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the hope that christianity never dies… nergal of extreme metal band behemoth talks the religion of doubt
negal of extreme metal band behemoth talks about his hope that christianity never dies…
this is the second video… for part one, go here: creativeclasstrumpsrulingclass...
for the full audio and photos, go here: shanebugbee.com/?p=2304
negral is a fascinating artist/musician… my love of his art has grown over the years, it seems to coincide with the music videos his band, behemoth put out. don’t get me wrong, I very much enjoy the music but, the videos push their expression over the top.
in this video we talk philosophically regarding religion, the catholic church, how christianity is negral’s biggest inspiration, his attraction to satan, being attracted to the outcast archetype, the religion of doubt and a bit more about religious theory.
this interview came about in the hardest of ways, something I rarely do in my old age and that’s chase an interview… we originally had scheduled to talk in san francisco, but for whatever reason, it was called off… so, after the tour manager promised to make the interview happen if I showed up in seattle, no mater what.
I made the trip… I made the trip because the live show was so fucking amazing… best metal show I’ve seen in years.
though, I must add… I wasn’t as prepared or as rested as I was in SF, so the interview, I feel, could have been better.
before I forget, remember, this is free to you, NOT FREE TO ME… please consider throwing something into our patreon fund, it’s what will keep this stuff flowing: / creativeclass

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@theultimategamer213
@theultimategamer213 8 лет назад
it's actually really satisfying to see the steam coming from his coffee cup for some reason
@MishterSmiley
@MishterSmiley 8 лет назад
I didn't notice the steam until I read your comment, but yeah. For some reason its relaxing :P
@MemoryDealer
@MemoryDealer 7 лет назад
And the sound of the rain drops. So satisfying.
@wanderergrim
@wanderergrim 6 лет назад
I like his view on Christianity in a way that he's saying that Satan/Lucifer is not real but a character
@b0gdan491
@b0gdan491 7 лет назад
The thing is that nergal is like tom araya, he uses Christianity and satanism as a source of inspiration.
@Sparson
@Sparson 6 лет назад
B0gdaN there's a difference.....tom araya is catholic
@bmeijer7776
@bmeijer7776 6 лет назад
And Kerry writes the lyrics not Tom....
@chestbuster1987
@chestbuster1987 9 лет назад
Without Christianity, Behemoth would run out of ideas for songs fast. Just like without bands like Behemoth, conservative Christians would have nothing to get upset about
@FernandoDornelles4321
@FernandoDornelles4321 5 лет назад
actually real christians are very little concerned with a 40 year old man singing about satan, there are more serious problems in this wicked world to worry about, i love this guy, and i got to say, he seems kind of interesting, but his opinion on christianity is probably very non facts based.
@dk1070
@dk1070 5 лет назад
Fernando Dornelles it probably couldn't have been said better. 👌
@LEONSKENNEDY91
@LEONSKENNEDY91 3 года назад
@@ioannisgournaris5997 Most people take this too simply where Christ = good ; Lucifer = bad and do not see any nuances. Don't get me wrong, I really do think that Christ's message about being good and being persistent in being good, even if it hurts you sometimes, is definetly a good thing. But writing off what Nergal is saying here is intentionally closing your eyes to hear something different, and I can assure you, most Christians would.
@mikewhipkey6863
@mikewhipkey6863 2 года назад
I'm a "conservative Christian" and I don't give a rats ass what people do.. as long as there is no innocent person victimized or whatever do whatever you want
@aandrei99
@aandrei99 4 года назад
He is a very clever person and always interesting to listen to, the only problem is that I get distracted by how many times he says "you know"
@ilsagitarium3578
@ilsagitarium3578 7 лет назад
Nergal , in my opinion , behemoth as a band play really good metal now your believes , points and shit mean nothing to me but still love Behemoth and also you because you sing really good :)
@Chuloloc
@Chuloloc 8 лет назад
Awesome. Hail Nergal. Long Live Behemoth.
@phoenixsub7072
@phoenixsub7072 3 года назад
Music lets your mind wander freely, without goin out to the world proclaiming an absolute truth, its kinda like theater, a mindgame, but in a free space. Where you can have som leveling of spirit so that you dont boil over.
@ourmoon15
@ourmoon15 8 лет назад
im not quite sure how i feel about believing in something the way most do, but the words and ideas some people have are very interesting.
