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NASCAR takes victory away at Sonoma 1991 

Mark Traina
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45-second "Coming-Up" airs before the feature. This moment in 1991 was unprecedented in NASCAR. At Sonoma in 1991, race leader Ricky Rudd took the white flag, but on the next lap, NASCAR gave the checkered flag to the 2nd place car. Rudd was given the black flag (without any warning) and decided to put him back to 2nd place (even though he was the leader coming to the checkered flag) Rudd came down to our Charlotte studio and explained his take on that day. This Feature aired June 2009 on NASCAR RACEDAY. Produced and Edited by: Mark Traina

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@ethanweeter2732
@ethanweeter2732 4 года назад
Who would have thought Larry Mac be involved in NASCAR’s two most controversial finishes of all time?😅
@VoodooDangerbird
@VoodooDangerbird 5 месяцев назад
He’s juiced-in.
@whippersnapper6456
@whippersnapper6456 7 лет назад
Yup just like Regan Smith at Talladega. Stewart forced him below the line and he gets the win taken away which results in Carl Edwards flipping the following year.
@wa2436
@wa2436 7 лет назад
They wouldn't dare do that to Earnhardt. Different standards for different people. Rudd got screwed.
@nilla003
@nilla003 4 года назад
I remember that Davy didn't even take a victory lap but instead pull immediately into victory lane. He reasoned that once he had his picture taken there NASCAR couldn't change its mind.
@12121149
@12121149 5 лет назад
If that was the number 3 car,we would not be talking about it.
@bigboy3jv
@bigboy3jv 5 лет назад
Wrong,Sr got black flagged a few times.
@mattcampbell912
@mattcampbell912 5 лет назад
Jim Vinson not enough
@bigboy3jv
@bigboy3jv 5 лет назад
@@mattcampbell912 he didn't do anything any other driver didn't. They all do it, still to this day. He won more, that's the only reason he gets more recognition for it.
@DupontandLowesWarrior
@DupontandLowesWarrior 5 лет назад
Pocono 2000 was Karma a dish best served cold to Dale's Intimdating Style
@bigboy3jv
@bigboy3jv 5 лет назад
@@DupontandLowesWarrior what are you talking about?
@butchknouse8316
@butchknouse8316 6 лет назад
Dave Marcis was right behind them and he said it was a BS call.
@nilla003
@nilla003 4 года назад
Marcus should have moved over as soon as the leader caught him and this wouldn't have happened. That was a brand loyalty thing, in my opinion.
@davidford3968
@davidford3968 6 лет назад
I agree with Kyle Petty. They should have shown the BS flag on this one. That was just racing
@gaffneyrailroading1982
@gaffneyrailroading1982 4 года назад
As far as I'm concerned, it's over with. What's done is done, especially since Davey isn't here to defend himself.
@pumpkinking5174
@pumpkinking5174 3 года назад
@@gaffneyrailroading1982 There's nothing to defend. Davey didn't win.
@gaffneyrailroading1982
@gaffneyrailroading1982 3 года назад
Whatever the case, he isn't around to give his side of the story.
@justsomeguy6474
@justsomeguy6474 3 года назад
That was cheating and they got caught.
@goldenshark3182
@goldenshark3182 Месяц назад
@@justsomeguy6474 There’s no cheating, it’s called racing and they all do it to this day and it happened many times after that and the race wins are not taken away, it’s not consistent and it’s BS, Ricky got screwed.
@phaserramone257
@phaserramone257 5 лет назад
That was back in the days when all Chevys in nascar ( especially #3 ) had really strong front bumpers. R.I.P. Davey
@charleshornbeak9078
@charleshornbeak9078 4 года назад
Favoritism goes hand in hand with nascar. Just like Earnhardt. He can wreck anyone and it's fine, you put a bumper to him, and the world falls apart.
@rebelracing88
@rebelracing88 9 лет назад
I liked Davey, but Ricky got screwed on this one.
@user-mp9rd4hg8b
@user-mp9rd4hg8b 8 лет назад
+rebelracing88 Yeah, I sure do miss Davey. Amazing talent and just a nice guy.
@acruxkepler1211
@acruxkepler1211 7 лет назад
rebelracing88 NO Davey was the one Ricky Rudd tried to screw, he couldnt win legitimately so he wrecked Davey on purpose, Rudd didn't deserve to win like that, So if Rudd got screwed because he didn't get away with stealing a win from Davey Allison, Then Drivers can just wreck anyone they can't pass legitimately and go on to win or finish good, what kind of Racing is that? It's not clean racing, that's for sure.. What if someone wrecked Earnhardt Jr. like that on the last lap, would you feel the same way? be honest,
@rebelracing88
@rebelracing88 7 лет назад
Yes I would. First I'm not a Junior fan, and second rubbing is racing. How many times did Earnhardt crash somebody to win? NASCAR never took a win away from him did they? Rudd got screwed, and it was obvious Ricky blew the turn and didn't intentionally hit Davey.
@pp3k3jamail
@pp3k3jamail 7 лет назад
Acrux Kepler dude shut the fuck up how many times has Dale Earnhardt done this type shot and got the checkered flag spinning somebody out Terry Labonte 1999 comes to mind.
