"NEVER Should've Gone To Trial!" - Says Fmr. Prosecutor on Karen Read! 

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I can't imagine facing this case with a crappy court appointed lawyer!

Right? Makes me wonder who else in that district has received similar treatment.

Facts

Absolutely 100%

Best guest I've heard so far on any of the platforms. Crisp, clear and to the point.

I couldn’t agree more! I just commented that I hope there’s a documentary series and Bederow is the primary contributor. He doesn’t sensationalize, only adding to his credibility, IMO. The viewer can easily understand the miscarriage of justice that has occurred in this case. I didn’t even follow this case until trial day #9 and I’m just appalled that this farce is allowed to continue. ⚖️

I’m only listening to Mark Bederow,Melanie little and Vinnie politan on this case. In that order . Mark is spot on!!

He came in to this case late. He doesn't know all of Lally's pretrial prosecutorial misconduct. He doesn't understand. Lally's not punching a clock. He's praying for a guilty verdict to save him from personally being sued. Hiding discovery. Lying about delays. Getting caught in open court lying pretrial. Even before the trial started Lally went so far above and beyond any reasonable prosecutor his immunity is in jeopardy. That's why Lally does what he does. It's no mystery. Hell Lally delayed discovery until 2 weeks before trial. Even after signing his certificate of discovery he had still not turned over evidence. With evidence still outstanding he was whining to the judge about discovery from the defense.

@edwardscott3262 Yup...all true!

Are you not a citizen?

I have been thinking the same! The disrespect makes the conspiracy theory plausible. What's REALLY going on?!

John O'Keefe transferred into that precinct, because his sister and her husband died, so John moved there to take care of his niece and nephew. He was an outsider in that department not one of their own Irish mob-like thugs who have been enforcing the law with a heavy fist. The cover up came together so quickly and cohesively, actually quite shocking. That's what makes this case so fascinating.

Wow now it makes sense why his funeral was so poorly done. I have law enforcement in my family. I have zero respect for all of them and they know it and they know why. There are not a few bad apples...there are hundreds and thousands of them.

As a police officer, it sickens me you called this a botched case. This is clearly a cover up and intentional frame of this woman. They never even knocked on the door of the house with a dead body in the front yard? Someone told them not to. The police chief lives across the street and has a camera that points right at where she dropped him off. Rather than get that a d put it in evidence he just said it didn't show anything.

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I don’t know if it’s just my perception but nobody seems remotely bothered or shocked by the fact they ALL drove drunk. The police officer with the snow plough on his jeep that worked in the Alcohol, narcotics & tobacco seizures dept didn’t seem at all ashamed or embarrassed when he admitted IN COURT to having drank SIX whiskeys then drove to the police station to MOVE POLICE VEHICLES then drove home without a second thought or a care in the world! He had no shame whatsoever, incredible! He should lose his job for that alone.

I thought the same thing!

They definitely think, "it's legal when WE do it." And the fact that there's still a murder trial for the G.F. proves they're kinda right. The prosecutors also know she's innocent, and they know who did it.

How are you this dumb? KAREN drove. You have no evidence any of the other officers were "drunk" or didn't use designated drivers..

Bull&@?$

My exes buddy is a Detroit police officer. Listening to his stories literally made me sick. He'd talk about how they'd set ppl up, to make sure charges stuck. He'd say that no one is innocent, they're all guilty of something. He would swipe some of the drugs they'd confiscate. He said they'd keep extra to put on suspects, along with guns. He was so jaded & racist, needs to find another line of work. He's not intelligent enough to be hired outside of the city of Detroit, they'll pretty much take anyone. After so many yrs on the force, he still couldn't pass the test in a neighboring city. Such a pos smh... he was getting off work, saw a man beating on a woman & pretended not to see it, because his lazy fat ass didn't want to have to deal with it, he was off the clock. My ex (his boy), was abusive. He told him that if ever police get involved just to tell them that I'm delusional 😳🤦‍♀️

You Sleep at night.

@@MsAmyjoy7802 That's terrifying and also not surprising in the least. I'm glad you're not with your ex anymore, and that hopefully you'll never have to see that guy again

Yes, it's nothing new. I doubt it's done nearly as much to the white defendants as much as to people of color, but they're probably catching up. A y time it's convenient...also if a victim doesn't have an advocate, both they, and the defendant are screwed.

Exactly, except nothing will be done to them.

Justice will never be served for John O’Keefe. His fellow officers guaranteed that.

@@dizzee5768true but now people know what they did, this will follow them forever. .

There is another case happening in this district with some of the same police involved that also has a ton of sketchy evidence in it. I can't remember the case name, but that one may also get thrown out based on this case.

​@@Kalysta Sandra Birchmore.

And no one saw John’s body on the lawn.

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They all seem to be suffering from "selective memory disorder" 🙈

Iirc one of the other law commentators calls it the Canton brain worms, cuz they'll be all chatty with the prosecutor but cant remember 15 minutes ago with the defense

@@samx36 "Canton brain worms" is the colloquial term 😉 The term is spreading among all the Lawtubers 😁

Plus Google searches, missing footages, butt dials...

Dogs have upper and bottom teeth.The scratches are on one side

I didn’t know about a flooded basement. When was that?

@@caroljacques4243 do you have a document showing the dog has lower teeth? That said, experts have said marks can be made on only one side of arm. Atty. Melanie Little has a YT segment with one such expert.

​@KnitzyKitzy The Albert's removed the concrete basement then sold the house for $50K under fair market value during a sellers market. They said the basement concrete needed to be torn up because a toilet leaked. Right, that mJes total sense.

