Veronica, I live in Texas and have collected quite a few artifacts. I have suggested that collectors like us host a zoom call to compare and discuss these tools. I feel like creation and use of these tools are still relativity unknown. I am a current member of Texas Archeological Society and will be taking a 2 course on Archeobotny where I may be able to link the two.
I'm late to the discussion. Where in Texas did you find your artifacts. I have some great artifacts that resemble your collection that I found in Texas. Would be nice if someone could give me an opinion on my " rocks ". I have some that are obviously artifacts yet I've been told they're naturally eroded, " NO ARTIFACTS THERE ".
Was my first thought by the look. Hard tell without holding it. Were/are there large pines or other high resin trees in the area? I find some that size here in rotting out pines where the branch meets the trunk. Not that size, but hollowed out like that I have found as well. The ones I find where you can hardly tell there was a tree there or not at all are in boggy areas & while still wet were dark almost like oiled. Depending on how the tree died or if that branch had been damaged the wood can be very dense from sap. The knots are naturally more so anyway. You may know some of this already. Whatever it is, it's a beautiful find. That's my guess from sight alone. If there is a spot you don't mind scraping you might get a pine scent. Horn can have certain scent if rubbed rapidly with your thumb...you could comparison test it?
Cow. It appears to be a cow. Very nice haul dude. Wow. You really hit a good spot on your place. I should say spots. Really nice. Thank you for sharing.
The one before the big giant, is a hand axe most likely. I find a lot of them and they are clearly flaked to an edge. I figure they were used to process game after skinning...
That's a wood knot you can see it's wood & not as old as you think & why would you say it's maybe a female buffalo horn what's the difference between a male & female horn I wonder about your finds
Most of your "said artifacts" are river tumbled stones. Even if they were artifacts they are far beyond where you can say they are artifacts. I have researched & studied stone tool making (Lithic technology) for 33years. I have studied & participated in many reconstructive archaeological projects with many knowledgeable published archaeologists. Your passion is far greater than what you conceive to be proof of actual artifacts. I suggest that you actually learn to reconstruct stone tools. You will learn a lot about the differences in their hardness & use wear when you apply them to different life skills. Vincent James Ajello (Lithic Technologist/researcher).
There is always much to learn in this hobby for sure. It's one of the reasons I enjoy it. I have been doing it for quite some time and am well studied in hard stone artifacts and how they are made. One of the biggest disappointments I have with the EXPERT community is the lack of knowledge beyond the big 4. Groved axe, Celt, Adzes, and Hammer stone. As you know, during the late Archaic through the Woodland period, there was a proliferation of all kinds of tools transitioning eastern cultures into an agrarian way of life. C.G. Yeager is about the only one who knows a little about them, and he is out west. It has taken years for me to understand the agrarian way of life in this area, and I am still learning.
Because of your show I have been able to find hundreds of Indian artifacts in Illinois mainly from rivers and streams in the past two month's. My family owns lake front property near Leach Lake Chippawa Indian reservation in Minnesota for the past fifty years in which we collected nice rocks on our land. I had No idea that 18 of them were Chippawa artifacts of a mens faces, Wally , bear head grinding stone with writing on it with dates on them like 1778 and 1841 on another. I collected arrowheads since 1961, but had No idea what Indian relics looked like till now.
I was the same until i watched his videos. I just returned from a 10 day camping trip near a creek in the deep south on family land this week with over 100 artifacts. To see their craftsmanship is fascinating and impressive. It feels like an honor to hold them.
No the black tool u said was from the dam is a mastodon. I have it upside down. Now it probably was a tool. But the first black one u told about the oiled rock needs to be. Flipped over.. it’s a mastodon. The grey ones are also Mastodon.
