slide with in the atmosphere because they are interacting with Earth Magnetic field , Like 2 Magnets of the same pole when you take them close to each other they give you the feeling like they are sliding against each other.
We just need a "Zero Point Energy" like Earth ZPE which makes the Earth Spin and go around the Sun. If all the scientists say ZPE maybe they go after making it. with propulsion of any king that "DISCHARGES" you can only go to the edge of our solar system.