@acruxkepler1211
@acruxkepler1211 7 лет назад
MICOLE WHYTE that's irrelevant, should they have blacked flagged Earnhardt hell yeah they should have, and besides your acting like Nascar has never blacked flagged anyone because of excessive driving, they've sent many of cars to the rear for wrecking intentionally the key is was it intentional or an accident and in this race Rudd ran all over him intentionally no doubt and Nascar thought so too, that's why after the race Rudd kept saying it wasn't intentional because he knows that makes a difference and weither its on the last lap or the first it's NASCAR's prerogative to determine intent, so please if you want to debate intent then that's fine because your argument stinks any other way
@x-man5056
@x-man5056 4 года назад
Davey Allison was NASCAR's golden child at the time. Ricky was the bad boy. Ricky won this race by all all established precident and rules except for bias in the tower. There is no other honest way to say it.
@martyanderson6568
@martyanderson6568 8 месяцев назад
Good call by nascar, dirty move by rudd, should have raced him clean
@x-man5056
@x-man5056 8 месяцев назад
@@martyanderson6568 NASCAR ain't your sport. To confusing for you evidently. Tell Donnie and Bobbie I said hello.
@NoName-gv6pi
@NoName-gv6pi 14 дней назад
​@@x-man5056old fans lol
@x-man5056
@x-man5056 14 дней назад
@@NoName-gv6pi You should be so lucky.
@NoName-gv6pi
@NoName-gv6pi 14 дней назад
@@x-man5056 Nascar would die if they listen to you, just look at f1 there growing cause they change and there thee most popular motersport on earth. Don't be saying that" oh Nascar died when Dale died" cause that is ABSOLUTELY false. The most viewed Nascar season ever is in 2006 , lol get you head out your butt old geezer, Nascar don't need grampas like you here in my sport , go watch your stupid american dirt racing, let me as a European fan watch my sport thrive again.
@noahcoleman5556
@noahcoleman5556 9 лет назад
See? Even back in 1991, NASCAR made bad calls. Let's stop acting like NASCAR was perfect back in the 50's, 60's, 70's, 80's, 90's,and even early 00's. No sport is perfect- no sport WAS perfect. It didn't have as many flaws back then, but it still had flaws. Nevertheless, no matter what time period, I'll always love NASCAR.
@SWMP1523
@SWMP1523 7 лет назад
I agree, but their dumb decisions were way less common than they are now, but this one outranks any of the dumb calls i've ever seen in the past few years but not the worst in all of the sport's history
@dibble8994
@dibble8994 6 лет назад
No when there is controversy they just awarded Larry McRynolds’ team the win in the 90’s
@oscarjimenezsr.716
@oscarjimenezsr.716 5 лет назад
Well Nascar was more Dangerous in the 1950s than it is Today
@Ziggy_Moonglow
@Ziggy_Moonglow 3 года назад
Who ever said NASCAR was 'perfect' in any era hasn't paid attention to any era.
@SiVlog1989
@SiVlog1989 4 года назад
In a sport renowned for contact when racing, it's not surprising that reaction was mostly negative about the penalty for Ricky Rudd. Like S1apsho3s said, "in a move that has never been repeated before or since, NASCAR penalises Ricky Rudd with one lap for dumping Davey Allison,"
@DNSV-ex8of
@DNSV-ex8of 5 лет назад
Arguing about nascars inconsistentcy has been a Multipul decade thing. The constant rule changes have made it a circus.
@josephwilliams6172
@josephwilliams6172 7 лет назад
Rudd should have subtracted two numbers from his car number, painted his car black, grown a mustache, and argued to Nascar that he was rattling Davey's cage a little. Then he would have kept the win.
@raymiller6351
@raymiller6351 7 лет назад
LOL bring lil guy with a blonde hair do over wit him
@nathanwygal5526
@nathanwygal5526 5 лет назад
Right...
@iankhan4614
@iankhan4614 5 лет назад
Why don't they do this for people who fail post race inspection?
@jerryhopper1685
@jerryhopper1685 5 лет назад
Ricky could never pull that off LOL Only one big E #3
@tritontransport
@tritontransport 5 лет назад
​@@iankhan4614 under the old system they nailed them with points penalties and fines to take them out of contention or basically give them 5th place points and money for a first place finish but in the new stupid payoff format a wins a win so fines and points dont mean shit, Unless your Carl Long then they make the fine so absurd just to run you off. Meanwhile Gibbs Hendrick Childress Ganassi Menard and SHR must chuckle at 10 or 20K fines. They spend that much every day before lunch time
@dereka64
@dereka64 6 лет назад
Same ol' Nascar officials back then, but way better race cars. Watching those cars go around Sonoma makes me wish I was old enough to have seen them real time.
@bigrooster6893
@bigrooster6893 5 лет назад
I remember this like yesterday and I can remember being so pissed even though I was 10 years old.
@RedCard94
@RedCard94 7 лет назад
This is undoubtedly the WORST call that NASCAR has ever made.
@brentanic
@brentanic 6 лет назад
Red Card idk, 1990 N. Wilkesboro was pretty bad
@ringroundupcountout4167
@ringroundupcountout4167 6 лет назад
Wesley Johnson no he wasn't you been reported
@Chenglor91
@Chenglor91 6 лет назад
Wesley, way too far on your sarcasm.
@RowdyRide
@RowdyRide 6 лет назад
Chenglor91 it's not sarcasm.
@Grayson340
@Grayson340 6 лет назад
Hes a Kyle Busch fan... doesn't care about anybody but himself. Selfish Kyle reminds me of earnhardt. His comment is insignificant and meaningless
@weelgunny
@weelgunny 7 лет назад
NASCAR was cheering "go Davey go," and then Rudd took a shit on their party, and they weren't going to have it...