@stayawhileandlisten.3249
@stayawhileandlisten.3249 9 лет назад
God will open the doors of heaven for this man, for he is proving that humans are more than mindless sheep; in other words, he is displaying that humans are indeed a great creation. Simply beautiful, a conscious man with the will to evolve, to use his brain. Basically what all great men in history strive for.
@edipatakarabey4818
@edipatakarabey4818 9 лет назад
***** Ever heard of figurative language?
@Lichugunti
@Lichugunti 9 лет назад
***** Satan and god come from the same book. Is it only a figure that u idolize or do you guys believe in both and just want to be on the satanic side.
@Lichugunti
@Lichugunti 9 лет назад
Thanks for the reply bro. Still hard to understand the benefits of the concept though. It sounds like religious anarchy.
@DVM8099
@DVM8099 9 лет назад
***** you're wrong brother, there are two different forms of Satanism, Theistic and laveyan. laveyan dont worship Satan as a god, on the other hand, Theistic Satanists do.
@shawnc318
@shawnc318 9 лет назад
okajfaejfp way over my head...
@dangolden4038
@dangolden4038 3 года назад
I highly respect him
@djc741
@djc741 8 лет назад
What is the name of the author he mentions at 6:05? I cannot understand Nergal here.
@jamesstuart1634
@jamesstuart1634 5 лет назад
Louis Stefan?
@NickolausPacione
@NickolausPacione 6 лет назад
Nergal is a backslidden Catholic. His dark concepts come from being a critic of religion as I am a critic of Latter Day Saints as when I would had formed with Nikk Dibs and Apathademon I would had ripped up The Book of Mormon. I am a Pentacostal but I don't take the Bible literally I acknowledge the science of evolution as my background is in Philosophy and I am intrigued by ancient mythology (Ancient Greece and Ancient Rome mythology found their way in my literary inputs.) Nergal might had drawn from Paradise Lost and Dante's Inferno. I am critical of the King James Only Movement.
@Crafter610
@Crafter610 4 года назад
Let God be true and every man a liar
@chrisando3084
@chrisando3084 8 лет назад
jesus loves you nergal
@ZeroFloat.
@ZeroFloat. 8 лет назад
+Chris Ando Jesus does not love wicked ones Pslm 7:11, wrath of God is up on him Ro1:18 and He is angry at him and laugh when his calamity comes Prov 1:26-29 This Nergal dude knows exactly what Christ did on Golgotha but he chooses to spit on it. There is no love and forgiveness but only fear and judgement He10:26-29 Jesus only loves people through His cross and blood atonement. If you do not receive it, you are damned forever, and this dude knows it.
@renatoribeiro3428
@renatoribeiro3428 8 лет назад
+Gontainer Don't mix things up, Jesus is not YWHW.
@chrisando3084
@chrisando3084 8 лет назад
+Gontainer wow r u the mastet of bible?
@ZeroFloat.
@ZeroFloat. 8 лет назад
Renato Rr Yes, if you are Russian you may call His name Иисус, or if you are Spanish you may call His name Jesús. If Indonesian then Isa. Don't make any difference. But if you want to be a wannabe Jew, please read the following: Revelation 2:9 I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan. Revelation 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
@chrisando3084
@chrisando3084 8 лет назад
Gontainer fyi, im indonesian and i call Him Yesus or Jesus. 'Isa' is for muslim
@bodalla9273
@bodalla9273 8 лет назад
Love to you nergal I no you have doubts but hold on to the holy ghost RA AMEN ESCAOE THE TRAP
@djc741
@djc741 8 лет назад
And does anyone know the name of the book too?
@kiddankula5480
@kiddankula5480 8 лет назад
confessions of a heretic
@djc741
@djc741 8 лет назад
+nameless Ghoul Oh that is Nergal's book. I was referring to the book he mentions around 6:05
@kiddankula5480
@kiddankula5480 8 лет назад
Oh ok
@sashabrazhnik951
@sashabrazhnik951 9 лет назад
Where can I get this hoodie?
