@@jaylee9356 not really worth purchasing in the first place. It's unfortunate to hear that it hasn't arrived. His organization sounds like it's as bad as the product
Placed an order at the beginning of December, the email with tracking number was received on the junk folder then automatically deleted. I contacted them several times no response. Still didn’t receive my order and they didn’t respond to provide me with the tracking number so I can follow up.
I guess I am failing to see why someone wouldn’t just buy a normal 2 piece strap that looks more finished since you removed the whole reason of using a NATO which is to have a fail safe if a spring bar breaks.
Sorry to be blunt, but that it pointless. The whole purpose of a NATO strap is to save the watch when one spring bar breaks. This strap doesn’t do that, so you may as well wear a two-piece fabric strap.
Nato design singularly was to prevent the entire watch slipping off through loose fixed bar lugs that were common back in the day. That's the only reason for the extra strap and loop. There's a documentary about it.
@@Ipeacocks Nope. You need that pass through the bottom, otherwise any strap design would still require two spring bars to keep the watch on your wrist. With a normal NATO, the strap goes all the way around your wrist, and would stay on whether you had a watch attached to it or not, which is how 1 spring bar is enough to save the watch. The one in this video is basically turning a NATO strap into the same behavior as a normal two piece strap without being two pieces. Granted I don't think people have to worry much about spring bars coming loose, but all it takes is one time. Another benefit of the NATO is that the pressure amount and direction on the spring bar is pretty constant, which also means it's less likely to have wear and tear that can cause a spring to come loose. With a 2 piece strap, the strap uses the spring bar like a rotating hinge. With a NATO, the strap is generally just resting on the spring bar and putting some downward pressure. NATO's also don't just have one layer, but two, one above the spring bar that passes through and above the other spring bar, and one below that which passes under the spring bar. This is why if one spring bar comes off, the other one is still held.
LMAO… best comment on this video.. I came here to highlight the exact point in more blunt terms. As a busy dad who likes watches I can just imagine my child coming and knocking the spring out of my hand as I am trying to wear the watch in the morning. Nice attempt but with all the arguments of spring bar failure the day to day practicality of this doesn’t even work… Just don’t wear a watch if you’re that finicky
This defeats the purpose of using a Nato. Nato straps are tool straps to avoid your watch from falling off your wrist if one of the spring bars is busted. Makes no sense.
So basically you remove the intended functionality of the NATO and just focus on aesthetics. The antithesis of what a tool watch is all about but hey look, it’s thinner!!
One of my favorite features of NATO straps is that you don't have to remove spring bars to install them. So easy to change to a new strap every morning. Would love to see a version which can pass right through, without having to remove that one spring bar
Bro said “what if I ripped off a CNS Paratrooper strap… and made it worse?” 😮 Also, patent pending means nothing from a legal standpoint until it’s awarded.
I love how easy it is to change nato straps for different looks, I love knowing that 1 missing spring bar won't drop my watch, but these aren't essential for everyday. I do congratulate you on the innovation shown here in such an established form factor of a wristwatch. I'm looking forward to giving one a go 👌
Zero Point strap! None of the functionality of a real NATO strap and more inconvenient to wear than a conventional two piece strap. What is the value of a phoney military strap that can't be fitted to a fixed bar military watch and offers no protection if one of the (now exposed) spring bars fails on a civilian watch? Zero.
Not a fan of double pass natos. Single pass are amazing however. I think the beauty of a nato is being able to keep your watch safe in case of a spring bar failure.
1. There are single pass natos 2. That way of using a nato defeats the purpose of a nato strap. 3. If you still want to use a nato with 0 pass, there are 2-piece "nato" straps and you don't need that 2-layer strap on each side of the watch. Why would anybody go for this design beats me...
I had a spring bar snap off on a field excursion . My NATO saved my watch. NATOs aren’t about “ the look.” They are designed to save your watch in rugged outdoor activities. It was never designed for desk divers.
@@AndreiGeorgescu-j9p Due to the springbars, I have had my cheap seiko come off my wrist twice at work and hit the floor. If I was wearing my nato on those occasions it would not have fallen.
just buy normal straps?..... like i really don't see the appeal. you are just getting a thicker watch strap without any of the benefits of a true nato strap... if you just get normal leather or fiber watch straps you have the same thing in a thinner package. also, it took 3 years to make this?!?! could've been done in like 3 months tops lmfao
Very cool. For me though, I like NATO and MN straps because they remove the negative space between the spring bar and the case that you get with a leather band and some bracelets. This isn’t for me, but well done!
