Neenah vs Hammermill - Copic Rainbow Hummingbirds

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Enough people have been telling me they use Hammermill that I figured it's about time to put the paper to the test. I did some tests before the video on other projects, and that halped me choose a hummingbird with multiple colors for blending to use for the video, since that pushes the paper in the test. Blog post with more info and pinnable images: bit.ly/3sl1jfP
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@karenzemko6518 3 года назад

I always appreciate the time you take to compare products. Gives us options of where to spend our money. To me, being a painter for many years, it just doesn't pay to buy cheap supplies. The results will never be as good. TFS

@heyamanda101 3 года назад

Thank you so much for your comparison. I seriously just put the Hammermill in my cart and I am so happy I did one more search for a review. And, you posted it 2 hours ago. Goodness I am so happy I went with my gut to search for one more review. Thank you sooooo much!!

@SandyAllnock1 3 года назад

Perfect timing!

@ginnymaxam2403 3 года назад

Great information Sandy, thank you! I'm a long time Neenah fan. I think in general Hammer Mill is meant for printing, so it works great in the commercial scene and even in the home printers but it's not designed for hand coloring. Where is Nina seems to be more suited to hand coloring and less suited to commercial printing. Just my observation working in a print shop and hand coloring! Love your videos

@SandyAllnock1 3 года назад

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 it’s why I was hesitant for so long to bother with the test! Now I have a ream to get rid of 🤣

@ednam7 3 года назад

The first class I took they said Neenah was best and I've used it ever since. Glad you like it better too.

@marywitk 3 года назад

So glad you addressed apples to not apples re paper and cardstock weights. I was pretty certain I was going crazy with white cardstock I THOUGHT was all the same wt. ... but... apparently was NOT. Because I stacked it all in the same pile it was hard to figure out what was what!

@scottietyme1776 3 года назад

Good fair testing, love that you show all the parts to the test...The prices for Neenah can vary, Amazon has a whole range, I love Ellen but sometimes her prices are higher...So I try to get my paper from a good source and get the rest of my crafting supplies (stamps and dies) from Ellen...support small business, when I can.

@gramletizianancy8397 3 года назад

I notice on Amazon, while the price may be lower, the ream of Neehan Crested solar white 80 lb is not called cardstock, but rather COVERSTOCK . Their card stock is more expensive. I read a article on the difference, not sure if there is a difference when using Copics. Maybe Sandy knows??

@mrsmcphate 2 года назад

Thanks for this comparison! Good to know. I've been using Neenah anyway, so I'll stick with that!

@gloriaebert4209 3 года назад

Appreciate you comparing the two.

@brandymiller3168 3 года назад

I completely agree on using it with COPIC. I have found for stamping solid or layering stamps with Oxides or Archival inks it is decent.

@gramletizianancy8397 3 года назад

Thanks so much for the great review! I’ll be getting 80 lb Neenah and save my Neenah 110 and the Hammermill paper for other things.

@mpbailey18 3 года назад

Interesting comparison! I switched to Neenah a couple of years ago and can't beat Amazon prices... currently $24 for the ream. Love to support our small businesses, but not when their prices are so much higher, (EH - $54) Thank you for doing this helpful video!

@SandyAllnock1 3 года назад

I still pay the higher price; a small biz doesn’t charge us so they can gouge us, they charge what they buy it for plus the markup needed to remain open.

@gramletizianancy8397 3 года назад

If you notice on Amazon it is not labeled card stock, but rather coverstock. There is a difference, I don’t know how it differs when using paper for Copic coloring. If you look at the Neehan solar white Cardstock it is more expensive .

@mpbailey18 3 года назад

@@gramletizianancy8397 Actually, cover stock is the correct name for what we call card stock...according to my professional printing source.

@mpbailey18 3 года назад

@@SandyAllnock1 I'd pay a little more too...just not double. What bothers me even more are the Chinese knockoffs that have set up shop on Amazon & severely undercutting our small craft stores. I'm vocal about this whenever possible. I won't buy anything from China unless that's my only choice. Would rather pay more and have it made in the US.

@gramletizianancy8397 3 года назад

@@mpbailey18 not sure why Amazon calls one cardstock and another coverstock and a big difference in pricing. I did read one article that mentioned there is a difference in the two, coverstock has a shinier and has a protective coating. Like I said, not sure if this affects Copics. Maybe Sandy needs to do a review on that one :-). Thanks for the reply!

@MaryPrasadArt 3 года назад

I bought some of the 100 lb Hammermil (sp?) but haven’t tried it yet. I usually go by gsm since it is a consistent measure of weight. Thanks for the review!

@lindaedwards3377 3 года назад

Both of the ones Sandy mentioned are 216 gsm according to the mfg's websites. I have both; I use the 80# Hammermill when I'm stamping a multi-step image and also use it for foiling.

@gramletizianancy8397 3 года назад

I see a couple comments on difference in pricing of Neehan Solar white cardstock. If you happen to look on Amazon it is called coverstock and not card stock. The “ cardstock “ they do sell is more expensive. Not sure the differences when using Copics, but there is a difference in the paper. Just FYI.

