@Brian Egendorf I mean. It's whatever the sponsors will send over. If it was up to him he'd be rocking an exobyte in his server and giving out petabytes.
@Brian Egendorf Well keep in mind the method of storing the data can affect how much data is used. You can substantially decrease the amount of data required with no noticeable loss of quality or usability. Storing data for archival properly can do this.
That ant he found is a queen, shes going around looking for some soft moist dirt or wood that she can make her nest in and start a colony. The footage isnt that great but my guess is that its from the Camponotus genus
@@Steamrick Yea I remember watching them struggle with that lol. But per second the phantom is still hogging more storage. plus LTT putting out a lot more videos of course
Yeah, per second it's pretty much impossible to beat a professional slow-mo camera. Unless you count the complete sensor input from the Large Hadron Collider or something like that, I guess.
@@Jonasdrady That's what RU-vidrs used to do, but they're learning that they may actually need that original footage in the future, so now they try to keep it all.
Ha Linus didn't think of raw file storage, he may not use his cameras "like a pro" therefore never realized. Okay a frame rate... Per second. So 60,100,200... Raw is 3x (or more) the frame size due to the meta and fact it's unprocessed. So I'll do this as stills... A 6mp camera takes a stand image of 1.2mb. A pro of the same 7mb. So if you're slow Mo shooting at 100 frames a second. That's 700MB a second. So let's get 1 minute. 4.2gb. A hour 252gB. In law we use a term "bound to fail" storing data is required and useful to a degree, but planning is required.
I've heard that if you say "Linus Tech Tips" three times in front of a mirror, Linus will appear in your house that night and install a 130TB storage server in your attic.
There's the advantage of unRaid over other software raid systems, you can upgrade it drive by drive, since it supports mismatched drive sizes without wasted space. Only catch is the parity drive (or drives) have to be as large as the largest disk in the array.
WD Reds go up to 12TB. Seagate Ironwolves and Toshia NAS go up to 16TB. So yes. But if I was going to buy 15 of them to upgrade, I would also buy another server box to put them in and keep the existing one. Above 10TB, the price per TB goes up a lot, so it is probably cheaper to buy more drive bays.
@@katrinabryce I would buy the highest possible hard drive capacity, because this can save you additional costs and space with a smaller case. generates less heat, and consumes less energy, especially in the summer when the air conditioning additionally has to dissipate the heat loss. Not everyone pays only 13 cents KW h in Germany, for example, you pay 36 cents / kwh. and it costs about $40 per year to run a single hard drive, and that's $ 400 for a 5-year deployment. This means that if you can save 3 hard drives, saves the additional $ 1200 on electricity costs.
@@fnordist Your math is a little off. $40 x 4 years is $200 not $400. Also your $40 per year number is like double the 100% read/write energy cost. These are going to run around 4-48kwh per year per drive. Given they are going to be idle or standby most of the time, I would estimate 15-20 kwh per year. Call it $5-8 (@0.36/kwh) and additional $2 to cool it. That will give you more like $150 over 5 years for 3 drives. With cheaper power, very low activity, and an environment you don't have to cool; the drop to $10 for 5 years. My prices are a little on the low side because they don't take into consideration the efficiency of the power supply, but if you want to consider the system as a whole. If it uses 450w at full load taking out the three drives is only going to give you a 3-4% power savings.
Yeah same here. At first, I actually thought this was an LTT episode. I was thinking to myself "damn this video is super chill and relaxing, they should do videos like this more often".
Linus: "Here's your new 130TB storage case" Gav: "I have a 112TB PC. I thought the name 45drives meant actual expansion with at least 450TB" Linus: "Oh, BLEEP."
That would be so rediculously expensive probably only worth it if he keeps the channel going for like at least 5 more years so maybe he's thinking about it
@@calebcarr3986 but he used much of the space of often used footage and this I assume is a one time thing if he makes a total switch to a server only system and i am way to high to really explain myself
"What is the largest file you can conceivably dump on here?" "You can record directly to the mag for as long as it takes to fill it so... one TERABYTE is the largest file I can make" Linus, and most PC enthusiasts: O_o.... Wow..