I just got my honey Dijon nylon in the mail and I LOVE it! I’m using it on my white dial Hamilton Khaki Field Expedition. It’s a perfect match. The mustard strap matches the faux lume on the hands. I had completely given up on NATO straps even though I love the look. Even a single pass feels weird on my wrist. I don’t care that the zero pass loses the feature of staying put if you break a spring bar. I don’t worry about that with my other 20 rubber, leather, and metal straps. In 50 years of wearing watches I’ve never had a spring bar fail. So why would I worry about it with this one? Max, you’ve created a total hit. Way to go!!!
So what’s the point?! Why not just get a regular thick strap? Excessive length, bulky wrist width, and still failed like any other single pass strap. At least the strap on the BB925 doesn’t have extra length. NATO straps are examples of form following function. This is talk but cannot walk. Who are these meant for? Stolen valor wrists? Disappointing.
But the point of a nato is security when spring bar failure occurs. You're basically complaining about a crucial feature of a nato as originally intended. A zero pass strap is not that different from a two piece nylon (looking like a nato). I appreciate the effort but this is fixing a non-existent problem.
People are angry because he has removed the functionality of the nato strap (he even mentions this) but kept the design and made it “look nicer”. He did what he set out to accomplish. He didn’t say it was made to work exactly like the nato strap…
I’m going to point out the obvious: this design forgoes the primary advantage of a nato/Zulu strap - if a single spring bar goes, so does the whole watch. I use natos when out on the water.
@@WatchCrunchOfficial honestly, I got about half way through before clicking away because IMHO it was all a little ridiculous. I did see that it was mentioned, but I’d already written the comment and still believe it stands. You can buy a regular watch strap made of nylon for a nato appearance if you don’t want the underpass. The whole thing smacks of solving a problem that doesn’t exist, or if you want to put it another way, solving a problem that’s already been solved but doing it in an alternative and inferior way. No matter how you slice it, I wouldn’t consider the new thing to be superior in any way to any of the alternative old things. And it eliminates the primary advantage of the old solution. No matter how I look at it, the new thing doesn’t have a purpose, IMO. And it specifically eliminates a purpose of the old thing. But hey, the world is full of all kinds. If you can sell something to them, what do I care? I’m not buying it. 🤷
You’ve totally removed all the benefits of a true NATO type strap. As far as the so called feeling of the strap under the watch I don’t find it noticeable As far as fitting under a cuff you’re version doesn’t eliminate it either being just as bulky if not more so on the sides. A nato isn’t meant to be worn with a dress shirt.
On the face of it, it's a, cool idea but when I think about it, it doesn't really make sense. We use NATO style straps in particularly rough environments and have to put up with the wierd loop and keeper at the side of the wrist as a, trade off for keeping the watch on your wrist if you lose a spring bar. There's no real point in having that awkward looking piece if you're not going to have the protection. It's better to buy a good standard canvas or nylon strap as it just looks better. Or, cut off the double pass bit or use an original single pass while still having the safety with a bit less bulk under the watch. A good quality single pass or a cut away NATO will not feel flimsy at all. What we have here is a strap that's not very esthetic but it doesn't provide the safety. It's basically an ugly looking strap with no real benefit with unnecessary bulk on your wrist for no good reason.
The most useless idea in horology! Lol you have a nato strap that doesn’t protect your watch in case of a failed spring bar... so only for looks? Might as well get a normal two piece strap! Also why would you want the bulk on the side of a nato strap? You have all the disadvantages and none of the advantages lmao...
Folks, check out the Zuludiver Octopod. It is clean, has no foldovers or hangers, and has the convenience and security of a milled bracelet clasp. Please pass on the ribbed straps because they are stiff and a PITA for exchanges. The standard and elastic straps are fantastic. Brilliant clasp concept.
I have the Anachronist strap. Like with most things, there are pros and cons to it. My Omega spring bars are pretty sturdy, and I’m a desk diver. I’m not super worried about it.
I completely see the purpose of this strap, ESPECIALLY for fixed bar watches that have no risk of having a spring-bar failure. Ignore the detractors, Max! The Zero Pass straps have purpose!
There's a way to mount a NATO strap with only "one" pass underneath without compromising the integrity of the strap. I will try one for "fashion/comfort only" and to support the channel. I also respect new ideas.
Criticism of the NATO strap is totally unjustified. Cutting the extra strap defeats the purpose of keeping the watch away from the wrist to allow ventilation and lessen sweating. Also the watch can be stowed by reverse looping and it provides substantial cover for the front and back of the watch when kept with other items in the bag or pocket. It's the ultimate utilitarian strap.
Sorry, but all you did is to defeat the purpose of a NATO or Zulu strap. Now if a spring bar breaks, the watch falls off your wrist. Recommend a Zulu strap for one layer below the watch OR the alternate method of attaching a standard NATO that again is only one layer below the watch which also has the added benefit of now moving the strap to the bottom of the wrist versus on the outside, which is just plain annoying.
