NEVER SOLDER PIPE AGAIN - 3 Ways for EASY DIY Plumbing

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Plumbing has never been EASIER with 3 EASY instant ways to work with copper pipe, replace valves & make repairs with NO TORCH NO SOLDER. I show you the LEAST expensive way through how PROS have pros have stopped using SOLDER in favor of PROPRESS & SHARKBITES & why
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@SilverCymbal 3 года назад

Thanks for watching please *LIKE & SUBSCRIBE* - Manual Tool amzn.to/3A1dl18 Autocut Pipe Cutter: amzn.to/35TrSOH

@SilverCymbal 3 года назад

@@itsm3th3b33 Conveniently? It was exactly the same as he lower connection. What am I missing here?

@jackmclane1826 3 года назад

@@SilverCymbal I also wonder about how you got press tool in there behind the other pipe. I think this is what he meant...

@SilverCymbal 3 года назад

@@jackmclane1826 Ah! Ok, it was tight but still had about 4-5" and the tool was able to get right in there.

@RossMalagarie 3 года назад

Best way to fix a copper line? Change it out for PEX and use a tool-less pressure fitting, (shark fittings). Your welcome.

@jonathanthink5830 3 года назад

the propress tool dent the copper pipe at 1:20 mark. is that normal?

@whoyoukidding1 2 года назад

I normally solder my copper lines but as a homeowner, and not a professional, I don't have to do it very often. About 6 or 7 years ago I had to add an on/off valve to my domestic hot water system. I cut the pipe where I needed the valve and, no matter what I did (turned off the water supply, opened all the faucets) I still had water pouring slowly out of the pipe. I bought a Shark Bite ball valve. Easy as heck to install and after all these years, not a drop of leakage.

@DavidBasara-p8s 8 месяцев назад

Nice , but be sure its in an accessible area where it won't be exposed to freezing and where it won't damage anything valuable if it does leak.

@Alan-tr5uj 7 месяцев назад

⁠@@DavidBasara-p8s- Follow that advice for propress also. Those o-rings inevitably will fail, and a press-fit is NOT something you should count on to prevent eventual leakage. Solder is still the gold standard, period. Twenty years from now that will be unanimously agreed upon.

@DavidBasara-p8s 6 месяцев назад

There's no way I would trust it

@TradBarbie 2 месяца назад

My heart is broken by this. I love Shark Bites 😢

@TradBarbie 2 месяца назад

What about using all PEX??

@Fixin-To 3 года назад

“And you’re often working in tight spaces” Que the biggest crimpers known to Man.

@SuperTalleyho 3 года назад

My thoughts exactly.

@KamiEpix 3 года назад

@Bdbbejdjdb Snnsndndndn the o rings are more of an added safety feature I've seen one under my uncle's sink and he said it's been there for 4 years or so

@1keykneedeep 3 года назад

The dude is a moron. I guarantee if your not working with perfect copper - Junk ass sharkbites will leak. Propress is nice but expensive. And u still gonna need that torch eventually so why bother.

@tbear68- 3 года назад

😂😂😂

@jinkertsun 3 года назад

I thought that. Pleased I'm not the only one.

@2GoodLookin 20 дней назад

Sharkbites absolutely rocks. I love how it's only the plumber that find a cases where a Sharkbite failed cause they don't want customers to feel that they are not needed anymore.

@Nershedify 3 года назад

My company switched to propress for all our jobs to save time. The fittings work just as well as solder most of the time. But the fittings are more expensive than regular. As for sharkbites, I have used them for temp fixes, but ive also been on a job where a 15 yr old hotel had joints burst monthly due to over use of sharkbites to save time. The design may have gotten better since then, but realize that water will push even soldered joints off after 70-100 years. All you do with sharkbites is halve that number. This doesn't sound like a problem until you realize you might be paying off your house that you do the work in for 30+ years or if you plan to live in the house well into your older years.

@JoeTaber 3 года назад

"water will push off soldered joints" That's a new one to me

@Nershedify 3 года назад

@@JoeTaber It will either push through the solder or copper through a pin hole or push the whole joint off given enough time like i said. Running water under pressure is no joke. Look into thrust blocks for larger pipes for a larger example. But in old buildings I have seen old solder joints pop off and have had seminars from X ray techs that get sent out by insurance companies to look into such leaks and failures when its needed. The weirdest thing is that the water actually makes little "hoove" prints in the pipe facing the opposite direction of the flow with solder joints.

@CondoreComputing 3 года назад

@@JoeTaber One of the reasons water hammer suppresors are used now. Given enough time water will find a way through even a solid copper pipe / solder joint.

@koyoteekoy916 3 года назад

Hotels also have much higher water pressure than an average home. The Hotel I worked at, had more than triple the pressure of my house.

@johnmiranda2307 3 года назад

BINGO! Details. Details.

@epi2045 3 года назад

Really interesting. I’ve always soldered pipes and I’m very very meticulous about it. However I think these are good solutions for temporary or low pressure use. Unfortunately many people don’t solder very well or they are very sloppy about it.

@C-64 2 года назад

Yeah there’s really nothing to it..

@SSintox 2 года назад

You're lucky if that an OLD OLD house and it doesn't have a gas water boiler or gas heater. A big KABOOM and you flight across the window is not worth it. PEX, or ProPress (press-fit), or flare fit (like the gasoline lines under the cars).

@Sean2002FU 2 года назад

@@SSintox bullshit! ( see other comment)

@bobloblaw9302 2 года назад

@@Sean2002FU Agreed. Bullshit. At best very temporary.

