NATO has a problem: It's called the North Pole

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Between growing tensions with Russia, the emergence of China as a self-declared Arctic protagonist, the vulnerability of data cables and the thawing of the ice as part of global warning, the Arctic is a theater that provides some real challenges to NATO. Join Chris as he talks to Arun Dawson (PhD Student, King's College London) about the Arctic.
Read Arun Dawson's piece on the Arctic (High North): www.kcl.ac.uk/warstudies/asse...
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Provided by Arun Dawson:
For a general overview:
- Depledge, Duncan; ‘NATO and the Arctic’, RUSI Journal, 165:5-6 (2020) (link here: www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/1...
Historical experiences:
- Swinzow, George; On Winter Warfare (Washington, DC: US Army Corps of Engineers, 1993) (link here: apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/ADA270...)
- Schofield, Ernest and Nesbit, Roy Conyers; Arctic Airmen (Cheltenham: The History Press, 2014)
- Kiszely, John; Anatomy of a Campaign (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2017)
Recent developments:
- Kaushal, Sidharth; Byrne, James; Byrne, Joseph; Byrne, Giangiuseppe; and Somerville, Gary; RUSI Whitehall Paper 100: The Balance of Power Between Russia and NATO in the Arctic and High North (Abingdon: Routledge, 2022)
- Clark, Robert and White, Roberto; The Next Front? Sino-Russian expansionism in the Arctic and a UK response (London: Civitas, 2022)
- Timecodes -
00:00 - Intro: topic and expert
01:02 - The Arctic: Why should we care
03:51 - Basing, geography and where we are at
06:27 - Shipping routes and underwater sabotage
10:17 - Military exercise and cooperation
14:04 - Unique operating conditions of the Arctic
23:17 - How prepared is NATO?
29:45 - What can a single country do?
34:49 - Relevance vs Ukraine and Indopacific
39:09 - Recommendations
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@MilitaryAviationHistory Год назад

Things going south from the North Pole showcases the very limits of my Germanic wit

@beepboop204 Год назад

i cant believe you didnt address how canada issued santa clause a passport, and assigned him a canadian mailing address. shirley this will give canada a leg up on the coming arctic conflicts

@warpartyattheoutpost4987 Год назад

You're like that famous comedian Arnold Braunschweiger.

@matthewrikihana6818 Год назад

Bravo on the pun. Germanic wit lands a winner.

@jamesrowlands8971 Год назад

Hey, before I watch anymore of your content, can I ask why you didn't disclose Stanimir Dobrev's financial backers when presenting him as an 'independent' expert?

@Overitall805 Год назад

This was a brilliant statement

@maxqiu4134 Год назад

I mean once you're at the north pole, things, by definition, can only go south

@MilitaryAviationHistory Год назад

If things go south, do they not also go North 🤔 think about it

@maxqiu4134 Год назад

@@MilitaryAviationHistory I mean, if you go far enough south, eventually you'll start going north if that's what you mean lol

@MilitaryAviationHistory Год назад

See, made you think 😏

@nvelsen1975 Год назад

At least half the Poles are nearby to help. And with Poland arming up as it is, that should count for something.

@MilitaryAviationHistory Год назад

OH, noice!

@MrAnton275 Год назад

I used to work at a military unit up in the far north of Sweden and you are correct that the arctic is a very challenging enviroment during the winter when you are in the field. If whoever you are fighting isnt trying to kill you at the moment, the weather is. Training in the region is really important if you want to survive and be an effective figting unit.

@para-tanker Год назад

As a cold weather instructor I couldnt agree more.

@johnwinter7597 Год назад

The summers are rough too

@PalleRasmussen Год назад

I lived in Greenland for three years (and Norway for a winter, but Norway is a lush paradise compared to Greenland). Copying the locals is key; they know how to thrive.

@Mattiniord Год назад

Having been born north of the Arctic circle in North Sweden, I remember that in the early 1990:s it was damn near impossible to avoid compulsory military service if you came from the north Swedish country side. Already knowing the realities of being outdoors during the winter gave you a headstart. Also, I think it was also seen as beneficial since we locals could help conscripts from south Sweden to learn how to deal with the cold in a more informal way. This was complement to the training we recieved. I remember the first really cold winter day, when we had -25 Celcius, our officers were almost euphoric. Now we could finally train for real! The general idea was that learning to fight during winter was the hard part. And if we could fight in winter conditions, fighting in the summer was a cakewalk in comparission. There is so much to consider that for us born there was sort of second nature and something we almost did not know we knew. How to adapt your dress depending on what you were doing in order not to get cold and not to start sweating. Then how to get vehicles and electronics to work during severe cold is something you really need to prepare for and learn the tricks and tips. There were people who really could not adapt or who did not pay attention. You had to keep and eye on them and see when they started to get cold and get them inside the tent and by the fire. We referred to the condition as "fältkoma". But I remember one of our officers telling us that there was one thing we must remember. "When you lie there in your dug out or behind a tree and you feel the cold biting into, you should always remember this. The enemy will freeze just as much as you!"

