NEVER Weed AGAIN?? Lesson Learned about GROUND COVER Fabric

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We are taking up the ground cover to store for the winter. Danny tells about the benefits and issues with ground cover and the staples.
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@DeepSouthHomestead 3 года назад

GALVANIZED 6 in. Staples amzn.to/2GSduxl Ground Cover Dewitt from www.growerssolution.com

@saddleridge4364 3 года назад

I can't afford to buy fabric, I use cardboard boxes opened out flat for walkways and between rows. You can staple them down just like anything else. It last all through the season , rain and shine, and weeds don't send roots into it like they do with fabric. I just pull it up, save the staples and throw it in the firepit at the end of the season. I order enough 40 lb bags of dog food from Amazon over the winter to get enough fresh cardboard for the next season. Thanks for the video , Danny, you always go through things step by step and it's all from experience.

@judyabernathy80 3 года назад

That’s the way Living Traditions Homestead sews their seeds....makes round holes in the ground cover. It’s changed my life in my small container gardening area, as well. ❣️♥️❣️

@classicrocklover5615 3 года назад

Mother nature abhors a void, vacant soil. This year's garden was an experiment. I've decided I will double the size next year and start my roadside stand . My garden was good for weeds except for the last month, when it was overtaken with ground cover type weeds. Thank you for reviewing and introducing Garden Solutions. I will be placing my order soon. My eyes are getting on me fast, so here's my tip: before I use anything in the grass or ground, I paint the item with florescent orange spray paint, good quality paint. Wood, metal, etc - the color contrast pops right out to me and I can find it easily.

@lowriedeeharrison4168 3 года назад

I switched to DeWitt this year for my garden. Its half Raised Beds and Half traditional. I put it on after amending soil and it is as you say... a life changer. Very few weeds, and exceptional plant growth. I also use the drip tape watering. I am elderly and what a difference it makes.

@nellanddudley 3 года назад

I use ground cover and learned the lesson about staples the hard way. Galvanized all the way now. Great advice!

@jeremybyington 3 года назад

I couldn’t get a tiller to my garden due to the pandemic so I smothered out the rows with landscape cloth and a bunch of rocks to weigh it all down and then I cut holes down the center to plant my seedlings. A cold snap that got down to 31F killed nearly my entire row of squash so I immediately sowed seeds in the empty holes. A couple weeks later when they were seedlings, half of them were wilting and my theory was the black landscape cloth around them was absorbing too much heat so I mounded a small amount of dirt around each seedling and some of them rebounded and the ones that died I just resowed and they all did well. I learned a lot from that experience and the result was that my squash production was staggered quite nicely. I may just do it on purpose next year.

@rhodaneader9008 3 года назад

We moved to TN last October from AZ. I want to thank you for your great southern gardening tips, as it is very different gardening here.

@joeyhardin1288 3 года назад

I have a 300 foot roll ready to go under my greenhouse... when it gets here. "We will not falter - We will not fail." Thanks for the video. God Bless Stay Safe

@TheSHOP411 3 года назад

When those weeds grow on top, they are like weed velcro to the ground and its almost impossible to pull them out of the ground cover without tearing it up. Pull them sucker up asap or they will cause big problems.

@marilynmcclintock2974 3 года назад

I use cardboard and wood chips. Grandma Sue in central Indiana and Izzi Too

@marycampbell4160 3 года назад

Mr. Danny I am glad you are feeling better and always thanks for ground cover tips just getting ready to make purchases.

@ladycat661 3 года назад

Been using the ground cover for two years and I love it and will use it every year .Thank for sharing God Bless

@lisascott9670 3 года назад

That was wonderful information Mr. Danny. I was contemplating row covers for the next season and as I am in the north I think that will be quite necessary with the cooler temperatures coming. Thank you

@sherrytucker7102 3 года назад

I ran into the staple issue myself...bought the 1st box and they're still rust-free, but I assumed (and you know what they say about assume!) the 2nd box I bought would be the same even though they were a diff brand...they were not. As for weeds growing through the GC from the top, I use a push broom about once every 7 - 10 days or so (if needed). It may seem like a lot of work, but it's FAR less than weeding!

