I deeply appreciate this video. I'm British & my Dad fought in WW2 in the great battle of El Alamein where he was badly wounded. I've always acknowledged & appreciated the help that the USA gave us Brits to help win that war. Blessings on you friends. 🇺🇸🇬🇧
Thanks to USA and to Canada, Australia, New Zealand, India and the Rest of the Commonwealth. Canada STARTED the Lease Lend with GB AND stopped GB STARVING! First Sherman used in battle at El Alamein.
@@damiensteiner9919 We had capable tanks, just we could not make enough of them. The Churchill for example had double the frontal armour of a Sherman. It also had a gun capable of taking out a panther from the front in the later models.
@@krackerman3628 Nazis, every Country that has went there own way from the Empire is turned out a Second class Country apart from a few, keep the Faith 🇬🇧
I was armoured infantry for 6 years, left in 2005, driver gunner and commander of the warrior. Always loved driving them but was very hard work keeping up with the challis cross country. Not sure what happened for the warrior 2000 that was on the cards 20 years ago. Stabilised 40mm cannon back them. Assuming ridiculous defence cuts put paid to that
They abandoned the Warrior upgrade in favour of the Ajax replacement. The Ajax of course is a disaster that is more dangerous to the crew than the enemy (several of the test drivers actually required medial aid due to the noise and vibration). As such, despite being well past its expected retirement, the Warrior is still in service until they either can the Ajax program or somehow make it work.
We need to rearm and put our forces back to what they were during the cold war, but it seems the MODs procurement is exceptionally poor, I always believed that the MOD should be staffed by serving and ex service personnel who what is required as they would have extensive experience in the armed forces. Not some chinless civil servant who for one doesn't know sfa and secondly and more importantly doesn't give a flying f,
@@bobbyrayofthefamilysmith24 Helicopters are far more multi roll than a tank. Plus they fly. Future battles air going to be airborne with smart tech.( Every weapon doing the most damage in Ukraine at the moment travels through the air) I've worked on both a GKN tank and helicopters.
I'm into British armored vehicle's like challenger 3's & all other light, medium armored vehicle's! I would like very much like to take a look around in all of them some time. I'm British
The challenger 3 may very well be a great piece of kit but while most other branches of his majesty king plug from the beano tanks used to divisions they’d be hard pressed to field four or five troops worth and as in GF1 the brits had a well deserved moniker and was and still is the borrowers
The Germans oversold Leopard’s capabilities, (like filming one with a glass of pilsner glued to the end of a barrel) to many countries who went on to buy them, including Turkey, where nine were destroyed in one day. They are now regretting their purchase. Challenger is battle hardened and proven to be a success. Manufacturing is now BAe Systems, but they sold the controlling share to Germany’s Rheinmetall. In an effort to negotiate a ‘cheap deal’ the conservative government has sold us down the river. Britain has now lost the brains behind future tank and armoured warfare.
@@peterwait641 never in a million years, it was little more than a vanity project, it was in direct competition with Mastiff, it has less interior space than Mastiff, and the polar opposite to the 'meccano' engineering/design of Mastiff as you can get, it was 4/5 years too late to be seriously considered
@@chrisjones2224 That's funny ASCOD (RE-AJAX) is a 1980's Austrian design with 1970's torsion bar and rotary dampers and in the words of Horstman world leaders in AFV suspension "offers a budget option" !