@CharliMorganMusic Год назад

Surviving in the cold isn't hard or complicated; everything just requires more energy. More food, more salt, more water, more fuel, more lubricants.

@jameson1239 Год назад

@@CharliMorganMusic that makes it more difficult by definition not to mention specialized equipment such as Skis, Snowshoes, Tire chains, Jackets, Gloves, insulated shelters or atleast the training and tools to make one, insulated water storage, -50 Antifreeze for vehicles, depending on how fragile some electronics are you may need to insulate them, you also need to make sure lubricants and hydraulic fluids don’t freeze .

@brendandor Год назад

@@CharliMorganMusic lets not forget a lot of modern military kit is heavily reliant on electronics so batteries etc are a big liability.

@The_ZeroLine Год назад

Fascinating facts. And an unfair, but logical practice.

@frenstcht Год назад

One cannot recommend highly enough the book "The Jungle is Neutral" by Chapman. Apart from being a fascinating memoir, it really helps one understand the the environment just is; it doesn't love you or hate you, it's just a playing field that you have to adapt to. Some of examples of the Chinese communists failing to understand that are so instructive that they'll inform war fighters in any environment even though the situations aren't strictly analogous.

@JohnRodriguesPhotographer Год назад

When Thule was nothing, my Dad was in Army. He was part of the engineering team that built the original base. I have pictures he took at Thule and Goose Bay Labrador.

@MilitaryAviationHistory Год назад

That’s cool, when about’s was this? Did you recognise any of the areas in the video?

@whya2ndaccount Год назад

Hopefully he wasn't involved in the 1968 B-52 crash / H bomb recovery drama?

@tuomasnoopila7390 Год назад

So going back to the beginning with US-Finnish cooperation on training in the arctic. As some may know, an interesting tidbit of historical curiosity is that the systematic development of US Army arctic capacity was more or less started after WW2 by a group of Finnish officers led by Col. Alpo Marttinen. They were forced to leave Finland after discovery of the covert operation to cache arms and ammunition to continue the fight in the case of Soviet occupation after the armistice. Their entry in the US and enlistment to the army was promoted by U.S. Army Assistant Chief of Staff Gen. Wedemeyer and OSS’s former chief Bill Donovan. Col. Marttinen was the principal author of Field Manuals 31-70, Basic Arctic Manual, and 31-71, Northern Operations and the groups influence in development of arctic mobility as well as other gear was strong at least until 1960’s. And it will not be only the pure arctic conditions which will be important, but also the subarctic conditions around the Baltic sea.

@MikeSiemens88 Год назад

With respect to Canada's presence in the Arctic, CFS Alert is our northern most station. It has the distinction of being the world's most northerly permanently inhabited place. Primarily an intelligence gathering 'listening' post it features a runway long enough for CC-130 Hercules & our newer CC-177 Globemaster cargo aircraft. Back in the mid 1980's I had the opportunity to fly up there in a Hercules to recover one of our 408 Sqn CH-135 Huey helicopters. Tac Hel squadrons in Canada would take turns providing a Huey each summer for cache resupply flights up there. CFS Alert itself is resupplied annually by Operation Boxtop. Other than that our Arctic presence is rather limited. Canada relies heavily on co-operation with USA to monitor activities there. Been that way since the Cold War with coast-to-coast chains of radar stations keeping watch for Soviet bombers attacking North America over the Arctic. Limited assets come under the purview of Joint Task Force North headquartered in Yellowknife. These include 440 Transport Squadron operating Twin Otter aircraft, C (Yellowknife) Company of the Loyal Edmonton Regiment & the 1st Canadian Ranger Patrol Group. Our Naval presence is next to none. There are some icebreakers (Coast Guard if not mistaken) but no warships capable of maintaining a presence there during the winter. I often wondered why Canada never opted for at least a few nuclear submarines capable of operating under the ice indefinitely. Our submarine force is a joke to put it mildly.

@somewhere6 Год назад

There was a plan announced in the late 80s by the Ministry of Defence to acquire 10 nuclear powered subs but it was hotly debated and abandoned completely after the change in government in 1993. The Nanisivik Naval Facility was supposed to open this year but that remains to be seen. It is iced in except for August-September so one wonders what effective use it will be.

@beepboop204 Год назад

my highschool buddy had his dad do WO stuff in the CF, then became a private contractor in Kosovo. when he decided to spend more time with his family, he transferred to work out of Alert. lol i dont think he really wanted to spend that much time with his family.

@scottmccambley764 Год назад

The Canadian Navy now has 6 brand new Arctic Patrol Ships, basically armed icebreakers. They gross out around 8000t and are very capable ships. Each is equipped with advanced towed array sonar and side scan radar designed for arctic deployment. They can land a big Chinook and house a Cyclone ASW onboard. They will be used to patrol and control the NW Passage. The four upholders have been extensively modernized since they were bought and contain the exact same underwater warfare suite as the USS Seawolf. They truly are effective SSK boats. Sure they could use AIP but other than that they are deadly silent hunters. With fifteen CSC Type 26 frigates finally about to enter build stage in the next couple years, the RCN will eventually have one of the largest Ageis capable fleets in the world equipped with the very latest SPY 7 radar suite. This will allow Canada to finally join the US BMD program as a partner with some decision making clout

@MikeSiemens88 Год назад

@@scottmccambley764 Nice, good info thank you. I admit I'm in the dark concerning our Navy. Good to see it get some useful updates.

