ND3 Miata vs Porsche Cayman S: Street Driving Comparison 

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Right, I'm a 51 yr old female and I have the 2023 Mx 5 RF as of Oct. I had the a solstice in 2005 and this Mx 5 reminds me of it so much. I miss my Solstice more than the 2012 370z I had prior to the Mx 5. The solstice made me feel good how the seats just hugged me. I always felt like I was in a nascar race. The 370 felt cool too but in a different way. I was to scared to race at that point. I get more guys that pull upon me to race the mx 5 than the 370z. I'm pondering on getting a sticker inn the back that says ....OLD LADY ON BOARD!!! NOT TRYING TO RACE YOU BULLIES!!!! haha

Extend the porsche warranty or go to a specialist. Using prosche themselves to maintain the car is very expensive.

@@Jay-xr3sb No matter who does the maint on a Porsche it will be orders of magnitude more expensive than a Miata. Also, you can maintain a Miata yourself since it's such a simple car. Porsches are overly complex and nearly impossible to self maintain.

@@dlg5485 I agree that the porsche will be more, just saying u don't have to pay the rip off dealer prices. Took mine in for warranty work, they asked if they want me to clean the roof drain that's slightly blocked...for £570. I passed, online vids show its a 20min job at home. I can run the porsche warranty for 4 more years

I'm also getting and ND3 next Saturday, crazy to see how many people in the comments decided to go for the new Miata!

@@dlg5485no shit Sherlock. Because the Cayman is a Porsche lol, and the Miata is a Mazda. Big difference in quality. There’s also a MASSIVE difference in performance, and with performance comes more maintenance. This is literally not rocket science science lol

The Cayman S is a real performer with much higher limits

Glad you enjoyed!

Nice! What do you like and dislike about each?

@@QueTheChaotic there are no tracks where I live. The 718 is more fun on roads, much faster and more comfortable. Definitely feels more dialed in, although both are mostly stock. The mx5 is the icecream car. On good days, the convertible+manual combination for cruises is just what you need. I might modify the suspension on the mx5, but it’s not a priority as of now. I don’t have the opportunity to push either car past 7/10. Neither of the cars gets used anytime other than weekends too

Outside. Miata is the poor man’s Cayman

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What I love about the Caymans are the size. The modern 911's are just so huge compared to the 993's and 964's.

@@opmike343 Modern 911's and Caymans are basically the same size lol

Boxster 981 S/GTS. Peak modern porsche/sports car..flat 6, mid-engined, right amount of power to enjoy on the road, practical, timeless design and the right size for comfort, luggage and the road.

@@opmike343 991 and 718 basically same size, I think the 718 actually has a longer wheelbase.

Better driving too

Thanks a lot

@@QueTheChaotic My pleasure~TC

Well this is just the 4 cylinder one. You can do an aftermarket short throw shifter. That is perfection.

That was a great spec. The GRC is a lot more practical and extremely fun

Thank you for watching

That’s the one to get!

I appreciate that!

Congrats! I just ease into the power once the clutch is engaged

Will do

Thanks for the tip.

Your 100% correct!

That’s all it is. Just a matter of taste

But objectively the Cayman is just a lot better. You can’t just throw that fact away.

Thanks a lot. That what I felt the 718 was missing. It just felt too good if that makes sense. I would enjoy the older Cayman on the raw and analog feel.

I've done the FT twins, can't fit in Miata unfortunately and always wanted to test a 987 cayman but thought that the gearing would be too long and mid engine isn't as fun as road car compared to FR. Please can you give some advice 👍

Nice!

Why would you sell the spyder????? Then get a miata???

My bad I can't even recall at this point. I need to get to an area with a lot more corners

Some people drive them with the top down in the winter. Just get winter tires

I have what I call an infinite playlist. SO many songs. I agree with you man

I gotta give the sound to the Porsche. Other than that I couldn’t see paying so much for a Cayman when the Miata exists

@@QueTheChaotic Yeah I can tell that you liked the idle and cam sound of the Porsche, but I guess I just liked the tone of the Mazda more.

I’ve driven both several times and the Cayman craps on it if we’re honest. Miata is really good (Saturn Sky, Z4 and Soltices feel just as good as an older Miata too) but there’s levels to the game. The Cayman S out performs the 911 in MANY categories.

You haven’t driven a Cayman, have you?

Miata is awesome, but the Caymen is in a different category. Get one with the 4.0 flat six and that sounds insane. It’s so intoxicating. The best sports car I’ve driven under 100k is the Lotus Emira. That car is perfection. So comfortable too.

Porsche doesn't have that edge of being raw

@@QueTheChaotic cheers Que, i can't fit in a Miata. Do you think the GR86 is more fun than Cayman?

@@patrickbateman7122 the BRZ/86 is a blast to drive. I like them a lot. The engine is prone to oil starvation but a mod can fix that

@@QueTheChaotic cheers mate! We love your vids all the way across the pond in England 👍👊

@@patrickbateman7122 🙌🏾🙏🏾 I appreciate you

Yessir! I have a couple Z06 videos. It’s been a couple years back

True indeed

On a baseball cap

@@QueTheChaotic I will have to try that. I tried a neck mount but it hangs too low.