@@peterwait641 Old enough to have worked on cars with torsion bar suspension,, few people laughed at modern vehicles with Torsion bars, me included, only problem was/is all thise old cars never came in for torsion bar repairs/breaks etc
@@chrisjones2224 Bet you are old enough to remember bicycles with rod brakes and leather pads ! Strangely the 432 only needs a seat base of 1/4" ply, 2 " medium density foam mounted on to hull walls, the up-armoured version done by BAE did not vibrate you arse off either . No substitute for expertise ?
and the UK is only getting 148 .. and these are only upgrades .. it's about time we bought a completely new design tank for modern warfare ... the challenger 2 is 25 years old and needs retiring not updating ... you can only do so much on an upgrade ... new would give a totally modern tank using all the new tech instead of just what you can fit on an old tank ... plus it would rebuild an industry we need so we can build tanks again .....again 148 vs 10000 of any tank would be totally stupid in this age with Russia wanting to wage war on countries so they can expand ... if ukraine is defeated (i hope not they are doing so well ) we are stuffed, we might as well surrender now ... the only saving grace is that we have nukes so no surrender
As much as I love tanks they are no match for missiles, or antitank weapons, there’s some weapon out there that will destroy any tank we don’t know about. I wouldn’t want to be in one.
This Tank will need solid ground due to its weight , the Ukraine soft peaty land is not helpful for movement! Hopefully by the Winter it will on higher ground to use its fire power as designed !
I never knew we had most of these good to know. looks like the British army's land forces are gonna be alright. Especially with the 14 Archers on the way.
@@stevefairbanks835 14 archers are just to replace the AS90's we gave to Ukraine but ok. Do you know anything about the Archer system? obviously not. I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of 2 archers nor 1 let alone the plenty of the other artillery we have. But yes our army needs more still. But 3rd world? Are you a russian putin simp by any chance.
Celencer 5 tankı. Gövdesi üzerine. İnsansız yeni versiyonu olan 140mm topu olan insansız kulesini enterge ettim etki mevzil 30km. Azmi mevzil 45km 8 namlulu 35mm stamp
If anyone is wondering the reason the UK doesn’t have a lot of tanks is because our tanks are super strong and advanced so there is no need to have thousands
So this tanks will be sent to Ukraine ? Leopards was also said to be best tanks ? Send to Ukraine, it became a hips of scape metals ! I see British tanks makes no deference, still scape metals too fighting without air defence or anti air missiles, its becomes a sitting duvks !
Thought universal engineering closed down, despite their vehicle being better it was not ordered , maybe no one in the old boy network to make richer ?
Nah its not like!2027/ 2030 is when it'll be inservce! The challenger 2 will carry on its duty till then! The chally 3 is only under construction from this time last year and it takes atleast 10 years for armour testing!
The United states of Europe ( EU ) always have been , always will be , we should have let Hitler have them instead of us British and our allies liberating them
I notice the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 doesn’t have many Tanks while stated they are the best Tank in the world you only have 143 new Tanks coming then even with old MBTs you haven’t got a great force at all in case of War which l would have thought after the Second World War not just the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 would know the demand out strips demand, that a country will supply itself before giving to another and it did happen a fact of history. I would think Submarines will play a bigger part in strike capabilities but they can’t drive on land as yet so eventually it comes down too man power and equipment so the pure numbers don’t add up as on a RU-vid regarding the United Kingdom 🇬🇧 it purely stated that they are reducing the amount of MBTs once destroyed very very hard to replace anything. As Submarines will target anything that including manufacturers of weapons of war so you cannot replace a thing. Strange Country’s like China build up all branches of all it’s military while the West talk and project to the 2030’s to retire and have replacement 😮😅😂 you will all get caught with your pants down 😊
while the UK doesn't have many tanks unlike Russia or the US it going with a quality over quantity approach as per early 2000s late 2015. The UK imo has enough tanks to defend itself it already sending 14 over to Ukraine while upgrading 148. The UK government or military has not stated that the Challenger 2 was the best but by looking at tank loss reports which to this day the Challenger 2 has not lost a single tank in combat. The challenger 2 could also be replaced and thrown onto the battlefield as quickly if the UK went into war time production and status. The Challenger 2 is definitely outdated with its technology but if i was going to bet a T-14 against a Challenger 2 id say the challenger 2 would win in a modern conflict against a T 14. I would agree submarines are great for there strike capabilities it would only work in the start of a conflict because of air defense systems and countermeasures to them. as shown in WW2 the UBOAT was great at the beginning until 1943 to 44 anti submarine warfare was so advanced that the UBOAT was useless. The same will probably happen in a modern conflict with submarines again. while China has built up its force they don't have the combat experience or war experience since the 40s . While other western countries have honed there tactics and experience. The US, UK , Japan and Australia are well prepared
I think a lot of western military thinking is based on the assumption that against a major adversary (Russia for example) any western country would be acting in concert with other western countries, and that they would collectively be able to handle any situation.
