Neutral Undead Models Comparison (Reforged vs Classic) | Warcraft 3 Reforged Beta 

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@Raven *appreciate

@@GabelHUN will be more fun to create custom maps with these units, and they said that the world editor will be even more easy to use with more resources

i was just thinking that. kudos to them, i'll be buying this looks like.

@@Pink_Andromeda pretty cool, can't wait for the new custom campings

😂😂😂😂 man u sad

There already have been maps like that for a long time. People have been able to add latest wow models in wc3 for a while. Some that you must see are: Iceborn v1.9 Infinity v1.24b World of Ancients Desert Winds v0.19 Seth's Reign v3.4 Forsaken Island Diablo III Halls of Agony v.1.04b

@@FBFTheRagingWarrior Yeah, but importing WoW models that are made for a third-person MMO game is not the same as specially crafted HD models made for Warcraft 3 (along with the engine updates to support them). It isn't the same due to the nature of how rendering engines work. Just like you couldn't just blow these high poly WC3 models up in scale and stick them in WoW and expect them to be the same quality.

@@FBFTheRagingWarrior Not to mention they are providing the tools they used to create these WC3 models along with the editor this time, *plus* tutorials on how to achieve the same level of detail. Those added utilities and documentation will make modders a whole lot more consummate in terms of project quality..

@@FBFTheRagingWarrior Wait really ? Holy crap i had no idea :D Thank you so much for the infomation

@@smhht They say they would but we'll only be sure about it at blizzcon.

Gonna make the custom maps even better imo

I wish it didn't take a maraton run with each swing thou. Clipping doesn't feel nice.

One thing i don't like, scythe seems to shiny and impractical.

not done yet

I'd say the new style is a huge improvement tho

I think the people who were redesigning the models added way too much detail

Ahh...nostalgia.

Arthas should've listened... 😭😭😭

Well, it looks more like the drowned ghost ...

ghosts look more beautiful than jaina

@ॐ गणेश ॐ yep.

@ॐ गणेश ॐ Recolour that ghost into purple then become a banshee.

Yeah, it's like she's attacking you with her scream which is perfect for a banshee, they need to SHOUT at their living enemies!

Where'd you learned that?

Zero60133 To Answer that we will have to start at the beginning. Frostmourne was created by the Nathrezim, beings that, long before Sargeras Insanity, served the Old gods who in turn served the void lords. The Nathrezim were instrumental in the creation of the plague. Their earliest experimentations can be seen in Suramar during the war of the ancients. They experimented on Highborne citizens and soldiers alike. However their outcome was far different from what we know of as the scourge today. These highborne were turned into ghosts. It is a subtle reference to the manifestation of the shadow lands in the mortal plane of existence. Now we know the Revenants guarding frostmourne are Elemental by nature, and their leader is named The Guardian. Their appearance is otherworldy even for WCIII. I have a theory, the elementals served the black empire, but the ones guarding frostmourne are unique. Revenants have no affiliation with the Scourge as they have some sort of innate immunity to Ner'zhul's psychic control over undead. If they’re not there by the will of the Nathrezim or the lich king then who do they really serve? Its possible that they’re a form of elemental from the shadow lands themselves. The plane of death was warning us against using the sword because it saw that it was a threat to that planes very existence. Without souls going to the shadow lands I believe whoever holds power in the shadow lands loses power and that’s why the undead are the greatest threat to balance amongst all the planes of existence. Now here’s the catch with all of this, it likely requires an immense amount of power to send a soul from the shadow lands to the mortal plane. We’ve seen an example of this with the troll witch doctor who steals the power of Hakkar the soul flayer (a wicked and evil wild god / Loa) to return to the world of the living. The reason why there are so few revenants is because their summoning to the mortal plane required an immense amount of soul energy. Elementals were the greatest choice for the summoned shadow souls to latch onto to create the greatest counter against their enemy the Lich King. The elemental spirits are primitive and chaotic beings of fire, earth, air, or water. They were some of the first sentient creatures to inhabit the nascent worlds of the waking universe. Its possible that the shadow lands are another elemental plane which became influenced by the coming of mortals. So the fact that Revenants are Elementals by nature but are also undead and are guarding mortals against Frostmourne leads all the evidence to the shadowlands. Also wanted to add this line from the lore on the origins of the Elements “As Azeroth formed elemental spirits roamed the surface. As time went by these spirits became more erratic and destructive. The burgeoning world-soul was so vast that it consumed much of the fifth element, Spirit. Without this primordial force to create balance, Azeroth's elemental spirits descended into chaos.[6] With the rise of the Black Empire the Elemental Lords were enslaved as the Old Gods lieutenants. After the war between the titans and the Old Gods the keepers imprisoned elementals in the Elemental Plane.” From that text and the lore dive I just did, this all gives an extremely high chance we might be fighting some kind of Spirit Elemental as a raid boss in the next Expansion.