@@edwinodus exactly

@edwinodus Hi there! Thank you so much for responding. I love this discourse. We come from completely opposite perspectives, but I totally respect your opinions and I especially respect the fact that you truly do believe you're keeping and protecting your oath as an attorney. Truly. I can and have explained how Officer John O'Keefe likely sustained his injuries. It simply was not presented well in trial the first time around. Lally is one man against three high-powered attorneys. He did EVERYTHING. That's a herculean task. And he basically got a draw. I'm confident he learned a ton from this first trial and will approach it better next time. First, I am a very independent woman and thinker. Nobody dictates what and/ or how I think. I gather every piece of information/ evidence/ opinions/ ideas from every perspective I can find, and I draw my own conclusions, which are, of course, subject to change. I don't follow Kevin mindlessly by any means. I strongly disagree with him about some things, (one being that I FIRMLY believe KR is absolutely guilty of 2nd degree) but that doesn't mean I have to dislike him or be cruel about our disagreements. Friends, family, and loved ones disagree all the time. Thank God we do because what a boring, uneducational, disillusioned, unevolving world it would be if we were all zombies and just blindly followed and agreed with everyone about everything. I don't want to live in a world like that. Gross. Second, the biggest difference you and I likely have is that you are a lawyer who thinks in terms of guilty and not guilty, based on the presentation of evidence. I respect that you protect the integrity of our justice system by holding everyone accountable. However, I'm only concerned with factual guilt and factual innocence. I want criminals and dangerous people to be penalized and taken out of our society. I want to live in a world where we can trust our neighbors, teachers, police, etc. That said, innocence fraud campaigns TRULY do try their damnedest to corrode the very justice system you took an oath to protect and uphold. KR IS the first person that I know of who has put on an innocence fraud campaign during pre-trial as well as in real-time in America. It's disgusting. It's anti-American. It's scary. It's sleazy. It's actually ILLEGAL and obviously unethical. The fact that KR was literally FEEDING TB information straight from the case is ILLEGAL. The fact that TB and all his minions, who are, in fact, grifters, call innocent people unalivers AND report other FALSE INFORMATION as FACT, ILLEGAL. (Grifter: someone who reports knowingly false information as fact for their own benefit or profit). The fact that AJ and DY then turn around and tell the court that they are getting their information from the "media/press," ILLEGAL. Do you see that cycle? KR and team tell TB what to do and say with false information, TB gives all his talking heads similar bullet points to spread, then KR and team go to court with the claim that this information is "fact" because it's being, "reported in the press." ILLLLLEEEGGGAAALLLL!!! The biggest lie, in my opinion, is about the involvement of the FEDS, how they got involved, what they found, and the continuous lie that they are still investigating. Josh Levy did a political favor for "someone," and now his a** is going to be held to the fire. You'll see. THAT'S corruption. Calling KR a murd**r, b!+ch, and a cun+ is just TRUTH, not CORRUPTION. That's ALL they found, messages that are "mean" toward Karen. THAT'S IT. The DEFENSE asked the court to seal the information from that investigation in a pretrial motion, DY, to be exact. Why? Because they KNOW damn well that if it gets out that they found ZERO CORRUPTION, that's going to make all these FKR people scratch their heads. Or will it? At this point, I really don't know... so many people have been endoctrinated into this very CULT- like "movement" that they literally won't question anything. THAT'S a ZOMBIE mind. It's sad. These people think they're contributing their time and money to help an innocent person, which is a completely righteous act. However, KR, TB, and all the others profiting from these lies don't give an actual flying fu(k about any of them. They are using all these good-hearted, well-meaning people to incite hate and spread lies about innocent people and REVICTIMIZE victims of John O'Keefe's family and friends. If they knew the truth, and/ or when/ if they ever finally see the TRUTH, they will be sick, heartbroken, and feel so disillusioned and maybe even crazy. This saddens me a great deal. They need deprogramming, but I have my doubts about whether they'll even accept it, unfortunately. As far as attorneys believing this shit, well, again, are you maybe only speaking to people with a similar mindset??? I know MANY who see it for what it is, a DV breakup rage m**der. So, there is definitely a huge pool of lawyers who see the case clearly and straightforward. LawTubers, well, they are incentivized to spread the lies as well. Look at how much money they make from it. Superchats, donations, memberships, money from RU-vid, etc. It's gross. If they were brave enough to call it out, they'd lose all their followers, and we both know it. Again, look at my numbers vs. The Young Jurks, for example. Mike KNOWS the truth, and he IS ABSOLUTELY a GRIFTER. I have been in his chat several times trying to respectfully talk about my opinion, and he literally blocks me from chat for the entire show. This happens in all FKR chats and shows. Why do you think they absolutely will NOT invite others with a contrarian opinion, nor will they accept an invitation to a show who holds a different opinion??? That should SHOW EVERYONE THE TRUTH RIGHT THERE. But, for some reason, people want to live in echo chambers. I find that to be a horrible and unhealthy choice, but, hey! I do me, you do you and they do them. I'm always up for a healthy debate. I thrive on philosophical conversations. From what I understand, when a defendant uses a complete, or third-party culpability defense, they are, in essence, shifting the burden to themselves. (Factually, they don't HAVE to prove it, but the jury wants to see the proof in that pudding). If they make claims to a jury in opening, but then don't deliver during trial, juries often will feel misled and, as a result, are more likely to find the defendant guilty. This is something I've heard almost, if not all, attorneys agree on with regard to the complete defense position. To reiterate, I'm talking in terms of factual guilt. I had the privilege of researching and watching pretrial motions during the trial to find facts for myself. The jury couldn't do that, and the presentation was extremely discombobulated, which is understandable given that the CW had never handled a case with real-time innocence fraud. As a result, the jury was likely confused. I would have been. But now they get to clean up their case and present it on a clear, simple path from A to Z. I'm confident both the CW and the jury will get it right next time. That's just me. Love and Light ❤️ 🌻