@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 Год назад

We also use First Nations and Inuit to help monitor.

@davydatwood3158 Год назад

Obviously any defence of the Arctic has to involve Canada, and when we start talking about Canada's North we can't ignore the political situation regarding the Inuit and other Indigenous people. The Inuit suffered massively in the 1960s as Canada attempted to assert sovereignty and built the DEW line, and part of Canada's current reluctance to be more active in the North stems directly from that. The current Federal government doesn't want to provoke things; the Inuit, broadly speaking, don't want even more colonial encroachment on their lands and way of life. The whole thing is a gigantic mess that can't be solved easily; given than Canada's military as a whole is in pretty bad shape, it's not really a surprise we're focusing on other areas and leaving the North to itself.

@bc-guy852 Год назад

While I agree with your statement and points I don't think ignoring this massive area of concern will do anything but make the situation worse. The situation in Ukraine must be a wake-up call for Canada to do more - both for Ukraine and for our OWN protection. The north needs attention from US - or others, will.

@davydatwood3158 Год назад

@@bc-guy852 Oh, I agree. But the reality is that so much is broken in the CAF that it's not practical to fix all of it at once, so we might as well start with the low-hanging fruit.

@mugsnvicki Год назад

As a Canadian, I view the Artic as being Canadian territory. And except for the Canadian Rangers (60% indigenous), we are woefully undermanned.

@beepboop204 Год назад

sea to sea to sea

@johanmetreus1268 Год назад

As a Swede from 68°N, I consider most Canadians bloody Southerners. ;-)

@mugsnvicki Год назад

@@johanmetreus1268 agree, bloody southerners that can play hockey!

@johanmetreus1268 Год назад

@@mugsnvicki , no, Canadians do not play hockey, they PLAY hockey. At times, I feel a pang of sympathy for the Canadian mothers wondering how they handle giving birth to babies with skates.

@mugsnvicki Год назад

I can't believe I spelled Arctic incorrectly!!😂

@IJ-fj3zl Год назад

Good piece but very much done from a European perspective (which isn't a bad thing). The Canadian Arctic is very large and possesses essentially zero infrastructure which makes any type of activity, let alone the deployment of military assets, extremely difficult. On the plus side, there are forward operating bases established and various sensor nets (radar etc) so a military capability is maintained. As alluded to, the Northwest Passage is a key strategic Canadian waterway (not everybody agrees with that position). Having flown around the Arctic (a while ago though) the skills, technology and equipment required are well known for getting to places like Alert, Cambridge Bay, Hall Beach, Inuvik, etc. In the winter the arctic is cold, dark and difficult, just about everything has to be flown in and temperatures are "interesting" ie effing cold. The summer is better and supplies can be brought in by ship as well as air. All to say a Canadian arctic military confrontation won't involve armoured divisions charging across the tundra, it will involve small numbers of naval or aviation assets due to the distances and logistics involved. It was fun seeing Thule again, thanks for that.

@beepboop204 Год назад

but i mean, santa clause? we did the barest of minimum :p

@charlestheiner2833 Год назад

Excellent point! I'm working on a NATO project for my grad program rn and I'll definitely be bringing this up on Monday!

@michaelguerin56 Год назад

Thank you Christoph and Arun. Always something to learn. I shall read bth Arn’s and Duncan’s articles.

@DarkFire515 Год назад

Fascinating discussion, thanks for putting this together!

@tsegulin Год назад

Very detailed and comprehensive, thanks Chris. One hopes the Government of Canada is also watching this video. Despite promising steps taken a decade ago under the Harper government, the Canadian Arctic seems pretty undefended to me. Russia made it clear years ago that they dispute Canadian Arctic claims. I understand we are upgrading/modernizing NORAD, but is that alone enough? Defense spending doesn't buy votes in Canada until the country is facing an actual crisis and then of course, it's too late.

@jonmce1 Год назад

THe Harper government was all noise and no action. The current government is improving the radar systems , building 6 Artic patrol ships (6500 tons)(three launched) plus 2 additional for the coast guard. In addition it has ordered two heavy polar ice breakers. Further while delayed it has ordered 88 F35s as compared to 66 by Harper. Ten additional further second hand F18s were purchased because the Harper government dishonestly claimed it had enough to meet existing commitments which it didn't. Harper never increased the portion of GDP for defense despite being in a war in Afganistan. The current government has increased the defence budget by about a third and has plans for further increases. During the Harper administration the Canadian navy was reduced by 4 destroyers and 2 provision ships with no new ships built. The current government have two provision ships nearing completion. On the longer term it has order 15 Type 26 frigates which according to reports will be at 9400 tons full load. The current 12 City class frigates are being upgraded. The government is currently reviewing the replacement for the Kingston class.