@Officialsearch21
@Officialsearch21 9 лет назад
Eugene Axe www.behemoth-store.com/Sweatshirts
@urgaalnoir5268
@urgaalnoir5268 5 лет назад
14,8, 2014 , intersting
@jonnytheal8693
@jonnytheal8693 3 года назад
My grandmother was a very religious lady and she said there is no god without lucifer or the devil, you cant have one without the other. Just like light and dark one doesn't mean anything without the other
@tomoyukiyamahashita9585
@tomoyukiyamahashita9585 3 года назад
God is always there since the very beginning before the earth creation ...who is she to say that...your grandmother is stupid like she is try to questioning His Godliness....
@Brandonkissedmydog
@Brandonkissedmydog 2 года назад
Did she like behemoth ?
@jordanwaggoner87
@jordanwaggoner87 4 года назад
In another video he says he worships Odin. He kind of contradicts himself in this video. I love there music. Big fan. However Satanism thing is used for there theatrics.
@Guenonymous
@Guenonymous 4 года назад
What’s next? Can’t say that answer...
@heavymetalmusicofdestructi3430
@heavymetalmusicofdestructi3430 4 года назад
young nergal was heavier
@mattce988
@mattce988 9 лет назад
agnosticism is not "the religion of doubt" it is the belief in endless truly incomprehensible possibilities.
@resevil2396
@resevil2396 8 лет назад
+mattce988 personally as one who calls himself agnostic, I see it more as not assuming one way or the other. It means that I have no strong beliefs one way or the other, and I fell that antagonistic as a description is fairly vague in that some agnostics are likely more atheist leaning than others. I lean more on the atheism side, but I also feel that no one can really know whether or not any supernatural entity exist, and that to an extent it is a bit arrogant to claim that one "knows" what is real. Hence why I call myself an agnostic rather than an atheist.
@mattce988
@mattce988 8 лет назад
resevil2396 but you agree that agnosticism is in no way a "religion of doubt" right?
@shaunkelly9102
@shaunkelly9102 4 года назад
@@resevil2396 Agnostic is a pointless term. It means, literally, "without knowledge", so we are all agnostic. Atheism is simply the lack of belief in a god, not a belief. I call myself an atheist as I don't believe in any god, though I am still open to the possibility of a god since there is no proof for either side.
@dja1924
@dja1924 8 лет назад
Why do you take it up a notch and go after Judaism and Islam.
@philipsteele1277
@philipsteele1277 5 лет назад
Because - they don't matter. They are false religion. Part of Satans lies. Only Jesus(God) matters. No time wasted on that which has already damned ones soul.
@Smashax
@Smashax 9 лет назад
I dig the Blasphemy shirt!
@philipsteele1277
@philipsteele1277 4 года назад
All sinners without repentance - do! You know! The ones who are hell bound and don't give a shit.
@coldvoid7579
@coldvoid7579 9 лет назад
If Christianity was gone, I would have a lot less to be angry about in life. Would I still feel the need to make metal then?
@coldvoid7579
@coldvoid7579 9 лет назад
I suppose your going to tell me reptilian shape shifters rule the world too eh?
@tomoyukiyamahashita9585
@tomoyukiyamahashita9585 3 года назад
U think it will over???wait till Islam came...lol..it will be more brutal for you guys....I heard they like to use aks and sword when their prophet and God is being mocked...lol
@josesolis3962
@josesolis3962 7 лет назад
God bless you
@KronkJuce
@KronkJuce 9 лет назад
But as someone who has seen the ups and downs of Christians, as I'm sure Satanists as well, it appears that Christianity does indeed stand for hope and that God communicates through us. I hope he sees that someday
@jamdwhi
@jamdwhi 9 лет назад
However, your "God" has taken a position of responsibility. And he fails daily. A million times over. On a daily FUCKING BASIS.
@jamdwhi
@jamdwhi 9 лет назад
The concept of "Satan" assumes no responsibility. It's just the idea of a constant duality. Chaos and order. Hand in hand. One cannot exist without the other. It is neither just nor injust.
@krissinistar6959
@krissinistar6959 9 лет назад
jamdwhi lol
@KronkJuce
@KronkJuce 9 лет назад
i guess i fail to see how you could possibly be able to identify God's failures. Name one instance where God was responsible for utter failure..
@jamdwhi
@jamdwhi 9 лет назад
superemomax So you are a theistic Satanist. That's all you just said. Watain is probably a better fit for you.