@edwinodus She ABSOLUTELY hit him with her car. The marks on his arm align PERFECTLY with the clear taillight plastic, which I illustrate VERY CLEARLY (using Boundless Millenials content) on my reaction video to the episode on Melanie Littles podcast where she has a dog trainer spread dis/misinformation. John's head injury, I'm pretty sure, at least common sense tells me, came from hitting frozen ground. Frozen ground is just as hard as concrete. Don't believe me. Ask others who are credible professionals. CREDIBLE being the key word. She hit him with her car on purpose, traveling 24 mph for 62 ft, with all the bells and whistles shouting in her vehicle, which she ignored because she was in a rage. It's 2nd degree. She knew it, and she left him there to expire. She had SIX HOURS to get him help. Instead, she chose to try to cover her own a$$, and call a DUI lawyer and her daddy at 1am. She's dangerous. I believe she's a psychopath. And she belongs in prison, even moreso now because of the way she has and continues to terrorize John's friends and family... the community... the country... and beyond. SHE IS DANGEROUS. FULL STOP. This is a very simple case of domestic violence and break-up violence. That's what the conversation in America should be about; we need to bring awareness to the fact that about 50% of DV cases are actually men. They don't understand what's happening when they're in it, and society (wrongly) teaches us that women do not hurt or kill people they supposedly love... but THEY DO! It is my humble opinion that we, as a society, need to collectively gather round the O'Keefe's and support them in their quest for justice. They KNOW what happened. Do you honestly think you KNOW BETTER than his OWN FAMILY??? What if, let's say, your sister passed in a horrible way. Would you do your research and detective work to ABSOLUTELY ENSURE that they prosecute the correct person? Would you? I sure as hell would. Now imagine that AND THEN imagine that someone like me looks into it, finds some odd things, and concludes that I KNOW BETTER THAN YOU about how your sister passed. How would that make you feel? 🤔 It's preposterous and, quite frankly, kind of cruel. Just imagine how that would feel if it were your sister/ daughter/ wife. Imagine people using her name to both spread lies about you and your family, but also to raise money to defend her unaliver. My goodness!!! I honestly can't even imagine how that would feel. I would very likely ABSOLUTELY LOSE MY SHIT! For the sake of the argument, let's just say that maybe the person is not the unaliver, but YOU BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART that they are, it still would feel HORRIBLE!!! It goes to what I said in one of my podcasts, if I were wrongly charged with unaliving my man, at the VERY LEAST, I would tell the public that I SO APPRECIATE their support, BUT PLEASE DON'T SPREAD HATE AND LIES ABOUT MY HUBBY'S FAMILY OR FRIENDS. AND DON'T USE HIS NAME TO RAISE MONEY FOR MY DEFENSE. IT'S CRUEL. IT'S NOT SOMETHING I SUPPORT, SO PLEASE STOP. We'll prove my innocence without causing further pain and suffering to his family and friends. They are using John's good name to RAISE MONEY FOR THE DEFENSE OF HIS UNALIVER. I would be horrified and outraged. Karen is enjoying it. She ABSOLUTELY IS the one giving the orders to TB and he disseminates it to his minions and so on. But it all begins with Karen. I truly believe she is a dangerous psychopath. Why would she NOT tell the public to please stop hurting John's family and friends? They're already victims twice over and now all this... it truly breaks my heart. The O'Keefe's KNOW what happened to their loved one. Please listen to them. Love and Light ❤️ 🌻 'XXXXX. XXXXX @SorenPenrose The FEDS have been done for a LONG TIME. The ONLY thing they found were Proctors texts about Karen. That's it. He was pissed that's she UNALIVED him and he said mean things on his PERSONAL PHONE. He was venting. He is human. And he's a good cop who just got thrown to the wolves. He's another, in a long line, of Karen's victims. It's disgusting. You'll see.... patience.... Love and Light ❤️ 🌻

@@SunnySpirit19 hmmm, now you are beginning to sound like proctor himself. I wonder why 🤔

@@edwinodus Mmmmmmmmm Kaaaaaaayyyy, Jan! 😉

The thing is, there was SO MUCH conjecture around this case regarding John O'Keefe's injuries that it became difficult to discern what happened, let alone what a jury must be thinking. However, now that the Medical Examiner has testified, essentially saying his injuries could have been caused by several things, that was the nail in the coffin for me. Whatever people think of Karen Read, her outfits, her expressions in court, etc., IDC. An innocent person should never go to prison just because of overzealous prosecution and incompetent, albeit corrupt police work. This is the U.S.A.; we demand better of our judicial system, no matter who is a suspect.

@@collierlandry Sir I agree. I lost some cases in court because I made a mistake on the paperwork such as the times on the affidavit. The good attorneys would tell me before I got on the stand. Obviously,I didn't have it changed before I testified. They did it out of a courtesy. We have what's called a Giglio here in North Carolina. If the District Attorney finds your testimony untruthful, they can file paperwork which goes all over the State which means you cannot testify in any court and you are done in Law Enforcement. I retired October 01, 2023 with 30 years of honorable service. When I worked I was all business and I treated everyone the same. We had a Governor here and his wife was speeding. She thought I was going to let her go because of who she was. I didn't. She got a ticket just like anyone else. In all of my motor vehicle collision investigations, I looked at all evidence, interviewed all witnesses and had all filled out a statement. In all Fatalities, we had or have to call the District Attorney and explain to them what we have before we charge anyone. There is no way his injuries came from a vehicle backing 24 MPH. I can put my hand on the Bible and sleep good at night. Why not just tell the truth. Again, I have testified in many DWI cases and about 15 civil motor vehicle crash cases and the evidence is the evidence. From what I have seen, the evidence is just not there. I think it's a coverup and I hope an outside agency look into this. Attorneys are not cheap and this woman's reputation is done either way. These Troopers to me are not the type I worked with. She is in my opinion Not Guilty. When a Law Enforcement Officer loses Credibility, he or she is done and should be. Also, it's not a sideswipe. If she did do it, I don't understand why they charged her with second degree murder. The correct charge is Misdemeanor Death by motor vehicle. I charged it about 30 times in my career. Never second degree unless the driver was charged with DWI.

Well it sure would've helped if they had called you to testify!! Or maybe nothing would've helped really. If this town stinks as bad as this trial does, I'm SURE they fixed a juror. Why wouldn't they? They're corrupt to the bone! There's NO WAY a real live ordinary human could find her guilty. If they did, then we need to question our entire justice system. Because I now have ZERO confidence in it!

@@elliottjameson5405 It is SCARY how easily blinded some are when authorities speak ... Terrifying, in fact.... And innocent (maybe not kind, maybe she argued with him etc but didn't KILL HIM) lives have been suffering since the beginning of man.

@@dazzlingextremes389 I agree. It all comes back to one thing. The Injuries on his arm are NOT CONSISTENT WITH A motor vehicle crash. There is no way backing a suv would cause those injuries. The TAILIGHT is smooth and in my opinion, they are dog bites and someone beat him. No way did they come from a Motor vehicle crash especially backing at 24 MPH. I have seen what injuries can do as a result of a motor vehicle crash and these are no where near what I would expect to see at that speed.

It is called the only way Yanetti and Action Jackson could try this case. Third Party Culprit. Blaming everyone but Karen Read who murdered John O'Keefe IMO Criminal defense lawyers job is defending the guilty John O'Keefe DNA was found somewhere on the SUV You can look up the case law for Third Party Culprit.

