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NEUTRAL CURRENTS IN 3 PHASE SYSTEMS - WHERE DO THEY GO TO - WHY ARE THEY DIFFERENT TO SINGLE PHASE? 

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At LearnElectrics we have often been asked about neutral currents in three phase systems and how they appear to differ from single phase systems.
Examples of questions have included …
In a balanced 3 phase system, why are there no neutral currents
If we have a neutral current in a single phase installation, then where has it gone in a three phase system
If there is no neutral current then how do things work?
And we will also introduce Kirchoff’s Law to show what is happening and how we can use this to show how balanced a system might be, what will happen if we add a piece of equipment onto the system.
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This is video No.174 on our RU-vid channel where we have videos on a wide range of electrical topics.

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@user-qb3sy7zh5x
@user-qb3sy7zh5x 5 месяцев назад
Careful! The neutral current on a balanced 3 phase system is zero ONLY for linear loads, such as incandescent light bulbs. For non-linear loads, it can be 1.732 x the phase current. The NEC specifies either separate neutrals or a common neutral with 1.7 times the ampacity of each phase. I have seen neutrals on balanced fluorescent light systems burn. Doug Stell, MS(EE)
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 5 месяцев назад
Thanks for your input, thanks for watching. Dave.
@danielteyehuago1633
@danielteyehuago1633 Год назад
Wow! This is very informative, thanks for sharing it with us Dave. It worth it and the best tutorial on the topic for me.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
Lots more to come Daniel, thanks for the support. Dave.
@STohme
@STohme Месяц назад
Excellent presentation of the topic for non expert in this area. Many thanks.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 7 дней назад
Glad it was helpful and thank you for watching. Dave.
@paulellam6926
@paulellam6926 3 месяца назад
Crikey, best explanation yet on this topic, will watch a couple of times then attempt to write it down in my own words, which is how I then manage to soak it into the memory bank and be able to recall it at with understanding from then on. Brilliant narration and clear graphic representation, many thanks for providing this content.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 3 месяца назад
Glad it was helpful and thanks for watching. Dave.
@nodnarb4162
@nodnarb4162 8 месяцев назад
I love this kind gentleman, and thank you for sharing this brilliant information. Thank you.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 8 месяцев назад
Glad you enjoyed it and lots more to come. Dave.
@anthonyfindlay466
@anthonyfindlay466 Год назад
Thanks again Dave I appreciate the knowledge shared 🙏blessings.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
Thanks Anthony, appreciated. Dave.
@khalidrash5814
@khalidrash5814 Год назад
Hello I am a follower of your lessons and a big fan of them. I hope that you will show videos explaining the method of calculating the power factor, as well as the correct way to calculate the main breaker, and whether it should be larger than the service provider’s breaker, equal to it, or less in size than it. sincerely Khalid
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
Thank Khalid.
@TcTDezaster
@TcTDezaster 7 месяцев назад
Beatifully explained
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 7 месяцев назад
Thank you, appreciated.
@htheh7728
@htheh7728 3 месяца назад
Thank you so much!.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 3 месяца назад
You're welcome and thank you for your support.
@jmileshc
@jmileshc 9 месяцев назад
Fantastic, thank you. Very much look forward to the balancing tutorial, coupled with PF issues & correction? possibly three tutorials there ;-)
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 9 месяцев назад
Great suggestion, you intend keeping me busy. Thanks for your support, appreciated.
@davidpatterson1574
@davidpatterson1574 Год назад
Thanks Dave--interesting video
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
Glad you enjoyed it David. Thanks for the support, Dave.
@hichamnabilnabil
@hichamnabilnabil 10 месяцев назад
for the first time in my life i understand what happen realy and what neutral means ...thanks a lot
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 10 месяцев назад
That's good to know, the videos have done their job. It;s great when the light bulb comes on, isn't it. Every day is a school day, none of us stop learning. Good luck. Dave.
@santhoshr53
@santhoshr53 Год назад
Superb sir good explanation 🙏🙏🙏
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
Thank you Santosh, thanks for watching.
@enroute3
@enroute3 4 месяца назад
I have achieved what I want. Thank you🙏
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 4 месяца назад
That's good. Keep learning and thanks for watching.
@ovieoyegwa6153
@ovieoyegwa6153 5 месяцев назад
thank you
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 5 месяцев назад
You're welcome, thanks for watching.
@brianhewitt8618
@brianhewitt8618 Год назад
Spot on 👍
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
Thank you Brian, great support for the channel. Dave.
@a-k-jun-1
@a-k-jun-1 2 месяца назад
Great explanation
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 5 дней назад
Thanks for watching. Dave.
@damss2724
@damss2724 Год назад
How about if you have 2 power source like AC & solar power, Is it okay to have different grounding system for solar inverters that is neutral grounded to metal case/housing then TNS output? Of course has an input of AC TNS also...
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
There is specific equipment available for this, installed to ensure that the point at which the incoming AC and the derived solar meet are compatible with each other and electrically safe. Dave.
@30mAkills
@30mAkills Год назад
Hi how are you. Useful topic.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
I;m good and thanks for watching. Dave.
