The point of practice is to ensure the pilot has muscle memory to minimize the damage, and the courage to eject. Not to demonstrate the physical injuries that may follow from saving one's own life.
Its a serious issue...ejection of seat is the last thing you want to do. Some pilots lost their legs forever due to severe spine damage. Once you are done with seat ejection, it will take 6 months for the pilot to fly back again. The above things I heard from a air force pilot during an interactive conversation with him. The ejection force is twice than what they have shown in this video.
This seat trainer looks just like the one in NAS Pensacola. That one did about 3.2ish Gs and looks just as fast as this trainer. Real ejection should be about 12Gs.
The ejection seat fires thrusters to put the seat in an attitude where the velocity vector goes through the bottom of the seat. They still get smashed with air and the deceleration is very rough on the body. Many pilots lose consciousness from g forces, wind shear and high altitudes
@@vapeurdepisse air at 200 mph is as thick as custard that's why normal super cars won't break 300mph now imagine going 1-2k mph and needing to eject. The force of hitting the air can be fatal
Ejections are no joke. On the B1 bomber, Ejection seats are 60 ft pounds of pressure exerted within milliseconds . We had a Lt Colonel that ejected 2times. Both were aircraft related issues. Dude lost 5 inches in height. The last ejection while I was in was over Montana due to a cowling fire That suppression systems couldn’t put out, 2 crew members had broken legs from hitting the roof because the ejection doors were only so big. Also B1’s have leg straps because of that issue, that go over your ankles so when you pull the ejection handle it pulls your legs in and tucks them under the seat a bit. Also due to the size of the vertical stabilizer the jet ejects you up and slightly to the side. So it’s an odd trajectory for sure. We even had maintenance crew members due from not saving seats while working and being jettisoned while on the ground. Not enough time for the Shute to deploy while strapped to a few hundred pound seat that doesn’t stay upright. Let alone that’s if you make it out of the roof hole since you usually aren’t strapped in while working you would get cut in half sandwiches between the seat and the tiny hole in the roof.
My last duty station was Mountian Home. I was a flight sergon medic with 34th bomb sq, B1's . We usually did see loss of height after ejection due to compression fractures of the spine. At least they were still alive, not all make it after ejection. I still have some sceans in my mind of aircraft accidents that haunt me.
What would happen if you turned the plane upside down before ejecting? Would you be subject to less pressure? This way gravity would work with you, not against you
@@yadusolparterre it's not the gravity that's the issue. It's the wind resistance while going fast horizontally (the planes velocity) and the fast and sudden velocity going vertical (ejector seat) You have massive wind resistance giving huge downward force. When the pilot is shot through that it's like shooting a bullet underwater. Only the bullet in this case is a human body body. If ejected upside down it's worse. Your looking at more vertical force since your shooting into gravity on top of the bad scenario of being upside down strapped to 100 lbs rock with your chute opening into you. These things are designed to shoot upward, so if your upside down being catapulted to the earth, you'd have to readjust, which leads another bad scenario of a spin out
And then your beloved country and government doesn’t give a fuck if you get permanent bodily damage or die. They used you for their own selfish goals having absolutely nothing to do with “freedom” or “liberty” and now that you’re no longer of any use to them, they discard you like you’re nothing... And all those crooks had to do to dupe you into signing your life away to them was tell you that you’ll be a “hero”.
@@gigachadov8156 is war, a hell in earth, always will die innocents, But all those thousands of innocents are also war heroes without wanting it and thanks to this, MILLIONS are saved, including us. Unfortunately, this is our world, it is unfair, but all those soldiers often do not go because they want to. Their families also suffer and many do not return home either 😓💔
@@cherryblack2859 How do they save you if they are fighting on another continent? Syria, Libya, and others were a threat to the United States? They fight there for oil, so that giant corporations get richer, and American propaganda sponsored by these corporations is brainwashing Americans.
@@gigachadov8156 no the war in the middle east was fueled by the very real threat of terrorists after the happening of 9/11, since then the us has put a great deal of pressure on terrorist organizations to prevent attacks on us soil
People are talking about how it's way too slow Of course it is, they're gonna use compressed air because it's more controllable and less violent, real seats use rockets and usually heavily injure the pilot, they don't want that. They just want the pilot to feel comfortable with ejecting. Should they want to get a more accurate trainer they would need to have real rockets, matching the wield of the actual seats, have a super long pole to keep them centered when ejecting and be able to controllably bring them back down, and have a bunch of fucking seats. Those rockets are one time use, compressed air is easy to re use because 1, it's air, 2, you just need to compress it. Oh and let's not forget about the countless medical treatments for squished spines.