@AnomalousOne1401
@AnomalousOne1401 5 лет назад
For some reason, NASCAR never took kindly to Ricky Rudd. They treated him like the red-headed step-child early and often. What is shameful is that this incident sullies Davey Allisons reputation by association.
@mironkusnecov5728
@mironkusnecov5728 6 лет назад
Allison was the poster child for NASCAR. Not suprised they did that.
@Chives5150
@Chives5150 7 лет назад
Kinda funny that people are now making a fuss over the winning car failing post-race inspection and still keeping the win.
@6StrngWzrd
@6StrngWzrd 6 лет назад
Dale Earnhardt Sr. did this EXACT same thing 20+ times and was NEVER penalized. Complete Bullshit.
@Shockfactor22
@Shockfactor22 6 лет назад
Ric H Dale was mostly punished whenever it was irrefutable that he wrecked people on purpose. Most of the shunts (even the 1999 Bristol night race) Dale gave you can refute as Dale bumping them guy and them losing control. I'm an Earnhardt fan but when Rudd did this it was an absolute guarantee that he spun Davey on purpose.
@Shockfactor22
@Shockfactor22 6 лет назад
Ric H let's also not forget that road courses normally had section cautions for wrecks back then, like F1. They gave Rudd a time penalty, hence him still coming in second instead of going a lap down
@whoasked9500
@whoasked9500 6 лет назад
Rubbin's racin, Rudd should've won because in Nascar, that's fair game.
@robertbarth2367
@robertbarth2367 6 лет назад
What about all those times Dale Earnhardt spun guys out on the last lap and won, on purpose!
@godisgood1359
@godisgood1359 Год назад
Exactly!
@chadrobinson500
@chadrobinson500 7 лет назад
how many times did Earnhardt do the same thing and not get back flagged NASCAR kissed his ass
@trent82
@trent82 Год назад
once
@drbenmccullough2608
@drbenmccullough2608 6 лет назад
Rudd pulled a Earnhardt and lost the race
@randomfaca
@randomfaca 5 лет назад
If this happened in any other motorsport everyone would've agreed about the black flag. Only in NASCAR are you allowed to flat out dump the leader and win a race. That's a big reason why everyone else in the motor racing circuit doesn't take NASCAR seriously.
@TheLocalLt
@TheLocalLt 5 лет назад
theravenousbeast nascar is about contact dumbass it’s about drivers not engineers
@DupontandLowesWarrior
@DupontandLowesWarrior 5 лет назад
Japan 1990 proves that F1 Would disapprove this move
@x-man5056
@x-man5056 5 лет назад
This one still sticks in my craw. I promised myself if I ever met Ricky that I would tell him NASCAR owes him big time. Davey Allison was a very good driver but he was also NASCAR's golden boy at the time. Ricky was always seen as a bit of a Rebel, not endeared to NASCAR officialdom. Kyle Petty said it well. Bullshit flag.
@kennethkenney3965
@kennethkenney3965 9 лет назад
I am sorry for Davey but witnesses said Davey threw a failed block just as Ricky moved over Davey. Officials robbed Ricky Rudd. I know Ricky won this race and there is no doubt he won.
@Zoomer30
@Zoomer30 9 лет назад
Heck, if they applied the same rules over Irvans career or Dale Srs career they would have lost about 80% of their wins. Can count more than a few #3 wins that involved a car getting punted. I will say it would make the NFL so much more interesting if they ran the rulebook the way NASCAR does. "ok so when the Vikings have the ball they will need 12 yards for a first down but when the Saints have the ball all they wil need is 6 yards. "
@emartarkansastalks
@emartarkansastalks 9 лет назад
I'm a Vikings fan and you're right
@terrcurr
@terrcurr 8 лет назад
+Zoomer30 yes sir, you are sooooo right
@upminer6162
@upminer6162 8 лет назад
+Zoomer30 Nascar has no Union. They can do as they please.... Ask Jeremy mayfield.
@sprinkle581
@sprinkle581 7 лет назад
Sr got the win when his shitty self dumped Labonte at Bristol
@DDS029
@DDS029 7 лет назад
He tried for two years in a row. The year before he took him out coming out of 4, but Labonte, sliding sideways still beat him to the line. It was the next year Earnhardt did it in 2 so he would have time to get around TL for the win.
@Davehash
@Davehash 6 лет назад
2009 Talladega fall race. Last lap: Regan Smith and Tony Stewart coming through the tri oval to the finish. Regan Smith on the bottom Tony Stewart on top. Tony forces Regan below the yellow line which is illegal. They come to the line and Smith wins. NASCAR holds a meeting. Comes back saying Smith went below the yellow line so they take away the win and give it to Tony. Of course Smith was a rookie and Tony was a champion and running for the chase points. So there's another example of a driver being robbed of a win. A couple of years ago at Talladega in the Xfinity race Elliot Sadler was racing Brennan Poole and there was a wreck coming to the finish and Poole crossed the line first but NASCAR gave the win to Sadler because the caution lights came on while he was in the lead. Which NASCAR has never changed that rule. If the wreck is behind the leaders why can't they race to the flag? Doesn't make any sense. This is why people don't care about NASCAR anymore.