@philipsteele1277
@philipsteele1277 5 лет назад
Hating God(Jesus) so much - only proves he is the real - one true God.
@Crafter610
@Crafter610 4 года назад
Philip Steele Amen. Stopped listening when he’s said Satan was the most Christian in the Bible
@philipsteele1277
@philipsteele1277 4 года назад
@Oasis - yes. That's good. Smartass!
@Crafter610
@Crafter610 4 года назад
Oasis I think him saying God’s adversary is the most obedient proves some type of misspeak
@SASQUATCHBROTHERS
@SASQUATCHBROTHERS 8 лет назад
jesus loves me yes i know, why because satan owns my soul....jesus is obsessed with me
@SASQUATCHBROTHERS
@SASQUATCHBROTHERS 8 лет назад
we told the story of baby jesus and his transgender transformation into being the king of the ass rape nation
@philipsteele1277
@philipsteele1277 4 года назад
Yea. You are Fucked. See you suffering in hell - while Iam in heaven - with God (Jesus)
@philipsteele1277
@philipsteele1277 4 года назад
You are such a loser - Shitbrain - Dumbass! Non - knowing. God hating, Satan loving, proud ass Shitbrain. Too fucking bad.
@sweynskarilsen9105
@sweynskarilsen9105 7 лет назад
I am still waiting for metal bands to rip both Satan and God. If there is a band that makes fun of both equally I need to hear them.
@egosum8617
@egosum8617 5 лет назад
parkway drive wishing wells
@cgccgc7185
@cgccgc7185 4 года назад
JESUS love u put your trust in him in this last days he save us from sin 😀😇
@Crafter610
@Crafter610 4 года назад
Satan is not Christian like by doubt, doubt is not a Christ-like characteristic. If there are any looking for Christ, open the Bible and read what the Lord says. His blasphemy shirt is well indication he doesn’t have your best interests at heart.
@mr.stalker5388
@mr.stalker5388 6 лет назад
so...is he religious or an atheist?
@TheJohnZani
@TheJohnZani 8 лет назад
is he actually a satanist or is it just a stage act?
@frankunodostres473
@frankunodostres473 8 лет назад
+Black Lotus lol you know him personally?
@AndJustlceForAII
@AndJustlceForAII 8 лет назад
+Mistweaver At the end of the video he actually said that he is agnostic.
@toasterrobot8566
@toasterrobot8566 7 лет назад
Id say he is, but he is pretty mysterious......so you cant tell.
@filipmilinkovic3069
@filipmilinkovic3069 7 лет назад
They are all in religion called "Thelema", Alister Crowleys religion.
@shaunmanning7627
@shaunmanning7627 6 лет назад
WRONG RELIGION. Repent or suffer, idiot!
@Olhor10
@Olhor10 8 лет назад
Behemoth at the beginnig had something to say. They were nationalists they were into Slavonic/Polish religion and culture. Now there is nothing worthy no message in their lyrics.
@philipsteele1277
@philipsteele1277 5 лет назад
Jesus hates none and loves all. He only hates the evil that men do. But - you make the choice - where you wind up - for all eternity. Heaven or Hell. That's it. That's all there is. Choose wisely!
@karinaortiz1732
@karinaortiz1732 7 лет назад
Were all being controlled period lol
@tanjilhossaintamal8010
@tanjilhossaintamal8010 9 лет назад
u dn't knw abt the Islam or muslims.....just see urslf that everybody belv God....some of not fllw d path of god....we evn nt tstd hw is hvn or hll.....jst make dffrnce btwn Hinduism, Christianity and others religion blvrs....
@CuteTransGirlxD
@CuteTransGirlxD 9 лет назад
wait so was he in Christianity before then a Satanist and does he believe Satan as a god or does he view that their is no god like believe in yourself, I do know their are more then one Satanist views.
@morgoth2425
@morgoth2425 9 лет назад
You're missing the point if you're even asking those questions. He doesn't pretend to know if there is a god or not, or even a satan, it's all about catching the essence of those mythological characters and studying the reason why the god(s) hate them (prometheus, satan, set, loki, etc.). If you watch the interview he says his religion, if he has one at all, is doubt. Mere questioning of the status quo, what is thought to be true... also he tries to live his life as responsibly as possible, yet how he sees fit, not how anyone else sees it, which is a very powerful anti-religious, pro-philosophical message
@TheJoaovicente
@TheJoaovicente 6 лет назад
Actually, I believe him to be an atheist that uses Satan as a metaphor
@ShaneBugbee
@ShaneBugbee 9 лет назад
all religion is false. all.