@Whoosh0001 Год назад

Excellent report, obviously a fruitfull cooperation. Thx!

@mensch1066 Год назад

Since this is an aviation channel, I did not expect land or sea forces to be mentioned, but since these forces do interact in the field I think it's worth mentioning that the lack of logistics and infrastructure Arun Dawson mentions particularly apply to Canada. It wasn't long ago that their militia forces in the territories (I forget the exact name for the force) finally had their Lee-Enfield bolt action rifles replaced with something a bit less obsolescent, and after making a lot of noise about the issue early in Stephen Harper's premiership, Canada never really did anything to update its navy to control its own Artic waters (meaning that Russian submarines' main worry in the Northwest Passage might be something American, but not anything Canadian in spite of the Northwest Passage being in Canadian waters).

@636theofthebeast8 Год назад

This was an excellent video, well done to the both of you!

@007999999999999999 Год назад

WOW this was much more interesting that I would have thought, thank you very much for giving us these insight into what all has to go into such an endeavor as the arctic in this example.

@dweldredge Год назад

Another great guest--would like to see him back on the channel.

@matthewrikihana6818 Год назад

"The North Pole has great potential for things to go south." A geographic pun?

@M60E3MG Год назад

Odd question: at 25:00 you can see a Swedish (I think) soldier with a plastic device on the side of his rifle. Is it a brass catcher?

@maxqiu4134 Год назад

Sure is

@M60E3MG Год назад

@@maxqiu4134 not a bad idea in training, though I imagine it creates noise if it has brass in it.

@LowStuff Год назад

Really intersting how long it can take between procurement and public acknowledgement of ramping up of preparedness in a specific theatre. Encountered a procurement project a few years back regarding a certain military that didn't give care about how much they'd pay. And they were requesting odd tools in large quantities with even more odd requirements. Like only a handful of places on the globe met those conditions or could exceed them. I guessed I'd be the artic, alaska, greenland or siberia. Guess all are correct in a sense.

@haltuaketti420 Год назад

i agree the amount of russian submarines and planes entering icelandic airspace have increased alot since 2019 as nation without a military and only has defence from NATO its dangerous game when we only have few NATO parters defending our airspace and not even the whole year its mostly 4-6month a year sometimes even less

@MilitaryAviationHistory Год назад

How would you say the overall perception in Iceland about defense and NATO is at the moment?

@stevenkraft8070 Год назад

@@MilitaryAviationHistory I know that Icelandic public opinion regarding NATO was very mixed back when the alliance first started. In fact, Iceland was one of the principal focuses of those old 1950s "NATO road shows" where NATO had personnel going from town-to-town/city-to-city doing presentations about what NATO offered to the various members.

@leeming1317 Год назад

Dont forget the chinese fishing trawlers

@michaelmulligan0 6 месяцев назад

That’s a really good point regarding night currency

@stupidburp Год назад

Lots of armored articulated tracked vehicles with insulated camouflage covers. STK Bronco 3 for example. There are still quite a few older unarmored or lightly armored types still in service. Need to bump up a bit in size and protection. Many heavier armored vehicles will get stuck frequently. JLTV or similar should be used extensively. F-15s are well suited to arctic environments, they were stationed in Alaska for many years. F-15EX should be acquired and used in the North. Basic semi hardened primitive shelters should be built all over. Equipped for off grid independence. Tunnels connecting the shelters. Most open to the public when not in use by the military. Most unoccupied but ready to be filled with a military force when needed. Helipads for all of them. Primitive air strips for some, where space permits (C-130J capable). These should also be on every island in the Aleutians. Automated ground based navigation, weather, and communication stations should be placed along the Arctic. These can serve both civilian and military use. More icebreakers. Perhaps some nuclear powered ones, operated by the US Navy to supplement diesel powered ice breakers.

@russellbertrand3242 Год назад

at 00:32 'things to go south' - it's the north pole... things can only go south. 🤣🤣🤣

@TheDemigans Год назад

“Things go north” is what I wanted to say

@justsomeguywithoutamustang6436 Год назад

well it's all quiet in the western front so..

@JamesLaserpimpWalsh Год назад

haha

@stevenkraft8070 Год назад

The Arctic has always been a big concern to NATO. The main Soviet/Russian naval fleet and all their ballistic-missile subs operates out of Murmansk, with designs to cut the supply line between Europe and North America in a conflict. You have 4 NATO allies who have coastlines in the Arctic (U.S., Canada, Norway and Denmark) several other NATO members with nearby coastlines or territories, including now Finland and Sweden. The U.S. and Russia are only 100-200 miles apart at the Bering Straits in the North Pacific. And now you have navigation routes and resource deposits opening up because the ice caps are retreating.

@JamesLaserpimpWalsh Год назад

I always always wondered how Thule was pronounced. lol. Thanks for that.

@sergeysmirnov1062 Год назад

A lot of way to go south at the Arctic eh? I see what you did there. For real though, really fascinating (if a bit depressing) to watch

@dnixon8767 Год назад

Good video. Thanks for posting.

@christopher6161 Год назад

If you do more videos can you turn your sound volume up

@JamesLaserpimpWalsh Год назад

Cheers Chris. Fine work as ever young scamp melad.

