MOTOBOB not only that sir, consider the safety, riding the same bike everyday could make a rider complacent day to day. A 2nd bike is necessary to keep us on our toes. If anything its as important as a decent helmet.
This choice is easy. Do the math. All that effort to copy technology and they can't even mirror half the downforce with bigger wings and they want 30k+. The Ducati is a better bike by far. The dealer said with all the options it would be 38k for the BMW. Man no way is that bike equal to the V4R that's 40k. I have the V4R and the S1000RR. Both loaded with after market parts. That V4R is missing a couple of parts from Superleggra but I'll take my V4R with my wheels. My weight difference is now less than 10 pounds from the Superleggra.
@@tron1007r the other Reason the Engine ist better and more durablle on the v4 r i see 2 Engine blowin on tge s1000rr 2019 on Track and one on the Street.In the SBK acctually Ducati dont have a Engine lost BMW one each Rider and A lot Technical Issuise in the SBK.
Up front, I am independent shop owner and have been a motorcycle tech for 30+ years. I bought a 2020 S1000RR with the M package. Mostly because I ride street and track. After riding both the Ducati V4 and the BMW, I liked the very user friendly power of the BMW for street rides. I will admit, the Ducati is nimble regardless of rpm and you can feel the difference at speed (aka my reason for going all out and getting the M package with carbon wheels). The other reason for going with the BMW is cost, I have all the the equipment and tools to maintain the BMW and that is not the case with Ducati (Ducati love their special tools). To be honest, both these bikes are far better then I am a rider but let’s be honest, if you can’t keep the front wheel down with 200hp, who cares if you 30hp of unused hp? Both are amazing motorcycles with scalpel sharp handling and more powerful then the law of physics will let you use, out of the box are far better then most of us are riders, what are you drawn to is the deciding factors.
I've never been on a Superbike, but I like them both. For my understanding from playing games, the BMW is fast and is very good at turns in my opinion. Although I've always liked Ducati. In actuality, I'd go with both.
After the 748S and 1198 and all of the issues experienced.. and considering all of the creature comforts that come BASE on the Bimmer... def the M1000RR.. .. although the V4 is the one that feels more thrilling.
Very well done! I owned a 2018 V4S and now own a 2019 V4S. I really like the look of the new BMW M1000 and all the carbon makes it a great value. That being said, I think I’d still take my V4S over either of those. Mine is very heavily modified. Full system, DTC Evo2, Carbon wheels, 520 chain conversion. If you ever find yourself in Oregon, look me up! You can take mine for a spin and I will take you down to Motocorsa to check out their offerings.
But does the M1000r price is too over priced Compared to S1000r just bcs the Bhp is lil high and has carbon Fibre besides that I don't think there's any difference
I upgraged exhaust with Akrapovic full titanium $8000 installed. Girl rider here guys, I went with V4 👍like and comment back!👍 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-CoFN7qWQ6A0.html
Except the BMW is lighter, has a higher rear wheel hp figure in standard trim but can't argue looks, Panigale models are thee most beautiful bikes in the world.
@12:17 None of them. MV Agusta RVS. It will hold its value pretty value because it is a limited edition and you can enjoy it every day without feeling the need to play Rossi.
@@froggo5374I was talking about what to get after you know your way around a turbo BuSa and have some experience on that platform. If your first bike isn't a turbo BuSa then your already setup for failure and you may as well get the R1 with no low end torque.