Look, you chairforce people, it's not a simulator. It's a trainer. Yes an actual ejection is considerably more energetic and damaging to the pilot, but you're not going to break a new pilot just to demonstrate it. They do this so when the pilot is in that situation they have the muscle memory to keep their arms and legs out of the way and their neck aligned so they don't snap anything.
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Its something you cant simulate as for the pilot it feels like being hit by a train at supersonic speed very much like "when an unstoppable force hits an Immovable object. The chances for the pilot to survive in one piece is very very less depending upon the ejection scenario.
True it’s not the ejection that kills it’s hitting the wind at that speed. One pilot who survived said it ripped him apart and his nerves were taking from his leg to his face to regain feeling and had many facial reconstructions. Super slim chance to live through the process.
@@sen_hei417 The SR-71 breakup over the Nevada desert. Plane literally peeled itself away like a banana at I believe Mach 2.5 or Mach 3, and the ejection seats deployed and pilot reported feeling like he was hit by a train because of the sheer air friction of him hitting the wind. Co-Pilot died on eject because his neck was snapped from the immense G forces he pulled.
This simulation pictures the condition that normal, i mean, plane go straight everything ok..in real situation, your plane can be hit and lost control. Turn upside down, right and left, going spiral and you decided to eject than you will break your bones cause by the effect of your uncontroable plane
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I’ve been to the house of the person who invented the ejector seat. His daughter who’s quite elderly sometimes resides there. It’s in the Binfield area of Berkshire UK. The estate and grounds are huge
Apparently people in the comments want the pilot to undergo the stresses of an actual ejection, causing lasting damage to his limbs and spine during training for absolutely no reason. This is simply to ascertain the pilot’s knowledge of ejection procedures and develop the pilot’s muscle memory to do it for real if the time comes. The Navy is not spending millions of dollars on a pilot just to compress his backbone during a mundane annual training exercise.
When they closed Williams in the early 90’s, the training center was relocated to Luke AFB. The equipment has all been upgraded, or traded out for newer equipment…but you’ll be happy to know my brother in law assures me that they still refer to it as the “Boombucket.” 😂
@@DrAnderson1 My dad was an F-86 IP at "Willy" in the mid to late 50's. I was a young'un then and actually got to see the "boombucket" in use. It was a great time to be an Air Force brat.
I’d love to go on a jet ride. I love heavy gs. It looks so fun. The crazy thing is, your vision becomes a tunnel and gets very limited from the gs because the force makes your pupils dilate really small and u can barley move. I have a huge respect for pilot’s. My ex boyfriend flew jets and I’ve seen the cabin videos. They hit 9 gs! It looked insane how fast the clouds fly by. No roller coaster has ish on that. ❤️❤️❤️
An air force vet came to our school to recruit. Said you had to be under 5 10 in height and can only eject live no more than 3 times because it elongates the spine and makes you grown a third of and in so 3 ejects would be 1 inch in height growth and your body would be changed
If they stared to train kids to fly early, and to develop strong spines using equipment like this, when they get ejected in real life there would be a much higher probability that the pilot does not sustain injury during a real ejection, which often occurs and unfortunately grounds very talented pilots, and in many cases permanently. A real ejection is far more violent than this machine is capable of. But after the correct impact training, you'd have some solid spines, which also helps any pilot handle g-forces better.
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I used to operate and maintain one of those. It looks like they've reduced to pressure though when I worked there it would ho about 50% higher than that.
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That was kool to see! I wondered how hard it shot them off. I was thinking kind of like the airbags we see on videos catapulting people up in the air with then back problems, but this does it in a controlled way. Thanks for this vid! 👍🏻
Bro most modern jets moving about mach 1, which is around 700ish mph (definitely not the exact numbers). Imagine getting thrown from your jet into that type of wind pressure. And if it’s raining forget it. It must feel like a bunch of tiny bullets hitting you for a little.
Pilots cannot eject the seat more than 3 times in their lifetime , because everytime he or she does, the lower back get so much pressure that of them can’t even walk for a while afterwards
It's more powerful than that. You can only eject from a jet 2 or 3 times in your career. They do that for your health because of the force and shock on the body.
Quit commenting about how the ejector is slower because of course they don't want to hurt the pilot. No one is arguing or commenting about how it's too slow.