@thearisen7301 Год назад

Western countries need to increase investment into nuclear energy to not only improve energy security but also to not be dependent on the weather. Nuclear is also a great source of heat. The US nuclear industry is making a come back & the military has Project Pele which is developing a mobile nuclear reactor & there are quite a few micro & small modular reactors that could power bases in remote regions. France is looking at building as many as 14 large GW sized reactors & Poland wants to be 40% nuclear by 2050. They also confirmed deals for 3 US & 3 Korean large reactors. Finland just finished a new reactor & wants more too so I'm just saying there is a lot of potential in what nuclear can offer militaries & countries in general.

@Uncle_Torgo Год назад

The problem is that the Three Strikes Rule has already been invoked: Three Mile Island, Chernobyl, and Fukushima. All were potentially much worse than occurred and the result of stupidity and greed, human traits that will never go away. Nukes have a place, just not within 500 miles of population centers of more than 10,000 people. They are inherently dangerous because humans are inherently dangerous, including the ones who design automated systems to supposedly avoid inherent human danger.

@ginacalabrese3869 Год назад

Germany was too busy shutting theirs down over the last decade...

@effexon Год назад

@12:30 where is this footage from? interesting camo

@norsenomad Год назад

This sequence of video clips shows a couple of Norwegian Bell 412 helicopters (you can see the RNoAF insignia), Norwegian infantry (uniform in green, brown, taupe colors, rounded camo pattern, a visible small Norwegian flag on right upper arm) together with Swedish infantry (uniform in green tones and angular camo pattern), a Swedish Army Stridsvagn 122/Leopard 2A5 variant and a Swedish Army CV90 (both have Swedish military registration plate, yellow on black), and you may have noticed the alpine landscape. Given everything mentioned, the video clip is most likely from a NATO joint Cold Weather Operations (CWO) Exercise in Northern Norway 🇳🇴, called Cold Response. These are biannual (even years), and are titled Cold Response 2018, Cold Response 2020, Cold Response 2022, etc. In the yearly years of CWO exercises only NATO members have participated, but later years the NATO partner countries Finland and Sweden has also been invited and participated. If not Cold Response, this could be a NATO Joint Viking exercise in Northern Norway, also biannual but odd years. These are titled Joint Viking 2019, Joint Viking 2021, Joint Viking 2023, etc, if you want to search for info. The vehicle white winter camo paint is removable. It is commonly used during winter season in the armies of the northern Nordic countries (Finland, Norway and Sweden), and is scrubbed off when spring arrives and snow thaws, at least in the lowlands. Purpose of these exercises: Expanding member countries' capability to fight in arctic or cold weather environments, and to train and interface with a NATO allies. The exercises bring together Around 30,000 troops from 27 European and North American countries, testing their ability to work together in cold weather conditions on NATO's North-Eastern flank (i.e. across Norway) - on land, in the air and at sea. The NATO Centre of Excellence Cold Weather Operations (COE-CWO), which acts as the main provider and coordinator of expertise and capabilities in the area of Cold Weather Operations in NATO, is located in Norway. When Finland and Sweden become full NATO members, these exercises are expected to cover not only the territory of Norway, but territories of all five Nordic countries and prepared & planned by all Nordic countries' armed forces as a coordinated group of hosts.

@whya2ndaccount Год назад

Critical limitation to Air Operations North of the Arctic Circle - distinct lack of 5 or 6 star hotels for flight crew.

@henrykissinger3151 Год назад

Pretty disappointed that the single largest (in terms of area) player in the artic, Denmark by way of Greenland, is only mentioned twice? No mention of the Danish navy patrolling in Danish waters(Artic Command), the single most northern military force the Sirius Patrol and Danish fighter aircraft and surveillance aircraft stationed in Greenland and Iceland. Denmark (Greenland) probably being the single largest benefactor of global warming and Danish territories being vital in controlling the northern Atlantic in a possible conflict, I believe it’s a major oversight of this video.

@The_Modeling_Underdog Год назад

Shut up, Henry. Your time's past. Can't believe you're still around, mate. Just kick it already, will ya? :oD

@TheNapalmFTW Год назад

@Phillip Banes Google is your friend lol

@michaeldenesyk3195 Год назад

A question for you: What would be the response of Norway or other countries if these countries catch a Russian submarine or Assets severing undersea cables or pipelines? Would kinetic measures be justified? IE: Sinking or damaging a Russian submarine that is engaged in this sabotage?

@stevenkraft8070 Год назад

I'd say that the Norwegian pipelines in particular are critical, for both the Norwegian and broader European economies. Especially now that the Nordstream pipelines are destroyed and pipelines into/through Poland and Ukraine are mostly blocked by war damage and Russian desire not to provide natural gas and oil to their biggest critics within NATO. So if you caught a Russian sub messing with the main gas pipeline from Norway to the Netherlands and Poland, it is time to turn on the active sonar, fire some warning shots, and if that doesn't work then you need to fire the real thing.