@@livedandletdie I'm far from being a tech savvy person, but doesn't that mean that these cameras have one hell of a lot of power to be able to produce, transfer and store 1.5GB of data per second??
1:59 is that magic moment where Linus hears "200 terabytes," and realizes that he is not only in trouble, but WOEFULLY underprepared. This is the moment that Linus' mind immediately goes "Mistakes were made, and now it's on camera." I live for these moments.
I did comment else where about this disaster. You would have thought he would have considered real photography (videography) as he has similar cameras, or are they just not used correctly... Not that he needs raw data. I saw 130tb in a old tech "sever" that would have never touched this issue at all. Here is a 2month solution... It's the wrong solution and done the wrong way. I'd you look back Linus is not a real tech and do see his server and storage stuff & set up. I'll say no more I find the video Linus makes for entertainment purposes only (and other) just that. It does appear good though...
@@guywhoknows he literally uses this setup himself and he uses more data than the slowmo guys, he's just playing it up because it's funny how much data they are using. If you want to locally store this much data, this is the right approach.
@@lusteraliaszero I would disagree with the approach. It is kind of right for SME or general domestic. When your talking uhd raw data is massive, even HD. The correct "good sense" would be a main data server with an attached array. Like a SAN. That way you can add to the array and only add storage to the network rather than adding servers with drive space rather than a storage array. For example a small sever with few drives attached to a 48 bay array. Even if you use only 8 bays, there are another 40 to add. Dumb arrays are cheaper IMO and would be good sense. But you could attach USB drives to the server and swap out data.. if you don't mind waiting. Perhaps data management as in policy is required.... Why keep raw files?
Rory Witham having done some research on why some you tubers keep raw files... it’s so they have original quality video on hand should they reference something and desire to play the clip without trying to get the file from RU-vid itself.... pretty sure Gavin says that
It all camera data based. These new 4K and 8K cameras open up a whole new segment of data storage. The good news is that that type of storage is now within the realm of the common man. In a time not too long ago only a multi-million dollar corportation could have been able to afford that kind of storage capacity. Aren't you glad you live in these times.
@@blackgrim5151 I work for 45Drives, I can tell you that for certain projects storage is indeed given. Think of it as money they would normally spend on marketing to get their product in front of peoples eyes, they instead just give away some product and it has the same exact end result but it actually ends up being cheaper because they make the drives for much much cheaper than they sell them for :)
@@blackgrim5151 all they have to do is give a few well-known people with a huge audience the product to get their name out. like what Mitch H said. they are in a way investing in linus for advertising. who sponsored iJustin, dustin and gavin for the server? 45drives. so if I want to buy a server who do I find? 45drives. you get the picture right? To get their investment, they need to embed their brand into someone's head. When someone hears about servers they will automatically think about 45drives, which directs customers to them and that is where they get their returns for the spending.
Dave L unraid doesnt works like that . Most of the drives will be in sleeping state . When ever the drive need to be accessed . It would be active again . Thats the benefits of unraid. For 1 petabyte if he choose 16tb ironwolf drive 64+3 parity drive . Those drive are rated for 1W for standby and sleep and 9.6W during working .. so during standby conditions it would consume additional 64W during standby ,.. if he opts for 5 petabyte then it would be 320W during standby .. It would serve atleast 5 years for him 😅
i dont know to much about ants but i think it might be a queen because of the size of her back compered to her head also wear i live ants this size are pretty common as their are more then 1 species of big ant wear i live by the way its in the south of israel
I really like both Destin and Linus, I didn't like that video. I hope I'm wrong, but it felt like they didn't enjoy each other's company. Their collab felt tense to me, for some reason. Hopefully I'm wrong and just misread the situation.