@@AnnaChristie-vp4ip *Jen Maccabe is this you pathetically attempting to deceive millions of people with a few comments online* ?? *If you're not a friend or a family member of the murderer then you must believe that Epstein killed himself too*

Possibly by certain individuals & not whole groups or organizations-as is often.

YUP and it’s been this way a long long time in MA! I live about 20 minutes from canton. I’ve been here my whole life. If I told anyone the crap I’ve seen go down they wouldn’t believe it. I have stories stretching as far back as the 90’s. It’s scary. I try not to open my big mouth too much because I don’t want to put my family on their radar again. But I will say many lives have been ruined and even lost. The state has a huge problem with corruption in law enforcement and the system needs to be rebuild from the ground up. It’s that bad! This stems from the state police going back to whitey bulgers days. He corrupted the state police AND fbi and it’s been downhill ever since.

Stop yelling

That’s the most outrageous thing I’ve heard in this case. I mean there’s much more but those butt dials by 3 ppl. The phone today unless u have an older phone u really can’t butt dial. They really think ppl are stupid. Mind u there are some that think KR is guilty.

Canton Massachusetts!!! The Butt Dial Capital of the World

@@butterbeanqueen8148 🤣🤣

I was curious what the probability is of Jen making 6 butt dials without leaving a voicemail in a row and calculated this: I measured the percentage of the screen of a large iphone icon such as the passcode numbers and it is 2% of the screen. The lower end with a 4-digit passcode requires 7 inputs to make a call. The average ring time is 15s and most carrier voicemails automatically hang up after 30s of silence (which is an under-estimate since any background noise would extend this time). That gives the upper end of the probability of hanging up before the voicemail at 33%. Doing this 6 times in a row thus gives the following calculation of probability: ((.02^7)*.33)^6 which is a 1 in 1.74*1 trillion^6*100 chance.

@@butterbeanqueen8148😂😂😂😂

Of course they did.

Yes your correct it has been proven ,also the amount of so called butt dials between the same circle in one night? Makes no sense other than something sinister

of course

exactly. I'm disappointed Lank and Goode weren't asked why they never went to the actual house number given in dispatch to see what was wrong just to help cement the coverup.

You think?? 😂

And the constant sighing from her! So aggravating.

Cannone is one of the worst judges i have ever seen on a murder trial

_Can you tell us your name, for the record?_ *Objection!* “sUsTaINeD”

Why won’t the judge let in the cause of death? This makes no sense? Why would she agree to this? Help me understand! Thank you

Can we talk about how the JUDGE is running this case for the prosecution, but she knows she's being watched now (took her a couple weeks to accept that) so she has to tryyyy to make it look like she's fair (she's not), and she's corrupt AF as well?? She's obviously gotten away with this her whole career, which makes me think every case this town has brought under her needs to be given a new trial!! Why don't the attorneys have to state WHY they're objecting, LIKE EVERY OTHER CASE, and give the other side a chance to rebutt that objection before the judge just announces 'SUSTAINED?? ' He can just state objection after objection, throwing 💩 at the wall, hoping some sticks. And it does! Might as well object to every single thing, if you as an attorney don't have to give a reason for your objection! That's just ONE of the UNBELIEVABLE circus acts going on before you ever add a word by defense!

What?! When did she decide that?

@@BamaMom26it’s the manner of death not the cause.

You mean Judge Auntie Bev, who said to Jen at the end of day one of her cross "See ya in the morning, JEN!

I have been screaming this into a void the entire time. Thank you!

The idea is not to invalidate Celebrite completely. the idea is to somehow get the jury to believe that Celebrite was wrong in this instance. Not going to happen. I am sure the defense has an idea on how many times this CA's office has relied on Celebrite for other cases.

The State Police only investigates when a person is dead.J John O'Keefe was pronounced dead at 8 AM

The defense can't use this "experts" previous testimony about celebrite accuracy against them. It doesn't matter if in a hundred previous cases this "expert" claimed celebrite was perfect. In any future case. Whatever this "expert" says about celebrite accuracy can't even be brought up either. It's not fair but it's just how it is. Fight for changes in the law on expert testimony. Otherwise nothing is ever going to change.

A Grand Jury Indicted Karen Read it wasn't the DA.

I do believe there was a fight between O’Keefe and Higgins.

MC Alberts

The expert has just clearly articulated everything that I was thinking

Done dirt cheap. Massachusetts is on trial here.

@@jennyswift777 thanks for reminding me of the name! I try to keep it simple in case there is anyone that doesn’t understand that nickname. I have heard two floating around: Mcalbert trial and the butt dial trial, lol

...and Karen Read will have to walk away from the kids and hopefully leave the country for any sense of peace in her future. Besides, Boston is now a dangerous place for her.

Agreed!

I like him very much.

Thank you so much for watching and commenting! Have a wonderful day!

@@collierlandryyou as well!

You can see Bederow truly enjoys the law, litigating. He’s clearly disappointed with how the police handled it as Canton handed it off to State SERT team. Not to mention the powerful statement I’ve heard him say a few times about Lally’s opening… “Worst opening argument I’ve heard in 25 yrs.” That’s huge! No small potato claim there! Lack of evidence markers, containers. Well I hope Rita who’s helping w Police accountability by going to those meetings & select board meetings in Canton, can help Chris Albert budget the force w body cameras that won’t break or lose audio, a sally port w continuous feed not motion activated (which some have said is a lie… that it is continuous), and that this force has training for securing a crime scene! How to use tape even in inclimate conditions; how to place evidence markers & rulers to give context & proportion… This is a nightmare. I’m sure a town w population of 700 would do better than this suburb of Boston did!

I'm from the UK too and this case is absolutely unreal I've never seen so much corruption in my whole time watching these u.s trials

I'm watching from Germany

I’m in the United States. It’s fascinating how this case has garnered so much worldwide attention. And your interest in this case means a lot. Every time I get the chance I remind everyone that the world is watching how this case is handled. I think y’all are making a huge difference in shining a spotlight on this corruption. ❤

Devon

@@butterbeanqueen8148 I hope so. From the beginning I have been thinking this got to be corruption, it was just intuitive and at first turtleboy was bashed and now he's been proven right.

Same! I came in blind to this trial, and I still don't know how he died! This case is so screwed up.