@tedferkin Год назад

As regards UK Defence spending. The economy needs to be boosted, the UK should increase domestic defence spending, encourage others to do the same, and increase our export defence capabilities. I'm never one of for warmongering, but increasing our capabilities, would bring stability to the world. Britain has been at the forefront of world military power, and although some of their actions have been detrimental, the general trend has been with strong powers such as the UK, there is less conflict. Both China and Russia are destabilising powers as they look to project power onto their neighbours in resource grabs, rather than aiding the flow of trade.

@The_ZeroLine Год назад

27:11 - what was going on there? They didn’t look like sea probes. Looked like some sort of energy cell.

@burhanbudak6041 Год назад

I'm sure a Fulton recovery system would be useful.

@cannonfodder4376 Год назад

In the North Pole, things can only go South. Another informative video Chris.

@perun814 8 месяцев назад

first germany then russia. thats the policy. in fact german and russian have been adopted as secondary languages in usa. especially in us military

@xubinyang5 Год назад

谢谢！

@MilitaryAviationHistory Год назад

别客气!

@julianshepherd2038 Год назад

Everything goes south from the North Pole

@Idahoguy10157 Год назад

Does the US Marines still have prepositioned equipment in Norway for a Brigade?

@williamvorkosigan5151 Год назад

0:47 Look at how that one disruptive pattern fits all theatres works. Nothing to do with saving money. The best that technology could come up with to keep our soldiers unseen on the battlefield.

@frenstcht Год назад

Turn on the headlights, go inside have a cup of coffee and smoke a cigarette or two, and then the engine should start right up. That's the F-35 problem sorted. How else can I help?

@Breznak Год назад

Did you cut out a joke at the beginning, when you said that thing in the Arctic could go south? I saw the look on your face. Pitty, I'd genuinly like to hear you elaborate on the topic!

@FlyingProbe Год назад

Doesn't all that is in the Arctic go south, no matter where it wants to go?

@chaosXP3RT Год назад

The US Army "Spartan Brigade" 2nd Infantry Brigade Combat Team, 11th Airborne Division are a unit of paratroopers that are based in Alaska and train specifically to parachute into the Arctic and fight. It's badass, but I do not envy them at all

@gikaradi8793 Год назад

operation : Pink Artic fox II

@TysoniusRex Год назад

"...the potential for everything to go south very, very quickly." Well, that would follow: Once you're at the North Pole, there's nowhere to go but south, really.

@Ostwind1944_ Год назад

could you make a video about the air defense of the reich at some point? i would love to see your in depth studying applied to this topic

@Seth90 Год назад

00:33 ... uff

@pauldorfman701 Год назад

Lucky for us Russian hardware doesn’t perform in warm weather how will it perform in arctic conditions.

@anthonyjackson280 Год назад

I am Canadian. I have to remind people we share a boarder with Russia. One can imagine Vladdy deciding to 'liberate' our Northern Inuit and First Nations people from imperialism,; after all the most common hypothesis is that their ancestors came from Siberia. When asked why my reply is sovereignty over the Northwest Passage as it becomes more navigable. Russian submarines are already violating it. Extremely unlikely but is imaginable.

@gordonwallin2368 Год назад

The first time anyone went through the "Northwest Passage" was by an RCMP small ship, the"St. Roch",in 1948. Not even Cpts Cook or Vancouver, or Cortes. Did it. And the Franklin Expedition was an even bigger disaster. So the Polar Arctic has always seemed, Canadian. And Canada is one of the founding members of NATO. (Demark claims some Polar sovereignty, but Canada has islands bigger than Denmark, so they can take a walk.) Now there're cruise ships going there because of climate change and America Nuclear subs are always showing up in Arctic waters for photops. (We don't have good submarines, we bought some from Bitian and, think they have Lucas electrics, so nothing works.) Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.

@CthulhuInc Год назад

what, you couldn't find any canadians to talk to about this? 😊

@warpartyattheoutpost4987 Год назад

Cold War.

@typxxilps Год назад

who needs to discuss the arctic while the baltic sea could not be protected ?

@beepboop204 Год назад

*nervous canadian noises*

@kindnuguz Год назад

28:40 encrypted vpn connections between the operator and device.. and on higher or lower frequencies and even other unknown laser type frequencies. technology is rapidly advancing and cutting off the adversary from future technologies is key.. ( up until the Ukraine invasion we were sharing with the adversary, we know now we have to stop ) In the tech world, don't blink because in 1 year things will change.. So I argue against this mans statements about uncrewed platforms. 32:00 seeing as Putin is thinking this is 1942, has anyone ever thought "what if China wanted Russia's resources and land" and invaded Russia? What would NATO do then? I'm just thinking 1942 and Russia as the Germans lol In all seriousness China would overwhelmingly benefit from Russia's oil and gas vs a tiny island. I don't know if I would want NATO to get involved in that situation lol think about it.. lol

@zaco-km3su Год назад

This explains why Canada was so eager to help Ukraine initially. It was more eager to help Ukraine than the US initially. This also explains why the US has "reactivated" the 11th Airborne Division which is now an Arctic Airborne Division.