"Hey, we should hook those slo mo guys up with one of our file servers. They produce hundreds of terabytes of video a year." "Great, which server should we give them? The new 60-drive unit? The classic 45-drive unit?" "No, let's give them our smallest one, the 15-drive unit, which will only last them a few months." "Brilliant!"
This thing costs money. If they got it from sponsorship, probably they think they were getting back a whole lot from this project, so they gave the smallest one.
They can't be serious about this lasting half a year. Do they just not delete superfluous footage? Why the fuck would you keep *days* worth of slow-motion footage?
@@LlamasAreBest nah, this small version is right up that alley, that's why this BS thing marques and justine bought is so bad, it's overpriced by something like 500%.
@@Markus-zb5zd A comparable Jellyfish costs $45,000! Unbelievable... (assuming configuration: tower, 200TB (132TB usable), two 10GB ports (one NIC), no other upgrades, or even a support plan)
Probably because he filled it with the old footage (according to himself in the end of this video) he had stored on external drives (and a few small NAS').. If he deleted the files that now is copied to this (organized and easily available one), then the he technically have a lot of free storage space again..
@@andy_byrd Jellyfish and 45drives have totally different philosophies on how we do business. Us at 45 Drives are completely open with pricing, software etc. We have a github for anyone to comb through and use as they wish and use all open source software. Jellyfish however won't even tell you where the breakdown of costs come from. Jellyfish is for sure a decent product to use for direct attached storage for specific workloads, whereas our storinators are literally a jack of all trades. We don't recommend UNraid these days we have moved on for our recommended use cases. We use a combination of FreeNAS, CentOS + ZFS and for our clustered storage solutions we use Ceph. Cephfs is hands down the best distributed file system out there right now and our clusters can handle anything from Object storage, to file system storage, to block based storage. Not only that we can do all at once. If you want to run an object gateway like a S3 bucket, combined with SMB/NFS shares running on CephFS, as well as iSCSI block devices you can go to town! Essentially Jellyfish is decent at one or two specific things, whereas we do it all.
Linus: Took two years for RED Cameras to fill a Petabyte of Storage Gav: Hold my Phoenix *two hours later* Gav: Petabye is full. Linus: *Surprised Pikachu Face*
army6669990101 well he uses RAW footage. Uncompressed. So each frame is a separate picture. Unlike a compressed video like mp4 mov ect that layers similar pictures as one.
Not really that impressive. If you're actually dealing with 500TB + of info a year, you start to get away from servers, and start looking at SANs. I think the latest SAN storage devices we get for cheap hold 240TB per. You can buy this off the shelf easily.
@@Steamrick bear in mind that has been running a hell of a lot longer, and they film a lot more frequently than gav does too. They've been working hard to fill that petabyte, gav probably filmed dan getting hurt a couple times
15:40 FUN FACT that was actually a queen ant, they have their nuptial flights in April and July (depending on the species) where all the male drones and virgin female queens take flight and mate. It was hard to tell from the video but it looked like that queen didn't have wings, which means it had successfully mated and was looking for a place to lay her eggs and form a new colony.
You should consider AWS Snowball. They send you an 80 TB computer, you fill it up, and then mail it to them for storage, which you can then download from the internet later if you want. You can also get a 100 PB truck complete with its own security detail.
@@sturmbreakers7817 for me its same most of WD drives has failed while my 10 years old Seagate 1 TB barracuda still works fine ! Also 2.5' external Seagate/Samsung/Maxtor m3 drives are more reliable than WD drives with stupid PCB sata to usb3 adapter soldered on, while on Seagate 2.5 external drives its just simple - cheap adapter so i can just take it of and attach drive to my pc or external dock or put drive in console ! While back i bought 4TB WD drive and it failed in 4 months, now i have 4 TB Seagate drive working fine for 3 years now !
Gavin is just that one amazing guy you know who tells you "I just wing it." when you ask how they got there. That old storage setup was him shrugging and saying, "I guess."
1:07 this comedic timing is so good, i was expecting a fancy vlogger montage and i forgot i was watching gavin, nothing but the essentials in his videos :D