@renajones4617 3 года назад

Excellent advice! Thanks Danny! I went with cardboard and straw this year but I am purchasing ground cover and staples for my expanding garden for next year.

@billhunt892 3 года назад

Morning Y'all , this is something we've been looking at, now we're sure , Thank You Danny!

@FlavorsandTextures 3 года назад

That is very honest review, thanks.

@lesphilaja5722 3 года назад

I garden on the edge of zone 3 & 4. Gardening is always a challenge with Lake Superior being so close by. This year I had 90 days between the last Spring frost & the 1st Fall frost. This ia my 3rd year using woven plastic. Its fantastic! I tried sweet potatoes slips under plastic, they produced several fist sized potatoes. My garden is 30 X 40 and I pull up the plastic every spring, till the soil and reposition the plastic to rotate my crops. My 1st box of 1,000 stapes were galvanized, so I never had he rust issue. Very informative vid.

@sixfigurebookkeeper7588 Год назад

Danny thank you for this detailed and visual demonstration. This is very helpful!

@robinsong7298 3 года назад

Danny good to see you up and around praying for you brother. Great info on the Staples cuz they Did the same here but didn't know any different ones were out there. God bless Shalom

@casellafink 3 года назад

Thanks for the advice, Danny.

@BirdLadySpeaks 3 года назад

Fellow Georgian and new subscriber here!!!! I found you when looking for tips to grow turnips. I’ve always weeded by hand and hoe. This is my first year using fabric. I’ve never had problems with weeds like I had this year. I messed up and got those staples that rust. I have the galvanized now. Actually purchased them because they were out of the vigro brand. Thanks for sharing this info. Thanks for the link and helping us get 10% off. I’m about visit then know. God bless!!!!

@nomadclan3604 2 года назад

Just received my 300' roll for this yrs garden, very timely, thank you!

@rough-hewnhomestead5737 3 года назад

We used ground cover for the first time this summer and it was awesome! Saved us a ton of work in weeding and such and locked the moisture in for weeks. Our cover came with some staples (not galvanized) and we bought extra (also not galvanized)....lesson learned as they did corrode and were a bit hard to remove. I agree about the overlap--it pays to go more than an inch so weeds don't creep up between the cracks. Great video. God bless!

@GrowFamilyNetwork 3 года назад

I've been using mine all wrong I'm super thankful for this share...was racking my brain about cutting holes in my fabric

@pokeyjo61 3 года назад

Ground cover has been a game changer for me. My son works in landscaping and warned me to keep the dirt off the top of the plastic to prolong it's life. It has saved me so many hours of weeding. I have to say, I'm glad I don't live in the deep south. You all seem to have a lot of bugs and moisture problems. Sandy soil works nice but it is hard to keep watered. My Heavenly Father sure did bless my harvest this year.

@RockyCreekHomestead 3 года назад

We used the growers solution weed fabric this year. It certainly has its pros and cons. I feel the pros outweighed it though for us and we plan to use again next year. It’s amazing how much weeds can find any little nook and cranny to grow through.

@familyboccassini4695 Год назад

Thank you first time using it this year thank you for the tips :)

@katsfarm2062 3 года назад

Great video good information I'll be putting this to use.

@barrypetejr5655 3 года назад

All my years of gardening and I have not tried it....but I need too.....i have access to large amounts of leaves and often mulch with them with great success. Because of the drought last summer the only reason we ended up with a decent garden season was because the leaves held the moisture in.....and virtually no weeds. Definitely going to try some ground cover next season.😊

@hollyhock3945 3 года назад

Kevin at Living Traditions mentioned to keep the rusted ones because they seem to "grip" better. Must be the difference in soil.

@joydavis4087 Год назад

Thanks for this vid. I really appreciate it. This helps a lot.

@grsartofworship4352 3 года назад

We just love your presentations.

