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@dgomes265
@dgomes265 10 месяцев назад
R12 looks cool and will hopefully appeal yo the cruiser intenders. The R9T is still my favourite retro and prefer the look of existing model.
@FourIntoOne
@FourIntoOne 10 месяцев назад
I dunno, ride modes called "rock" and "roll" sound like an overdose of Americana cheese to me.....
@motobob
@motobob 10 месяцев назад
Haha well yes there is that! Don’t love those names either… but the looks of the physical bike are good imo
@plap.
@plap. 10 месяцев назад
in this day and age everything should have a tachometer.
@alastairtheduke
@alastairtheduke 10 месяцев назад
I'm not a cruiser fan but That R12 is one of the best looking cruisers I've seen
@pixelmixture3067
@pixelmixture3067 10 месяцев назад
italians are allready building tiny bikes ... germans should think of more than 6 feet drivers ... we want a 9T scrambler for tall people !
@DucatiDiaries
@DucatiDiaries 10 месяцев назад
Agreed fully
@VelkePivo
@VelkePivo 10 месяцев назад
Agreed. Motobob looks big on the bike and I’m much taller. Then again, judging from BMW’s ad, most of these bikes are purchased by free spirited, untamable bad-ass women, so maybe small is the way to go.
@Scouse.Malinois
@Scouse.Malinois 10 месяцев назад
I disagree. What do want straight legs on a bike? It's a normal sized bike probably mt09 size. Is it just that your really fat or something?
@paulred158
@paulred158 10 месяцев назад
lol you tall guys already have the entire adv market, what else do you want.😀
@pixelmixture3067
@pixelmixture3067 10 месяцев назад
@@Scouse.Malinois there's a middle point between straight legs and 100° bent knees ...
@JasonPinhay
@JasonPinhay 10 месяцев назад
I also think the older R9T was better looking. That new R12 looks really sharp from the video, gives me vibes of my Moto Guzzi Griso. Too bad they down tuned it, but maybe once tuners get at it, hopefully a flash will give it the full beans.
@AdventureRockNRoller
@AdventureRockNRoller 10 месяцев назад
That R12 looks really appealing. Can’t wait to see it in the flesh. I hope it’s ground clearance in corners though is much improved on the R18
@Force-Majeure
@Force-Majeure 10 месяцев назад
Not in my price range, plus I´m addicted to Moto Guzzi BUT these bikes look fabulous
@Jacob99174
@Jacob99174 10 месяцев назад
What are your thoughts on speed twin 1200?
@CorGP
@CorGP 10 месяцев назад
I would 100% get one of these over Harley’s new nightster.
@motobob
@motobob 10 месяцев назад
Agreed it looks the better bike 👍
@kmw300
@kmw300 10 месяцев назад
I love the R12! Since I lost my beloved R1200C in an accident in 2022 and even before I was hoping for a newer and lighter cruiser from BMW and it appears that the R12 is it. I’m really excited and I just hope it will fit me just was well as the R1200C , which felt like Taylor made for me. Both Variants look great, I think. Finally, thank you for making these great Videos, they are very helpful and nice to watch.
@colingoldthorpe5918
@colingoldthorpe5918 10 месяцев назад
These just look all wrong in person. I looked hard at them but that motor just looks odd in a retro bike. Sorry but the Bonneville is the perfect design retro bike.
@NazirKhambati
@NazirKhambati 10 месяцев назад
i am more drawn towards the older R9T but neverthess the new R129T also looks fab...
@gmoneymac23
@gmoneymac23 10 месяцев назад
BMW continues to neglect the R1250R model, yet, it's one of their best bikes.
@88davidw
@88davidw 10 месяцев назад
Love the R12. The nineT doesn’t look as good as the old one.
