I have them both. I choose Invincible 2, because: - 9mm drop vs 4mm drop and for a long distance shoe it works marvels in regards to Achilles - FAR faster and yeah you don't always care about time, but you always look at the time nevertheless - the rocker on the V4 doesn't really work, unless you're forefooting all the time. Also, the foam feels like you're sinking into the pavement and never coming up again. - the bounce on the Nike is the stuff of legends. I mean, the energy return is truly fantastic. I get easy in that rythm where I feel like I can run forever. Squish-bounce-repeat. - the exterior upper side of V4 digs a bit in my ankle, but that's a minor thing. However, I never used them for more than 12 km because of the other drawbacks. - as a final note, yeah the Invincible is not a stability shoe and it's a bit tricky to balance it, since you can roll in pretty much any direction, frankly. But I felt like that somehow added strength to the "stability muscles" on the calves. I'm very used to the shoes now (one of my pairs have almost 800 km on them) and I find the lack of stability a non-issue.
I have both for easy/recovery and like both very much. I agree that the Invincible Run 2 is the more "fun" shoe due to its bounciness and it's also the faster shoe. It can be a daily trainer for many people. You sometimes end up running faster in it than you intended due to its bounce and propulsion. I think the More V4 is the more "true" easy/recovery shoe because it kind of forces you to run at an even easy/slow pace. It isn't bouncy at all compared to the IR2; you just sink a bit with each foot strike and then roll forward smoothly. I liken the ride of the More V4 to running barefoot on smooth hardened wet sand on a beach. You won't be able to run fast on it but it's pleasant on your feet and legs. If you run a lot, get both and rotate between them for the easy/recovery runs and use the IR2 for the more fun factor and going at a faster pace and use the More V4 for pampering your feet and legs and going easy and just enjoying the run without any thoughts to the metrics. If you can only choose one, I'd suggest you weigh these factors and see which attributes of each shoe are more applicable to your requirements. If I had to choose only one, I'd probably go with More V4 as I find myself reaching for it more for the easy/recovery runs and I have other trainers that are very bouncy and propulsive: Prime X Strung, SC Trainer, and Novablast 3. Both the IR2 and More V4 are very unique riding shoes and I'm very happy to have both.
@@gooeytv1184 I'm a big fan of Adidas and have the Prime X Strung, Adios Pro 3, Takumi Sen 8, and Adios 7 but have never considered the Adistar. From what I understand, based on the reviews and comments I've seen, it seems to be bulky and heavy. But I suppose it's not too far off from the IR2 and More V4. Might be very good. I just don't need another max-cushioned shoes.
You just KNEW this video was coming. I ready own the Invincible 2's and I'm definitely buying the More V4's (and the trail versions when they come out).
Got the invincible and love it but only use for recovery/very steady runs to ease my aching bones. Don't run more than about 13 miles in them though. They get me out the door when I don't feel like it. They are a bit one trick pony but I have plenty of shoes for other days 😁
Just ran 2 miles in the Invincible 2. And they are super comfy. I felt like i could run for 10k easily, in these shoes. But only easy to slightly above easy tempo.
The Nike Invincible gave me a bad blister on the outside of one foot and the More v4 doesn’t. I was lucky to be able to return the Nike and I’ll happily keep the More v4.
I'm 1,83m tall and 113kg heavy bodybuilder and i need smooth running shoes for my cardio runs because running shoes with less cushioning hurts my joints when i'm running. These kind of shoes helps a lot so i prefer the Fresh Foam V4 because it is the softest running shoe to buy at the moment. Nike Invincible Run 2 or 3 are a little bit more expensive and hard to find in my size
Can we get a Fresh Foam X More V4 vs Fresh Foam X More V3 Comparison? With the V4 being out the sometimes the V3s can be found at a discounted price. On paper the two are very similar but i would be interested to know if the difference in cushion is noticeable between the two.
Yes no one has compared the V4 with the V3. Amazingly the V3 is still the same price as the V4 on the NB website. I'm also curious if it's worth upgrading, not sure about the V4 toe box and the arch area looks much different. My V3 has less than 200km on it but I may want to upgrade or get a second pair of the V3s at some point.
I have both. The foam on the v4 is noticeably softer. I find the upper to be more dialed in but still with plenty of room in the toe box. I really liked running in the v3 but the v4 really takes it to another level.
I think the Invincible 2s are a little more versatile than you’re giving them credit for. They are not a do it all shoe but they really are not bad shoes down to 7min miles.
That’s kinda why I moved away from the invincibles I found I push harder than I should because the turnover is pretty good and the zoomx feels better at more smooth / moderate efforts rather than the slow recovery paces I want to do in them
I have not run in the NB More B4 but have used the 1080 V12 alot. I also own the Invincible 2. I use these shoes very differently. If I’m just looking for a comfy lazy run or casual wear I pull the invincible. If I want a toned down training run I pull the 1080.
5 runs and 115km in the Invincible V2. Pure long slow run shoe for me. Any other type of run is done in another best use case shoe since I have....a few. LOL If I'm doing long runs (20+ KM) with sections of race pace injected it's the Tempo Next%, which I LOVE so much, I have a minty fresh pair waiting when my first pair gets retired. Which goes to the fact I know I will be getting another pair of Invincible V2 before they get discontinued, unless the V3 turns out to be a huge upgrade.
I’m not a true runner, I tried these NB More V4. I can’t stand them. I run 2-4 mile runs relatively quick, nothing crazy but I can’t even get through 2 miles with them. Absolute bricks on my feet, I physically can’t run in them cause they just cause pounding on my knees and kill my calves
The same thing. I just finished my third 7 km run in NB More. My ankles hurt, my knees hurt, my right achilles hurt. Compress ice when watching this video. First run in NB More right from the box was 10 km and my knees hurt couple of days to say the least. Just regret buying this pair of bricks. Just don't get it when every review says about some softness and cushioning. It's not there. Firm, heavy and dangerous shoes. At the same time I got NB Rebel as well and enjoy every step in them.
Off topic but just bought a pair of Merrell MTL long Sky V 2 in Spain, what a pair of trail shoes !!!! Merrell I love them oh happy new year and thanks for content , love from Lindfield West Sussex ❤️
Invincible is soft and unstable for me. It propel you up ⬆️ but no forward vector ➡️. More V4 is a better choice for running. For jumping ↕️ Invincible is a good one. For running More V4 is a better option. More V4 also excellent for wide ↔️ feet.
I have the more v3 and the invincible 2, yet to purchase the more v4 but I will. The invincible is super fun to run in, but I have found I only take it out when I am doing a short easy run or my heel plantar is bothering me.
The NB FF More V4 has been the worst shoe for my foot type (narrow, high arch). Even a 1/2 size down -- The NB's wide toe box, low drop -- caused mild plantar faciistis over a 3 month period. Also the foam bricked very quickly. NB ,for me, is just not a brand I will ever wear again. The only shoe that was good was the TC Fuelcell. I would take the Saucony Speed 3 any day over the NB FF V4 -- for easy day and all around daily trainer.