Brent I'd like to thank you for knowledge! I'm in North Florida and I find some similar pieces in my yard. So far my tools have all been relatively small but I am not Creek searching yet. Where I live is a pretty neat place, historically. Im between Paines Prairie in Gainesville and the Santa Fe River, Oleno State Park. Lots of history. The Old Spanish Trail is within walking distance of my place, too. I'm ready to start looking a bit harder. Anyway, long-winded and I do apologize but I wanted to let you know you're helping me a lot. I noticed a comment saying you're just finding rocks, upset me a little. No need in being like that. I'm new to this and I can clearly tell you have tools. Take care
You yard was once a river or ocean I think Earth has done a property swaps in the past like for all we no the land under are feet could have been on the other side before. If you want to find good rock caves that you can actually see the painting's you have dig down four feet and then when you find something it will be in much better shape.
I’m new to watching your videos and don’t know where you are located. I’m in southern Virginia and have found exactly the same stones here. There is little information about tribes in my area. What time period are these stones from and do you know if any tribe in particular made these? Any information is very much appreciated!
These artifacts are mostly from the Woodland time period. 2000 BC up to 1400 AD. Some may be Archaic. The culture was Mississippian, not sure if this culture reached the Virginia area , probably not. The Chisca people were in south west Virginia ,don't know much about them.
Good day Brent. I live along the TN River. I have found a large amount of these type stones in a short amount of time. I've only found 3 projectile points in my lifetime. This gives us an idea of the commonality. Finding information on the Interweb about these tools are scarce.
I have never found a point in the river. I do find points on the camp sights which are always 50 to 100 feet above the river. Most of the larger tools were made and left at the river. I do find some smaller tools at camp sights. My opinion is the eastern tribes were well into an agrarian lifestyle by 4000 BC. Many of the rivers were the life blood of this way of life. These cultures spent a large part of every day at these rivers. At least 5500 years of tool making along these rivers ! That's one reason why there are so many. The other is not many people look for them, or know anything about them.
@@brentkuehne435 Most of us look for the arrowheads or the tomahawks. These items I'm sure were saved. These stones carried a lot of weight and were most likely left behind. Thanks for your quick response.
I live hundreds of miles away...also on land where peoples using stone, antler, wood, bone to make tools have lived & gathered at the water ways. I find many "stone tools" . Some look fresh broken & I see a tool I could use as is or with little work. Many I see look as is they could have been a tool. The thing is, when patterns form & you see the same thing over & over....I see the same shapes he is showing. I came to some very similar conclusions. There are some pieces you can hold in your hand & feel that it was a tool. It is still a tool. Watch some of his other videos...he does question what some are or if the are tools. Most of our everyday common tools aren't going to be in future peoples trade shows or museums either.
Painful to watch...It sounds like you assume and speak on them like you know for a fact. These are all just natural rocks...Have you ever attended an artifact show? I'm not trying to be a jerk,but I've been hunting and collecting precolunbian artifacts for over 25 years....I'm at all of the annual shows in Kentucky and Tennessee. These are what we call "geofacts" Just curious natural stones Sorry.
Been at it a long time also. Its possible a tiny few could be geo's , sometimes it's hard to tell if its natural or worked by man. Most of the time it's not if you know what to look for. 99% of hardstone Artifacts that exist are not what you find at shows. The everyday tools just don't garner the attention like the perfect ceremonial peaces you see at most shows. Have worked closely with professors and museum curator putting a display in at a local museum representing the local culture during the late archaic, Woodland period.
So which ones would you consider artifacts and which would you not? Lumping every single thing he has as being unworked AND unused is interesting. Don’t shows have mostly complete, very pristine artifacts or am I wrong? Btw interestingly enough, most typical archeological things I’ve watched rarely have complete, intact, and easily identifiable artifacts
And that is why he is putting his collection (which is one of the largest Cherokee collections, I might add) into a museum, and you are going to artifact shows. I am not trying to be a jerk or anything 😁.
What Museum??? 😂 Plenty of Archeologists attend these shows and do Authentication on Relics that people bring in..... This man will not find a single Archeologist in the US to back him on these things.