@MakkIsLooking 3 года назад

I like using that ground cover. Good info on staples & all.

@imaspacewoman 2 года назад

Boy a good lesson. Heads up last year the staples I bought from Amazon said galvanized but rusted like hell, when I went to pull them up they were hard and both tines VERY rusted. I bought the same gauge galvanized staples this year which said made in the USA , same price about, and the difference is the thickness and feel so far. I feel sure the ones I have this year are excelllent.

@jennifersneegas8352 3 года назад

I might also add that fabric mulch helps keep th moisture in the soil as well as suppress weeds.

@SherrysCraftinggarden 3 года назад

Thank you Danny for this I sure no what to now Thank you so much.

@kinflorida579 3 года назад

Hope you're feeling better.. God bless 🙏 ❤

@jillianeclark4308 3 года назад

I use DeWitt for my garden. When I pull the staples I throw them in a bucket filled with white vinegar. After about a week I take them out rinse them in clear water and dry them. No more rust and they are ready for next year. Ants are a problem but I use diatomaceous earth and that seems to help. My garden is only 50×120 ft and I hope to enlarge it next year since it was so much easier to care for it now that I am using weed cloth.

@DragonflyArtz1 3 года назад

When I lived in Florida I used instant mashed potato flakes to kill off Fire Ants. Just sprinkle when it's not going to rain. Or put some nail holes in the metal lid of a jar (to let the Ants in) put some instant mashed potatoes and lay the little jars on their side, anywhere you need them.

@HeatherRose_ 3 года назад

How does the mashed potatoes kill them? Would it work for black ants?

@DragonflyArtz1 3 года назад

@@HeatherRose_ Dry flakes. They eat them then the flakes expand. I have only ever tried it with the stinging Fire Ants in Florida. As far as I know Black Ants don't bite/ sting. But you can try it.

@HeatherRose_ 3 года назад

@@DragonflyArtz1 thank you so much. I have an ant hill that's 10 feet across and it's making the back yard unusable. I don't want to use chemicals because I have grandchildren.

@DragonflyArtz1 3 года назад

@@HeatherRose_ You are welcome. I hope it works.

@DeepSouthHomestead 3 года назад

It's worth a try.

@marieboser4489 3 года назад

Thanks for the video it’s very informative!

@Psimon83 3 года назад

Our main takeaway from using ground cover is don't leave a gap. We did for sunflowers and bush peas and regretted it because of grass and weeds. Also to remove crops you basically have to cut the stalk close to the ground , pull fabric then pull root balls. But the health of our plants and ease of tending made it more than worth it up here in Jones county MS

@stacierichardson4475 3 года назад

Thanks!👍😁

@SteadfastTrailFarm 3 года назад

Yes!!! I use Sunbelt great stuff!! 🙌

@emmadalrymple4102 3 года назад

Good to know stuff! Even the tip about the diesel fuel! And I also appreciate the fact about the fire ants too. Thank you for sharing!

@dawnwilkinson3500 3 года назад

Hi Danny and Wanda we just love your presentations! God Bless.+

@Vector_Ze 2 года назад

7:03 The one on the left looks like mine after a year. I know better now, thanks.

@rthepunk 3 года назад

Learned a lot Thanks

@dorothyrhodes4657 3 года назад

Thank you for your video

@angiebailey9829 3 года назад

How did you get rid of the fire ants. Thanks for the video!

@FlutyLickHomestead 3 года назад

Hoping to try some of that next year! Hard to push staples in the ground around here because of all the rocks

@brendaraines9088 3 года назад

I use common brick/block about every 10ft to hold mine down. Sometimes I use sand bags. IMO staples are a pain. Plus they put unnecessary holes in the fabric. I’ve been using Dewitt ground fabric for over 20 years.

@troydunn6228 2 года назад

Have you ever studied the Jadam or Korean Natural Farming? He uses the fabric also.

@SandysAdventures 3 года назад

I didn't realize there was a galvanized staple. Every big box store that I see them in, doesn't have the galvanized near their garden center.