@edgarst837 Год назад

Just used Sharkbites to fix my main water line. Had what was about to become a pinhole leak due to too much flux being used during the house constrution 26 years ago. The flux had settled in the pipe and was causing a small drip. Turned the water off, cut out the bad part of the line and reconnected with two couplers, a slip fit and and some new copper pipe. I used them on my old house when I replace the water heater. I love them because you can connect copper, to PEX or CPVC or any combo of the three.

@keith3761 Год назад

Are you saying Flux from soldering can degrade copper pipe?

@edgarst837 Год назад

@@keith3761 If too much was used and it was an acid based flux, it can. It will settle in the low spots in the pipe and slowly over time eat through the copper. My house was built in 1997 and I noticed a copper stain and calcium buildup on a pipe. When I ran my finger over the pipe it came back wet. I cut that section out and repaired with Sharkbites. When I scraped away the calcium buildup on the part I cut out I found a pinhole. I estimate 3-4 months it would've failed.

@tassie7325 3 года назад

I recently had some pluming to be done around the house and called in the pros. They used something similar to the Sharkbite on everything and after they left I was left wondering why I needed to pay a professional to do that.

@wamengxiong0409 3 года назад

@@auspicioustoot #technicallythetruth

@wamengxiong0409 3 года назад

Its alright, now you know

@rustybenthammer6548 3 года назад

thats ok do it yourself next time and than a plumber after you fuck it up royally so he can charged you triple

@alexanderblakeney226 3 года назад

Because the pro-press kits are close to 10 grand and those pros spent years learning the trade. Go ahead - try it yourself. See how many leaks you get.

@rustybenthammer6548 3 года назад

@@alexanderblakeney226 As a plumber most of my calls are do it yourselfer's that got in way over their head. It's a lot more money if I have to fix their screw-up's before Fixing it properly. You can't teach 20 years of experience. There's a reason you call the pro's, flood damage is expensive. I've seen it happen more than a few times. Also pro-press is good but the gasket's fail over time, water eats rubber, they last 5-10years depending how often and your water conditions (i.e Hardness of the water) Solder is tried and tested and proven to last 30 years minimum. Solder is a difficult skill to master but a perfect solder joint is better than anything. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise. Plastic is Junk, Rubber is ok but will fail eventually and you better hope your around when it does eventually fail on you.

@RickLaBanca 3 года назад

It’s hard to believe any type of o ring wouldn’t eventually deteriorate.

@dj-kq4fz 3 года назад

Agreed, but even soldered fittings can fail due to expansion and contraction, but time will tell. Perhaps not being exposed to air helps. Still, pretty cool seeing it used the first time recently by pros.

@atroche1978 3 года назад

@@dj-kq4fz I had a plumber fit my shower blending valve and shower head. He never explained that he would be using propress fittings. When I saw the final job, I had him remove the fittings and solder everything. I'm no pro but it's too soon to tell how these fittings will last, in my opinion.

@dj-kq4fz 3 года назад

@@atroche1978 I totally agree! I have a lot of confidence in my contractor friend (whose crew did the work), plus it was exposed in a basement. with minimal potential for catastrophe, but, it was still an eye opener for me. I really don't blame you.

@sweetsourpork111 3 года назад

@@atroche1978 The only fitting I have seen leak after proper installation

@kito1san 3 года назад

Exactly. Well, there is always that same idea. It won't happen in their life time when it's installed. However, it will bound to happen and good luck to the poor soul who inherited the problem.

@phillyfitter4079 9 месяцев назад

Compression fittings are the best alternative especially if you have high water pressure. Shark bite fittings can "pop off" under higher pressure

@jeffhogueison1656 3 месяца назад

I have used many compression fittings on copper for repairs under sinks or adding shut-off valves and never had a leak in about 20 years so far. No soldering.

@mackdog3270 2 года назад

I can see the point of those quick fixes. Sometimes things need to get done in a hurry and anything will do. The trouble is, in the long run, those connectors will cost you a lot more money. I just learned how to solder, and as long as you have a basic understanding of the process, it's not difficult. I quite enjoy it.

@waterturtle2919 2 года назад

Not at all. In large parts of Central Europe, press fittings have been the standard for over 10 years and been in operation for ~20 years. Its extremely rare to find anyone still soldering copper pipes in Germany. Press fittings are so reliable that they are even commonly used for copper gas pipes. There are generally more reliable than soldering and also easier to use, reducing the amount of mistakes. The only downside is that those press fittings are more expensive. Most of the time, its still the better choice.

@nonyafkinbznes1420 Год назад

@@waterturtle2919 "There are generally more reliable" Soldered pipes commonly last at least 50 years. The newer tech won't be proven for another 30 years.

@boots7859 Год назад

Yeah, the press fittings are more expensive than simple sweated ones. I had a new hydronic boiler put in last year, and the amount of piping in and out, zones, manifold, etc was almost alarming. Just counted about 25-30. Once they got the old one out, I let them be as I didn't want to be looking over their shoulder like. About 40 minutes later after hearing all this whirring and clinking, one of the guys comes out to ask me a question about the vent. I go in to look, expecting to see a mess, and no its all basically done and they just have a question about the vent. Guys where probably 22-23, and with only one guy being able to fit in the closet with the boiler, no way you could conceivibly set things up to have completed all of those fittings with a flame. TL;DR, If I can do 2 press fittings in the time it takes for you to do 1 flux and solder, then my labor cost is going to be close to 1/2 of yours. And I swear I heard a whir/clink, 5 seconds later whir/clink, 10 seconds later whir/clink, maybe another 10 seconds whir/clink and on and on. If you want to be competitive as a plumber, general or quoting, you are not going to be able to beat the price of the next guy using press. Similar for PEX plumbers too. Furriers, the guys who used to shoe horses along with blacksmiths probably said the same thing about them new fangled oww-tow-moe-beels.