Same. The only thing the prosecution has proven, repeatedly, is that it was in fact snowing.

Same here. I think that "What if any"-Lally might be dragging this out by calling every witness and then some so that maybe, maaayyybe, some sliver of credible evidence turns up before they have to rest their case.

I came in blind too and this has been the craziest trial I've seen from the leaf blower to open red solo cups in a grocery bag next to her vehicle which raised red flags to the shadiness of the ppl in the house and lead investigator

Same. I think Lally is trying to outrun the clock

Karen is lucky she has money for a top notch attorney.

The town is in an uproar about this case. They had a vote about hiring an outside company do audit on the police department. So many people showed up to vote that they had it in the school auditorium, the over flow were put in the cafeteria and the gymnasium. And they had to vote taken twice, because the yeses won. People do not fill safe in this town, because the majority think Karen is not guilty. If you watch "the young jerks " RU-vid channel they have copies of all the town meetings. This lawyer is on this RU-vid channel also everytime they talk about this case.

Many many!! It's soo bad.

At this pace we might not get there until June though...

@@TinaDanielssonI’d say you’re right since today is June 1

@@Tamara-id1pelmao

Right, usually (99.999%), the prosecution case is convincing. Here, no, I'm each day becoming convinced defense is right about the framing and defense hasn't even opened their case yet.

I hope they call a whole bunch too.

Judges have immunity. Unfortunately. She can be voted out!! People need to make some phone calls whoever lives in Canton .she absolutely should be Gone!!

BUT I AGREE WITH YOU 100% I only wrote what I did, because mark was asked this question last night, And he answered as such. ( something like that. )

The judge’s brother is connected to someone on the prosecution

The judges have too much power plus immunity but at the least cases overturned and reporting them to the bar can only help bring attention. Mostly they never have to answer look at Judge Merchan and Judge Engeron who just stomped all over Trump's due process rights and gagged him keeping him gagged now even though they found him guilty and he has the right to campaign speaking freely yet he is fighting for that right at the moment

​@liliprince100 her brother was the attorney for Chris Albert's Dui Manslaughter case 2009. Brian Albert owns the house chris is his brother & Colin the wanna be gangster is his son

Absolutely. Thank you for service.

My girlfriend lives on Magnetic Island ! I’m in Victoria 👋

Thank y’all for taking interest in this case. It makes a difference that the whole world is watching.

I was going to say the same thing. As a Brit from Manchester living in New Zealand, this case is international.

I am first generation Australian I live in SA - this case really has gone world wide I have seen many others commenting from all over the globe it’s incredible!

I'm watching from north east Scotland. Been sending videos like crazy to my pal in London.

The house wasn’t searched even AFTER they knew John was invited to the house for more drinks.

So the truth would not come out.

Woah I did not see or hear that! Was that in trial or statements?

@@gillypiexo Opening statement.

And called her a see u next Tuesday

@@gillypiexohe also illegally searched her phone, and told his buddies he was “looking for nudes”.

Ditto! I'm not near Boston, so I'm hoping the cops around here aren't as corrupt.

I grew up in Arlington. I lived in Ma for 66 yrs. Im in Florida. I am coming up next week for my granddaughters graduation. I remember when i was a kid we werent afaid of police.. its a whole different story now unfortunately...where in Ma are you?? ❤

@@candaceflores1528 I've lived most of my life in North Central Mass (where am I now). Pretty much all of the towns I've lived in would be considered small towns, so I'm hoping there's less corruption here!

Same. South of Boston here and I’m truly embarrassed (more than I already am to be a Masshole 😂)

The Staties should have done a professional investigation. Proctor should never be allowed to run his friends yard's murder scene.

Agree, and thanks for letting us know where we can hear more from this excellent Attorney. 👍

This would be fascinating - especially if it turned out to be something to do with internal affairs. Talk about motive...

I believe The Albert's and much more.

He was an SVU detective.

I think they only get to hear the commonwealth's side. It probably sounds more plausible when they don't have anyone poking holes in everything.

The saying, "you can indict a ham sandwich," exists for a reason. A grand jury indictment is based _only_ on the prosecution's side of the case. I guarantee they didn't see the red solo cups, the leaf blower, or know about the various law enforcement connections to _everyone_

Because The State lied they're butts off.

like they say" A DA CAN INDICT A HAM SANDWICH" which is a shame.

White Claw is nasty base alcohol after 2, but they go down easy, and people lose track.