@56sketch
@56sketch 10 месяцев назад
Hard to justify the BMW badge markup but that cruiser is gorgeous
@carlosandleon
@carlosandleon 10 месяцев назад
wait 10 years and get a used one
@larryhouse3776
@larryhouse3776 10 месяцев назад
There's arguably no markup for it being a BMW. What you get and the technology that comes with it is very competitively priced. In many cases you can even see their S1000rr coming in cheaper than a Yamaha R1. And the BMW is more powerful, more premium feeling, and has better technology.
@williamrae9954
@williamrae9954 10 месяцев назад
Especially on paint prices 😮
@Stickybutton
@Stickybutton 10 месяцев назад
How can they omit the Akrapovic exhausts?
@LouisStreet
@LouisStreet 10 месяцев назад
I lost interest in new BMW motorcycles since BMW decided to stop selling service manuals. Support the Right to Repair!
@stewy62
@stewy62 10 месяцев назад
I think I prefer the old R nineT style but it had a good run, I guess it was due a change. I do like the R12 although it’s not really my thing. The price differential is hard to justify but even the old nineT was more expensive than the R1250R which on paper beats it hands down. Go figure ! The BMW video called the bike with a bikini fairing a “Racer” so expect more variants in the future although I’ll be sticking with my old R nineT Racer 🇬🇧
@Vegesaurus7
@Vegesaurus7 10 месяцев назад
I think the difference between R9T and r1250r is the build. One have more attention to details and fir and finish one is just a practical bike. At least that’s the way I looked at it. What I find hard is choosing which I prefer. Do I want comfort or cool…
@stewy62
@stewy62 10 месяцев назад
@@Vegesaurus7 I prefer the air/oil cooled engine (for reasons that are not logical) and the heritage style but the new R nineT is £2,090 more than the R1250R in the UK and £1,280 more than the R1250RS. Your point about build quality is well made but equally the £2,430 difference between the R nineT and the R12 I find hard to justify, and it’s only £570 less than the old R1250GS.
@Vegesaurus7
@Vegesaurus7 10 месяцев назад
Yep those are great points. From what I hear the r1250 r, rs and gs are a lot more comfortable to ride. I guess you really have to want the style of the RnineT
@chrisjonesbath
@chrisjonesbath 10 месяцев назад
Ummm, The NineT oil cooled BMWs were always good looking, but what were they thinking with the R12? The R18 was also a looker, but the R12 is neither a muscle cruiser nor a retro, a bit of dogs breakfast from the photos. Raiding the Harley catalogue for a rear mudguard does not a good looking cruiser make and cruisers more than any other type of bike need to look good. Maybe it looks better in the flesh? I'm a cruiser fan and also love the boxer twin engine, but I'm very disappointed by their styling efforts with the R12. The weirdo R1200C at least had a style all of its own.
@gillianbrodie6807
@gillianbrodie6807 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for a great video. 😃👍 I really like the R12, (the 719 option) and I prefer the look of the old R nine T. Keep up the good work. 😃
@ronaldthomas9396
@ronaldthomas9396 10 месяцев назад
I prefer the analog gages myself!
@zufadhlibuhari528
@zufadhlibuhari528 10 месяцев назад
Does it come with a fuel gauge? 😂
@xclent1975
@xclent1975 10 месяцев назад
R12 is not a cruiser it’s a standard
@Idlehandzx2
@Idlehandzx2 10 месяцев назад
If these boxer engines are your thing great but I hate everything about this look. It is like going to the club and searching for the fattest girl and leaving at 9pm
@AMDP65
@AMDP65 10 месяцев назад
The best boxer engine ever - the 1200 twincam aircooled. Bring back a R1200GS air cooled with basic ABS as an alternative to the finicky 1300cc LC!
@linopontes
@linopontes 10 месяцев назад
12k and 14k... suddenly a 2nd hand MT-09 SP or 890r are going to be even better deals.
@SSS-mp8th
@SSS-mp8th 10 месяцев назад
Being an R9T owner, not impressed with the R12 9T. The regular R12 is fine but like the R18 it won't sell well.
