vyse is not broken has the worst ult in the game you can use apistol to avoid his ult or just wait till you can you use your gun again and his bear trap are not as good for blocking chock points
@@wavy5956Indeed after the Viper's Nerf he became a much better controller And even though their smokes are not global, clove have almost 4 and can help their team after death, that is very strong.
Clove is S tier and there is no argument to be made otherwise, especially since you put Omen in S. Having 2 smokes that recharge is arguably the best and most important utility in the game which automatically puts her in S. Not to mention you can still help your team by smoking when your dead.
@@Mr.NobodyYT6 It’s not the agent thats bad honestly. It’s the 60% players who never smokes, never drop a gun with 6K in the bank, Reyna spammer yet never take space and steal all ult orb from the map.
Yeah saying shes overrated is a bit absurd. Maybe in pro play, but anything lower than Ascendent shes really good. Quick smokes with pick me up, makes her incredibly viable in quick firefights. At lower ranks there is less communication and coordination. A tier for sure.
Seriously? Sage in B, Sky and Fade in S? Sage might be the worst agent in the game, Fade has never been on top, and after Skys flashes were nerfed she felt a lot in meta
Skye and gekko are top agents wdym brother. A good yoru is one of the most dangerous players to play against. Deadlock takes alot of skill to play that’s why
Viper in ranked is only viable on icebox and bind. She has been nerfed too many times to stay in meta. And with current cypher meta we dont have to play double controller with viper hybrid sentinel. Skye was just ignored bc of nerfs but people realised she is still great agent and future map pool will just prove it
@@Loot360 thats restarted logic tho? if you dont know how to play an agent ofc they are going to be ass? The rankings are taking into account that the player is utilizing their kit well. And deadlock isnt as hard as other agents like astra or yoru.
@@Pissandra_0.0 bro what viper is good on icebox bind and lotus and decent on haven abyss sunset and brim is only good on bind astra abyss ion get ur point
Clove is genuinely not that good of a controller compared to Omen!!! Omen can play both solo and with the team. Omen's smokes are longer, and insane refresh time. Omen util outclasses Clove's. Clove ult is hella good, and Omen's insanely good if you know how to use it as well. Omen > Clove objectively.
Just think about it. Chamber is only good with crazy aim since he only has one trap and is more of a duelist then sentinel. Sage wall can be insta destroyed and other agents can do the rest of her kit but way better
As a chamber main, he is in a weird spot, not a sentinel not a duelist. Imo either give him back the global range or two trips. Still his TP is still one of the best defensive op ability. Tho if u have good teammate u can just run it down with the ULT since it has a higher firerate than normal ops
I agree that she can duel, but she's in an odd spot. Between controller and duelist. And frankly, she has worse util than omen as a controller. Since her util is more duelist like. Omen's smokes are also better, lasting longer and generally the refresh time. + points for clove being able to use it after death. Omen util also just overranks cloves. Op smokes, op blind, and the tps if you know how to use them plus ult are much better than cloves. Plus he can play solo, and with team. While clove is mostly solo (besides smokes) since she cant flash or make space with a blind + tp etc
bruh clove is less about duelist and should play more with team than solo omen is the one who better at taking space because he can blind and tp in if that's meaning of duelist, see jett raze yoru can dive, phoenix reyna yoru can flash, omen could did them too but as secondary entry omem is better at lurking and solo than clove what clove really do well is playing with team because clove smoke range is smaller but good thing is clove can drop smoke quicker, can drop smokes at the same time omen can have better one way and bigger range but omen have to perfectly place one by one it''s harder to smoke while moving than clove smoke which can always use when running without missing clove should stick to team or atleast not lurk to far when execute so she can use smoke after death well smoke duration different is maginal, it's 13.5s vs 15s, it's enough to take site and shorter duration isn't always bad
clove is s tier in rank for sure she might have lower ceiling than omen but really easy to play effectively smoke after death have biggest impact quick smoke is pretty good on many one way spot even omen have better one way omen have to aim for smoke and smoke one by one while clove can drop 2 smokes at the same time can smoke after death mean clove and take fight aggressively, can follow up team after used smoke and still have smoke for post plant a lot of time there are huge impact by can just smoke after death many default plant spot can use one way and make enemy harder to defuse
"It is harder for Gekko to gather information since all of his utility is VERY EASILY destructible. Because of this it is harder for Gekko to consistently take space in a lot of the areas of the map." Okay so according to you, Gekko is not good at the two things an initiator is supposed to do in a solo initiator situation, but then you proceed to place Gekko in A tier, above Breach and Kay/O who can play perfectly fine as solo initiators for both intel and space. They can use their util to solo frag. You're a joke mate, never cook again!
how is chamber the same as sage, with chamber u have good economy, but sage got a wall that can be broken, slow orbs u can walk through and a heal that nobody uses
my considerations: Wall is baitable and the whole team can get through it together Thorns can be destroyed About the flash and the ult, yea.. i agree that both are overpowered
iso in last tier with just having a barbie mirror and a 1 second useless sheild and a worse copy of omen blind undercut the ultimate is the only usable
Holy fuck, no way you just put Clove in B tier. She is the best Controller in ranked, along with rowen. Also, Iso is arguably the best dualist. He for sure deserves S tier. Phoenix to is also super strong, u just need to know how to use him. I think Phoenix should be minimum A tier if not S.
In low ranks (im low ranked) iso and phoenix are better because they can play independently and you don't have to rely off your often bad teammates. In high ranks when teammates play off the duelists, having a jett, neon or raze go flying onto site it takes pressure off your team to dump util into taking a site
I agree that she can duel, but she's in an odd spot. Between controller and duelist. And frankly, she has worse util than omen as a controller. Since her util is more duelist like. Omen's smokes are also better, lasting longer and generally the refresh time. + points for clove being able to use it after death. Omen util also just overranks cloves. Op smokes, op blind, and the tps if you know how to use them plus ult are much better than cloves. Plus he can play solo, and with team. While clove is mostly solo (besides smokes) since she cant flash or make space with a blind + tp etc
Phoenix also has a high win rate. Sage also has a high win rate. Win rate is only one factor in rankings. We look at the overall power of their kit, their pro pick rate, and the general opinion from top players to determine an agents ranking.
A decent chamber and sage who is high rank prob outclasses a deadlock because of the sheer skill it takes to rank up with them. Deadlock is good but she relies heavily on gamesense and kj is a better option for those players. She is scary at first but good players quickly figure her out. At least chamber and sage can capitalise off good aim and grim walls and heals. Deadlock is tied to her utility l.
Not really. Used to otp her but after all these nerfs she is just too difficult to do well not including icebox and bind. In pro scene she is still great but for solo queue RIP