@TJHistory
@TJHistory 6 лет назад
Kaz Grala and Austin Cindric... Cindric drove through and wrecked Grala for the win. Should of been black flagged if following what happened here.
@GolfWang520
@GolfWang520 5 лет назад
Negative, all timing loops and the finish line are completely irrelevant when it comes to a caution flag on the final lap of a race.. if a caution is thrown before the final lap of the official distance, NASCAR officials refer to the timing loops or the finish line. If a caution is thrown on the FINAL lap of the official distance, they refer to video of the exact moment of the caution light. Elliot Sadler was ahead at the time of caution on the final lap of the official distance
@DupontandLowesWarrior
@DupontandLowesWarrior 5 лет назад
Talladega Has Lots of Unlucky Moments
@nelsonnelson4527
@nelsonnelson4527 4 года назад
That was 2008. Not 2009
@christianmotley262
@christianmotley262 Год назад
Is that why there’s a song about it?
@raymiller6351
@raymiller6351 7 лет назад
Ricky Rudd was a BAMF
@Guiltless765
@Guiltless765 6 лет назад
Ricky Rudd did a dirty move but no different than almost any Dale Earnhardt victory..
@NickyD
@NickyD 6 лет назад
amen and kyle busch
@Shockfactor22
@Shockfactor22 5 лет назад
# Guiltless Dale has 76 wins, so you van obviously name me at least 50% of his wins where he wrecked somebody and won the race, right?
@oscarjimenezsr.716
@oscarjimenezsr.716 5 лет назад
@@Shockfactor22 1993 Coca Cola 600 Dale Spun out Greg Sacks and got put a Lap Down but He came back and won the Race 1999 Goody's Headache Powder 500 He Wrecked Terry Labonte but got Booed for it
@Shockfactor22
@Shockfactor22 5 лет назад
Oscar jimenez 2 wins, give me 36 more instances. Since ya’ll wanna say Dale was a dirty driver.
@oscarjimenezsr.716
@oscarjimenezsr.716 5 лет назад
@@Shockfactor22 Atlanta 2000 During a Caution he got Pissed at His own Teammate Mike Skinner for racing Him Hard Dale would later win the Race as Skinner Blew up after Leading 195 Laps
@pomerlain8924
@pomerlain8924 4 года назад
I guess Terry Labonte is wondering where was the black flag for Dale at Bristol in 1999. This was just racing. Rudd didn't intentionally take out Davey. He came into the turn hot, Davey came down on him, they touched, and Davey spun. There was malice in what Ricky did. It was just the breaks of what happened. It happened in Nascar plenty times before, and plenty of times after. Ricky got screwed.
@reginaldhall6871
@reginaldhall6871 3 года назад
You said it, so now I don't have to. Earnhardt wrecked plenty & Nascar loved it
@FrosteeWusky
@FrosteeWusky 8 лет назад
Ricky Rudd should have 24 Sprint Cup Series wins. Come on NASCAR!
@aholegunner
@aholegunner 5 лет назад
You are soo correct. I was and still am the biggest Ricky Rudd fan. I love Ricky Rudd! I cried when he retired. He was one of the most unluckiest drivers ive ever seen but nonetheless, best racer I have ever seen. He is also a super honorable person. One of the nicest guys I have ever seen.
@DupontandLowesWarrior
@DupontandLowesWarrior 5 лет назад
Davey with 18
@aholegunner
@aholegunner 5 лет назад
@@DupontandLowesWarrior 🤘
@michaelm2998
@michaelm2998 2 года назад
Ricky Rudd is a very good honest man. Doesn’t complain too much even though most of us would never stop complaining!
@dishrod3516
@dishrod3516 3 года назад
From an Earnhardt fan they should give the win to Ricky no matter how many years ago it was.
@michaelfalkner1186
@michaelfalkner1186 8 месяцев назад
The problem is simple: NASCAR has encouraged wrecking the leader on the last lap, REPEATEDLY. If they believe he was wrecked deliberately, then absolutely the result should be reversed. That said, it's almost every Superspeedway race that there is a deliberate wreck on the last lap to decide the result and NASCAR looks like fools.
@EdwardGriffin
@EdwardGriffin Год назад
NASCAR blew it again.
@mistertheking
@mistertheking 5 месяцев назад
Kinda wish they did this more often. Drivers who can't pass cleanly for the win should not WIN the race.
@lucky-rowe2623
@lucky-rowe2623 5 лет назад
Larry has 2 wins that he doesn't deserve. That's crazy he is also the chief for Brett Bodine's bogus victory.
@connergrindstaff3683
@connergrindstaff3683 5 лет назад
Larry McReynolds, more like Larry McContriversey
@WVFreebyrd
@WVFreebyrd 6 лет назад
And yet today we "celebrate" Austin Dillon "winning" at Daytona for a much more blatant, dangerous and more obvious "dump". As I said below, this was the race that made me realize NASCAR wasn't on the up and up.
@affandi99
@affandi99 5 лет назад
@Brisdad53 correct, even the race itself are too much rigged for legacy sake...
@Laakerii
@Laakerii 7 лет назад
Damn those cars look good.
@thesuneversets
@thesuneversets Год назад
If that was Earnhardt instead of Rudd they wouldn’t have done jack
@jimmymishoe7968
@jimmymishoe7968 3 года назад
NASCAR has always played GOD it will be a great day to see them go under.
@mike4auburn91
@mike4auburn91 5 лет назад
Ricky wound up winning there later on in his career.