@DaveRapier
@DaveRapier 10 месяцев назад
Great details, literally just put money down on a R9T scrambler, thought they might have added power so thank you for making this video, well done.
@gtx332
@gtx332 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, the same engine, same gearbox, same technology, less power sold more money what’s not to like
@tompGA
@tompGA 10 месяцев назад
Issue is that this is still the old Oil Head engine that was in the GS's 2009-2012 and is unchanged. Also has a dry clutch that is positioned at the back of the engine. Any service on that clutch means breaking the bike in half.
@exlibrex
@exlibrex 10 месяцев назад
I've had two R nine Ts. Was looking forward to the updated nine T. But Meh. the design is fine but but has lost its wow factor.
@ml2799
@ml2799 10 месяцев назад
I saw that r12 cruiser today at the NEC bike show and in my opinion, was the hands down bike of the show for me, as shown here it looked incredible in the flesh.
@sarnbradshaw7382
@sarnbradshaw7382 9 месяцев назад
Did you sit on and try it out for ergo’s?
@asterix908
@asterix908 10 месяцев назад
BMW has lost its mind with the naming. R12 Nine T ... .Reallly BMW? R Nine T was already a pretty ridiculous name, even R9T would make so much more sense. but now its R12 Nine T. Is it a 12 or a 9? Make up your mind BMW. It should've been R12T.
@AndyObern
@AndyObern 10 месяцев назад
Does the new r12ninet come with a fuel gauge this time? It’s a lovely looking bike and I would have considered one but when you have added a few extras to r12ninet you are looking close to 16k, out of my price.
@RocnerdSA
@RocnerdSA 10 месяцев назад
I prefer the old tank
@posteroonie
@posteroonie 10 месяцев назад
I find the naked bike riding position more commanding because I have weight on the front wheel and can put weight on my arms. Cruisers may have the "commanding" attitude but steering them is like using a tiller.
@garyives1218
@garyives1218 10 месяцев назад
Yeah.......gold forks are still hideous.
@AdamC66
@AdamC66 10 месяцев назад
R9T owner... I'm not getting instant thoughts of "must upgrade" with the new model Edit: although I may sit on the R12 out of curiosity
@n22pdf
@n22pdf 10 месяцев назад
I owned an older version when they were first released.. I think the new versions look much nicer well done BMW. It's a shame they changed lowered the power so much on the other version. Pete
@johnhinds6540
@johnhinds6540 10 месяцев назад
Great review! Question: does the R12NineT finally include a fuel gauge? (p.s. prefer the clocks, thank you!)
@amandacatherine793
@amandacatherine793 10 месяцев назад
I would have preferred the TFT as a modular add-on to the analog gauges… I certainly hope there is a fuel gauge. I think a decade is long enough to wait for basic fare.
@kikoy08
@kikoy08 10 месяцев назад
Digital Display as an option? What does BMW intends to point, that there will be optional handlebar next time?😂😂😂
@MrAndrew1953
@MrAndrew1953 10 месяцев назад
Really like the swing arm on the green tank model. Having had 2 Boxers I’d go for the 109 hp.
@GaryFackler
@GaryFackler 10 месяцев назад
I like the new Nine T .... especially in the green color scheme. Three questions: 1) Does the optional digital dash include a fuel level gauge, 2) Is the optional bikini fairing available in the green color, and 3) Is an optional center stand available this year? Thanks. Nice reporting.
@jays9211
@jays9211 10 месяцев назад
All good questions
@eramusmotovlog
@eramusmotovlog 10 месяцев назад
How tall are you?
@ukvamp
@ukvamp 10 месяцев назад
any signs of a fuel gauge?
@geoffball9547
@geoffball9547 10 месяцев назад
Strangely the R12 has some chops!
@speaktruth247
@speaktruth247 10 месяцев назад
I really dislike how that engine sticks out to the sides
@SilvaPereiraTiago
@SilvaPereiraTiago 10 месяцев назад
Makes no sense at all having the same engine and less power on one of them.