Great collection! I'm subscribed for future vids. I just was out at one of my NA artifact hunting sites this evening and just as it was getting too dark to see I found a wash out in a creek with atleast 15 pieces of cord marked pottery in very close proximity. As I was scrambling to pick up all I could before dark came, I noticed 2 very unique looking stones in the mix. I brought them home as possible NA stone tools, and you have basically confirmed that for me after a few of your vids. I'm not sure where you are, but I am in Western NC and both the stones I found today have the end or ends pecked out of them as you stated and showed several times. The stones are not natural, and your videos and advice has helped me confirm that. I noticed lots of "90 degree" stone tools in another vid and I find stones like that all over my hunting ground all the time. I always thought they looked NA, but wasn't sure how to even tell, so I've dropped plenty of those. I'm gonna have to head back tomorrow in light and see what I can find. Obviously what washed out from the bank reached into a layer of Native American artifacts... I'd cant wait to see how much more is just sitting there! Hope it doesn't flood tonight, lol! Good luck in future hunts sir! Ill be watching in the future too! Jimmy Brown @bonezcustoms on Instagram
Quarts and minerals all have both a certain cleavage and lattice in which they are bonded together. I think it's very helpful to know and understand this to know exactly what you may or may not be looking at. You definitely have a quite a few really nice pieces there. The one that you referred to as pottery, those almost look like teeth marks or I suppose a stick could make the same mark. Could it be bone?
At 9:27 on your video. I think thats a wedge to split big logs/whole tree bodies. Im native american and had found something similar, showed some of my elders. Thats what they said it was.
No, but I can only bite my tongue for so long! It's not up to me to prove them wrong, it' up to Brent to prove them right. Believe what you want . I don't believe what I can't! @@MsHeather383
It's definitely for a fire for Lighting fixtures I have found lots rocks here in New Brunswick Canada I wasn't sure that it was Native it seems like the shape's are the same but I find small piece with great carvings very hard to believe. I thought maybe the Norseman could have been part of it. They were Masons and it seems like they picked special rocks and here I found a lot of big ruin stones. And alot of boats with the dragon boats I see it carved so many rocks it's hard to amaging people could do so much they would have had to be huge amount of people but you must see it I can see it on the one oiled in your hand the green one it's got boat on side
I would love to show you some pictures of how close they are to yours it's really weird that it could so close. Something about the shape's and if you look with a magnifying glass there simbol and I lookup the old Norse language and I see alot of the same now it's very hard to get all of the letters but I can make some. I would love to know if you have noticed that to.
I believe a couple of the pieces later in the video were "hoof style pestles." Evaluating possible camp tools.is a tough game. There are many subtleties. One thing that may be helpful to consider-is that small children, children, teens, adults, elders, etc were all involved in planting & preparing food, hide processing, clothes, footwear, pottery, de-barking, tools, weapons, and a host of other camp and village activities . They all required tools for scraping, cutting, grinding, polishing, light flaking, hammering, etc... It is very easy to dismiss all visually plain/natural looking stone tools as rocks, or geofacts. The fact of the matter is, that "expedient tools" were most often made with a minimal amount of grinding, polishing, pecking. They were utility objects. . Finally, no one is ever 100% correct on their evaluations on the purpose of a tool, or certainty that it is a tool. Tools made from pebbles and cobbles were commonplace. Brett does a good job identifying areas on tools where they were worked and how they were likely utilized.
Thanks for the comment. I totally agree with your assessment. Form did not need to exceed function! And if the form you need is already fifty percent there, all the better! The same concept was used with points and blades to some degree. I also tend to believe that time spent in workmanship forming tools and points directly correlated with the amount of stress the cultures were under at any given point in time.