@pinnedthrottle7690
@pinnedthrottle7690 3 года назад
Rudd has two wins here, one at NASCAR’s inaugural race there in 89, and Ricky’s last career win in 2002. Ricky has 2 wins at each road course nascar has been to, but it would be 3 here at Sonoma.
@Racinrasslinfan36
@Racinrasslinfan36 6 лет назад
They did the same to Robby Gordon at Montreal in 2007
@oscarjimenezsr.716
@oscarjimenezsr.716 5 лет назад
Robby was Forced to go to the Back but Instead gets Revenge on Marcos and Gets Parked From Pocono the Following Day
@travishagan8951
@travishagan8951 3 года назад
Ricky was the original heal toe hero
@twistedaxles9126
@twistedaxles9126 4 года назад
The intro was utterly hallarious.
@rmitchell1
@rmitchell1 2 года назад
That's crazy. I would be pissed
@Daytonohrailfan
@Daytonohrailfan 8 лет назад
nascar was just mad bc it was not Dale sr doing the same move
@driver8703
@driver8703 Год назад
This isn’t BS, just year or so before they penalized Dale for like 4 laps for taking out bodine. They were being serious about this kinda thing cause of Dale and Geoff’s feud
@hamlinfanVA
@hamlinfanVA Год назад
It was a trash call...BUT lost in all of this is that this controversy would've never occurred if Dave Marcis who was off the pace of the leaders had just harmlessly moved out of the way and let the leaders pass and decide it among themselves. Instead he was an impediment and held Davey up through all of the esses.
@williamwilson480
@williamwilson480 2 года назад
Ricky Rudd won that race and 21 years later I still say he won that race but because Davey Allison was more popular back in 1991 they gave it to him
@jamesodell9382
@jamesodell9382 6 лет назад
I was covering this race and was in victory circle on the final lap and we heard what happened. Once victory circle had wrapped up I just kind of hung around nearby and shot exclusive photos for Circle Track of Waddell Wilson and Ricky Rudd making their case with one of the higher-ups of NASCAR - can't remember who right now. As the magazine worded it, these exclusive photos showing the protestations must have done some good as they made the call from DQ to second. The weirdest call I ever covered though a night race in Bristol - Dale vs.Terry - was close.
@dansmith8059
@dansmith8059 5 лет назад
Davey was NASCAR'S "POSTER CHILD"..If it happened the other way around, the win for Davey would have been upheld
@oreopuppydawg1564
@oreopuppydawg1564 6 лет назад
That call was almost as bad as stage racing!
@timcervantes2957
@timcervantes2957 4 года назад
John Smith hahaha oh that made my day. Stage racing is bull. Totally ruins the green flag pit strategy that made 500 straight miles of racing amazing. And the damn chase cost Gordon 3 championships (bet when he gets to heaven thats all Dale wants to talk to him about lol)
@hammerheadracingmedia3823
@hammerheadracingmedia3823 4 года назад
It ruined the all star race
@nelsonnelson4527
@nelsonnelson4527 4 года назад
More like allmthe times Brian France screwed dale Jr at talladega in 2004 and 2015
@gothard5
@gothard5 3 года назад
Shut up. Stage racing is awesome.
@oreopuppydawg1564
@oreopuppydawg1564 3 года назад
gothard5 I like a full race, like real nascar, not 3 or 4 tiny races, that sucks!
@davidbuschhorn6539
@davidbuschhorn6539 5 лет назад
That time NASCAR said, "Sorry you can't cheat and spin the guy in front of you to win anymore. The number 2 guy won't be the winner anymore if he rams the number 1 guy to pass."
@ronthomas7218
@ronthomas7218 5 лет назад
good thing that did not use that on earnhart or shit would have hit the fan BUT wait earnhart was Bill Frances boy he would not have done that to him ever
@davidbuschhorn6539
@davidbuschhorn6539 5 лет назад
@@ronthomas7218 I got bored of car racing when that became the norm back in the 1980s. You couldn't possibly win if you were the fastest driver because #2 would "accidentally" spin you into the wall in the last turn and then he'd go on to win. Every flippin' race the winner doesn't finish and no one says a word about the second place guy cheating his way to victory circle.
@oscarjimenezsr.716
@oscarjimenezsr.716 5 лет назад
@@davidbuschhorn6539 Bristol 1999
@michaelrunnels7660
@michaelrunnels7660 4 года назад
Many of us use to call Davey "Cry Baby Allison". He seemed to constantly be whining about how everybody done him wrong if he didn't win. He was NASCAR's Golden Boy, though, and given more slack than almost anyone else at the time. That's the only race in NASCAR history that was taken away from the winner, even though hundreds of races have been won in the exact same way, with over a dozen on that same track on the same corner. Davey was a damned good race car driver, though. I loved to watch him race, but couldn't stand to listen to his interviews.
@MileyonDisney
@MileyonDisney 7 лет назад
They were probably sitting in their suite with a Texaco big oil exec at the time of the decision.
@aholegunner
@aholegunner 5 лет назад
Damn straight! What is funny is that Texaco/Halvoline was Ricky Rudds next sponsor after the tide sponsor. I think its odd.
@DupontandLowesWarrior
@DupontandLowesWarrior 5 лет назад
They Did That Shit with GM Goodwrench at Richmond in The Spring of 1990
@aholegunner
@aholegunner 5 лет назад
@@DupontandLowesWarrior Did exactly what im sorry? Just curious exactly what you mean.