@piotrd.4850 Год назад

Well, Canada has significant Ukrainian diaspora.

@adambester3673 Год назад

Canada is obviously not ready for an invasion especially from the north, but seeing how badly russian logistics failed in Ukraine, Imagine how hard they would fail in arctic Canada.

@MartianLivesMatter Год назад

Ofcourse the English have been to the Artic with their army. Where hasn't English colonialism been?

@imperialinquisition6006 Год назад

Surely it was either a more modern military exercise or exploration, which has improved peoples understanding of the region? What does it have to do with colonialism?

@imperialinquisition6006 Год назад

But it hasn’t been to quite a lot of the world, seems like a bit of a pointless question. I guess it’s been to about 1/4 of the world plus maybe another 1/4 that failed, not sure though.

@MartianLivesMatter Год назад

@@imperialinquisition6006 he mentioned they'd been up there hundreds of years ago. And the question was rhetorical.

@MrSpritzmeister Год назад

@@MartianLivesMatter when you use rhetorical questions badly it leaves room to respond.

@MartianLivesMatter Год назад

@@MrSpritzmeister well its as they say, the sun never sets on red.

@williamtell5365 Год назад

it's a dangerous issue but consider Alaska, Canada, Denmark, Norway and Finland all have immediate access to the Arctic. And greater technological capability. Russia hardly owns the place.

@Nikolay_Slavov Год назад

Very clickbaity thumbnail and video title. Clever.

@dans8612 Год назад

Why isn't Germany paying for the majority of this conflict?

@BW022 Год назад

I don't see it as a major problem. Given that Russia is so hard pressed to fight a land war on their border with Ukraine, I don't see them having any real capacity to conduct operations up there. There is nothing to attack, occupy, etc. Going after ships? There aren't many up there, none are important, and they can easily be re-routed. More over, if Russia wants to disrupt international shipping, its submarines could easily hit ships nearly anywhere and there are a lot more important shipping lanes. It is unlikely that Russia will survive as it is past the end of the decade -- if that long. The war costs, manpower losses, sanctions, companies pulling out, Europe getting itself off Russian natural gas, etc. will cripple it long before that.

@fanamlawuli6761 Год назад

Instead of supplying 300 million European market, Russia is now supplying 3.2 billion market of China and India, think carefully about that

@KitagumaIgen Год назад

Step one: Don't deploy English people inside the Arctic circle until Shackelton is reincarnated.

@PhilOutsider Год назад

@manout-kidin8735 Год назад

Ehh . We should be preparing for moon 🌒 knock-out match

@aon10003 Год назад

This is like someone who cant maintain hs house butstill insists of buying another one.

@DingoAteMeBaby Год назад

sounds like US has the only real force that can operate up there, sans submarines.

@mikemontgomery2654 Год назад

I’m sorry, “climate change” is not an excuse here. That same argument being used to highlight the “opening up” of the arctic, is also the same argument people are using to deny military rearmament. Just look at Canada as a prime example of that hypocrisy. Arctic defence has always been a challenge and should’ve always been a priority for NATO, regardless of any existential boogeymen being used. Edit: Northern defence has been pretty good on the NATO side, since the end of the Cold War. That’s not to say they cannot ramp it up but, that will only happen on a per need basis.

@montazvideo Год назад

I love when melting ice and extreme cold go one nicely with each other in analysis. I think we should decide which is it. I know Al Gore won an Nobel for opening our eyes that in 2013 there will be NO ice caps at all, so if we live till that date we may face a very brutal conflict there in extreme cold.

@chloehennessey6813 Год назад

In the Arctic it’s just too damn cold. Your equipment will break. You will break. Everything reacts differently in the extreme cold. I remember visiting Ft Greely and seeing a solid metal rod like 100mm thick snap like a twig at 60 below. “Climate change”. Aren’t we still warming up from the last ice age 10,000 years ago? Isn’t calling it climate change kind of a misnomer?

@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368 Год назад

We are also warming outside geologic trends. Since the Industrial Revolution. Alarmingly fast.

@johanmetreus1268 Год назад

"Aren’t we still warming up from the last ice age 10,000 years ago? Isn’t calling it climate change kind of a misnomer?" Svalbard has thawed enough that mudslides is a serious issue for the global seed bank there. Sweden's highest point is now the second highest due to melting. Check how the tourist ski-resorts on the Alps are doing and why that is. I'd say the answers to your questions are "not for a while" and "certainly not".

@TheNapalmFTW Год назад

G-I-UK gap

@petersellers9219 Год назад

Definitely the Ukrainians holiday makers who did the pipeline.