@m.fauzanfurzani2849
@m.fauzanfurzani2849 Год назад
Thanks Dave for sharing this with us. But, I've still some doubt about, what can neutral do to the supply if any currents flow along it (neutral) ?
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
Unless a 3 phase system is perfectly balanced then we will have neutral currents. They just go back to the transformer. Most 3 phase boards are not balanced which is why we should always try to make the neutral conductor the same size as the phase conductors.
@hunternixon3770
@hunternixon3770 5 месяцев назад
So question. When you go to motor say in an industrial setting. That one motor would be a balanced load since the 3 legs are just connected to one device. Im a first year apprentice trying to understand thanks, hunter
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 5 месяцев назад
One motor on its own should be a balanced load, yes. thanks for watching.
@eugenepohjola258
@eugenepohjola258 6 месяцев назад
Howdy. Great. Usually the neutral current is no larger than a phase current. The neutral cross section may be the same as a phase cross section. And thicker than 16 mm2 copper the neutral may be half the phase, yet at least 16 mm2. It should be noted though, that early age frequency converters generated so much harmonic reactive current in the neutral that it needed be at least 25 mm2. Best check the specs before commissioning. And there is a situation when the neutral will carry more current than any phase. This will theoretically happen if there is a heavily inductive load on one phase and a heavily capacitive on another phase. Best be aware of this possibility. Capacitive loads are rare though. The Code does not recognize this case. What could produce capacitive loads ? Over-magnetized synchronous motors will generate capacitive loading. Some "bulb-head" may think connecting a capacitor bank to a receptacle removes spikes and harmonics from the mains and delivers clean sine wave to one's HiFi system. It does. Yes. But best be aware of the possibility of strong neutral currents. Regards.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for the input, appreciated. Thank you for watching. Dave.
@mohammedmo3ad457
@mohammedmo3ad457 Год назад
Thinks so much for this explaine you are professor i wish if you can give me some books for electrical installation where i can download him thinks
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
Thank you Mohammed, great feedback. keep watching, keep learning, lots more to come. Dave.
@oDubnobasswithmyhead
@oDubnobasswithmyhead Год назад
Need to do some work on this.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
Learning is good, thanks for watching. Dave.
@alexcurry23
@alexcurry23 Месяц назад
In the video you say something like not all 3 phase systems require a neutral. Can you make a video about why and when a neutral isn't needed?
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 7 дней назад
A 3 ph electric motor, where the supply goes ONLY to the motor windings does not require a neutral as all phases are balanced. If the wiring to the motor also feeds something else, a control panel for instance, then a neutral is needed. Hope this helps. Dave.
@timpullen4941
@timpullen4941 11 месяцев назад
Great explanation. It's a mystery however that so many people in England use SAT and STOOD indirectly. They are SAT is not correct English. SAT is past tense. They are SITTING is the correct English.
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching.
@meandyna1161
@meandyna1161 Год назад
What happened when we lose neutral conductor in unbalanced 3 phase system?
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
What an excellent idea for another video. Lots of things can happen and its on the list now, Dave.
@30mAkills
@30mAkills Год назад
So out of 3 fellows any 1 fellow alternatively acts as drain pipe at any one point of time! My little brain says so! FYI: After some tweaks I converted my single phase 240V variac into 2 phase 415V!
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
Thanks for watching, appreciated.
@danielteyehuago1633
@danielteyehuago1633 Год назад
i am here again
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
Good, I'm glad you're around. Thanks for watching and for the great comments. Dave.
@VikramSingh-gp9hj
@VikramSingh-gp9hj Год назад
नमस्कार सर आपका चैनल इलेक्ट्रिक हेल्प के नेम से हैं सर मुझे आपकी हेल्प चाहीये अगर आप हेल्प कर दोगे तो सर जो थ्री फेज जनरेटR हैं 50 केवीए मे उसकी पर फेज की रेटिंग 70 एम्पायर हैं वो हमारे पास हैं।। ओर हम लाइट डेकोरेशन विवाह शादी के अंदर काम चालू किया है न्यू न्यू तो जैसे हम एक फेज पर 45 एम्पायर लोड डाल दिया ओर एक फेज पर 35 एम्पायर लोड डाल दिया ओर एक फेज पर 15 एम्पायर लोड डाल दिया तो कोई दिकत आएगी क्या सर कुछ लोग बोलते है partek फेज का लोड बराबर रखना होगा नही तो अल्टीनेटर जल जाएगा ये क्या सिस्टम है सर
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
Thank you for watching.
@maxgiantbanana7344
@maxgiantbanana7344 3 месяца назад
This Chanel is Killing The text book … the table explains everything about 3 phases and neutral…
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 3 месяца назад
Thank you for the great feedback. We try our best. Thanks for watching. Dave.
@inneswood7711
@inneswood7711 Год назад
Your channels is good but it.would be good if we got more.practicle examples. Explaining what is 3 phase in practical terms
@learnelectrics4402
@learnelectrics4402 Год назад
Comments noted. I've put this on the list. Thanks for watching, appreciated. Dave.
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