@DupontandLowesWarrior
@DupontandLowesWarrior 5 лет назад
@@aholegunner Texaco: It's been Said That Davey Was Nascar's Golden Boy Back Then as Chase Elliott is The Sport's Current Golden Boy The Fact Yates monitored Nascar Was Odd beyond me Rudd bumps Davey and Gets Black Flagged for Their Own amusement GM Goodwrench Service Plus: Mark Martin wins Richmond But Has an infragment in His Ford Thunderbird Dale Earnhardt Sr and Richard Childress Show This Shit To Nascar Taking 46 Points Away from #6 Folgers Coffee Car without The Penalty Mark Would've Been The 1990 Champion By 20 Points and Sr Would Only Have 6 Titles These are 2 of the Many Reasons Nascar Has Played Favorites Over The Years
@44hawk28
@44hawk28 3 года назад
Exactly why NASCAR started losing viewership. It was bad enough when you ban Mopar engine because Ford and General Motors couldn't make anything to compete. When that engine finally came back it was once again dominant. And then after Chrysler left NASCAR for a while they did everything in their power to keep them from coming back in.
@formercoach1202
@formercoach1202 5 лет назад
I find some of the comments entertaining to say the least. At some point organizations realize that they have simply gone too far with a penalty. This was NASCAR's example with a black flag for avoidable contact while racing for the lead. Notice you haven't seen that penalty called again. This is similar to the death penalty in major college football. After the NCAA handed SMU the death penalty for 1 season (the second year was self imposed by SMU due to severe restrictions that would have been in place) the NCAA realized the cost of the penalty was simply too great and no program, no matter how deserving, has been handed the death penalty again. (There has been discussion about it for a couple programs within the NCAA Infractions Committee, including Alabama in the early 2000's, Penn State Miami (Florida), and USC. ) NASCAR's penalty at Sonoma that day rose to that level and that's why you haven't seen that penalty handed down since. NASCAR knew it was wrong after the fact and couldn't change it. It was also similar to the penalty handed to Mark Martin in 1990. They penalized him a bunch of points that ended up costing him a championship. Subsequent violations of the same rule have not resulted in the points penalty anywhere near as severe.
@WVFreebyrd
@WVFreebyrd 7 лет назад
This was when I first realized the NASCAR powers that be weren't/aren't on the up and up. Of course 25 years later they are so blatantly manipulating race outcomes....in fact the entire season.......it's just taken as a given.
@zackhenderson4995
@zackhenderson4995 5 лет назад
How about the bizarre Brett Bodine win from the year previous. Larry Mac was the crew chief then, too. Makes you wonder what kind of blackmail he had on the Frances back then...lol.
@gothard5
@gothard5 3 года назад
Disagree completely
@Guiltless765
@Guiltless765 6 лет назад
Coming from a Davey Allison fan that's just messed up.. Ironically not far in the future Ricky Rudd would drive the #28.
@PerryWhyte
@PerryWhyte 5 лет назад
Indeed Rudd's last win would be in the 28 car at this track.
@JSchaffer214
@JSchaffer214 4 года назад
Man, NASCAR seemed to have it out for Ricky Rudd back in the day. I watched the last race at Richmond before the reconfiguration in spring 1988 and there was a really inexcusable scoring error in that race. Neil Bonnett was given the win but a review proved that he was actually a lap down and Rudd should've been awarded the win. Instead of doing what was right and giving the win and points to Rudd, NASCAR just left it alone and Bonnett kept the win, the points and the winning purse.
@DupontandLowesWarrior
@DupontandLowesWarrior 4 года назад
I Think Nascar Giving Bonnett The Win Was Basically saying Sorry To Him for Robbing Nashville 1984 from Him
@RRaquello
@RRaquello 9 лет назад
NASCAR has always played favorites. This was before Hendrick was Hendrick. They were already a big team then but not what they later became, and Yates was bigger at that time. If this happened now with a Hendrick car, no way they would have taken the race away from them. Rudd takes the blame here, saying it was his fault, but it looks to me like Davey came down on Rudd in an attempted block, so was at least as much to blame. An obvious BS decision. Now if this became a standard policy after this race, then you can say, "OK, NASCAR changed the rule book", but it didn't and they didn't, so it was a made-up, one-time decision to affect one race, one driver, one team and one circumstance, which makes an impartial observer think not everything was on the level, and anyone who doesn't realize there isn't a whole lot phony about NASCAR hasn't been watching the sport long enough.
@pp3k3jamail
@pp3k3jamail 7 лет назад
RRaquello can't count how many times Dale Earnhardt senior did this and got the checkered flag but they took this when from Ricky Rudd
@Caterpillarjon
@Caterpillarjon 7 лет назад
RRaquello Yeah, Davey was their golden boy then.
@NickyD
@NickyD 6 лет назад
dalr sr and kyle busch also come to my mind big time they both did ten times worse
@davidrivera9743
@davidrivera9743 5 лет назад
Bristol or Martinsville it would be simply be called Bump and run . Play by the same rules unless common sense says otherwise. NASCAR when they screw up, screws up big time.