@glennedgar5057 Год назад

There was a movie in the 1970s ww3, and the writings in the usn procedings about the military threat to the artic from Russian Artic ground forces. Consider two areas. Alaska/Canada and Norway. In the Alaskan front the US has only an artic airbourne regiment plus the Alaska Scouts to cover western and northern Alaska. The oil industry on the Northshore could be destroyed with hit and run raids. This would include the McKenize Delta which is host to a Canadian oil industry. The second front would be Norway. Much of Northern Norway would be hard to defend with the current troop levels. As with Alaska a lot of infrastucture could be taken out by hit and run raids. As far as tapering with data lines is a little rich. US subs have been doing it for 50 years. And let us not forget the North Stream pipeline which is most likely blown up by Anglo-Us forces. ( After the investigation no news. If there was a shred of evidence that the Russians did it, then there would be a major news push)

@purplefood1 Год назад

I don't think Norway and Alaska are as vulnerable as you're making out, they may only be lightly defended (Alaska does have a number of airbases and Russia doesn't have any ports in the arctic ocean that far east just the pacifics so either way it's a long way to go to attack) but they're also not exactly easy places to attack. A land invasion via north Norway would guarantee Finland and Sweden as enemies and also is just an incredibly shit idea, it's incredibly mountainous terrain and there aren't that many roads. Also you may as well say China blew the nordstream as it has just as much evidence pointing to it as the UK/US

@The_ZeroLine Год назад

Despite its lack of arctic expertise compared to N/S/F, once again, an over dependence on American hardware is a glaring weakness for NATO. As much as I hate the man, the only thing DJT ever rightly pointed out was the imbalance in NATO investment. Europe reaped the peace dividend to the maximum. The US saw none of it yet were vilified while also being depended on by many in Europe.

@SaxonSuccess Год назад

What "climate change"?

@johanmetreus1268 Год назад

The one screwing winters up here in the north: Abisko losing the permafrost, Kebenekaise no longer the highest point, Vasaloppet having to use artificial snow, the global seed repository in Svalbard threatened by mudslides.

@davidsuzukiispolpot Год назад

@@johanmetreus1268 When I was in school, they taught us that global cooling was going to trigger the next ice age. Now the global warming is taking that time period as the starting point so of course relative to that cold period it is warmer now.

@johanmetreus1268 Год назад

@@davidsuzukiispolpot Of course. Problem isn't the change in itself though, but at what speed it happens. The sharper the transit is, the more difficult it is to adapt to the new circumstances regardless if fauna or flora.

@doctorbritain9632 Год назад

This must all be fake. The artic melted in 2012.....

@somewhere6 Год назад

The Maldives also disappeared in 2000 but then...

@doctorbritain9632 Год назад

@@somewhere6 exactly

@davidsuzukiispolpot Год назад

Where is Al Gore when you need him? Oh yes, flying on his private jet eating caviar on his way to arrange that we can't drive more than 15 minutes from our home and must eat bugs instead of meat!!!

@stever2583 Год назад

Why does your guest not know of Canada's presence in the high Arctic? Seems if he is an expert he would know... More BS I see! What a prat. Canada uses people who understand the cold - the same people who have words for over 200 types of snow. The second world war is over - the UK should stick with pontificating as opposed to getting the way. This dude has no idea of the North...

@t.a.7970 Год назад

Less of the "Going south" stuff please. Leave our hemisphere out of it thanks.

@hlynnkeith9334 Год назад

3 minutes in and Arun Dawson has cited 'climate change' twice. I'm out.

@davidsuzukiispolpot Год назад

Necessary to get promoted on the algorithm? Anyway, it is necessary code now, just like praising your allegiance to God and country used to be. These people say it just like breathing; they don't think about it or necessarily believe it, it is just underlying fact to them. I hope that means they could be deprogrammed one day.

@bigboi7817 Год назад

Bro if I keep seeing germans war mongering Im gonna come over there and show you why you lost the world wars.

@piotrd.4850 Год назад

Germany army might have, Germany never did. Germany achievied all policy objectives and more after WW II. They killed of any chance of any competition form the East and dominated area, trade with Russia, achieved unquestioned supremacy on continent, broke competeing colonial powers (UK, France), are by far largest nation and largest economy in Europe, vital to world trade. They also made some crafty move in terms of historical policy, distancing themselvs from Nazis and pusihing blame around.

@ginacalabrese3869 Год назад

The protection of Europe is Germany's problem from now on. Enough American lives and money were spent last Century. If it wasn't for the Marshall Plan after WW2 Western Europe would be in the same economic conditions as Eastern Europe. Essentially 2nd world nations. Wealthy Germany runs the EU therefore this is Germany's problem....

@GrafZorn1337 Год назад

If it wasn't for the Marshall plan all western europe would probably speak russian today and america would by now have spent much more lifes to ensure its "safety". Think before you type.

@paulreynolds7103 Год назад

@@GrafZorn1337 true... Europe was a waste land after the Second World War🤷... USSR probably just roll those tanks on in there🤦😂

@Davey-Boyd Год назад

And exactly which Eastern Europe nations do you class as 2nd world nations? Many European countries were re-built without the Marshal Plan. And US money spent in the last century? Considering the US made a massive profit out of the death and destruction of WWII lol! Germany runs the EU? Since when? You want to get your historical and modern facts right before you start spouting your mouth off.

@ginacalabrese3869 Год назад

@@GrafZorn1337 So why isn't wealthy Germany taking the lead and fully paying for Western Europe's protection this time? They have the money for it but then they'd have to cut down on all those social programs they love to brag to Americans about.