Seconded. Over here, Geoff Marshall (Transport channel) is becoming "known" to the movers and shakers in the UK transport industry, producing some superb and informative interviews.
That's cool from National Geographic to have done that. Always been a fan as well since my childhood, National Geographic made me dream of exploring this wild world.
Couldn't have said it better myself. That senior cartographer is a genius, I already wanna buy those books and I only just looked at them. Think they sell globes?
I recently started a job fishing out on George’s bank and whenever I’m asked I’ve had to vaguely point to that patch of ocean and say roughly here so cool that it’s finally been added to the maps. Also I had no idea it was so recently above water. Thanks for the info and well done on another great video.
And yet, it seems to have been disappearing throughout the 1800s. Since the areas formerly under the last glacial maximum's ice cap have been rebounding continuously ever since the glaciers left those lands, you would think that it would be rising yet higher, making larger islands. This suggests that sea levels have been rising since before the Industrial Revolution and that it has been an ongoing process since Doggerland was above water and occupied by ancient peoples.
I don’t think Zealandia will ever be a designated feature in such atlases. Simply because there is a much more important feature above water right in the middle of it: the islands of New Zealand. Instead of draping the name Zealandia or Zealandian Plateau right over the island chain and its surrounding plateaus, it would be way more effective to just mark New Zealand and its surrounding plateaus. Just like the European Continental Shelf is not designated as such, but broken up into the North and Baltic Sea, the English Channel, the Irish Sea and so on and so forth.
Great and interesting point! I guess the counter to that would be that New Zealand as part of Zealandia is smaller than what Europe is to the European continental shelf Making the submersed portion more prominent there than compared with any other continental shelf. But I think I still agree with you.
National Geographic gave me 2 World Atlases for winning my state's Geography Bee twice in 1995 and 1996 (as they did to every state winner). I ended up winning 3rd at the National Geography Bee in 1996. I've thought they were the best World Atlases ever since! They were the most up-to-date atlases available at the time, too, but I knew I'd eventually need to get them updated. If only I could afford new ones now!
These videos seriously reactivate that little kid in me that used to love just reading any dictionary, encyclopedia, or atlas I could get my hands on regardless of what they covered.
Your excitement makes me excited. I think I want to pick up both of these. I’ve traveled to many places on earth and I love seeing them mentioned on maps. My wife and I have a NatGeo wall atlas and we’ve pinned our adventures on it. It’s quite the pin cushion. It’s currently in storage in the US while we’re on travel and awaiting a long needed update! I can’t wait to explore these books too
I am sure you all watched „The North Sea Tsunami“ on Geographics, where live and death on Dogger then Island is covered 😌. Thx for another wonderful video 😊👍
Badwater more like Backwater (of Martian atlasing heh) (No but FR: jokes aside, please make room for more extraplanetary "geography" in future, its both such a GIANT realm criminally underexplored AND also simultaneously just way up your cosmic alley ❤)
Oh man, that's so cool of NatGeo to reach out! Even I feel giddy and I'm not even involved xD I 1000% look forward to your future videos, keep up the great work! Plus I might have a new idea for a wish for a birthday present now...
Way to go man. Well deserved. I have a copy of the earlier editions of both with me. So your previous video and this video made it really good to watch.
Great ! I love the way you describe maps and geography in general. I too am a great admirer and fan of possessing Atlases and am planning to actually buy a book which shows topography in 3D or in detail. I think This Nat Geo Atlas will be something I will plan for. Thank you so much for this channel and I am happy I bumped into this. I will look into your other videos to learn so much more about the Earth.
I'm a huge cartography fan, I'm a Land Surveyor & have been interested in maps, boundaries & physical geography all my life. Your channel is amazing! I can take your macro view & translate it exactly to the more local micro view. My home in the southern Shenandoah Valley of Virginia is filled with mountains, caves, amazing physical features! Yet there's very little out there to describe it all. Just locals who know the land having explored it all their lives. This fascinates me. Knowing mapping on a macro scale means knowing its most intimate features on a micro scale! One day perhaps I'll create a cartographic map of my area, a local atlas so to say, hehehe! Something more than boilerplate, something with local knowledge & names of local features. We have some incredible geographic features here, most remain hidden & unknown on private property. I get to see them as a Surveyor. Thanks for your videos & your love of atlases!!!