well yh It doesn't have many tanks because its a Island nation the focus is the navy, Countries that border other countries tend to have alot more tanks
Unfortunately, Britains Armed Forces come encumbered with the likes of poor political leadership, or will, politicians you wouldn't trust with a shopping trolley, a civil service that is working against the best interests of the country and the will of Parliament and the Ministry of Defence who have simply lost the plot. All of the above mentioned seem incapable of wiping their own back-sides on a good day. Hope this provides some enlightenment.
Talk about "Fantasy Island" ...... Who ever put this pile of pipe dreams together isn't living on the same planet that the rest of us are! Thanks to General Dynamics, the new family of armoured vehicles (Ajax and it's derivatives) are 7 years behind schedule for delivery, and they still haven't made it to work without causing injury to the user. As for that wierd looking Ranger - never heard of it! Is this some kind of wish list dreamed up by someone living on the extremes of reality? If not then where was the "Boxer" and it's variants, which has been ordered? As for the title of this video - "In your dreams!" This video clearly was poorly researched and little credibility can be given to the information it offers as fact.
@@TheGrowler55 I doubt the US actually has 1,000 fully ready Abrams, even with a $1T defense budget (just add about 25% to the publicly announced $850B and you're on the mark), from a $23T economy..... So I doubt very much the UK, economically speaking ---- NOT that the Brits don't have the technologies to build them.... with an economy smaller than the lazy, uneducated Lib controlled state of California --- is going to have enough resources to buy and to maintain 1,000 main battle tanks, even it is just ONE of the DOZENS of top priority equipment the UK needs to have... Every major weapon system from WW2 to the 1980s or so were visual-oriented equipment. Most of the "technologies" put in them were mostly fancy gadgets; they don't do shit's worth. Not so today, with 7nm, 5nm, and the up coming 3nm smart chips, increasingly sophisticated drones (that could fly for HOURS covering many tens of thousands of square miles all over earth), rapidly maturing AI technologies integrated into every major high-end electronics, equipments, weapons, etc. In short, 150 of today and tomorrow's high-end tanks (Abram, Challenger 2/3, Leopard 2/modern version, K-2 Black Panther, etc) could --- with the help of drones, satellites, on the ground intel, and smart missiles --- EASILY defeat 1,000 of tanks from the 1940s to the 80s.
You don’t really need a thousand tanks you can kill a thousand tanks through drones or anti tank rockets 😂😂😂 but I think having at least 500 to 800 would be enough
Great Britain needs at least two more dedicated tank manufacturing plants built, as a matter of some urgency. Capable of firstly producing new Challenger 3 MBTs. But also working on a completely new optionally manned design.
The tank factory in leeds was shut by I believe the labour government that had been there since the 1st World War. Every government has destroyed the British manufacturing base .
Agree..the C3 will be one of the best battle tanks in the world but we need more. Heavy investment is needed to get us back to where we belong. Among the super powers.