@manguera9 She ABSOLUTELY hit him with her car. The marks on his arm align PERFECTLY with the clear taillight plastic, which I illustrate VERY CLEARLY (using Boundless Millenials content) on my reaction video to the episode on Melanie Littles podcast where she has a dog trainer spread dis/misinformation. John's head injury, I'm pretty sure, at least common sense tells me, came from hitting frozen ground. Frozen ground is just as hard as concrete. Don't believe me. Ask others who are credible professionals. CREDIBLE being the key word. She hit him with her car on purpose, traveling 24 mph for 62 ft, with all the bells and whistles shouting in her vehicle, which she ignored because she was in a rage. It's 2nd degree. She knew it, and she left him there to expire. She had SIX HOURS to get him help. Instead, she chose to try to cover her own a$$, and call a DUI lawyer and her daddy at 1am. She's dangerous. I believe she's a psychopath. And she belongs in prison, even moreso now because of the way she has and continues to terrorize John's friends and family... the community... the country... and beyond. SHE IS DANGEROUS. FULL STOP. This is a very simple case of domestic violence and break-up violence. That's what the conversation in America should be about; we need to bring awareness to the fact that about 50% of DV cases are actually men. They don't understand what's happening when they're in it, and society (wrongly) teaches us that women do not hurt or kill people they supposedly love... but THEY DO! It is my humble opinion that we, as a society, need to collectively gather round the O'Keefe's and support them in their quest for justice. They KNOW what happened. Do you honestly think you KNOW BETTER than his OWN FAMILY??? What if, let's say, your sister passed in a horrible way. Would you do your research and detective work to ABSOLUTELY ENSURE that they prosecute the correct person? Would you? I sure as hell would. Now imagine that AND THEN imagine that someone like me looks into it, finds some odd things, and concludes that I KNOW BETTER THAN YOU about how your sister passed. How would that make you feel? 🤔 It's preposterous and, quite frankly, kind of cruel. Just imagine how that would feel if it were your sister/ daughter/ wife. Imagine people using her name to both spread lies about you and your family, but also to raise money to defend her unaliver. My goodness!!! I honestly can't even imagine how that would feel. I would very likely ABSOLUTELY LOSE MY SHIT! For the sake of the argument, let's just say that maybe the person is not the unaliver, but YOU BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART that they are, it still would feel HORRIBLE!!! It goes to what I said in one of my podcasts, if I were wrongly charged with unaliving my man, at the VERY LEAST, I would tell the public that I SO APPRECIATE their support, BUT PLEASE DON'T SPREAD HATE AND LIES ABOUT MY HUBBY'S FAMILY OR FRIENDS. AND DON'T USE HIS NAME TO RAISE MONEY FOR MY DEFENSE. IT'S CRUEL. IT'S NOT SOMETHING I SUPPORT, SO PLEASE STOP. We'll prove my innocence without causing further pain and suffering to his family and friends. They are using John's good name to RAISE MONEY FOR THE DEFENSE OF HIS UNALIVER. I would be horrified and outraged. Karen is enjoying it. She ABSOLUTELY IS the one giving the orders to TB and he disseminates it to his minions and so on. But it all begins with Karen. I truly believe she is a dangerous psychopath. Why would she NOT tell the public to please stop hurting John's family and friends? They're already victims twice over and now all this... it truly breaks my heart. The O'Keefe's KNOW what happened to their loved one. Please listen to them. Love and Light ❤️ 🌻 'XXXXX. XXXXX @SorenPenrose The FEDS have been done for a LONG TIME. The ONLY thing they found were Proctors texts about Karen. That's it. He was pissed that's she UNALIVED him and he said mean things on his PERSONAL PHONE. He was venting. He is human. And he's a good cop who just got thrown to the wolves. He's another, in a long line, of Karen's victims. It's disgusting. You'll see.... patience.... We're coming for you, Josh Levy.... Love and Light ❤️ 🌻

I think people already know what happened in this case. It’s a shame and besides the killing of an innocent police officer, they are giving such a bad name to police in general.

@@mjaboston-gn3tuexactly we already know what’s happening.

Sadly, they believe Karen Read did exactly what she is being accused of doing.

@@lisajeter9511 who is they?

Host is completely lost. Totally ignorant of the subject matter. No excuse.

Bederow went into this blind without knowing the case and came up with this. Goes to show you his corrupt this case is against KR. Sad part is they will never know who did this to JO. The family will have no closure.

There was a female who started rumors about Morrisey

You are very foolish and gullible if you believe turtle boy mob

These small town police families are the most scariest thing to be near, I bet this happens throughout the country, people being fitted up for crimes and going to prison because of corrupt cop families. The Albert's and McCabes plus Higgins just show the arrogance of being a small town police family who think they run the town. Whatever happens a huge FBI investigation needs to be done into all of these people.

People have come after me saying she’s guilty. I don’t care, at this point, if she’s guilty or not. What I do care about is if she’s convicted based upon the mishandled evidence, inaccurate police reports, lack of a proper investigation and a bunch of witnesses with huge credibility issues. Because if that’s what happens then the bar to prosecute someone is going to be set so low that anyone could end up in prison for the rest of their lives for anything. And that’s terrifying.

@@AnnaChristie-vp4ipif you had a dead cop on your lawn you would be in handcuffs in the back of a cop car. Until the prosecutors can re-enact the accident and describe SPECIFICALLY every single one of John’s injuries they don’t have a case. What part of KArEn’s car made symmetrical bruise marks on John’s arms. He had a brain bleed and the only damage to her car is a piece of the back tail light? She’s innocent.

@AnnaChristie-vp4ip You really believe Jen McCabe, who was interviewed/questioned 11 or 12 times about that before claiming Karen said “I hit him” 3 times? She just forgot to mention Karen said that the first 11 or 12 interviews? Cmon now…

@@lindseystein9676 i hit him? And - i hit him ; are not the same. 5 people left that house and not a single person saw a 6 foot 2 man on the lawn? That’s what I would be focused on if I were on the jury.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

She is very close to the Albert family

They should ALL go to jail! Motion to dismiss should have been granted!

@@Bri66etteshe won’t allow that. She’ll make it go all the way. Which honestly I’m ok way cause when they say not guilty they all look more shameful.

She should have recused herself.

Grand Jury Indicted Karen Reads. The Judge is doing a good job. She was a criminal defense lawyer

LOVE Melanie Little!😃👍

The GoFundMe helped save Karen. ❤

@@marygoff3332 what are you talking about?

​@@Leahever777The District Attorney Michael Morrissey went on national TV to say that everyone is presumed innocent BUT the McAlberts were just innocent witnesses who are being harassed AND flat out said all the evidence is pointing to Karen. It's on RU-vid if you search his name. Highly recommend. It will infuriate you, but it shows how we got here.

The DA in the Bryan Kohberger case also had to make a public statement to protect witnesses who were falsely accused

The arresting officer was Pie. Proctor was always with a second trooper taking reports. He should have recused himself. They are written reports.The Federal Case is completed Conclusion sometimes there are no arrests Go volunteer .

I am beginning to think the same thing...

It sure does feel that way.

Yep, I noticed that the way the judge let Proctor hang himself on that stand.

Thank gawd a honest person approached the Defense attorney and spilled the beans. But was too afraid to sign a statement. Boom they brought in p.i's and this is where we are

Unc, praise to you for investigating this unjust case & because of that, the whole WORLD is watching! OG rider!🐢💚

And props to you Aiden. If it weren't for your tenacity and investigation we may not be here today 💓

HE should be Criminally Indicted along with the rest of the Dirty Cabal!!

Unless they testify in court do not believe them Do you see how they bully witnesses. The defense based their case on the Third Party Culprit Read the case law I didn't know lawyers could lie Shame on them blaming everyone ekse

Not is not true. The defense attorney asked his cronies on the FBI to investigate so they could abuse power to use our money to pay for her expert witnesses and to harass and intimidate witnesses

Jenn McCabe is a strong, dignified woman - you go girl!

@@ji5gz5fu3g what??

They were DEFINITELY looking for Johns phone.

