Navia Skill Damage Weapon Comparison - Tidal Shadow R5 & Ultimate Overlord's MMS | Genshin Impact 

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Shes not childe tho

@@SkyCha0sMy Navia has 80 crit rate and my Neuvillette with 45 crit rate crits more than she ever has. She is basically the Childe of my account.

I lucked out with C2 in 60 pulls, crit rate who is she?

​@@SkyCha0sfemale childe of geo.

ur pfp..

Yes it does matter since defense scales hard with levels especially to enemies but then again it doesn’t matter since you’ll get the event weapon for free

Glad I could help!

hahahaha nice tho

With Bennet instead If qiqi should also be really way better, no?

I would prefer event weapon, because it gives solid atk than tidal shadow which need your character to be healed all the time to maximaze it ATK. I think skyward claymore R1 is less suitable than the other 2 weapon with their R5. Because the ATK given from skyward claymore is not much. You can also see the comparison from ATK stat. If the skyward claymore ATK stat is more than the other 2, then u better use it.

Ultimate Overlord's Mega Magic anytime of the day cuz it doesn't need any special condition to get that 48 % attack buff and the cherry on the topping is that it looks great on her. If you already have a r5 max levelled Tital Wave and don't want to spend resources on UOMM then it's entirely upto you if you want to use it on Navia.

Skyward all the way. People underestimate it so bad. With 674 base attack, it will give you almost as much attack as tidal shadow or Overlord sword. Skyward immediately also gives you enough energy recharge, plus a 8% damage bonus. Finally, the vaccum blades in her normal attacks will be hitting like 6-10k, enough to make up for the damage loss in comparison to tidal R5.

Skyward R1 doing the same damage as event weapon R5, i see that in youtube

@@rlifeh I see, that's nice

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Tidal shadow wins if you want that for big damage. Ultimate mega is for consistent damage.

same bro i lost her to keqing on both of my accounts lol

If that’s the case then no weapon in this game can be compared unless they have the same effect which would be pointless, it is comparable because the entire purpose is to judge the damage, one giving er is only significant for her burst which isn’t what’s being compared here

They are both f2p weapons so they are the most comparable things ever

@@crownedking_cj8890 nah. Take a look at navia’s other weapons for example. Serpent spine vs her signature weapon comparison. That’s a viable damage comparison bc they’re both weapons focused solely on damage stats. You can’t compare an ER weapon’s damage to a weapon that provides solely damage stats bc ER weapons aren’t for damage. If you were comparing how good they are for the character that’s a different story. But if you are comparing damage, obviously an ER sub stat weapon is going to do worse than damage oriented sub stat. That’s why I’m saying you can’t really compare it. It’s like saying who is a better electro support, fischl or kuki. You can’t compare them bc they do 2 completely different things. Its the same with weapons.

@@jisatsusaru2483 not for a damage comparison. Read my response to the other guy

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yeah

tidal shadow is better if you heal her and then do damage. otherwise melusine weapon

the difference is not significant. You can see the difference in the ATK stats, to see which one is better

Glad it was helpful!

Go for tidal shadow

So it skyward better than ultimate?

No it does not

@@VanguardJr_ but what about using her with furina?

You're so welcome!🎉

That's kinda hard to compare, considering the crit issue she had 🤣

It's ok tho, i'm not using signature artifact either. R5 Melusine is giving more stable Dmg than R5 tidal shadow. R5 Tidal shadow can give bigger Dmg than R5 melusine but Navia must get healed first to achieved it.

less effort with melusine weapon, also energy recharge substat is great

from the event, same way to get the weapon

Yes, R5 give more Dmg

Damn...

Yea u can achieve more with full stack furina buff

You don't need 2 different elements as the passive is listed this way (copying and pasting the effect word for word): For each Pyro/Electro/Cryo/Hydro party member, Navia gains 20% increased ATK. This effect can stack up to 2 times. The way it's written is all you need is 2 of any of those 4 elements and they can be of the same element to get the full effect so she could go 2 Pyro and get both the Pyro res and 40% from the passive. For it to require 2 different elements it would've needed additional lines saying something like the 2 stacks must come from having characters of different elements or only 1 stack can exist from one element type at a time (that's how they require Neuv to need 3 elements or the enemy to have an element you don't have already applied to them via enivronment/their own shields to trigger a third stack from reactions as each stack was independent from each other). Granted going with say Bennet and then Furina may be better as Furina's burst just gives an overall damage buff but if you have high enough ER on her and have E1 even with tidal shadow and no ER sands you can get her burst back on cooldown almost all the time (I can anyway, wound up getting her 2x in the same 10 pull so while I didn't plan to get the ER it was a nice boost) so you could even work her with being the only Geo character get Furina and then 2 Pyro characters to get the Pyro resonance as well and her bursts + e skill infused normal attack after bursts give enoguh shells rotation should be enough to get all 6 shells per e skill. To note with E1 I have 145 is ER so if you're E0 you may want a bit more than that in sub stats if you were to use Tidal shadow/a non ER% weapon.

and if does the "UOMMG" has that full 48% attack percentage by helping them melusines

From the event, same way to get the weapon

Overlord ❤

And how do you See how much ATK Bonus you get from it?:o

@@seraphim3525 u cant if u want u need to equip and unequip and do some math... but if u wanna know whether u have max passive... u can notice small melusin faces poping on ur sword (when its in ur back)

I believed it's full stack, why?