@grimmpseudonym5941 Год назад

Our house was built in 1979. The soldered copper pipe fittings failed after 20 years and in the straight pipes in multiple locations under the slab, causing flood damage. If it was an incompetent plumbing job, I expect it would have failed sooner. At the time of the failure, Sharkbites were just coming out, so we rigged up a temporary fix... that now is permanent, because 24 years later, it already has outlasted the original copper fittings. Copper is not eternal or infallible, and what really irritates the plumbing experts is that instead of relying on their expertise, we're surpassing it. To rerun the copper in my house, they quoted us $6000. I fixed it with $200 worth of Sharkbites and a roll of Pex. As far as I'm concerned, Sharkbites have proved their mettle far better than professional installed copper.

@FC-qe1wl 10 месяцев назад

rigged up a temporary fix..... Ahhh yes.......there is nothing more permanent then a temporary repair....

@Turboman62 8 месяцев назад

I also had to repair some failed copper in 3 different spots in a large, expensive house my daughter had that was built in 92 with all copper plumbing. The copper had multiple small holes in it in several places. I don’t know if it was residual flux that ate into the pipe, but it surprised me, and showed me that soldered copper doesn’t necessarily last near as long as I thought it would.

@davidjacobs8558 Месяц назад

usually, it's the copper pipe that's failing, not the solder joints. copper will corrode, and small holes will develop in the pipe wall.

@nick_the_greek77 3 года назад

You're a brave man Silver Cymbal. I would be terrified of Steve Lav finding out about this video :D

@SilverCymbal 3 года назад

Very true, you know what he would say about any of this stuff but in reality it does work very well.

@non8743 3 года назад

Lool I’m on the floor, real shxt show momma

@davestout844 3 года назад

She's a leaka momma.

@BourneAccident 3 года назад

@@davestout844 lol

@philllsxga.7737 3 года назад

LoL!!!

@erichayton8188 2 года назад

I love how they completely over sell the difficulty and dangers of soldering, then show you a bunch of gimmicky crap that is way less reliable and will definitely cost you more time than just doing the job right. ALSO: Yes shark bites leak……almost always!

@CT-vm4gf 2 года назад

Shark bites almost always leak if they are installed by someone that doesn’t know what they’re doing. Same as soldering.

@Russianmafia10 2 года назад

If you install it properly they don't leak can't say for long term though

@nck4888 2 года назад

@@CT-vm4gf shark bites always leak no matter what if it doesn't leak now it will later, stick with soldering none of the gimmick crap

@hondaguy9153 2 года назад

I've installed shark bite fittings, shut off valves and a PRV in my own house. I've never had one leak in over a decade.

@mathieuedde1465 2 года назад

@@nck4888literally everything leaks eventually

@mrsleep0000 2 года назад

Those will be fun to replace when the O rings start breaking down.

@zunfren 3 года назад

I can confirm shark bites saving our ass on a cold weekend instead of waiting and "hoping" for a plumber to arrive with an expensive fee.

@MisterTwister88 3 года назад

Do you expect them to show up for free?

@Ozzie4Para 3 года назад

@@MisterTwister88 obviously no one should work for free. Plumbers, electricians etc are skilled tradesmen who should be paid accordingly. But at the same time, their fee(s) should be reasonable fees. I had my water heater fail a few years ago. I picked up a new one from Lowe's and I brought it home. I was in a hurry so I called a plumber to see what they would charge to remove the old one and install the new one the next day. A plumber told me no problem, they could do it the next day for $300! I couldn't believe it. $300 for about one hour's worth of work which is exactly how long it took me to do the job that same evening. My God, I know everyone needs to make a living but come on. $300 for an hour's worth of work? Sheez! My freaking attorney's hourly rate is $250. lol

@MisterTwister88 3 года назад

@@Ozzie4Para Maybe you should have purchased the heater from the plumber instead of Lowes, the total cost might have been less. You must go out to eat once in a while, do you bring your own steak for the restaurant to grill?

@Ozzie4Para 3 года назад

@@MisterTwister88 yeah whatever. Then the plumber probably would have made even more money from him selling me a water heater as well as paying $300 to install it. Whatever way you look at this is your choice. But charging a reasonable fee and outright screwing people are two different things. And in my case, I’m glad I didn’t let someone screw me for an hour’s worth of work for $300. That’s just highway robbery no matter what color you color it.

@pnv8477 3 года назад

@@Ozzie4Para The guy talking is clearly in the trade and rather you pay more money at any cost then do it yourself. He makes his living off the trade and Doesn’t want overcharging customers to interfere and disturb his life.

@Charlielizard 3 года назад

This was excellent. You've got incredible info and have saved me bucket loads of $$$. Thank you👍👍👍

@SilverCymbal 3 года назад

Glad it helped!

@Hindukushsailing 3 года назад

No it didn't it would be cheaper to solder

@Charlielizard 3 года назад

@@Hindukushsailing You might learn to read. Over the expanse of time as a subscriber, I have shaved quite a bit of money. I wasn't referring explicitly to this technique. However, because of the possibility of fires I won't use solder. In fact, because of chemicals, I won't use it at all.