@@karinaz8756 How do you know (saying “definitely”) were you there were you….you can’t know what you don’t know! I think you are wrong there. Why is it that certain people can never think outside of the square and for themselves but rather just believe what someone suggests to them and that it must be true because they’ve said it. There are two other absolute reasons that explains everything in regards to the Alberts and the McCabes that no one has even thought of yet.

@@ji5gz5fu3g this case is DONE. The phone is just one of NUMEROUS “coincidences”. At the end of the day if the Prosecution can’t re-enact the car accident and articulate how John got every single injury they Don’t have a case. What part of her car caused the symmetrical bruise marks on his arm. He had a brain bleed and she doesn’t have a single dent? The phone is irrelevant.

So his clothes weren.t turned in for testing for 3 weeks? The clothes that are meant to have microscopic fragments of tail light imbedded in them?

@ohwhatalife76 Apparently they were in the boot/trunk of Michael Proctor's car!!

whisper.. chain of custody...

All of that was intentional. The friend group didn’t want the evidence able to be used

What was their rush? Why break basic protocols that “Boston’s finest” should obviously have known about. All the years combined experience between Lank & Gallagher… should be ashamed of themselves!

What? You don't just easily "cut through" military bases on your way home from work?? And illegally dump your trash on them? Stopping at the checkpoint and explaining why you're entering, and doing the same to leave, is such a time saver! 🤨

That’s what I originally thought too. But a local from Canton said it’s an open base that everyone goes through all the time. She said that what he did wasn’t uncommon and throwing something away there is typical. But that seems to be one “normal” thing he did amongst a ton of nonsensical acts so it’s hard to imagine anything he did was normal.

The dog not barking- no one able to recall seeing the dog- the owners saying the dog was in the room, then the other owner saying the dog was in the closet?! wtf- lies.. all lies

I'm so amazed by this case that I watch both Emily's live streams and Runkle of the Baily's recaps to try to make any sense of it.

Where did they move to ???

That are really helping the defense (in my opinion).

Exactly the witnesses for the prosecution are the culprits.

The same people that have sworn to keep Law and order. To protect its citizens and to fight for justice for all. Yeah, ok!

I'm from HP Boston,... once a friend, always a friend. Loyalty runs thick and deep.

@@kookietherapy9398 Hyde park?

@melissahanna2815 She absolutely hit him with her car. The marks on his arm align PERFECTLY with the clear taillight plastic, which I illustrate VERY CLEARLY (using Boundless Millenials content) on my reaction video to the episode on Melanie Littles podcast where she has a dog trainer spread dis/misinformation. John's head injury, I'm pretty sure, at least common sense tells me, came from hitting frozen ground. Frozen ground is just as hard as concrete. Don't believe me. Ask others who are credible professionals. CREDIBLE being the key word. She hit him with her car on purpose, traveling 24 mph for 62 ft, with all the bells and whistles shouting in her vehicle, which she ignored because she was in a rage. It's 2nd degree. She knew it, and she left him there to expire. She had SIX HOURS to get him help. Instead, she chose to try to cover her own a$$, and call a DUI lawyer and her daddy at 1am. She's dangerous. I believe she's a psychopath. And she belongs in prison, even moreso now because of the way she has and continues to terrorize John's friends and family... the community... the country... and beyond. SHE IS DANGEROUS. FULL STOP. This is a very simple case of domestic violence and break-up violence. That's what the conversation in America should be about; we need to bring awareness to the fact that about 50% of DV cases are actually men. They don't understand what's happening when they're in it, and society (wrongly) teaches us that women do not hurt or kill people they supposedly love... but THEY DO! It is my humble opinion that we, as a society, need to collectively gather round the O'Keefe's and support them in their quest for justice. They KNOW what happened. Do you honestly think you KNOW BETTER than his OWN FAMILY??? What if, let's say, your sister passed in a horrible way. Would you do your research and detective work to ABSOLUTELY ENSURE that they prosecute the correct person? Would you? I sure as hell would. Now imagine that AND THEN imagine that someone like me looks into it, finds some odd things, and concludes that I KNOW BETTER THAN YOU about how your sister passed. How would that make you feel? 🤔 It's preposterous and, quite frankly, kind of cruel. Just imagine how that would feel if it were your sister/ daughter/ wife. Imagine people using her name to both spread lies about you and your family, but also to raise money to defend her unaliver. My goodness!!! I honestly can't even imagine how that would feel. I would very likely ABSOLUTELY LOSE MY SHIT! For the sake of the argument, let's just say that maybe the person is not the unaliver, but YOU BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART that they are, it still would feel HORRIBLE!!! It goes to what I said in one of my podcasts, if I were wrongly charged with unaliving my man, at the VERY LEAST, I would tell the public that I SO APPRECIATE their support, BUT PLEASE DON'T SPREAD HATE AND LIES ABOUT MY HUBBY'S FAMILY OR FRIENDS. AND DON'T USE HIS NAME TO RAISE MONEY FOR MY DEFENSE. IT'S CRUEL. IT'S NOT SOMETHING I SUPPORT, SO PLEASE STOP. We'll prove my innocence without causing further pain and suffering to his family and friends. They are using John's good name to RAISE MONEY FOR THE DEFENSE OF HIS UNALIVER. I would be horrified and outraged. Karen is enjoying it. She ABSOLUTELY IS the one giving the orders to TB and he disseminates it to his minions and so on. But it all begins with Karen. I truly believe she is a dangerous psychopath. Why would she NOT tell the public to please stop hurting John's family and friends? They're already victims twice over and now all this... it truly breaks my heart. The O'Keefe's KNOW what happened to their loved one. Please listen to them. Love and Light ❤️ 🌻 PS/ The FEDS have been done for a LONG TIME. The ONLY thing they found were Proctors texts about Karen. That's it. He was pissed that's she UNALIVED him and he said mean things on his PERSONAL PHONE. He was venting. He is human. And he's a good cop who just got thrown to the wolves. He's another, in a long line, of Karen's victims. It's disgusting. You'll see.... patience.... the corruption? Oh, you mean from Josh Levy and Karen's team? Yeah, we're coming for you... are you ready??? Love and Light ❤️ 🌻