@dejayblair7571 3 года назад

Mr. Danny check with Puckett Rents in Biloxi or Hattiesburg and the same product is a little cheaper, it’s called silt fencing as your used to construction terms. I priced it this passed spring to compare. Love y’all from Magee, MS

@DeepSouthHomestead 3 года назад

I'm very familiar with silt screen. This is tighter woven than it is.

@julieb9215 3 года назад

I’m in southern Georgia & used to work for a company that made ground cover, weed screen, ag curtain, poly feed bags etc. Some folks go to Home Depot or Lowe’s & buy landscape fabrics & end up badly disappointed. Most sold there won’t be good quality products. I wonder if you could set up a low voltage electrolysis to help clean those rusty staples? Might be way easier than knocking the rust off by hand.

@barbaranelson5177 3 года назад

I live my ground cover

@grsartofworship4352 3 года назад

Nice ending.

@soal3415 3 года назад

I'm in Michigan an the weeds are bad. My neighbor uses a bill board tarp. Way thicker than plastic. He layer it out and with a box cutter knife cut an X every where he wants a plant. No weeds anywhere. He waters it normaly. He can get huge nice plants ... that tarp is usually black and it warms the ground nicely. That's how I'd go if I was doing a garden.

@mithall4198 3 года назад

You definitely want to spend the money for good cover. We went with the cheap stuff and it disintegrated about half way through the season.

@johnhinson9866 3 года назад

What did you use to kill your fire ants?

@steffaniewalz8444 3 года назад

This is so timely for us. We are getting ready to use it in the tunnel ( when it gets here) and around our roses and such in the front yard. The nails was good to know about. I wonder if some of your salt water has something to do with it rusting? I know when we lived in Corpus, everything rusted. Thank you so much for doing this video.. this was excellent information.

@jeanchittum1677 3 года назад

I live in Houston, mine rusted badly

@DeepSouthHomestead 3 года назад

We live to far inland to have a salt issue. It's acidic soil.

@JT-Fly-JT 3 года назад

Thank You Danny & Wanda for the ground cover tips! Just planted a couple of Blueberry and Blackberry plants caged for protection. Also to help the soil and wildlife I planted some turnips for the fall. (MO630MSL)

@chaunceypullman3380 3 года назад

If you keep a clean, neat and tidy garden. You will never have that. I am same age as you 2 are. Only difference is I was born with a messed up knee joint and leg. Makes kneeling and bending a chore. Last thing I do is wash off the weed fabric. Doest care what. I too live in the deep South. Louisiana is my home town. I find time to check and tend my garden every other day. You, the gardener is the one who has to make time. I use garden spikes I made myself. I put my fabric down the second after I finished making the beds.

@sameoldmphymel 3 года назад

Perfect timing Danny I've been wanting to get some of that stuff for quite a while now I've been using that cheap stuff that Preen makes and it falls apart

@DeepSouthHomestead 3 года назад

I tried that stuff too not the best choice.

@larryatwell9734 3 года назад

We allways made our own ...

@deborahandrews9728 3 года назад

I wonder if there were galvanized pins for these. And I've never thought about those lines in the ground cover. Thanks for that. Also, I've had great luck removing rust with a vinegar soak. I'll do that with my cheapie rust covered pins. God bless y'all and thanks for sharing..

@bryanst.martin7134 3 года назад

You can spray coat the cleaned staples with a Zinc or Galvanizing spray. Available from hardware and home improvement stores.

@tabithawarren8249 3 года назад

Any ideas on preventing erosion in clay area under this fabric, on slopes?

@deborahwagner9033 3 года назад

nice

@charmainemontgomery582 3 года назад

I had the rusty staples & fought with them for a few years. They went to the trash 😂

@ConfedVet 2 года назад

Instead of using weed fabric, could you use tarps, like the cheap ones at Harbor Freight?