@ashleylynn8489 Год назад

I carry Sharkbite Max PTC to FNPT ball valves and PTC end caps for emergencies, running water, full pressure installations, crawl spaces, temporary use, mock ups , freeze calls and more I carry the FMPT ball valves so that I can transition to a variety of brass, copper and PEX fittings, and they eliminate one PTC connection once I stop the flow of water

@johanramone 2 года назад

I've worked as a plumber for 14years and the viega/ridgid/geberit preasure mashine have been used here in Sweden since ive started. It also works for compressed air systems BUT you have to swap out the rubber rings inside all the parts! For hot wather (in Sweden anyway) the soldered parts is less effective than these pressed parts and starts to leak a few years erlier! And the machines is much smaller here to!

@michaelkastenberg6462 Год назад

I worked as a plumber in Germany for 23 years. Since i have started we used only Viega Profipress, and never ever had a problem. Why do you have to replace the Ring for compressed air? Never heard about that. We only had to replace the Ring if we used it for solar pipe, due to the heat... Funfact: i live in sweden (Östra Småland) too since last year december 🙂

@johanramone Год назад

@@michaelkastenberg6462 welcome to Sweden! The original rubber rings cant stand the high pressure so it needs to be swooped out to the red ringt. We found that out the har way. The whole indtallation exploded. It happend to my friend.

@michaelkastenberg6462 Год назад

@@johanramone tack så mycket 🙂 I checked it again, if you use Viega Profipress Fittings, you dont have to replace the Ring for compressed air. I guess it was another Brand that you are using.

@johanramone Год назад

@@michaelkastenberg6462 Cool! Thanx. well it happend about 8 years ago so i gues they have improved since then. perhaps the hard way to =)

@brianlevine249 Год назад

My house is like 50 years old with soldered joints everywhere and not a single one leaks.....

@Laserman99 2 года назад

Great idea, now I know where space shuttle designers are working. O ring design 101, the force must be directed through the o ring

@blzt3206 3 года назад

I've never seen a plumber that recommends press fittings. Every plumber I've talked to says solder is the standard for a good reason. It's way more reliable.

@SilverCymbal 3 года назад

Propress is used by many plumbers because it eliminates the need for a permit required to use a torch for commercial work. They also use it since it is faster and saves the time. They won't recommend shark bites more from spite I thin, they have an amazing track record if you really look into them.

@HMNNO 3 года назад

Majority of plumbers aren’t going to want to learn something new. Why change if they can just do the same thing

@Charlielizard 3 года назад

@@HMNNO And charge more $$$.

@CT-vm4gf 3 года назад

That’s possibly because a lot of people are stuck in their old ways, they refuse to embrace technology. Or don’t know how to install it properly.

@atroche1978 3 года назад

@@CT-vm4gf if it ain't broke don't fix it

@mkl5448 3 года назад

As long as the shark bites are exposed, and installed properly, they do just fine. Most of the fails occur when they are either reused, or not pushed all the way on.

@nateg08 3 года назад

Yeah I had a major leak in my bathroom and when I cut open the wall they had used shark bites. I fixed it with propress but I had to replace the bottom 2 feet of drywall around the whole bathroom along with insulation on the exterior wall. What a mess. Thankfully it was on the bottom floor with concrete slab

@bradhaenitsch1145 3 года назад

Thank you people don’t understand they are rubber yes rubber o rings and they will need replaced so don’t bury em boys and they are expensive

@olehyrole8535 2 года назад

To all Americans here: Pro press System are used about 30 years in Europe. If used right they worke and hold up fine. And our houses last longer than yours so we use stuff thats working.

@johnharbour3158 3 года назад

Bad thing is, sharkbites tend to twist, so makes a valve a little more difficult to use

@euroovca25 Год назад

i did my own heating system using rems press fitting. i got the press, finished the job and sold it for the same price i purchased it. :)

@freshoxygen2176 3 года назад

Don’t worry. I fix homeowner or “handyman” Plumbing ALL THE TIME. God Bless the Trades and the passed down KNOW HOW

@mikebonvi5593 2 года назад

I've used shark bite on pipe for the longest time when I owned rental property. Those late night calls were a cinch

@BurninSven1 2 года назад

The first thing you need to know is you absolutely need to install a valve that let you shut down all the water coming in to the house and a few more on strategic places in your water system in your house. Once that is done you don´t have to worry much about what to use to lengthen or repair your water pipes just use something that really works in the shop closest to where you live. Old clamping ring couplings will work just fine as long as you make sure to use the small supports you put inside of the pipe before you tighten the coupling.

@michaeldavison9808 2 года назад

Most of my taps and toiled inlets have their own in-line stopcock. They are invaluable for little bits of maintenence without turning the water off to the house.

@AStanton1966 Год назад

Whenever you do a bathroom or kitchen remodel, always have the plumber swap out those old shut off valves.

@dangrimes5078 2 года назад

When shark bites get hot from soldering near by they still work. I have a couple shark bite valves. 3/4" copper pipe. I've had them for a few years. Not one drop of leaked water.

@CharmONTeur Год назад

😂 ok guys i worke as a plumber since 2006 and i learned the press system at this time… do you wanne see the future of plumbing?? Come to switzerland.. you would be surprised whats possible

@rosevan5485 3 года назад

New to your channel…. I am quite the thorough man…. So far love your videos. Congratulations !