For years I lived adjacent to several Pueblo-Reservations. Go to any museum in NM and you will see the beauty of what you call the Big 4. and other Strategic Tools pecked, ground, polished into serious works of art. Leave that museum and travel 10 miles into the high desert ( within city limits) to campsites used by the river and mountain tribes over thousands of years. There was water in this geo then-find bird points and 6lb-8lb. "crush" stone tools ( large bone marrow extraction.) Look at the tools ( nearly all expedient). They are tools made and left to serve an essential need. They will never be seen in a museum. They were used for butchering and feeding hunting parties and their related needs. You will never read any articles in Archaeology Periodicals about these tools. I live on a river now (think super highway) for the Eastern tribes going back 10,000 + years. I find tools along that river that are man made tools with marginal modifications-but obvious with experience. They have seen water forever. Camp tools left where they were made. Stay open minded and enjoy the fun of the search and find!
There beautiful and they picked the best hardest rock's I wonder if we don't have rock from another planet because there's so much it was well noing that pagins carved everything
99% of what you are showing are not artifacts. I have a huge collection and these are just stones. I suggest you get yourself some books or watch some real artifact videos so you will be able to recognize the real things.
I suggest you do the same. I’m calling you a liar. Stone ground tools have been made and used for literally thousands of years in very similar forms that Brett is describing.
Yes, several stone forms & materials can be used for grinding, burnishing, cracking nuts, cracking bones, indirect percussion, hammer stones, bi-polar stone work, pottery work, scraping Hyde's, glutes(wedges to split wood), polishing, sanding, etc. However, you have to be able to confirm the work end. Usually even if rolled in a stream they will make themselves apparent because more wear & scratches can be identified. Make some stone tools using only organic materials, applying them in primitive living skills & lifeways. you will observe wear patterns that can still be identified even after being rolled in water for long periods of time. These were mostly expendable tools. I see uses for these stones in reconstructive archaeological projects. Recently I made a dug out canoe using all stone & antler/bone tools. All of them were documented & numbered. When you have & use only organic materials it's amazing what uses for stone you find to create & problem solve. Vincent James Ajello (Lithic Technologist/researcher)
I can't take it anymore! Stream worn rocks! If it was only that easy, to go down a creek an find a dozen artifacts a day. You have quite an imagination.
What is wrong with all of you!?😅😅… I think my iq has highly increased… these are literally just natural rocks that have made up uses just bc of their shape… I mean cmon… definitley a lot of use of imagination… just bc you can find ways they fit good in your hand and come up with some sort of “use” that you think up doesn’t make them true artifacts… I’m new to all of this and this just irritates me honestly bc they’re just rocks with certain shapes that have made up uses just because someone can find a way they fit in your hand. I try to find videos to learn and get knowledge for stuff I find that has potential artifact classification… but find videos like this that have people way overly believening things are what they aren’t just bc they are naturally shaped or broke overtime just right to where they fit in hand and it’s hard to learn anything because some are just plumb made up uses. If I did that then I would have an u godly amount of “artifacts” laying around… but even I know better than to call most of rocks like such in video artifacts because there is no way they are. Just irritated trying to learn and figure stuff out and come across several people doing this… calling everything a grinder or what not just because ya find a way it happens to fit in hand… cmon people ya don’t got to make up uses and such to make ya feel like ya got artifacts… keep getting out there and find some FOR SURE artifacts
I think when you said that you are new to all of this you could have stopped writing. It’s non-sensical to say that because you don’t understand then Brett’s identifications are wrong. I have a vast collection of NA tools many of which are identical to his. Perhaps you should educate yourself before you pop off at the mouth.
It's clear that this guy that sees every river worn stone as an artifact is extensively misleading with his mindless gerbal insights & infantile stupiditys. This is misleading information with no basis in reality. After all the years of study & research as a Lithic Technologist I take offense that this person without any legitimate education or understanding is misleading people about one of the greatest technological advancements & knowledge that insured the continuation of our species. This sight should be taken down. It's complete nonsense.
