@@johnjohnson-hz5si I think its just activism here. Making unrealistic demands to pamper the public Image. I mean, its Natalie Portman, a Master of selfpromotion.
You are absolutely correct! But if the media pushed women athletes like they push male athletes people would care to watch. I don’t care I don’t watch sports I find it boring 🥱
@@javiruiz8365 It's about demand. Medias follow demand. That's why they shove Kim Kardashian down my throat, because lots of people are into hearing about her. Sales of Jersey of the guy Taylor Swift is dating went up because of the following she has. Medias follow popularity. They call people who follow stars on social medias followers, truth is, they are leaders. They lead the brands. Same on social medias, brands will flock to popular account holders to get more people to purchase, but these people have to be interested first! And the account holders have to generate interest.
In women's basketball, they play way less games and less minutes. That's one of the reasons why they don't get paid as much as the men. Plus the viewership matters too
Portman said in the 2000s, that she sees female actresses who are acting because of the money as "prostitutes". A few years later, she complained that she received only a third of the paycheck her male counterpart received in "No Strings Attatched"....Well....Calling actresses who take roles that don’t appeal to them ‘prostitutes’, throwing an accomplished career artist under the rug so you can look impressive in your little Oscar campaign, and spending years dissing the very fans that made you…is all very much ‘snobbism’, I’m afraid.
There is no “gender” restriction in what is called “men’s” sports. They are open to anyone who can compete. They get more money because they are the pinnacle of performance.
@@janos5408They bring in nothing. It is all just ads. Also: they are basically unemployed - and live from the goods and services we workers make...while they make nothing for us... that's why I would never do any job for a soccer player. Instead I will do work for PC gamers - because I enjoy watching them playing and teaching me how to play to have fun.
The reason why women athletes mostly in Soccer and Basketball leagues make so little compared to their male counterparts is because of popularity and the events don't pull in the same amount of money. Women sports needs time to grow and build a fandom and popularity. Men's leagues have been around forever. It's like trying to create you own video sharing site like youtube, many have tried and may still be around but they cant really compete as a competitor.
When women play best of 5 in Grand Slam events they will deserve equal pay. Lets not even talk about the fact that women's sports bring in less ad revenue, less ticket sales. Sport is a business.
Not even. The “Ladies’” bracket is limited to only ladies. The other bracket, which we call “men’s”, is actually open to anyone regardless of gender or sex.
Why don't people understand? The pay is based on sales and how much revenue the league makes. Why should women make the same and bring in half the amount of men and expect to get the same? Doesn't work like that, feminists.
Well it isn't really because they're paid before revenue, so it's rough projection. Pay is also mostly dictated by agents who often don't advocate enough for women. If there is a woman in a film along with a man two leads, how do they decide which of them had drawn more people in. They do the same job and should be paid simarly. Increasing the pay would also increase the prestige, which would draw in better and better people more hype, and more money. They spend less on the advertising and hype and dont talk women's contributions up enough. If they started giving weight and value along with cash to the female counterpart jobs, then they would start making fst more money from it and it would easily begun to justify the increased wages. But noone drums up the excitement for women in the same way. Its always aeen as an afterthought.
Every player or actor is paid individually different wages. They aren't calculated based on the revenue they will individually bring in. They also make as much if not more from endorsements. It isnt as simple as high revenue=higher pay.
@@Smarterthanyewbecause there is no excitement in most of women's sports unless it's tennis or UFC or Olympics. No one wants to see the WNBA to only see layups...or women's soccer that got destroyed by the u16 boys team. By your logic, those boys should be paid as much as full grown women. Please stop with your idiocy. Maybe go and advocate for men models who make less than their female counterparts
Stranger: “Natalie, why don’t you just multiply all your players’ salaries by 10x and solve what you perceive to be a problem?” Natalie: “Well, the team/league/sport doesn’t generate enough revenue to warrant me paying them that much. I’d be losing way too much money compared to what I get in return.” Stranger: “EXACTLY!!!”
Well, she sold a majority share of Angel City FC last week to Bob Iger for 250 Million Dollars. I think I know now where these potential salaries went....
So ill informed about pay in women's sports. She advocates for women who play soccer, basketball etc.to make millions but its ok for teachers to make $75k a year at work at Amazon on off season. Sorry go away.
In a few years: Aleph Milepied asks his Dad: „Dad, If I told you I was gay, would you still love me?“ Benjamin Millepied: „Aleph, Dont be silly son, you were just an Oscarbait. I never loved you in the first place.“
Yes, they claimed she did 90% of the dancing which is the main reason she won the Oscar 2011. Sarah Lane ( the real Ballerina in 95% of the scenes) was told to not give any interviews until after the Oscars because of her truthful claims that she did all of the full body shots. The people on the Oscar committee also stated that if they had known beforehand that Natalie didn't do the hard stuff then they would not have voted for her to win the Oscar that year because they based it on her acting talent coupled with her dancing abilities, which she really didn't have. Tell me how that's fair to the ballet world. These professional ballerinas train for years and years where Natalie tried to take credit for training for a year and a half.
Female athletes aren’t paid the same as male athletes for the same reason that male models aren’t paid the same as female models. It isn’t sexism. The free market determines what your value is and people just don’t watch or enjoy women’s sports as they do men’s so the money isn’t there. Basic economics. Now stop with the nonsense!
It's time this show shut down. With all the hate that spews from Joy and others . It's been on to long. It used to be a good show with Barbara Walters.