@Raynestorm1968 Год назад

Couple questions. #1 How many years do you leave the ground cover before you pull it all up to till again? Or do you till. #2 How would you go about planting seeds that need to be very close together? Like peas, carrots, dill, etc? I think that too many videos and web pages promote this as "weed free" that people get the false idea that it's 100% weed free. No matter what you do, weeds will always find a way to grow, that's why they can't be completely eradicated. But using the woven ground cover will definitely "reduce" the amount of weeds you have to pull out of your garden during a growing period. Makes life a lot easier. It may be worth mentioning that a weed barrier fabric needs to be good quality. Sorry people, but the stuff from the dollar stores isn't going to work at all. It will let weeds thru as much as not having it at all. And it deteriorates quick. The good quality woven ground cover will last for years if you take care of it. Thanks for the video!

@michaelanderson5359 2 года назад

Will this material stop nutgrass?

@trevorh2436 3 года назад

The u pick it uses it but don’t they mound their rows

@johniac7078 3 года назад

I used that product this year for the first time. I have mixed feeling about it. One thing is that is was a perfect place for mice to make nests. They caused a lot of crop damage. Lots of snakes too, I guess they came in to eat the mice. Did you guys have a problem with mice?

@DeepSouthHomestead 3 года назад

No mice trouble yet.

@GinaSiska 3 года назад

Hi Danny, I had a sweet potato question: I planted 3 slips (purple sweet potatoes)in a very large container in May after soil temps maintained 50 deg at night...I just harvested yesterday and was extremely disappointed to discover no sweet potatoes except some very tiny tubers towards the bottom of the container. It was not root bound at all and the container was quite large...in direct afternoon sun. The vines grew all over as well.

@DeepSouthHomestead 3 года назад

In a cooler climate you need to grow a short vining variety that grows in a bunch like beauregard.

@GinaSiska 3 года назад

@@DeepSouthHomestead : ok, thank you so much!!

@melisagenell6944 3 года назад

My Beauregard goes crazy vining all over the place in SC

@JipseeGirl 2 года назад

how did you get rid of the ants?

@seekerofAdventure 3 года назад

Growers solutions has 2 types of woven weed cover. Which one did y’all get? The Dewitt ultra web 3000, or the polypropylene. The Dewitt is cheaper but I don’t know the difference.

@DeepSouthHomestead 3 года назад

The Dewitt ultra web.

@jeanchittum1677 3 года назад

How do you get rid of the fire ants, without using poison's , I don't want to put ant killer in my soil...have tried the vinegar...doesn't work , any ideas?

@DeepSouthHomestead 3 года назад

I drive a hole about two ft deep and pour 1\2 cup of gas in and cover the hole fast and the fumes kill the ant's. Only thing I've found that works and dosent do long term damage.

@connieblasingame7996 3 года назад

A leaf blower would make it easier..a couple of minutes doing that...would save you bending down to pull any weeds....In my late 70's and will do anything to keep from bending so much...just blow that sand off in a couple of minutes....of course you and Wanda are just a couple of "spring chickens"....Larry @ Scoot's Organic

@DeepSouthHomestead 3 года назад

We have videos of me using a leaf blower to clean it off.

@larrymoore6640 3 года назад

This I experimented with ground cover but never though about weeds roots growing through the top. Danny you mentions that you plant using the Hoss seeder do you pull back the weed cover or is it put down after??

@DeepSouthHomestead 3 года назад

I plant between the fabrics.

@larrymoore6640 3 года назад

@@DeepSouthHomestead Thanks Danny

@marygray4215 3 года назад

Glad you feeling better Danny Your voice sound much stronger blessing Danny my Gardner used frabic and mulch lots two years ago But even last year grass has about covered my fruit trees Would it be swat to use your system in n around my trees to stop grass I might have to measure again before I order Danny I know you love to read here is few books u might like to read 1. The Apocrypha Catholic Church church removed but if you buy king James 1611 bible it’s in the middle The Catholic still has it in the middle of their bible 2.The Book of Lamech of Cain By Demmon Only 10 chapels good read 3. The Lost Book of King of OG By Demmon I have not gotton this one yet but on my list to order The Catholic Church just release them I just got three more but couldn’t find them to order but will continue to order The Apocrypha fill in so much I finish it this pass Saturday The one with Esdras was maganifient thrilling he talk with Most Hight Thru out first and second I want tell the ending I beleive you would enjoy this book Again glad you feeling better Tell Wanda hello y’all stay blessed Shalome

@DeepSouthHomestead 3 года назад

I own the apocrypha.