Camaro, GT350, then Hellcat

Lol! ND3 and have no regrets. I hear if you joining SCCA or some racing club you get them at invoice.

The Cayman is much more spacious even for taller people. I'm 6 ft I can't slide my seat back anymore in the Miata. It's just enough space.

@@QueTheChaotic Thanks I am the same height so that helps.

Type R is a really neat car, but it is not a poor man's Porsche because it's front engine and FWD. The MR2 was a poor man's Porsche.

I hear the GT Porsches have the good shifter. This one was worse than the Miata and CTR

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I’ll see about it!

@QueTheChaotic Cool! They're supposed to have the best steering of all factory cars and under 2000 lbs. 2ZZ revs to 8000 rpm

@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks nice! I’ll see if I can review that next. And the RX7

😆you got yourself a nice ride sir. I feel like a transformer to get in the Miata. I’m at the cusp of the maximum height

@@QueTheChaotic I feel you! But it’s worth it, isn’t it!! That tight, clicky little shifter and 100% old-time British roadster feel with modern technology and reliability. And you hit the nail on the head about speed. I always had a blast in my NB, almost always under 60 mph on the backroads where I live. The Cayman is amazing, but Im breaking almost all speed limits at the top of second gear! Happy driving! PS - Im actually looking for an NC Club. It’s not as good as what you have, but I actually fit in it.

They really have

True.

Not at all. Not even double

@@QueTheChaoticdamn! So factor in repair costs long term and it becomes even harder to justify

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What kind of issues?

Lol!!!

Service writers can’t afford a Porsche is what you mean. Let’s not pretend. If they could afford one or make it work for a family, they would make it happen. I have tons of friends that work at 5 Porsche dealers. None of them can afford a Porsche in their lifestyles. 2 door, 2 seaters are also no practical for most people. What year and model Audis did you have?

@@ryanb8736 hi! No that’s not what I meant…Used caymans, panamera & yes an occasional cayenne was always on used lot there. They r suvs n sedans that can accommodate a fam ya?🥴 U could lease them if u wanted used. In the Bay Area where I’m at now? Omg so many leases so decent credit n enuf downs😂 can get u anything. 13 teslas on my block….. Service mgr in valley drove Subaru exclusively and all others were a Silverado & a Nissan 370z? They called Audis, vws in a tuxedo. Btw these folks were at the top of the pay scale in the Central Valley Ca. so they may not step into a new 911 but they def shied away from anything else euro. Me??? New 2002 all road, used 2010 a6- new 12’ a3 as a company car. Hospital rep…. Wife was a very successful gm of a 3 line store in Bay Area & I was finance mgr for 5 line store inc caddy n Chevy. I could finance a zombie on a new STS n I did🥇😂👍 Ps-loved my Audis like my Fiats & Alfa Romeo -lol!!!!

@@ryanb8736 U mentioned friends in the biz that work at dlrs…when u r an employee (at least in the mid to late 90’s) u could get anything at Cost invoice plus holdback. I had a 95 Vette as a demo for 5 mos followed up by a Eldorado. I leased a 96 manual turquoise Vette coupe for 2 years in Livermore ca. That is one pos car that I do wish I held on to. Horrid build quality n fit n finish tho…..

@@ryanb8736 Go work at any new car dealership with a used lot attached…. Ignorance isn’t a virtue mate🗽

@@ryanb8736 did u apply at a dealership yet🥴??

When/where is this?

I need to get my hands on the older gen Cayman. The Miata is pretty loud with the top up. It took some getting used to

@@QueTheChaotic I think you would like it a lot. We have had a lot of the same cars. M2, Miata, GR Corolla. That generation cayman/boxster has the best steering out of any car I’ve driven outside the lotus Elise. The naturally aspirated engine is nasty in the upper rev range. And one of the best sounding engines on the planet, especially with an upgraded exhaust. I’d let you film mine if you were in Florida

@@QueTheChaoticthe Miata is very loud. NVH levels are quite high. The RF is a little better. The RF with some butyl sheets and closed cell foam installed in strategic places in the RF significantly reduces the NVH where the loudest of the noises remaining is the stock exhaust. I love my RF now.

My 2012.5 991 Carrera s has a oil change once a year , air filter every 2-3yrs, and 3 sets of tires. Never any other issue and it now has 42k miles. Why did you want to know about maintenance costs?

@@991carreras3how much is that oil change… just curious

@tedadamgreen On my 991 S I get it done for a total of $225 for oil filter, 8-9 quarts of oil, and labor. Porsche dealership it would be just over $400.

@@991carreras3 Thanks!

You just motivated me to do some pull ups.

Wondering why you’re watching this then

Thank you. I made a couple cases with Honda. I haven't heard back yet

I don’t know man. It’s kinda a comparison. Lots of people compare and cross shop. The Miata is more fun to me

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Ah. How could I forget that. Thanks

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Clearly, you know nothing about absolutely everything. Low self-esteem must really suck for you to spend 3 times as much for the same kind of fun on the street.