@huxdroid 3 месяца назад

Do you have an updated link to the Neenah paper? The one in the description doesn’t work

@SandyAllnock1 3 месяца назад

Yup! Try amzn.to/3q8RbqP

@adelleemery6424 3 года назад

I purchased the Hammermill 100# months ago and tried it with several Copic cards. It was fine, but I preferred Copic coloring on the Neenah even though I prefer the brightness/whiteness of the Hammermill. Neenah is 97 and Hammermill has a score of 100. Since I had the ream left I started using it for ink blending backgrounds. Dye ink blending can be particularly fussy on Neenah (easy for me to blob a mistake on the cardstock) and it is easier on this coated Hammermill, so I use it for that now. Until I use it up, which will probably be 8 years from now :) P.S. the ream of Neenah 110# is $25 cheaper on Amazon than the craft stores.

@SandyAllnock1 3 года назад

If you looked at the video, you’ll see that companies score “whiteness” themselves-hammermill is greyer. I’ll try it gor ink blending, thanks! The Neenah on Amazon that’s so cheap is the office paper. Doesn’t color the same as the good stuff. I won’t buy anything on Amazon I can get from a craft store in any case. Amazon has killed too many businesses. 😔

@adelleemery6424 3 года назад

@@SandyAllnock1 Sadly, it has killed businesses just like the Walmarts have though I've never stepped foot in a Walmart. For the Neenah, so long as it's the Classic Crest line in Solar white, it's the same line of paper. I've bought it from Amazon, SSS, papermill store and even Neenah store (testing other lines too). Same thing. I won't buy my Copics/reinkers, colored pencils, at full MSRP either. We have to pick and choose where we apply our money. Many are fortunate to get a lot their stamps/dies free. Others aren't. Would much rather spend $30 on the same paper, so I can get more stamps/dies. It all washes out for me personally as anything I save I usually apply to something else. :)

@jillrice2577 3 года назад

Interesting!

@sherrywoods4630 3 года назад

I’ve stuck with the Neenah even though it’s significantly more expensive. I figured I’ve spent a lot of $$$ on the markers, stamps, etc - so it’s not worth it to me to cheap out on the paper. I put a lot of effort into the coloring, so I want it to be the best it can be. I can go cheap on card bases and other supplies instead.

@dianesutton9282 3 года назад

Have you tried express it cardstock?

@SandyAllnock1 3 года назад

I did a review on that years ago, was not a fan.

@dianesutton9282 3 года назад

@@SandyAllnock1 that’s all I’ve tried so far and I’m a beginner in copic colouring It gives me a good result but I’ll try Neenah and see the difference Love all your videos 😍

@annajavier5712 3 года назад

If you Gil print the hammermill works good

@SandyAllnock1 3 года назад

Good to know!

@sweetsarah9702 3 года назад

Have you done a comparison with Accent Opaque Digital paper? I've seen a few comparisons using that and they are all favorable. It certainly is much more affordable!

@SandyAllnock1 3 года назад

I haven’t done a video comparison but it doesn’t perform even close to Neenah.

@Bunny_the_Rabbit 3 года назад

Right now on Amazon you can purchase Neenah Classic Crest 8 1/2 x 11 80# smooth finish Solar white (500 sheets) for only $24.00 plus free shipping. Now, I purchase Neenah and I know this is a mistake in price and that it should be double the price so for those that have never used Neenah you may want to jump on this offer. Quick as a bunny, y'all. Sandy, if Amazon is an affiliate link you may want to add it to this post so people can click on the link.

@SandyAllnock1 3 года назад

That’s the office paper. That’s not the good stuff and it doesn’t work nearly as well.

@bambimail3210 3 года назад

Hello, I live in Switzerland and it's very difficult and expensive to get to Neenah, but I love it. I have the feeling that the 80IB is a lot softer than the 110ib, was I cheated or is the thinner one a lot softer? You are a fantasitic Artist. Kisses

@SandyAllnock1 3 года назад

Do you mean 80 vs 110 Neenah? I prefer the 80. Yes the 110 is stiffer, but Copic blends within the fibers of the paper; the 110 is pressed in a way that doesn’t allow the color to soak in and it floats on top. Blech.

@bambimail3210 3 года назад

@@SandyAllnock1 Thank you so so much. Now i know it. I am happy you answer me! Kisses from sunny Zürich to you

@dawsonteresa7431 3 года назад

Hi I have heard that the Hammermill paper works well with hot foiling so ordered some but have not yet received so I cannot speak personally to wether it does but if people have it and hot foil may be worth a try? Thanks for the comparison with copics great info and example!

@SandyAllnock1 3 года назад

I don’t own any foiling supplies, so I don’t think it’s worth buying all that I just to use a ream of paper LOL

@Hibiscus575 3 года назад

Hi Sandy, I was wondering what you think would be the best pencil sharpener for prismacolor premier colored pencils ?

@MamawCindy 3 года назад

Thanks for making this video. I have been looking for a good cardstock for my markers. I have been using cheap cardstock from Walmart. Will be looking into getting some Neenah. Have a great day.

@SandyAllnock1 3 года назад

You’ll be happy with his white it’ll suddenly be. The GP110 looks white til you see it vs Neenah 🥰

@MamawCindy 3 года назад

@@SandyAllnock1 I think they have a Neenah at Walmart. That's probably not the same thing though.

@SandyAllnock1 3 года назад

From what I’ve seen it’s a Georgia Pacific. It can be used but it’s very grey.

@lindaedwards3377 3 года назад

That's exactly what I used until I knew better. The GP 110# at Walmart is index weight. Not good for Copics or card making.