Hey @AtlasPro (long time watcher, first time commenter) we were wondering if you would be interested in reading the world atlas we wrote? (If not yeah I get it, I might not respond to a random comment in my comment section either ) Our atlas is called "The World A Comprehensive Guide to Geopolitics" It has breakdowns for over 1,400 geographic regions covered. Every continent, every UN member, every partially recognized nation (Taiwan, Kosovo, Palestine etc.), every autonomous region, every external territory. We even included breakdowns for every known base camp in Antarctica, by both summer and winter populations. It has over 440 colorized maps. And over 490 colorized flags. And we even included a geography section full of facts such as the largest rivers, lakes, deserts, the lowest elevations, highest altitudes, longest mountain ranges, most northerly and southerly nations just to name a few. It took us almost 2 years to make. I'm proud of it. We finally published on June 12, 2024. Almost 2 and a half months ago. Either way...love your channel man, keep up the great work! Always look forward to new videos!
Nice to see National Geographic appreciate your services to cartography. Now, if you can just get the attention of a manufacturer of quality bookcases ...... Always love your output, especially the frequently unexpected directions your clips can take. 👍
Marketing is insidious, NatGeo accessed the probability of your video as highly likely and so sent you product with no strings attached. Good job NatGeo and soft sell tactics. I'm left with a positive brand association for the part of my brain labeled "Atlas" and I can't unthink that.
I can take a lot more discussion about Doggerland and Zealandia before even beginning to tire of the novelty of them. So much more we can learn. Keep up the good work, there or elsewhere!
proud of you man, i couldn't imagine NAT GEO reaching out to me. my aunt always bought me a subscription every year and i read and collected every single one. they really are the ultimate science mag.
Have you considered doing a video on Gazetters (geographical index or dictionary) ? I recall spending a lot of time paging through an 'old' one and thinking about what had changed.
National geographic cartographers watching Atlas Pro videos: write that down! (also, gee, I wonder why a company would refuse to recognize a significant feature in TIBET)
I love the hubris of saying now that you've covered badwater now natgeo will pick it up. not that you're wrong, just the kind of founded confidence you love to see
Doggerland: I had a Map of Europe my Dad has already owned before in my Bedroom. The Map was from the 80s and already included Doggerland when i remember correctly.
Dogger Bank was long ago named by sailors, and was included in the new atlases along with other similar underwater features. Zealandia was named by historical geologists, as was DoggerLAND, for a feature that was above water. Zealandia included some (or all?) of New Zealand. So its use for the name of an underwater feature may have been considered problematic by cartographers. Still, the underwater feature does exist and is big. So, yes, there's a strong case that it should have a name.
1:45 HELL YEAH! 😂 for some reason that literally made me laugh out loud just the look of pure joy on your face when you were like hell yeah. I’ve always liked Nat Geo too Also, I’m a little bit older than you and I also remember my family had the world encyclopedias, pre Google . I would spending hours looking at them as a child. This is awesome I think I definitely want to buy a set of these.
Also, it really isn't about their "vocabulary" or knowledge being increased, I hate to say it but professional cartographers generally have more knowledge than you. There is a methodology to what is and isn't included. I don't have any insights into it, but there are lots of intentional choices being made for most things that are missing, such as Zealandia where there are many good reasons to not list it in an oceongraphic map.
I love the fact they sent it over after seeing the last atlas video, I watched it in bed enamoured because I had the same atlas growing up, and I was similarly in love with the book
Surprised there was no mention of the terrible binding that is present in the Family Reference edition. Major fail on Nat Geo's part. The inability to lay flat, allows so much of the map to be missed.
What’s the best atlas if I wanna see mostly thematic maps and all the info atlases have, not so much the regular maps? This family version or the natgeo visual atlas maybe?