Well, once women start watching women's sports, they'll make more money. As it is, if I ask a random woman on the streets if she'd rather watch the NBA or the WNBA, 99/100 times they'll say the NBA. 😂
Caring and knowing simple supply and demand are 2 different things. She should be advocating for more people, mostly women, to support female sports so they can get paid equally
She’s a good example of elite connections, a pretty face, and a decent manager. And there’s a looong list of poorly thought out stances she’s taken and been vocal about. She’s living in a very cloesd off and small world from some of her remarks.
Poor old woman. Vacations in greek, dinners in Paris, Fashionshows in Venice, Businessdeals in Los Angeles....but looking like she is only a few years away from her grave.
A few years ago I found out I was being paid less than a brand new male employee fresh out of college and no prior experience. I have several years of experience and a college degree just to find out he was being paid more than me. I had at that point at my job 8 years. Same job but since he’s male he gets paid more. I complained and tried going through the proper channels to get paid better. I was pretty much ignored and a female supervisor said it happens everywhere and I should be used to being paid less. I retorted I thought I worked at a reputable company that values both men and women equally. I’m glad Natalie is speaking out. I felt silenced and unheard.
This is how the world works it has nothing to do with your gender you smoothbrain. You were there for 8 years and never left so why would they pay you more. When they hire someone new they need to incentivize them to come work at company. You should be job hopping every few years if you want more pay. Again nothing with your gender its more the size of your brain.
@@user-ii7ze9yl9jfunny, I work in Pharmacy and had a male pharmacist who was at his job for 20 years. Come in a new pharmacist, female and younger, and she got paid more even though he has double or more her experience. It can work both ways. And fyi...when it comes to sports it's how much revenue one brings in. Do a simple search and you'll see the difference in World Cup, women's basketball and many others. I don't see you advocating for men's rights in the modeling industry when women get paid more for the same job. It's all about supply and demand. Please learn the difference
As a woman, this is stupid. Regardless of gender, the popularity of the sport and the viewers it attracts should determine pay. Men’s sports are amazing to watch, and unless women’s sports get there, this argument is absurd.
Natalie Portman is a smoothbrain. This would be like saying all actors should get equal pay its what you bring in. Caitlyn Clark is bringing in more money to WNBA but the league is still losing millions every year even with money from NBA so you want her to make the same as NBA players?
@hallking7441 you clearly dont understand how dark and sick the industry is. Most people abuse multiple substances to get through their "careers". They have insane rates of STI and their life expectancy is insanely low.
Joy is so refreshing. She asks questions that are so ingsightful, I feel like woopie gets loss in her own thoughts, it triggers me a lot because I watched old interviews of her where she’s like top notch at getting her point across.
Portman is not really popular anymore today. She still is having starpower, but every time she is saying something about politics or society, she ends with a food in her mouth....
Exactly! But if the media promoted women athletes like they promote male athletes more people would watch. I personally don’t care because I don’t watch sports at all
Equal pay? Without question or revenue from popularity? So you are saying that they are both equals no matter? I would LOVE to see an amalgamation of male and female sports. Lets see some women in the NFL and NHL. Lets see how equal we both are.
For me, now I don’t have anything against women playing sports but men and women should always play in segregated leagues. What I mean by segregated leagues is men play against men and women play against women.
Are you telling me that all female athletes in a team make the same amount of money? Or that all of you on the view get iqual pay? Hypocrites. But she is not saying anything about iqual biology/genetelia on women sports right?
Portman is mainly concerned about that SHE gets the most of the money. I dont believe her, she always seems like a hypocrite since the Black-Swan-Controversity back then in 2011.
Natalie is all about grievance, an attitude that probably made her ex-husband stray in the marriage to find a woman that could give him the emotional nurturance he is worthy of. Ouch Natalie, the truth hurts.
Millepied is having a reputation as a "User". Someone from the Paris Opera leaked the information years ago, that Millepied is known to have cheated on Portman with a number of company dancers while he was director there (including at least one dancer he promoted). Word was there were pictures in one case, and a payoff was involved to keep them out of the public domain. His behavior was one of the main reasons he was forced out of the job so quickly.
When you can compete at the talent level men do then it will go up .Oh and instead pushing for equal pay why dont you push for Women only in womens sports
@@Kaisforeignadventures In the context of another woman believing her self worth is married to her looks,yes. In terms of personal choice you already know hence why you asked.
@@gandhiangles3213 That still doesn't answer my question. What does her getting plastic surgery have to do with you? Her self worth has to do with her and zero to do with you so maybe you should mind your own business? Just a thought.
5:55 The women don’t make as much in the World Cup because the women’s World Cup doesn’t make as much money. Full stop. If they drew more and sold more tickets, then they would make more. 🥱🥱🥱 So tired. Next. 🙄
@@surlespasdondine That’s fine, but she doesn’t play. However… more power to her. Is she somehow going to make the games more exciting to watch for new fans? Also, is she going to work on other countries’ willingness to promote women’s soccer more as well? And pay more for it? Good luck. 🤷♂️
Tv deal. Merchandise sales. Sry but this is why men get paid those ridiculous numbers. There’s going to be a global return on investment. That said, I’m a of the belief that athletes get paid too much. I’m sorry you’re playing a sport. ‘No reason why you should be getting paid more than a doctor
In women's basketball, they play way less games and less minutes. That's one of the reasons why they don't get paid as much as the men. Plus the viewership matters too
Well, her Angel City FC is at least quite sucessfull in terms of public attention. She sold a majority share to Bob Iger last week for 250 Million Dollars.