@jb4496 3 года назад

Danny we are looking to move from Virginia to central Florida not 20 miles from the gulf coast. Do you think the black ground cover would dry my raised bed . I was there when we close on the house and the yard is so much sand.

@lancewatford4516 3 года назад

I'm in east central florida and I don't use any cover on my raised beds. I just use a stirrup hoe for the weeds. It takes a grand total of about 10 minutes a week to keep the weeds down

@DeepSouthHomestead 3 года назад

My experience is the ground stays moisture than not using it.

@trevapowell9193 3 года назад

Did you get your ground cover from a co-op store what do I ask for exactly

@DeepSouthHomestead 3 года назад

www.growerssolution.com fabric ground cover or weed barrier

@sheriross3610 3 года назад

How do you deal with the fire ants?

@cindybonem494 3 года назад

I wonder if a leaf blower would work to keep the ground cover free of Debris?

@DeepSouthHomestead 3 года назад

Yes we have videos showing us using one.

@cindybonem494 3 года назад

Deep South Homestead that’s great, I wondered if it would be to hard of a wind blowing on them.

@JonParkerSound 2 года назад

how do you treat the fire ants with this type of gardening? do they ever come out from under the fabric and attack just from walking over them or do they keep to themselves until you lift up the fabric? I really want to start gardening with this method, but it's worrisome to think about fire any tunnels being right under foot everywhere I go. Little Rock, AR.

@bronzefox9035 2 года назад

I put down an insect granule that kills ants, grubs, etc. It is also safe for fruit and veg plants. I raked it through the dirt then put the woven weave fabric over it. I also put some of those outdoors ant traps at the corners of the garden.

@dianawilliams-coe7747 3 года назад

Do you leave the fabric down or do you take it up every season...

@DeepSouthHomestead 3 года назад

It depends some times I leave it and use the broad fork to loosen the soil between row cover's.

@pbudinsky1 3 года назад

How did you get rid of your fire ants?

@carriem7832 3 года назад

Knowing Danny he bought him a pet ant eater....😉😂

@terriperry6360 3 года назад

Did your garden soil get really hard from having that ground cover on it? I saw on another RU-vid channel where they have clay type soil and they could hardly dig up their sweet potatoes.

@DeepSouthHomestead 3 года назад

No our soil is sandy loam it stays soft.

@gerhardbraatz6305 3 года назад

How many years use do you get out of the fabric?

@DeepSouthHomestead 3 года назад

I'm on year 3 and still using the same fabric.

@gerhardbraatz6305 3 года назад

@@DeepSouthHomestead Thank You.

@TXJan0057 3 года назад

What do you use to control fire ants? We are ate up with them in our area.

@melisagenell6944 3 года назад

I use orange oil and Dawn mixed with water. Works better than anything else I’ve tried

@TXJan0057 3 года назад

@@melisagenell6944 thanks for your reply is it a 1/1/1 mix ?

@perryfroze 3 года назад

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@robinsong7298 3 года назад

Tell me Danny how to get rid of the ANTS. PLEASE God bless Shalom

@beckywatt5048 3 года назад

Research borax .

@DeepSouthHomestead 3 года назад

Move North LoL

@robinsong7298 3 года назад

Yeah well I'm southern from birth don't know if the north can handle me LoL

@robinsong7298 3 года назад

I have a green house with weed cover on the floor ANTS everywhere and they help the aphids, tried the BORAX AND DE AND AMDRO not much help so thought you might have a trick I haven't thought of (blow torch has crossed my mind a time or two LOL) Shalom

@DeepSouthHomestead 3 года назад

@@robinsong7298 yeah I feel the same way . LoL