​@@VanguardJr_you did all the melusine quest right?

​@@VanguardJr_if you did then no worries

@@brrruuuh7573 yea, I did it all 👍

@@VanguardJr_ i'm still doing sumeru quest right now, that melusine sword says up to an additional 24% so the max stat is 48% right? my question is, how many melusine should i help to get max additional stat ?

Mega magic if u already completed all the melusines quest. Cuz it gives extra ER

Even R1 gravestone is better than the event weapon or tidal, I have them all. But Redhorn is even better than R1 gravestone... not sure if R3.

Ohk thanks

@@chiyolatehow does WG R1 fare against the unforged when shielded? would really appreciate the answer

@@squawk89 Navia's skill DMG at full stack + Furina's buff full stack + Geo resonance buffs + Bennett's buffs (154% base cdmg): WG R1 (enemy above 30%HP) = 239773 WG R1 (enemy below 30%HP) = 260468 (only every 30s) Unforged R1 (shielded, full stacks) = 250120 Unforged R1 (no shield, full stacks) = 239773 Unforged R1 (no stack) = 229425 R5 Event weapon = 222051 R1 Tidal = 221736 R5 Tidal = 232885 R1 Redhorn = 262979 The problem with Unforged I think, you need to hit a few times before casting her E, to get the extra atk bonus, which is not convenient...

@@chiyolate wow, that was a very keqingmains worthy reply. really appreciate it, man!

If u just want to nuke dmg, try using mona and food buff :v

Crown, farm artifacs, and pull for her best supports. No way around that, every F2P you watched did most of those things. You can also do it.

If you want to try to get to high dmg nuking I may be able to help you, I have crowned c6 Bennett with skyward blade and a crowned Mona, so if you can use a 3rd support character then we could try to break that barrier, I usually would help better but Mona c1 does not help and my c2 Kazuha does not do anything at all (I play in America if you want my help for that)

mine doing 260k dmg with benny+mona and blackcliff slasher r1. skill 6 9 2. i don't have good artifacts on her so she will improve even more.

i've found peace, as i watched a video with a navia that only does 170k damage still doing pretty decent in the abyss. like, a respectable time. i think i can have fun with mine even if she isn't that strong, when she comes. she should just come home already 😎

to heal and trigger tidal shadow's passive effect

Yea better focus on the crit rate

bruh

U need to get full stack and use the skill as close as you can with the enemy

From that video, Its 2 set Atk% and 2 set Geo dmg bonus with crit ratio on description

Crit Rate : 63.7% Crit Dmg : 172.3%

I'm sorry, it's Crit Rate : 63.7% Crit Dmg : 172.3%

@@VanguardJr_ is there a way i can contact you like on insta or discord i want to discuss about navia . like artifacts and stuff i cant hit 100k with my elemental skill

Yea sure, what's ur discord I'll add you Are u using bennet and full stack? Also u need to use skill as close as u can to enemy to maximize the damage

@@VanguardJr_ "wannabeaalu"

I already added

As f2p, i think raiden will be better options because she is a good dps in open world and abyss, she also fit in manh team comps, and its easy to build her, but i dont go against if you're pulling for navia too.

Both are good tho, but I think Navia is one of the top tier DPS now. But Raiden shogun is more flexible, she can become DPS or sub DPS. Also good if you have hyperbloom team/national team for her. It's kinda hard to decide tho, ngl Maybe you should decide it based on playstyle or waifu you like :D

It's a tough choice. Shogun is an amazing support in addition to being a DPS. On the other hand, my Navia already does more damage with her skill than my shogun does with her burst, and I've had shogun for a year lol

​@@Crab380i don't have both of them but I'm guaranteed my next pull... Navia and Raiden which one should I pick??... already pre-farmed for Raiden

@@sirgentle3467 if you prefarmed raiden then ofc go for raiden cuz otherwise the resin you spent will become useless Navia is a fontaine character so she will rerun within 4-5 patches for sure because all sumeru characters that were released during sumeru arc got at least 1 rerun before sumeru arc ended in 3.8 so we can expect the same for fontaine characters but as for raiden she will appear directly during Natlan arc so you will have to wait a longer time go for shogun dont let your resin go to waste save for navia rerun