@btownshreds1
@btownshreds1 9 лет назад
Oh. So you're the one who has all the answers. I feel you I feel you....
@gregturner952
@gregturner952 9 лет назад
science has failed
@krisross8818
@krisross8818 9 лет назад
Greg Turner How so? All our modern comforts and understanding is a result of science.
@gregturner952
@gregturner952 9 лет назад
Nothing scientifically has proven how the earth was created and what was here before it, and evolution is still just a theory
@Bliced
@Bliced 9 лет назад
Greg Turner Science doesn't act as a religion so stop acting like its a religion. Science is a tool and no it hasn't failed and I suggest you look into evolution because its well researched and well supported and accepted by anyone who doesn't have a religious agenda.
@feuersturmomega5000
@feuersturmomega5000 7 лет назад
Jesus Christ has no religion; He has followers. It is a personal relationship with God in *holy righteousnes* and *obedience* unto Him. In *John ******14:15* Jesus said : *If ye love me, keep my commandments.* We read in *John ******4:24* - *"God is a Spirit: and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth."* We also read in *Romans ******8:14* - *"For those who are led by the Spirit of God are the children of God."* Church-ianity is a fraud and a scam. *Repent of sin and obey Jesus Christ only.* Peace out.
@HappyWolverine
@HappyWolverine 6 лет назад
exactly Jesus actually went up against religion
@adity.atiwari
@adity.atiwari 6 лет назад
I'm no follower, but this is very well said, cheers
@LeeHoMusic
@LeeHoMusic 5 лет назад
So true
@scottharvey3848
@scottharvey3848 7 лет назад
i dont think nergal really believe's his own hype
@davidjenson1570
@davidjenson1570 7 лет назад
Still waiting to see if he's gonna man up and rip a Quran up. lol
@emp731
@emp731 7 лет назад
Hell Yeah....1st opening song...."Sodomise Mohomamad".....2nd "Allah is no more"......You see Islam is Satanic....They love sacrificing themselves to a false god....They torture people and kill people in their millions......Allah =Satan
@analacrobats158
@analacrobats158 7 лет назад
David Jenson don't think so, this guy is just all talk have you ever seen nergal's picture with his muslim fans? he can't fight someone that will fight him back just like the majority in the metal scene all about being edgy and cool satanist
@MODElAIRPLANE100
@MODElAIRPLANE100 6 лет назад
makka y just als bad as christianity
@HappyWolverine
@HappyWolverine 6 лет назад
they don't have the nuts to pick a fight with muslims who WILL come for them lol easier to pick on Christianity these days
@greenmonkey_gacha2660
@greenmonkey_gacha2660 6 лет назад
He knows Christians laugh at him and press on. He's too cowardly to go for islam. That's what's so lame about these "satanic" bands, the anti-Christian thing is worn out, and yhey all sound the same, croaking and making noise.
@Rovization
@Rovization 8 лет назад
I pay no atention to the gods, simple as that. If i believe in myself only, THAT means i'm a satanist? Ridiculous, i am "humanist" or something... I am no fucking follower, but self worshiper. Perhaps, being called Satanist in this modern and dying world is funny as hell.
@misterjoey3384
@misterjoey3384 7 лет назад
Well the satanic bible DOES stress self gratification so there's a crossover. Does not necessarily mean you're a Satanist. It just happens to be one of their key principles.
@irayoverirayover6382
@irayoverirayover6382 9 лет назад
This guy will end up becoming a christian... Not a catholic, a new born christian.
@shawnc318
@shawnc318 9 лет назад
Irayover Irayover why you say that?
@matthewwtfhall5921
@matthewwtfhall5921 8 лет назад
Maybe one day
@Seu0chico
@Seu0chico 6 лет назад
lol! I thought the same. I believe in this too
@shaunmanning7627
@shaunmanning7627 6 лет назад
Jesus won't save this dumb heathen piece of shit.
@hailbaphomet
@hailbaphomet 6 лет назад
Shaun Manning your a piece of shit for suggesting that. And now everyone knows your not a Christian.
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