You've invented..... a normal watch strap. You eliminated some problems but completely overlooked on your watch and a nato that a tucked big lump of strap at the end is the naffest look out there, like abysmally bad.
The point of this Zero Pass is keep the NATO appearance once installed, but without the buck under the clock. This Grappleband, the CNS Paratrooper strap, the "RAF strap"... avoid the bulk, but don't have the same appearance of the NATO strap - after all people buy NATO strap due their look.
I would love a zero pass leather strap for the FXD. Would you consider doing removable hardware to make it fixed lug compatible for the future? Look at what Erika’s and Nick Manley designs do for fixed lug compatibility if that helps
The Watch Steward has been making a strap basically like this for ages. It just doesn't have the loop keepers and instead has an MN clasp. But still, pretty much the same thing.
Max, honestly this looks pretty intricate to put on every morning. Maybe needs some practice. It eliminates the safety advantages of a NATO but is still bulky, only flipped the double layer UNDER your wrist. I would prefer an innovative flat strap under my wrist when working in the office. Most of my NATOs wear good and fill the space under the lugs, so the watches sit very well (better than with single layer straps). I think I recall a similar strap technique (with leather) at a 1940s vintage watch I got offered in Switzerland about 25 years ago. Interesting you had the same idea now. Colors and designs look great and prices are ok too (my NATOS are between 12,- and 200€) Wishing you a perfect start!
Personally the reason I like a NATO is because of the functionality and security. I do a lot of camping and bang my watch around. And IMHO the Achilles Heel of a watch is the spring bar. If that breaks you're screwed. I lost a nice watch that I really liked do to that very reason. I like the NATO's security. (I've also stopped wearing an expensive specialty 'field watch' watch for that very reason. Timex Expedition Indiglo for me now when camping). Your single pass is interesting and probably worth trying so I will take a look at it. And your honesty about the potential drawback of the zero pass is much appreciated. But, if you have a thin enough traditional NATO woven nylon strap the double pass under the case back should not be an issue, eh? However, innovation is always a good thing and I applaud you for your ingenuity. I wish you much success.
I actually do manual labor daily while wearing nice German, Japanese and Swiss watches. I like my watches to be used and aged as functional tools rather than status jewelry . I pop spring bars regularly. I also use my dive watches to dive, and have likewise popped spring bars under water. A NATO is a functional tool for me. This idea is the equivalent of pumping fake motor noise through speakers in a modern Porsche. There will be a guy who loses his Rolex because of this idea.
Three years and a bunch of money lost. Nice development, I do enjoy how you stuck with this project even though it is a true failure. You definitely should have done some real world testing for feedback. Appears that this design was a dream project that blinded you from the reality of what people want and the design. Come out with a two piece. Perhaps that is a much better business model. T)
We're thrilled to have had the opportunity to collaborate with you on this exciting new project! 🙌This design is bound to reshape people's perceptions of NATO straps, without a doubt!
@@WatchCrunchOfficial brooo you're getting destroyed in the comments. Apparently the poor folk who paid months ago have not even received it!!! And your product is crap. It's a sad sad day in the watch world.
Would love for someone to design a nato strap where the “bulk” resides on the underside of the wrist rather than on the side. Especially for a small wrist like mine where you have to tuck the end of the strap in that extra bulk above the 12 o’clock looks unsightly when you’re looking at the watch imo
Is this a joke? Anyone can mod a NATO to get this look if that’s what they want. James Stacey from Hodinkee did an entire how to video a year ago. And it’s free😊
Nice one Max, this is a great option for those watches on the thicker side who love the versatility of a NATO. Well done, I hope the sales go well. I'm certainly interested.
You can just buy a 2 piece “nato” it’s clear to look at that it’s not an actual nato and you lose all the benefits. So may as well just go with a 2 piece as all this is doing is simulating a 2-piece
Fun idea! It looks like you took the single pass NATO strap and widened the inner loop to allow the hand to pass through. The tradeoff from a practicality standpoint is reasonable (just look at any standard watch strap and if a spring bar breaks the watch will fall), but I think the fact that you have to slide your hand through before tightening (as opposed to just slapping it on your wrist) makes this more of a difficult sell (Apple does this with their elastic bands, but now there is the added complexity of tightening it down). Could you have achieved a similar aesthetic result (and I guess conventional result if we're considering the weight distribution) with a conventional 2-piece fabric strap by just doubling the layers?
This is a "solution" to a problem that doesn't exist. The NATO strap serves a specific purpose, and what you invented only mimics the look of the NATO without offering its benefits. In that case, I'd rather use the original bracelet of the watch, which is more visually appealing.