@abermol1
@abermol1 10 месяцев назад
Mido 1.80mm. Y estas motos son pequeñas. que pena, lindos los modelos.
@JasonSmith-dw3vp
@JasonSmith-dw3vp 10 месяцев назад
The R12 is surprisingly appealing
@Vegesaurus7
@Vegesaurus7 10 месяцев назад
Thanks Bob was waiting for your thoughts on these new bikes. I always look forward to your take. 😊 I love the RnineT and think these are both great successors to the old one. You have to keep moving. I am also surprised by how much I like that R12. Can’t wait to sit on one and see how comfy those ergonomics are. It looks amazing. I’m also surprised how much I like the look of that small digital gauge.
@paulred158
@paulred158 10 месяцев назад
I’m totally not a cruiser person as I have older Italian sports bikes but the cruiser is a very elegant bike.
@haydncolcombe9300
@haydncolcombe9300 10 месяцев назад
Good to meet you today at Motorcycle Live, you're alot taller in real life 😁👍
@charlesbradley2943
@charlesbradley2943 10 месяцев назад
Did they finally add a bloody gas gauge ?
@mitchellfox3130
@mitchellfox3130 10 месяцев назад
New r9t all day. So much cleaner looking than the outgoing model. Airbox (and I assume) battery in a sensible location. This is a worthy successor. Green, analog gauges and tubeless spoked wheels please (if a suitcase of Franklins was left on my doorstep).
@S2NAZ
@S2NAZ 9 месяцев назад
Finally a seat height I can ride! Can’t wait to test ride it 👍🏻
@SPSteve
@SPSteve 7 месяцев назад
I really like the R12. When I was looking for a new bike two years ago (I bought a Moto Guzzi V7 Special) I looked at the R nineT but I didn't like the rear modern sport bike styling. I would have bought the new R12 with its more traditional styling and rear fender.
@williamclarke2020
@williamclarke2020 9 месяцев назад
That may be the best all-rounder motorcycle ever. Great power and torque from a reliable motor and now with USD forks. It looks so friggin cool! Especially the all aluminium and red frame of the 719. Solo seat conversion is wicked and I'd opt for the larger fairing instead of the fly screen. I'll have my saddle in a dark brown tan please! Wow! I'm torn between this and the Tiger 900 GT Pro. I know they have different purposes but a guy can dream... As per usual, great reporting!
@jedw9983
@jedw9983 10 месяцев назад
R12 looks fantastic. Can't wait for the review!
@mrlancekink
@mrlancekink 9 месяцев назад
great review!
10 месяцев назад
Here in PT the price for the new nineT starts now on 19.2k€. as the other "lower" versions will be descontinued... THis thing will tank. at least for now...
@stewy62
@stewy62 10 месяцев назад
Do you still have a Racer ? 🇬🇧
10 месяцев назад
@@stewy62 I never got to buy it. Crisis happened and in less than a month I had lost in value the money to buy 2 of those. :D... still waiting on a recovery... but now, I would get me a V100 Mandelo... In the meanwhile, still happy with my w650 cafe racer that I built myself.
@stewy62
@stewy62 10 месяцев назад
@ That is a shame, I have my Racer but I can see you have a very good taste in motorcycles !
@mikeogden5256
@mikeogden5256 8 месяцев назад
Oh that cruiser is amazing 😻
@manuelaluciani8449
@manuelaluciani8449 10 месяцев назад
Dude your reviews are immaculate and very well made !!
@simonparent7644
@simonparent7644 10 месяцев назад
My preference is the R12 NineT. I love the Option 719 paint Job but cannot bring myself (Read: My wife would have my nuts!) to pay 2100 quids for it. Instead, i am convincing meself that the green paint option is the most "retro looking" of all 3 options. I am totally on the market for a café racer in 2024, it was my generation. Now, how do i sell that to the wife! Bob, i need help! Cheers Mate!
@JohnNewton-ev8ch
@JohnNewton-ev8ch 10 месяцев назад
Life is short....you'll be kicking yourself later if you don't get the green.