@@melissahanna2815 HOW in the actual H E double hockey sticks, do you think ACTUAL EVIDENCE puts John in the house??? She ABSOLUTELY hit him with her car. The marks on his arm align PERFECTLY with the clear taillight plastic, which I illustrate VERY CLEARLY (using Boundless Millenials content) on my reaction video to the episode on Melanie Littles podcast where she has a dog trainer spread dis/misinformation. John's head injury, I'm pretty sure, at least common sense tells me, came from hitting frozen ground. Frozen ground is just as hard as concrete. Don't believe me. Ask others who are credible professionals. CREDIBLE being the key word. She hit him with her car on purpose, traveling 24 mph for 62 ft, with all the bells and whistles shouting in her vehicle, which she ignored because she was in a rage. It's 2nd degree. She knew it, and she left him there to expire. She had SIX HOURS to get him help. Instead, she chose to try to cover her own a$$, and call a DUI lawyer and her daddy at 1am. She's dangerous. I believe she's a psychopath. And she belongs in prison, even moreso now because of the way she has and continues to terrorize John's friends and family... the community... the country... and beyond. SHE IS DANGEROUS. FULL STOP. This is a very simple case of domestic violence and break-up violence. That's what the conversation in America should be about; we need to bring awareness to the fact that about 50% of DV cases are actually men. They don't understand what's happening when they're in it, and society (wrongly) teaches us that women do not hurt or kill people they supposedly love... but THEY DO! It is my humble opinion that we, as a society, need to collectively gather round the O'Keefe's and support them in their quest for justice. They KNOW what happened. Do you honestly think you KNOW BETTER than his OWN FAMILY??? What if, let's say, your sister passed in a horrible way. Would you do your research and detective work to ABSOLUTELY ENSURE that they prosecute the correct person? Would you? I sure as hell would. Now imagine that AND THEN imagine that someone like me looks into it, finds some odd things, and concludes that I KNOW BETTER THAN YOU about how your sister passed. How would that make you feel? 🤔 It's preposterous and, quite frankly, kind of cruel. Just imagine how that would feel if it were your sister/ daughter/ wife. Imagine people using her name to both spread lies about you and your family, but also to raise money to defend her unaliver. My goodness!!! I honestly can't even imagine how that would feel. I would very likely ABSOLUTELY LOSE MY SHIT! For the sake of the argument, let's just say that maybe the person is not the unaliver, but YOU BELIEVE IN YOUR HEART that they are, it still would feel HORRIBLE!!! It goes to what I said in one of my podcasts, if I were wrongly charged with unaliving my man, at the VERY LEAST, I would tell the public that I SO APPRECIATE their support, BUT PLEASE DON'T SPREAD HATE AND LIES ABOUT MY HUBBY'S FAMILY OR FRIENDS. AND DON'T USE HIS NAME TO RAISE MONEY FOR MY DEFENSE. IT'S CRUEL. IT'S NOT SOMETHING I SUPPORT, SO PLEASE STOP. We'll prove my innocence without causing further pain and suffering to his family and friends. They are using John's good name to RAISE MONEY FOR THE DEFENSE OF HIS UNALIVER. I would be horrified and outraged. Karen is enjoying it. She ABSOLUTELY IS the one giving the orders to TB and he disseminates it to his minions and so on. But it all begins with Karen. I truly believe she is a dangerous psychopath. Why would she NOT tell the public to please stop hurting John's family and friends? They're already victims twice over and now all this... it truly breaks my heart. The O'Keefe's KNOW what happened to their loved one. Please listen to them. Love and Light ❤️ 🌻 PS/ The FEDS have been done for a LONG TIME. The ONLY thing they found were Proctors texts about Karen. That's it. He was pissed that's she UNALIVED him and he said mean things on his PERSONAL PHONE. He was venting. He is human. And he's a good cop who just got thrown to the wolves. He's another, in a long line, of Karen's victims. It's disgusting. You'll see.... patience.... The corruption? Oh, you mean from Josh Levy and Karen's team... yeah! We're coming for you... are you rrrreadddddy??? Love and Light ❤️ 🌻

I certainly find this trial a disgrace to our Justice System!

Thank you for ur service. ❤

The investigation was so suspiciously sloppy, right?!

It wasn’t even close to an “Investigation”, it’s a Glaring Coverup.

@@BlessedMomfmTexas Thank you so much for your appreciation!

This is a Mass Law.

So far we've only heard the Canton police testify to that. So I really hope they call the state troopers that supposedly got that call and they're like "they didn't call us" and there's evidence from their phone system backing that up.

😂 May be for some people who believe if someone says something it must be true right

You do know he is being paid

@@caroljacques4243 That explains it. You can also pick conspiracy theorists out - they get hyped up and get this look when they are talking about it (like enjoying it) - it’s weird!

@@caroljacques4243 He is not paid, dear Alibi McCabe. Say hi to your mum, she should enjoy outdoors these days, when she can

Even bigger question...how did they know everyone in the house was ok? With a dead person on the lawn how did they know a crime did not occur and more victims could be in the house? And this is Jen's sister's house. Wouldn't you immediately go to the house to check on your sister? There is no answer except they all had to already know everyone in the house was fine.

They did though, later that morning. But it was not to do proper interviews. They just had a general conversation with everyone in the house sitting together.

Jen did go into the house, went running in their. No concern that a killer might still be in the house. And the dog never barked at all, even with a woman running around screaming.

​@@GPDogDrool that's such a good point!

The body being on the property really wasn't probable cause for a search. But the police certainly should have knocked on their door to see if they're ok, do you have security cams, etc.

🫶Karen!

Review second take testimony Higgins gives an explanation about the phone

I honestly don’t think they will unless someone decides to reinvestigate this. All evidence has been contaminated or destroyed. Someone would have to admit to doing it. It’s sad for the O’Keefe family.

They are cops. They absolutely could walk free.

Yes agree? The corrupt, the liars all linked to the Alberts get away with murder???

​@@dizzee5768 I agree except Fibbies sniffing around, only chance. Won't be Canton COP SHOP. Jen McCabe, is going all out, family could lose pension, or be jailed. She "gets" it.

Even without the evidentiary issues, the very fact they put the wrong person on trial creates a lot of up front reasonable doubt for any other likely suspect.

EXACTLY!! AND..... the day before they drove all the way to New York for a funeral of a fallen brother in blue! But he couldn't walk out his own FKN front door when there was a dead officer on his own front lawn??!! 🤦‍♀️🙄. Tell me how THAT makes sense in ANY way, shape or form!! 🤬🤬