@SilverCymbal 3 года назад

Awesome, thank you!

@donaldducko6580 3 года назад

“Never solder again.” Why Pex was invented.

@roodick85 3 года назад

Lol that's what I thought too..we already solved this

@Steve0885 3 года назад

Exactly

@non8743 3 года назад

Ok DIYer

@GeorgeS68 3 года назад

Those Pex tools are $$$$

@cesarmarx 3 года назад

@@GeorgeS68 I got a crimper and a cutter for less than $100, fittings is around 5 a bag .

@JM-lw3nx 2 года назад

That Propess system looks impressive.

@scarypitskydazysdogs Год назад

This was not clickbait 😌💯💪

@Kudeghraw 8 месяцев назад

Cute. Going to stick to soldering. Its not hard. Not sure why folks have such an issue with it. Pro tip: use an old license plate if you have to solder in walls. Its bendable and shields the flame!

@ramonleon5175 Год назад

Thank you for sharing this, Adios Torch ! ✌️

@domovoii 2 года назад

Молодцы. Вот так в развитых странах трубы монтируют. А у нас болваны пластик используют

@peterreid4567 11 месяцев назад

We get these supplied with grant oil boilers. The elbows never leak

@bv2999 Год назад

SharkBites: They only Leak due to Installer Error. Ex: If you do not properly debur the pipe a copper sliver can slice the O Ring. For those people saing " oh but the O ring can dr out etc - Not in YOUR Lifetime - they are NOT made of Rubber, rather they are made out of a EPDM material designed for Industrial plants that can withstand high heat and other abuse. Made from Lead Free Brass and Stainless Steel. Made a "temporary" trial setup 12 years ago with several fitting and then another under sink set up 7 years ago - never a leak.

@chrisfuller1268 2 года назад

Holy crap, the head of the $175 tool is much bigger than the space I have in most repairs.

@enemyofthestatewearein7945 8 месяцев назад

I'm not why there is this common US aversion to push fit fittings. In the UK they are very popular even with professional plumbers. Most do exposed pipework around heaters, under sinks etc. in copper and all hidden plumbing is done with PEX & push fit fittings. All of the problems I've ever seen with push fit were down to incorrect installation, if the pipe end is properly prepared and seated they don't leak. I have, however, heard multiple plumbers complaining that push fit has deskilled their trade so there are unskilled people like general builders taking their work (and probably doing poor installation also, because they don't know what they are doing) but to be fair, that's not really a problem with the fittings.

@B15SDMDESIGNS 10 месяцев назад

Soldered joint over any other type of fitting any day!

@OscarHedden-eh4xk 7 месяцев назад

I've always enjoyed soldering. Old fashioned means higher quality.

@kbdigitalblock 2 года назад

Just subscribed and like just because of you giving the shark bite tip... great overall video..thank you

@maglen69 7 месяцев назад

If it's cheap, and it works, it's good enough.

@ryzezee8543 Год назад

the only "non-solder" copper pipe "permanent" binding I recommend is using a compression ring with nuts, like those for angle stops

@fwingebritson 2 года назад

I have been warned by inspectors that by using those things puts people into a gray area. That is, codes have yet to address or catch up the the "new practices," so when they do there could be issues of code violations that may not be grandfathered in, especially when trying to sell the building.

@yixnorb5971 Год назад

I have used Shark Bite but only on exposed pipe, so that if it ever leaks you can see it.

@LaineyBug2020 Год назад

I wonder if the sharkbites could be used to build a lightweight frame for a hand cart that could be converted to a different figuration like a cot....I guess it would depend on the tensile strength of the pipes for how much it could hold...

@peanut0brain Год назад

Sharkbites are so expensive. Almost $9 for a straight coupler. Its been 4yrs now i have no issues with any of my shark bite plumbing!

@chuckmaddison2924 2 года назад

Great for those that can't solder. Bad for the home owner when the seal fails.

@michaelkastenberg6462 Год назад

I am a plumber in germany and we are using press fittings for more than 25 years now. There are absolut no problems. Water, Gas, Heating. I cant believe that there modern countries where the plumbers still solder their pipes 😳

@SilverCymbal Год назад

Thank you for sharing this. This is just like Wagos here. When I did my first video 2 years ago people thought I was insane, now they are finally catching on, despite the fact you guys have been standardized on them for I think 40 years?

@michaelkastenberg6462 Год назад

@@SilverCymbal Thats possible. I know and use Wagos since i started my worklife 25 years ago.

@techman9894 8 месяцев назад

As with all these modern methods of joining pipework that requires very little skill, u need to look at how long the manufactuers will warrenty the joint for. Bearing in mind that is a pipe length and joint that is left alone and not messed about with or put under any stress or strain over the years. Remember the space shuttle that exploded killing everyone on board because of a faulty 'O' ring😮

@netimage10s 6 месяцев назад

How long will it take for the O-rings to dry out and deteriorate versus how long with solder take to oxidize and deteriorate?

@GeneralChangFromDanang Год назад

I would take this over a normal compression fitting, but prefer solder when going copper to copper.

@abbswinston4258 2 месяца назад

Solder all the way. In emergencies, I rather use shark bites as I have many times before mastering soldering. The pro-press fitting failed many times for me. Shark bite on the other hand never did but it makes the pipes it’s connected to wobbly.

@PaulLadendorf 2 года назад

So because the sharkbite fittings in your house don't leak, that means that sharkbite fittings don't leak? Great logic there.