@jajakub03
@jajakub03 10 месяцев назад
Another bikes for hobbits...
@naarealy
@naarealy 10 месяцев назад
Looks great! As an owner of the old RnineT, I was hoping they would go retro-futuristic with the new model. Most of the modern styled BMWs look strange to me.
@david-johntiemens573
@david-johntiemens573 10 месяцев назад
Thanks brother! I’m loving the R12. I hate the 19” front and the muted engine… but those looks.
@coboisarapatanas
@coboisarapatanas 9 месяцев назад
BMW R12 take my money
@marcusgeorge1825
@marcusgeorge1825 10 месяцев назад
Nice one Bob. Thank you. I’d take the RS version from team green.
@PaulA-e9f
@PaulA-e9f 10 месяцев назад
Is there finally a fuel gauge?
@kramrollin69
@kramrollin69 10 месяцев назад
Good summary. Its always a concern when the media photos show young women on motorbikes.......you know the bikes are too small then. As a normal sized bloke, over 6', all modern bike seem too small for us now. Although the Japanese perfected the art of media, when they use to put average Japanese blokes on CB750s and Z1, and the bikes looked Huge. I always remember as a kid, watching a young lady roll up to the lights on her new Z1, with tight jean, ponytail, your early 70s chick, and proceeded to lean the bike over a little to stand on one tippy toe, as she carefully balanced the big bike. Ah the good old days. So Motobob, how about a recommendation on modern Big bikes for Big fellas. I find the Harleys, Indians, cruisers all too small, with low seats. Im selling my restored '71 754/4, and 74 T150 Trident, because I saw a photo of myself riding them and I look like a Gorilla, riding a 250! 😄
@iancraig6070
@iancraig6070 7 месяцев назад
A re designed bike for 2024 from just over £14.000 to over £16.500 and no fuel gauge!!!! Who at BMW thought in 2024 no fuel gauge is a good idea? A deal breaker for many and a brainless decision.
@mikerider58
@mikerider58 10 месяцев назад
Analog speedo and Rev counter every day on Classic Bikes Rolex DON'T make digital watches. Digital clocks on motorcycles is a Cheap Trick . Rider modes are also a cheap trick on classic. Rider Modes are in your right hand. R12 is the Best bike lve seen in a very long time and the price fits the bike. R 12 Absolutely Beautiful 😍
@DEFACTO9
@DEFACTO9 10 месяцев назад
R12 NieT looks good, but to get what you want with 719 options youre into the 18Ks, and at that price how can you justify it when you can get all the tech in an base s1000r/rr? You cant, therefore the only way im buying one is used, BMWs pricing here is way off.
@sublimeister9630
@sublimeister9630 5 месяцев назад
BMW R12 could have taken some design cues from Triumph Bobber, esp. with their rear fender and solo seat. The rear fender on this R12 is ugly. The R9T scrambler tank looks better too. 👍
@vamshikishan7822
@vamshikishan7822 10 месяцев назад
Does it have tubless tyres coz in the previous model it was tubed 🤔
@motobob
@motobob 10 месяцев назад
Yes I believe the spoked wheel upgrades are tubeless 👍
@vamshikishan7822
@vamshikishan7822 10 месяцев назад
Thank you for the info i hope those who were thinking to buy will be happy to know 😀 and it would be a pain if it were to be tubed again if there was a puncher✌️
@Man-In-The-Home-Stretch-60
@Man-In-The-Home-Stretch-60 5 месяцев назад
Hard to believe BMW still doesn't understand the utility of having an effing FUEL GAUGE on a bike. What is this - 1967?
@samus4799
@samus4799 7 месяцев назад
Dude… DUDE. I’m going deeper into debt. Edit; That MSRP is a bit confusing though, I’d think it’d be below the R18….
@iivaridark6850
@iivaridark6850 7 месяцев назад
Didn't expect to see that what I saw but even my wife laughed... The bike itself is very nice after so many years being ugly. But, the engine could be the new 1300...