Zero60133 I know this is long, but I have done my best to find all the biggest connections of lore surrounding the lich king to the shadow lands.

Zero60133 what I find terrifying about all this is that we know absolutely nothing about our presumed enemy residing in the shadow lands, the one or ones that have possibly sided with sylvanas an undead over the balance of the planes of existence.

Zero60133 I had other theories too linking the tuskarr (aka Kaluak) to the shadow lands through their culture and rituals witnessed first hand as quests. But I decided their lore didn’t have enough history to link themselves definitively to the shadowlands. Their history only went as far back as the Wild Gods who were far younger than the Elementals. The same can be said about bwomsamdi and the trolls.

Fighting for Azeroth would be the best

That was literally my first thought after i saw them.

Yep, the unit effects haven't been implemented yet, just the model itself. This is the same with most other assets in these leaked pre-beta files. Don't worry, when finalised there should be effects included.

I know that there are revenants in wow, they just look so differently that you will not even realize it is them.

Yes man he is.

As we've seen already, and as Blizzard have stated is their plan, any unique or special units seen in the campaign will be given their own model. Like you'll see a new bandit model just for Menag and so on.

They've stated that they are adding around 1000 new models on top of the 5000 updated models. And this was a year ago, it could be more now.

@@smhht Well, they also warned that Jaina and Sylvanas would have much more prominence, because at the time both were secondary characters, taking into account that both are wow icons. Anasterian (Kael's father) and Thalorien appeared in Wrath of the Lich King, and they will appear here. Maybe even Lana'thel appears in the invasion of the Scourge to Silvermoon.

That and their arrows fly from the knee. Talk about a reverse "Arrow in the knee." to "Arrow from the knee."

They've really redesigned the dragons. They look more like a mix of the WoW- dragon, but with the WC3 style fin going down the back and with far superior graphics. Hell the Red Dragon Roost is fucking metal looking.

animations still wip

There is hardly a unit in editor which was not used somewhere in campaign :)

Which ones are you talking about specifically? :) As Arcane has mentioned, very, very few units (and these are usually 'cameo' units) weren't used in the campaigns.

Yeah! I mean for example you may be talking about the wraiths but one was used for the model of sylvanas when turned banshee and also appear in some camps. Orc Undead come from the Isles that Maiev goes to.

@@ArcanePower One I can think of off the top of my head was the succubus from another video - don't remember ever seeing them. But in total fairness I haven't played the campaigns in at least a decade lol

@@Oddballgaming727 :) Probably all Succubuses can be found somewhere in Outland missions of Blood Elf campaign.

They do.

Yes, i need it too:)

I need it either :D

Most of the revenants are from TFT bonus campaign.

I'm really glad they didn't. No retcons from WoW please. I like WC3 the way it is.

Obviously. There's simply no question. These are pre-beta leaked files, with missing animations, effects, and textures. Some of the poly work on the models themselves aren't complete.