@SilverCymbal 2 года назад

And the fact Home Depot has an entire aisle dedicated to them doesn't hurt for assurance either.

@patterdalezipsuzilil Год назад

I allways use yorkshire fitting when soldering worth the little bit extra

@hotrodford4274 Год назад

FANTASTIC ! THANK YOU

@draconicproductionsinactiv5717 2 года назад

Some people that says no to sharkbites: Propress is way better People that says no to sharkbites and propress and non-copper pipes: Time to do soldering, AHHHHH, FIRE, CALLS EMERGENCY

@LawpickingLocksmith Год назад

All nice but if you live in an AH country like Australia where you need a licensed electrician to change a light bulb you also need to overpay huge for every tap washer attended.

@stewarttodd4565 11 месяцев назад

I’ve had pro-press and shark bites leak

@pedromoreschi 4 дня назад

The first sleeve joint, in Brazil we have something similiar for PVC tubes and we call "sliding sleeve". There is a reason to call it "SLIDING sleeve". I wouldn't trust any copper joint using the same system.

@MickC2167 Год назад

In that first valve replacement, how do you get the tool in behind the other pipes to press the top connector?

@LauraKent-q3p 6 месяцев назад

Shark Bite and Gator Bite works !!

@reevaimpact Год назад

This is super cool

@crashthecat Год назад

Come back in 5-10 years when the things all need replacing. Presoldered fittings are as easy as it gets. If the area has combustible material simply utilize heat mats

@darrelschulte6214 8 месяцев назад

Thank you ‼️

@carlosvela1983 2 года назад

very good video

@CHANHVO-hd7pk 5 месяцев назад

Thanks to intro many ideas

@ecoidea100 2 года назад

It seems compression fittings are unknown to the author. Metal to metal, with a metal ferrule, sealed by metal deformation.

@harrycroker7077 Год назад

I had bathroom renovation work done a couple of years ago. The plumber used propress. The result is loud pipes with the sound of water rushing any time the water is turned on in the renovated areas. It’s very, very disappointing.

@fasteddie7997 2 года назад

When it comes to copper sweat the fittings , tried and proven

@johnmilner7603 Год назад

LMFAO, now you need a tool, more parts and the rubber O ring isn’t friendly. 😂

@patterdalezipsuzilil 2 года назад

I love soldering

@techkingdata9338 2 года назад

There's always a quick fix for a future leak

@flesz_ 7 месяцев назад

I'm not a plumber but working under sink in confined spaces in a weird position drives me mad lol

@Spurioushamster 7 месяцев назад

I replumbed my entire house in hard copper, soldering every joint. I just don't trust any fittings that contain plastic or rubber.

@johni6138 2 года назад

sharkbite expensive but they work

@patterdalezipsuzilil 7 месяцев назад

Old ways are the best

@ianlaker6980 Год назад

The NASA shuttle had an O ring🤣

@SilverCymbal Год назад

That's true but check out the test I did after this video, its insane! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QtysRkM1gEI.html

@pimpshyt101 2 года назад

I got the propress it's cost 7k milwaukee m18 I have the manual cause I was being cheap at the time... nothing better than olf fashion torch

@Moosbuckels_sexy_brother 7 месяцев назад

those shark bites are used in pressure tubes since decades.... no problem ever and they hold waaaaaay more preassure than this little water...

@romeo1410 3 года назад

Fittings are stupid expensive though. $7-25 per fitting depending on part.

@Simon-747 3 года назад

The installation gets cheaper due to timed saved, this has been going on I Sweden and other northern countries for more than 20 years

@gpethst24 3 года назад

But if any numpty can do it without setting the house on fire, or getting a plumber in, surely it's money well spent...

@brokeandtired 3 года назад

Cheaper than a flooded house and a non plumber can fix it.

@diefordethklok3711 3 года назад

I was thinking that too. And the initial cost of the tool is astronomical for the amount of times you will use it. Easier to do it the old school way

@Michelsen3K 3 года назад

@@Simon-747 i began to press fittings 15 years ago and stopped with open fire then. That's my daily work. We only work like this. Time is money

@the_slow_sti 2 года назад

In my experience plumbing, I've been called many times to repair a leak to find a failed shark bite. Rubber degrades over time, but there are plenty of examples of 100+ year old soldered copper pipes still holding strong. There's almost always a way to mitigate the heat from a torch in tight spaces to allow a proper solder joint, and it should almost always be prefered when it comes to plumbing in my opinion.

@garystinnett8321 2 года назад

Not to mention freezing pipes. Copper swells before it fails. If that happens with a shark bite, toast.

@ottokriete1153 2 года назад

I would also add that Sharkbites are made from brass. Probably not a big problem in urban areas, but if you're on well water, corrosive minerals and acid can degrade that brass over time, and cause a lot of damage that won't occur with copper. Don't ask me how I found this out......

@Tagerrun 2 года назад

Can’t forget the tool he was using is way more expensive than any one time home repair calls for.

@SilverCymbal 2 года назад

@@ottokriete1153 If your brass is corroding from well water, your copper will too. If anything that brass is about 20x thicker than copper pipe and low PH is something that needs t be taken care of for any metallic plumbing

@toddmichon 2 года назад

Maybe you are one of the few that would come over for a very small job like adding a small section of pipe to an outside faucet. I've seen many times people can't get a person in the trades to even call them back for a 15 minute job. So, do you or others blame people for using a shark bite solution? I see many pros on these types of videos commenting about how something like this is such false info though.