@DupontandLowesWarrior
@DupontandLowesWarrior 5 лет назад
They've played Favorites with Toyota in the Latter Half of 2017
@mikep.6939
@mikep.6939 Год назад
As a die hard Rudd fan in those days , I found this whole thing ridiculous. The races year after year are won constantly on one guy bumping into another guy on the final lap . So stupid for any true Nascar fan to even doubt Rudd’s win here . Another reason I completely stopped watching the sport after he retired !
@davidrivera9743
@davidrivera9743 5 лет назад
Bump and Run. If this was Bristol or Martinsville it would NEVER be looked at any other way than racing.
@LUIGI-gx8bf
@LUIGI-gx8bf 4 года назад
I like how Dave Marcis actually witnessed the incident right in front of him
@thomasatchley9583
@thomasatchley9583 5 лет назад
Robert Yates screwed Ricky Rudd out of that win. There’s other incidents in racing where there’s other drivers getting spun out on purpose but yet NASCAR doesn’t do anything about but fine the driver.
@oscarjimenezsr.716
@oscarjimenezsr.716 5 лет назад
1999 Bristol Night Race
@thomasatchley9583
@thomasatchley9583 5 лет назад
Oscar jimenez 2009 Aaron’s 499 at Talladega
@oscarjimenezsr.716
@oscarjimenezsr.716 5 лет назад
@@thomasatchley9583 Fuck Brad
@thomasatchley9583
@thomasatchley9583 5 лет назад
Oscar jimenez I agree. Carl Edwards has that race won and Brad drafted up to his rear bumper and turned him and sent him flying into the catch fence and into Ryan Newman
@oscarjimenezsr.716
@oscarjimenezsr.716 5 лет назад
@@thomasatchley9583 Brad's a Dipshit
@squirtsboytoy
@squirtsboytoy 6 лет назад
You suppose they would have made this call had the positions been reversed? Yeah, I doubt it, too.
@KennethMixson
@KennethMixson 5 лет назад
I was a Davey Allison fan at that time but Ricky Rudd won this race. This is one area in where NASCAR gets it wrong. They have their favorite driver and will help him get by but not another racer. It is obvious. If they enforce a rule on one driver enforce in on all drivers. The Joey Logono incident with Matt Kenseth a couple of seasons ago is another example of this. This is one reason NASCAR is losing fans. I love racing but I don't go anymore because of the favoritism shown to some and not others.
@vinewood8295
@vinewood8295 9 лет назад
I remember watching this race live & cheering for Davey. Then the spin & I was heated, then they said Davey was gettin the win & I was like WHAT, REALLY? I can think of at least 2 other times that shouldve happened, 1989 Holly Farms 400 again with Rudd but that time he spun Earnhardt & the 2013 truck road race in Canada when Elliott spun Ty Dillon...
@NascarMicci
@NascarMicci 6 лет назад
Why should Earnhardt have gotten the win at NW in '89 when the spin was his own fault?
@ihavefallenandicantreachmy2113
Because he was so intimidating, or some shit, like that.
@rusrog
@rusrog 5 лет назад
If they pulled wins due to bump and run... You would have trouble finding a true winner in every NASCAR race. This one was a BS move by NASCAR. What would you think about Earnhardts move on Terry Labonte at Bristol? Think NASCAR was going to pull a win from Earnhardt? Me either...
@DupontandLowesWarrior
@DupontandLowesWarrior 5 лет назад
Cut to 2019 where Chase has 5 Cup Wins while Ty's best cup finish was 6th at Daytona Twice
@jarredwalker9919
@jarredwalker9919 4 года назад
"I'm just fed up with this mess."
@dylanhills3244
@dylanhills3244 3 года назад
A perfectly accurate description of how I feel at work every day.
@trevorphippsvlogs5176
@trevorphippsvlogs5176 7 лет назад
thats bs they never did that to dale sr
@moviewriter93
@moviewriter93 5 лет назад
Because they were afraid of him
@bigboy3jv
@bigboy3jv 5 лет назад
Yes they did
@oscarjimenezsr.716
@oscarjimenezsr.716 5 лет назад
@@bigboy3jv 1988 Coca Cola 600 Dale Spun out Geoff Bodine and got a 5 Lap Penalty 1993 Coca Cola 600 Spins out Greg Sacks and got put a Lap Down but He came back and won the Race 1995 Goody's 500 Spins Rusty and Got put to the Back but came back to Finish 2nd to Texas Terry after Spinning Him to the Line
@nelsonnelson4527
@nelsonnelson4527 4 года назад
@@oscarjimenezsr.716 I bet that they would stop the race and award the win to a driver like dale Jr chase Elliott or haley degan if someone spun one of them out and last time I checked Brian Vickers never got black flagged after wrecking dale Jr and jimmie Johnson at talladega in 2006
@oscarjimenezsr.716
@oscarjimenezsr.716 4 года назад
@@nelsonnelson4527 Brain Vickers is a Douchebag can't forget his Chickenshit behavior at Martinsville 2011 and Phoenix 2 Weeks Later (Mainly towards Kenseth)
@jimmymyers1152
@jimmymyers1152 3 года назад
If davy had been a real sport he would have refused this win thats all i got to say about this I remember watching this race they treated Ricky wrong period
@davidwilmotsghost7341
@davidwilmotsghost7341 3 года назад
Larry McReynolds, "We're doubting that we won this race." You didn't win this race Larry. NASCAR gave you this race. You know it and you've known it for 30 years. How you can count this as a win to this day is a joke. I know it's been 30 years but it still irritates me. Not that I hold grudges.