@@paultanton4307 None of them capable of building a single new hull. I rest my case. Given wartime attrition rates seen in near peer conventional high intensity land warfare. Our intended Challie 3 fleet wouldn't last a month. Much the same as the rest of our other pathetically sized armed forces. The age of the MBT is far from over and the 1991 Gulf War was no indication of how our forces will perform 30 years later. If things take a minor turn for the worst. GB could find ourselves in a very real war against the combined forces of the CCP, Russia and some notable others. Even with our allies, many in a far worse state then we are. It would take something of a miracle for us to prevail. It hurts me to say such a thing. But as a veteran of the Cold War, 1991 Gulf War and other conflicts. The size and equipment shortages of our current standing force is truly shocking. Treasonous would be the best way to describe it. Every HM Gov. since 1980 should be taken to task and locked in the Tower awaiting the axe. It will take decades to build things back to where we should be. That's simply time to train more officers and senior NCO's. Never mind building a functioning self sufficient military industrial complex. Did you know that it will take a decade to replace the the artillery rounds we have given away to Ukraine! That's just one year of our contribution to their usage. Don't get me started. Grrrr. Aircraft carriers without full airwings, dependant on STOVL types only! RAF squadrons with pitifully low numbers of available airframes and unable to train pilots. It goes on and on. All due to the delusions of politicians and their fictional peace dividend. Double Grrr Grrr.
Optimistic! Ajax should have been in service 2018 but despite £4 billion spent not one is in operational service. Continuous Conservative defence cuts have left the Army with about 200 tanks and less soldiers than at the time of Waterloo!
@@lewiskx20 I know but still none in service! Like the Challenger 3 upgrade which will take 7 years to complete. If we are serious about defence we need to spend 3% of GDP minimum for the next 10years to rebuild our forces.
@@johnallen7807 I agree we need to spend more and I believe we will, but no one believed Russia was planning to wage war and the spending reflected that. Now it's clear.... We need to act fast.
@@lewiskx20 Correct although I knew it was a mistake with the SDSR in 2010 which was driven purely by cost cutting. I had the usual "blah, blah" rubbish from Cameron's office when I complained. The problem is two fold though, not just men and equipment (or rather the lack of!) but also the slashing reduction in defence manufacturing, for example I believe we have ONE factory making shells, output 10000 a week, about what Russia fires in a day!
The challengers were built at vickers in Newcastle upon Tyne until recently there was a full size challenger on display at the entrance to the factory this thing was massive
Yep people do not realise how big until they stand next to one. The Challenger III I believe is slightly bigger than the II. Then again it has an extra 300+HP so should if anything be more mobile.
the question is, why arent they built there now or by bae systems and why is all the heavy equipment not supporting british jobs and why take a step back with a competitors smooth bore gun, instead of the long range riffle. doesn`t make sense.
I take it that the factory is no longer there either? A great shame as I was at nerwcastle last year, Although my father was from Darlington, I live in wales and visited relatives in Newcastle, to have seen the Vickers factory where so much iconic British war machinery was made woould have been awsome! From one Crosby to another Barry, Thanks for that image! Just wish it had still been there. Take care.
@@TheHoTsHoTs98 rolls royce, german, army trucks, german, tanks german, kings german, anybody else spot a connection? apart from the german state visit and steyr puch (german) upgrading the sa80 la3? lol :)
British: We have one of the best tanks with one of the best guns in the world, entirely made in the UK. Also British: Let's change it for a worse German one, made everywhere but the UK. You can't make this shit up 🤣
So Russia has lost over 2000 tanks in 1 year of battle, so how long will 148 Challenger 3 tanks last in 1 year of battle? The UK would need 1000 Challenger 3. The UK MOD are a joke!
All this is not massive and unviable in a big war. Britain is a small country with small forces, it can only participate in some kind of coalition, and even that is not very impressive. Participation in Afghanistan confirmed this: NATO, with all its efforts, was defeated. The Challenger tanks have been sent to Ukraine and we haven't seen them on the battlefield yet. I'm afraid they suffer the same fate as the German Leopards: they will quickly burn out without any strategic benefit
Bit click-bait, sorry - the Challenger 3 is due, but to my knowledge not one has been made yet - watch this space over exactly what comes forth with what's happening over the Russo-Ukraine war, too - a lot of NATO militaries are going to be re-assessing, big time.
Love to see them in action defending British boarders. But that would be madness. They'll just export them free of charge to Ukraine I suppose. In order to defend the freedom and democracy we enjoy on a daily basis in Blighty.