@Ram-re5em 3 года назад

I’ll stay with the torch and soldering it’s really easy to do and it’s cheap

@STVGozando 3 года назад

i'd say that thingy called sharkbites looked way easier and cheaper, even better if it can last a long ass time. auto win/win right there.

@allanmanley6340 3 года назад

I agree Ram 4570. A good solder job will almost last forever.

@dougk.5501 3 года назад

@@STVGozando shark bites are NOT cheap!!! They cost way way way more than a solder fitting!!!! They also can fail

@SerenitynPeace 3 года назад

Exactly friend! Smart!

@Apocalypse_Cow 3 года назад

@@dellawrence4323 EXACTLY! I am so glad that I will never have to depend upon a young plumber. If I had to, I would never even give him my address if he answered "yes" to my question, "do you use those gimmicky expensive joints?".

@kennethvoller278 2 года назад

After 11 years maintaining a 29 room motel and battling MANY leaks, I repaired every leak and remodel with sharkbite and never not one problem

@DavidBasara-p8s 6 месяцев назад

You obviously live in a place that never freezes

@kennethvoller278 6 месяцев назад

@@DavidBasara-p8s PWAHAHAHAHA Ya, northern Idaho never freezes?!?!?!

@Kullain 4 месяца назад

@@kennethvoller278 LOL!

@oguzoguz4686 2 месяца назад

Shark bite all the way

@testofeagle 2 месяца назад

@@DavidBasara-p8syou obviously got a big L bruv

@neitherleftorrightjustcomm839 3 года назад

It’s a good thing rubber o rings never deteriorate LOL I Can see a lot of leaks coming in 10-20 years

@oggearhound2242 3 года назад

just remove and pop on another shark-bite.. easy peasy

@johnsohn653 3 года назад

Most people don't stay in their homes that long so it's not really their problem if it leaks down the road.

@tylerjantz882 3 года назад

The water will most likely never touch the o-ring. The copper to copper seal it creates can hold water alone

@chaos.corner 3 года назад

@@tylerjantz882 That I'd like to see. Should be easy enough to remove the o-rings and show it. The problem is, any movement can break the seal. The rubber of the o-rings will help with that for a while but rubber and plastics get hard and brittle over time.

@tylerjantz882 3 года назад

@@chaos.corner the manufactures test these fittings at 200 psi with no o-ring

@jason-ge5nr 3 года назад

sweating a fitting isnt a real big deal.

@user-vp1sc7tt4m 3 года назад

yup

@randomexcessmemories4452 2 года назад

I'm no expert plumber, nor am I claiming to know more than them, but I think a lot of people are missing the point of this video. He is not saying these will or should replace professionally soldered pipe connections. These are for homeowners and quick DIY fixes to plumbing problems or for other things like that. Most regular people are not going to be able to go out, buy a torch, buy flux, buy solder, clean the pipe, and properly solder the pipe without any problems when they can get a quick fitting that simply snaps on. Solder is of course the best option, but for the average user it isn't feasible in the short term. That is what this video is meant to show. But what do I know.

@tkorocky 3 месяца назад

But you have to buy that huge tool which is $150. Everything you mention needing to buy for soldering is like $50. So not for pros and not for amateurs.

@IAmTheGlovenor 3 месяца назад

@@tkorocky It's almost like you didn't pay attention to the video 🤦‍♂️

@drumtwo4seven Месяц назад

$20 for entire soldering kit at home Depot... Propane torch, solder flux etc. You don't need map gas

@LegitJerome Месяц назад

@@tkorockyno you don’t, all the big box store rent them for $10- $15 a day.

@tkorocky Месяц назад

@@LegitJerome Great, but who wants to go out and rent a bunch of stuff to fix a leak? Soldering is really easy and you can buy everything you need, good for years, ready to go, for under $50.

@kenbakker3241 3 года назад

Personally I would be skeptical about O-Ring sealed copper in the construction of a building. Soldered copper connections have been proven to basically be good for the life of the building but I know from experience that O-Rings often harden or crack over extended periods of time.

@waltewhitesPhD 2 года назад

Its a mitigation tactic, not intended for every day operational use. Just sayin.

@SSintox 2 года назад

Soldering is great but you have to be sure that the house doesn't have a gas water boiler or gas heater. A big KABOOM and you flight across the window is not worth it. PEX, or ProPress (press-fit), or flare fit (like the gasoline lines under the cars).

@Sean2002FU 2 года назад

@@SSintox that's nonesence!! I've done miles of copper pipe in basements that have NG furnaces and boilers.....Common sense applies here, if you go into a basement and smell gass, obviously your not firing up your torch!!! Hello!!!!

@Rig0r_M0rtis 2 года назад

I've soldered my friend's whole top floor and we did it for the first time in our life. As it is with many jobs, it's not hard you just have to be dligent.

@NEOgeek402 2 года назад

this guy sucks shark bites are SUPER bad. They leak very offten.

@GeoFry3 3 года назад

Propress is pretty cool, but unless you have deep pockets or a daily need it's too expensive.

@SerenitynPeace 3 года назад

Stick to solding. It works if done right and won't burn ur house down!

@ScorpioTear 3 года назад

It's like you didn't watch the video at all

@GeoFry3 3 года назад

@@ScorpioTear what some one made a comment before they got more than 5 minutes into the video?! That never happens........ You have too much free time.