Amsterdam (capital) and the Hague (government seat) were both on the map with the star icon for the Netherlands. Is that correct according to the definition of that icon? Or did they do an oopsie?
It would be great to have a Nat. Geo. atlas in full digital web based version like Google Maps. So the more we zoom in the more details become visible, which is impossible in a paper version. 🤔
Hi there @AtlasPro, other than to say how much I enjoy your content and feeding the algorithm and so on I thought I'd pitch a possible video/series to you? Essentially I thought it'd be fun if you took a blank fantasy map and tried to "colour it in" by using all your understanding of tectonics, ecology, climatology and so on until you eventually build up a world that makes sense from a biogeographical perspective? You could even start from "Which way does this world spin?" If you wanted to show what a world flipped from our own experience would be!
Just because you weren't paid doesn't make it not sponcon. You've given them a hefty amount of advertising in exchange for two expensive atlases. That's payment in kind.
OOH OOH, i got a video idea for you, the lost animals of mauritius. where you talk about all the animals that live on mauritius but became extinct along with the dodo
Also on Dogger Bank, what is funny about it, is that Nat Geo is the one that really got it more into the mainstream with an entire magazine dedicated to Doggerland.
@@rogink Atlases for the British market often have a map of all the thipping forecast zones. It's one of those little things that has burrowed its way into the national subconscious. Blur had a song about it in the 90s. The salience of goes Dogger Bank has risen; there were some interesting archaeological finds and the realisation that it was a populated area at the end of the ice age, and now its a big part of our energy infrastructure with multiple GW of offshore wind turbines already operating and many more planned.
It doesn't surprise me that the biggest changes to the atlases were for underwater features. There's still a lot about the ocean that we don't know, and it makes sense that the oceanography section lags a bit compared to the sections describing surface features.
Yes I wish we would do more deep sea exploration rather than space. I have no problem with space exploration but I feel there should be a better balance. How many times do we need to go to the moon when much of the sea is unknown to us?
Indeed, that seems to be a global thing at the moment. The brazilian geography institute recently released a new national atlas that shows our ocean territory for the first time on the main map of the country
@@carstarsarstenstesennThe amount of unexplored ocean is highly misleading. For example 80% metric is direct human observation and doesn’t include other things like sonar mapping and the such. And not to mention the fact that all the interesting areas are pretty well mapped out even the difficult ones. Like for instance we have a pretty good idea on the life and geography of the marina trench even if getting that is extremely difficult. But what accounts for the vast majority of actual unexplored ocean is open ocean. Vast expanses of sea with nothing interesting about them. What is the point of directly mapping say 5% of the ocean floor per space launch if the 5% if likely going to be completely unremarkable.
@@kylezdancewicz7346 You really wrote all that without being able to figure out why it's important to explore our planet lol. It's simply because life is still being discovered. That's enough reason right there. Multiple new octopus species were discovered only in 2023
I love that having old, slightly outdated geographic/world atlas' is something every Gen Z experienced. They're a snapshot of the world before the Digital Age
This is so awesome! I'm glad some folks over at Nat Geo have discovered the channel! I'm going to make sure to put some money aside to buy that comprehensive Atlas of the World. Looks incredibly detailed.
Thank you so much for making this video, im 17 and new to geography and really wanted to buy my first atlas but didnt know which one I should buy so this video helps me a lot!
I used to work at the Rand McNally store in San Francisco where we sold lots of different atlases and later was a product manager for Rand McNally. I found that different atlases have a perspective that they do best, as it's hard to include everything geographic in one book. There are a lot of cost/benefit problems to resolve such as level of detail vs legibility, scale vs page count, primary purpose vs addl information, and more, all of which has to be balanced against desired cost. So an atlas is measured against how well it is able to manage those equations to achieve an acceptable balance. My preference has always been Nat Geo because I did grow up with Nat Geo atlases and my Dad was an avid subscriber of the Nat Geo magazines since the 1950s. I'm used to Nat Geo's cartographic style as being the gold standard.
@@sforza209 yes! He had shelves built to hold them all, each year was in a bookcase box (I think Nat Geo sold them) so that they would keep their shape.