Recently ride with friend who has the previouse model S1000RR with upside down gears it is crazy bike. I was on my Hayabusa ,on first and second gear I pull him , but by the third I do not see him no more, is passing me like a blade. Despite my 350 pound against his 210 the Busa is ok. I am not very familiar with the Ducati and in general with the Italians bikes. If I have to choose will take BMW. Right now I am happy with my Busa, not so expensive and very reliable. In the 98 I become to know personally Mr. De Biaggio from Ducati on the exposition in Munich, Germany. At that time use to have Kawasaki Ninja 750 GPZr. He invited me to take my gear to visit Borgo Panigale and to ride the Ducati products at that time. I never find a Time to do that visit and now I am very, very unhappy. The video is made with a knowledge to the details and my opinion is very impressive. From the time I spend in Germany (10 Years) , I can tell you , Italian cars, bikes , trucks have beutifull forms, esteticaly are satisfaction for the eye, but technically bad , example what they say about the FIAT products ( " F " ehler " I " n "A " lle " T " eile ) that means, Mistakes in every Part). The German Products, Kwadratisch, Praktisch , Gut ( Quadratical, Practical and Good ( reliable)!
I chose the M1000RR. Because that's the one that was available the dealership near me. I did however buy a 2022 Panigale V2 Troy Bayliss so I'm grateful.
Never understood when some say, "you can't take this bike to its limits..." One simple limit: go through the gears, stay on 6th and peg the throttle to see how fast it can go, hit the rev. limiter, and you have taken the bike to one of its limits; straight line speed. Did it with all my bikes (GSXR1000s and S1000RRs). Obviously, the initial statement refers to one being able to take the bike around a given track and take advantage of all bike's characteristics and prowess without going over the edge and crashing.
Just went to look at POSSIBLY trading my v4 in for a BMW but after looking at the s1000rr I just don’t think the quality is there for me to do it especially without the heated grips and cruise control.
I bought a v4s because I’m too lazy to make suspension adjustments, but I also only ride on the street. My only complaint is that the frame can burn you through Kevlar pants.
Finaly a beemer that looks good, but i'd choose the Ducati because of their passion for sportsbikes, styling details ànd heritage with many titles in WSBK and motoGP... But in the end both too expensive for me I'm afraid...
Bmw 1000rr any day any time. Because bmw will run forever without making any electronic problems and moreover it will start in the morning in just one touch of a starter button.
i like both, but it would be nice if the BMW had a similar short exhaust like the Duke but that's a minor thing, but given the choice i'd choose the BMW
G'day Bob. Great work on this video. I'll never be able to afford the Duc or the BMW but they are beautiful to look at. For the well heeled only i'm afraid. I'll stick to my Triumph Striple 765 R thank you.
As a pure styling exercise and visual experience its hard to beat the Italian style in the Ducati. I imagine very few would be taken on track by private individuals. Both bikes are amazing and the technology in both looks incredible. Is this a similar exercise by manufacturers for 'Top Trumps' as the recent crop of big cruisers? ( R18 and Rocket 3) In reality the sales number is going to be very small? Great to see them pushing the limits of whats possible on a bike now and they seem to be catching up with car design and technology.
I love both of these weapons. The BMW would look even sicker with a shortened exhaust can but I’m a Ducati man. I would go the slightly cheaper V4SP which looks dope in black and with those beautiful Superleggera carbon fibre rims.
The way to go is a standard model with upgrades...wraping...fairings... Winglets...slip on light wheels...etc...N that's it N used...like i'm doing with a V4 🍕 pizza 🍕 2k18 with love from Paris bro...
I've had bmw current got a 1299 I nearly brought a v4 last year but I kept my 1299 because it seemed more better power delivery but ile be honest most fun bike ive had is a zx10r that bike I wish I kept
It's just too fun reading some comments (a bit like for people who speak eng, reading my "google-eng" comment version 😄), anyway are not many (luckily); obviously I am referring to people who, talking of these two engineering masterpieces, to differentiate/choose one or the other refers to performance as if they could drive them to the limit, c'mon... be good and try to be serious.😎
i swapped a v4r in for an m1000rr , both incredible bikes , for everyday road use the M shades it with the superb engine response under 7000 rpm . Fitting akra race headers is a must on the M , it sounds tinny and too quiet with the cats still on , and i hate the over revving on start up .
Except for the carbon wheels and bits and for some titanium parts in the engine, it's a 2023 S1000RR, which costs 20k less. Red for me, but the 2020 model ❤