@jackmclane1826 3 года назад

All leaks that I have seen in the last years happened with the various solderless connections. Not one on a soldered connection. Solderless is just fast and cheap for the contractor. Reasons for the leaks were various. If you rely on a rubber seal, your connection will eventually leak. Sooner or later! Rubber gets brittle over time and is easily damaged by wrong handling and some tiny carelessness by the tradesmen, who make their money by being fast. A tiny damage on the o ring that you won't notice - a small chip from the reamer or an incomplete deburring = leak. And even if everything is done perfectly, you won't have the longevity of a proper soldered connection, because you rely on a rubber ring with plasticizers...

@ThougH-H600 3 года назад

Well said.

@losferwords100 3 года назад

It's not cheaper, propress fittings cost like 5x as much as regular soldered fittings. And it's not just a regular rubber seal like you see in your garden hoses in there. If it were it wouldn't cost 5x as much as regular fittings now would it? It's a specially engineered rubber seal with a rating of 50 years. Propress has been around since the 90's and I have yet to see one of these seals fail on its own. The few propress failures I have seen were due to improper installation which is the real problem with these. It's easy so everybody thinks they can do it but yet they still manage to screw it up and then people like you blame it on the product when it's not. It's user error. No different than a poorly soldered joint leaking prematurely and since most new guys today can't solder to save their lives, propress is probably the better bet.

@jackmclane1826 3 года назад

@@losferwords100 Overall they are cheaper, and this is why it's done. Part cost is higher, but a plumber can crimp many times the fittings per hour than he could solder. What is a contractor per hour at your place? These prices are ridiculous! In my job I have a leak about once a year. Half of the joints are soldered joints, the other half are press fittings of various types. I've been here for 6 years now and only press fits ever leaked. I can just describe my sentiment like this. I agree, it is probably possible to do it better. But as a matter of fact here: Press fittings leak at least 6 times more often. I solder all my connections myself. Learned it from my dad when we were building our home back then, and it's not rocket science.

@gertscheper9653 3 года назад

@@jackmclane1826 crap, nothing more nothing less.

@ericgrady1797 3 года назад

I agree all quick connections suck even worse in colder climates the plastic n the shark bites freeze then crack then fail I’d only recommend quick connections under sinks n a control climate temperatures

@jankington216 2 года назад

Perfect for a plumber who's trying to get out the door to meet their mistress at applebee's

@xballonshopx 3 года назад

The whole time I am thinking replacing with pex at the end of the day is still easier, cheap materials and affordable tools... But still a very interesting video!

@elmono3939 Год назад

True statement about Shark Bite fittings. Critics of Shark Bite fittings don't realize push-in fittings have been around and in use since early 1970's - with great success. We have been working with Shark Bite type fittings on emergency leaks for 22 years - with 100% success.

@drew651 7 месяцев назад

I agree in an emergency situation. An after hours call on a busy night or something. But we would always go back and change it out with a soldered/brazed repair.

@Maxpower-fv5bb 3 месяца назад

A lot of times unsatisfied customers are so pissed off at the contractor they don't dare call them back or even try to get in an argument with them they just call someone else and get it fixed correctly. That's probably where you're getting your 100% success rate from.

@joesmith9053 Месяц назад

@@Maxpower-fv5bb yea ok

@cachamp203 3 года назад

Some plumbing supply stores allow you to rent propress tools as well (don’t have to be a plumber). I rented a Milwaukee M18 press tool to replace my well pressure tank and it only cost me $50. They charge your card the price of the tool though ($3500) and when you return the tool they refund all but $50. Great option for DIYers.

@SilverCymbal 3 года назад

That is awesome, the electric is definitely very nice to use especially if you have a lot of work to do. I keep waiting to see a Ryobi or someone come out with a tool for $400 someday maybe

@cachamp203 3 года назад

@@SilverCymbal I’m hoping the price will go down over time. I debated buying the Ridgid like you had in your video but just couldn’t bring myself to justify the cost. I rented mine on a Friday and got to keep it over the weekend for the same price. Used it to replace some 8 year old shark bite valves since I had it as well. Great video!

@covishen 3 года назад

Yeah...umm.. charge 3500 to my card and it'll reject it.

@jacobuszwanenburg1629 9 месяцев назад

I’d rather solder than use that ugly crimp thing

@zerodegrees8 3 года назад

Right, cause who wants to change all their fittings in 20 years when the o rings decay

@wrong2h8 3 года назад

My dad installed sharkbites in his house more than 15 years ago I believe. And he has NEVER had a problem.

@paulofduty9790 3 года назад

Love sharkbites

@johnmendoza6421 3 года назад

Shark 🦈 bite are great 👍🏽

@s_p7231 3 года назад

No connection with Sharkbites. They are the real deal.

@mrtopcat2 3 года назад

15 years is not a time frame one would expect a problem. So 15 years is by far not representative. Depending on the layout, changing pipes can be a gigantic undertaking. Using a product, that makes the installer happy and thereby saving money on installation may work out to be a very expensive (and if you are a tree hugger, that translates to carbon intensive) mistake. So make sure you do your research and don't rely on information that is spread by industry lobbyist!

@wrong2h8 3 года назад

@@mrtopcat2 I just judge it solely by the fact that most companies nowadays are not only LLC companies which are a crock of unlawful shit, but the fact that most of any companies products have a ONE YEAR WARRANTY. So! Knowing that, anything that ladt LONGER than a year makes it feel like it was an okay purchase. So considering they lasted for 15+ years is quite the warranty shock.