@msd85TvT
@msd85TvT 10 месяцев назад
That cruiser could be stretched out a bit bit elongating and increasing the seat a bit. Might make it a better cruiser
@jesperandreasen9086
@jesperandreasen9086 8 месяцев назад
The ugliest looking bike seen for years. Just the rear fender🤮 Looks like it’s been assembled from scrap in some US backyard chopper garage. The badge on the tank does not do it justice ☝️
@Gabrielone1971
@Gabrielone1971 10 месяцев назад
Good review, you have just confirmed my desire to stay with the 2014 - 2023 models. Smaller tank, less horsepower, lower riding position and poor indicator design. You’ve saved me 15k 👍
@humanbeing1675
@humanbeing1675 10 месяцев назад
Only the cruiser has less power...
@a.k1311
@a.k1311 10 месяцев назад
Main question : fuel range sign
@donnawillson1516
@donnawillson1516 10 месяцев назад
Over priced no doubt,service costs horrendous ,re sale value,massive loss,heavy,what’s good about it?😊
@shivamarya5225
@shivamarya5225 10 месяцев назад
They reduced the horsepower by 10 and have the same torque curve? yeah its gonna increase the price of the old one in the after market and nothing else. New riders with A2 license wont be looking at expensive bike to start riding with anyway
@Mac_okee
@Mac_okee 10 месяцев назад
Looks interesting. But: ONLY two analog instruments, the digital display is a crime on these almost classical bikes
@DaneJones-s1x
@DaneJones-s1x 10 месяцев назад
Not a good motorycle at all, Will never buy this. The heritage has lost all it's look. 100 years R9t model is the best which should always be on sale. It would have been the best seller if it would have been on sale for longer terms and not for like a month.
@jameshicks8742
@jameshicks8742 7 месяцев назад
I would love to know if they added a fuel gauge! I am leaning more towards a Triumph Bonneville T120
@andrewsoldan6050
@andrewsoldan6050 10 месяцев назад
they did same mistake as with R1300GS - they took the distinctive character away from these bikes,, pity
@MH-xd2nd
@MH-xd2nd 10 месяцев назад
I feel a bit like this bike’s time has been and gone. It’s been out for nearly 10 years, much of the bike is identical, using very old engine technology, tarted up with some flashy parts and incongruously much more modern elements like SOS and a digital dash. List price means nothing with a BMW, so spec’ed up it is also expensive, without really justifying that high price. I rode an original RT a few years ago. It felt loose, a bit slow and farty with the old oil head engine, and absolutely a bone shaker with terrible suspension. I hope it’s improved!
@dashuntas.m4045
@dashuntas.m4045 10 месяцев назад
The R12nineT looks so bland an generic compared to the RnineT, especially without the air intake
@daionsavage
@daionsavage 7 месяцев назад
Kind of funny that 1200 cc is considered middle-weight nowadays.
@deeday09
@deeday09 10 месяцев назад
Cruiser is awful
@Jasonkenny-
@Jasonkenny- 10 месяцев назад
If anyone wants to buy a R9T scrambler, 2019 model with very low miles pm me…
@federanger
@federanger 10 месяцев назад
No innovation by bmw , and on the looks department they get murdered by triumph . Another crappy realse.
@sublimeister9630
@sublimeister9630 10 месяцев назад
Nice tank, seat design, but the wheel tailight and fairing is common. The Kawasaki does it better.
@predragkardashian3730
@predragkardashian3730 9 месяцев назад
How is that digital screen must have for you on such retro model...it doesn't look good at all!
@cliffordjancelvalmoria4575
@cliffordjancelvalmoria4575 10 месяцев назад
If thise the case,what should the japanese think for their bikes innovation..
@fauveride
@fauveride 10 месяцев назад
not a good looking as r18, r90s or ninet... even though I've been waiting for this. Maybe I'd wait for the R12 urban gs or something
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