@Caterpillarjon
@Caterpillarjon 7 лет назад
At the time of this race, Davey was NASCAR's golden boy. They got pissed someone spun their favorite, dropped the hammer. I've been watching this sport since the early eighties as this was and still is the worst call I've ever seen.
@jonathan_tong93
@jonathan_tong93 5 лет назад
The 1991 Banquet Frozen Foods 300 at Sonoma Raceway was notorious for Ricky Rudd not having a road course victory. The race, which was won by the late Davey Allison, was produced by SilverStar Communications, Inc. and aired via tape delay on GMA Radio-Television Arts on June 10, 1991 at 2:30 P.M. right after Goodyear NASCAR Today with Rico Hizon and Bobby Guanzon
@Lycan_Jedi
@Lycan_Jedi 7 лет назад
List of names who have done the same thing to win and nothing happened. Kyle Busch, Dale Earnhardt, Brian Vickers, Brad Keselowski, Jeff Gordon, Tony Stewart, Terry LaBonte, Matt Kenseth, Kevin Harvick, Carl Edwards, Bobby Allison, John Hunter Nemacheck, Rusty Wallace. Where's their black flag NASCAR?
@itslife101getit5
@itslife101getit5 7 лет назад
Lycan_Jedi Gameplay Jimmie fan aren't you
@kylebushisaass5896
@kylebushisaass5896 6 лет назад
Lycan_Jedi don't forget Denny hamilin
@Shay_Mendez
@Shay_Mendez Год назад
Here we are all those years later and Denny Hamlin got his win taken away after the race was already over
@rcdyer
@rcdyer 4 года назад
NASCAR finally had enough of Rudd pulling this kind of shit so they sent a message. Right or wrong it is was what it was. BTW I have seen this kind of action many times at lower division racing all over the west coast after a driver dumps another on the last lap so it happened finally in the bigs.
@len-zeplin480
@len-zeplin480 4 года назад
NASCAR IS The Professional Wrestling of Motorsports. Rudd "Lou Albanoed" Allison on That one. The only thing missing were the Wood Splinters from the Chair!!!!!
@davecarsley8773
@davecarsley8773 4 года назад
Wow... This is bizarre. What a terrible call by Nascar. Why the hell would they black flag Rudd??? Like Kyle Petty said, this SAME THING happens almost every single race! Holy crap. Was there a substitute race director that day?!?
@samdilworth1989
@samdilworth1989 Месяц назад
Rudd should have let Davey catch up then pass him again. Then Nascar couldn't say it wasn't clean.
@apollomorelos727
@apollomorelos727 6 лет назад
That's NASCAR for you.
@mirkobarbarino5295
@mirkobarbarino5295 7 лет назад
Davey was awesome and I'm still a big fan of him, but Ricky should have won. You can't black flag someone because they spun the leader out, it's just pure hard racing. While I'm happy Davey won, Ricky had the win fair and square.
@connergrindstaff3683
@connergrindstaff3683 5 лет назад
@Brisdad53 Davey did cross the line second
@DupontandLowesWarrior
@DupontandLowesWarrior 4 года назад
Even Davey's Own Fans admit he didn't win it at all
@Dupontman627
@Dupontman627 День назад
Austin Dillon got his win taken away
@kgerych2112
@kgerych2112 День назад
Wrong, the win still stands but his playoff eligibility based on winning Richmond is revoked
@harleylif1929
@harleylif1929 4 года назад
This was the beginning of the down word swing of NASCAR. They keep doing dumb things and fans quit coming.
@frankshuffitt3925
@frankshuffitt3925 2 года назад
Kyle was right if they would do for everyone it be fine but they don't. Ricky wasn't a dirty driver. Nothing against Davey.
@malikdigger4544
@malikdigger4544 5 лет назад
Black flag on Rudd for making a good move Davery Alison to me that's just good road course racing
@oscarjimenezsr.716
@oscarjimenezsr.716 5 лет назад
Just a Hard Racing Deal
@TheCgraham18
@TheCgraham18 2 года назад
Imagine how many times since this happened race “winners” could have been black flagged. I loved and miss Dale Earnhardt but he was notorious for spinning people to take wins
@TheDCGuitar13
@TheDCGuitar13 5 лет назад
Rudd beat Davey into that corner just like keselowski beat eadwards into the taladega turn.
@rowdysmoke1466
@rowdysmoke1466 7 лет назад
I have no words to describe how stupid NASCAR's call was.
@markchamberlain5693
@markchamberlain5693 7 лет назад
It was BS and its BS today!
@mulehead3697
@mulehead3697 2 года назад
Nascar is their own governing body, so they can do whatever they want! Wrong right indifferent.
@harleylif1929
@harleylif1929 6 лет назад
The years of bad calls by NASCAR is one of the reasons NASCAR is not doing well.
@kalm6565
@kalm6565 6 лет назад
Ricky won that race. Fight me
@connergrindstaff3683
@connergrindstaff3683 5 лет назад
I think Dave Marcis won that race
@CharlesB9496
@CharlesB9496 7 лет назад
Ohh it happens when Rudd does that, but when keslowski pulls some shit like that and almost kills tons of people, he still gets the win
@connergrindstaff3683
@connergrindstaff3683 5 лет назад
If you are talking about Talledega 09 that was totally Carl's fault
@terrypowers7806
@terrypowers7806 2 года назад
Always liked the tide car, especially when D.W. drove it.
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