New BSA Goldstar! First Look Review - Mrs Flyer's new bike?

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New BSA Goldstar! First Look Review - Mrs Flyer's new bike? I've been waiting for this one ever since it was announced in 2016 that Indian manufacturing giant Mahindra had acquired the rights to the BSA name. Developed in the UK, manufactured in India and to be marketed and sold into UK markets first, this is my first peek at the new BSA Goldstar at Motorcycle Live this morning....what do you think?
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@jaspergrumfuttock 2 года назад

"Built like a gun type?" (2:04) Possibly because BSA was British Small Arms. The overall look is OK, but not the huge radiator which totally spoils the line. I wonder why they didn't go for oil cooling like Royal Enfield, which is far less obtrusive. Anyway thanks for the video, enjoyable as always. Ride safe

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

I was referring to the saying "Built Like a Gun" which is an old Royal Enfield slogan - BSA stands for Birmingham Small Arms.

@Chris1954always 2 года назад

Birmingham Small Arms please!

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

...as I said.....

@bananabrooks3836 2 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer Teal blue is more of a Turquoise

@graemecurran4306 2 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer Speaking of Royal Enfields...How is your custom one now?

@nickduffy8482 2 года назад

This is a very interesting time to be a motorcycle enthusiast. Seeing these classic British brands being resurrected by the Indian marketplace with the help of some design input from the UK is probably not something anyone would have predicted just a decade ago. The Goldie looks beautiful but I agree needs a little more refinement in the radiator design. As a 650 single, I think the soundtrack is going to be just irresistible! Thanks for the ‘first look’ Andy and good luck to Mrs F with the test.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Cheers Nick!

@lidiyarenjan4074 2 года назад

Its a global product to me, research & design in UK, engine developed in Austria and made in India.

@stranobikes 2 года назад

The radiator could be remade very easily, thicker core and a longer slimmer version would be virtually invisible. £300 and it's fixed.

@stranobikes 2 года назад

@Trevor Wood yes but apart from all of that there's a lot to look forward to.

@stranobikes 2 года назад

@@crispindry2815 there's nothing wrong with very wealthy people driving ICE vehicles, is there?

@leeoflincoln7062 2 года назад

It seems amazing to me that we’re in the 2020’s and we increasingly find ourselves surrounded by a host of 1950’s retro British replica machines. But I love it, I adore this trend.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Me too!

@savagejabbit5929 2 года назад

Yeah 👍 best looking motorcycles☺️ too many pointy plastic robot looking bikes 🤖

@asacarrick1440 2 года назад

It's like buying a piece of a better time

@bloodlust1000 2 года назад

Cant beat perfection

@halibut1249 2 года назад

Oldies/retro's are better looking imo. I'm not into the cluttered look, all the abstract shapes & angles and body armor. The retro's are simple and lightweight and fun to ride----easy to jump on, jump off.

@thewatchman6074 2 года назад

Got to say, they look damned impressive, and have truly captured the old BSA look. Gorgeous machines.

@BikerTorque 2 года назад

That’s a very nice looking bike, it will be I interesting to see how it sells compared to the RE twins. I love the idea of a big single, and would love to test ride one when they land in Australia. Good to see all the bike shows back on

@splodge5714 2 года назад

This is what I was hoping RE would do with their Classic 350, make a big thumper. Top speed of 103mph, not bad for a single cylinder bike.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes, it was pretty busy today too!

@Wobbz9413 2 года назад

Pity about liquid cooling. Continental gt is still the bike I want!

@BikerTorque 2 года назад

@@Wobbz9413 Continental GT is a great bike

@Wobbz9413 2 года назад

@@BikerTorque yeah. Trying to save for one. Bit hard on the pension, but Ill get there!

@MoroMagrew 2 года назад

They look lovely! After years of rumours there’s finally a new bike with the BSA badge on it! I was surprised we got such an authentic looking retro bike, I was expecting them to start off with their electric bike. Looking forward to seeing this bike out in the wild next year! Cheers for sharing and hope you have a great time at the show.

@jeffwright9431 2 года назад

I am a thumper enthusiast. Currently own FT500, TT500, XT500, TT600, DR650, and SRX600. I like the look and can imagine cruising the foothills at a thumpalong 50 m.p.h. on a Goldstar 650.

@PhilipBallGarry 2 года назад

Saw them today. Very impressed! With a build quality not quite up to Royal Enfield (but as you said these are pre-production bikes). The huge diameter exhaust headers are due to them having large diameter heat shields over the actual exhausts themselves. I did notice that these weren't wrapped around the entire pipe leaving the inner part exposed. I think they could slim down the radiator making it longer but less intrusive as there was room below. The engine cases had a very thick lacquer which I hope goes onto the production version as it looked very robust. We somehow missed you and Mrs Flyer though Andy 😔

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Next time!

@martinhambleton5076 2 года назад

I wanted to go to motorcycle live at the NEC. Unfortunately I am suffering with Man Flu. As everyone should know, it's far worse than Covid 🤧.

@PhilipBallGarry 2 года назад

@@martinhambleton5076 Martin, I feel for you. Flu is worse than childbirth 🤒. The show is on all week - maybe you'll get to go?

@martinhambleton5076 2 года назад

@@PhilipBallGarry Yes, your right Garry. I have explained that Man Flu is far worse than child birth to my wife several times today. Also the Lady Flu that she has, is nothing more than a trifling sniff. I think if I mention it again I will be in A&E. 😷😷🤕🚑

@bobbird2528 2 года назад

@Terry Winter sorry - masks are NOT silly. They protect others from you!

@uralbob1 2 года назад

Man, they stayed true to the styling of the originals! Good on you guys!

@SpiroZoren 2 года назад

Nice to have met you and Carol today at the end of the show. I had similar observations. The cost needs to be down at Enfield levels for it to sell in big numbers I think. Great to see BSA revived though.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Nice meeting you too!

@adventuretoshare 2 года назад

This is brilliant, I didn't know Birmingham Small Arms was back in the market. My first ever motorcycle was a BSA C12 my memory cannot recall its production date but 1952 sticks in my mind. It would be awesome to have one of these for a 2nd ride, now I need to plot getting approval from the wife 👍😃

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Best of luck with that!

@stephenfleming7056 2 года назад

BSA C12 production years 1956-58, I have a 57, this new BSA sure looks good and will go and stop a lot better than the old ones. Might have to sell a bike to get permission :)

@adventuretoshare 2 года назад

@@stephenfleming7056 yup, after posting 57 came to mind... Too long ago, data in my brain was overwritten. However I do remember how painful learning to ride was; to overcome a worn out vlutch, the previous owner had added an extra clutch plate instead of just replacing all plates, so you can imagine how difficult pulling the clutch lever was or even changing gear. None the less once fixed I have good memories from riding the C12.

@adventuretoshare 2 года назад

@@AuxesisHyperbole666 Hahaha it's usually H-D that gets a bad rap for crap dropping off b/c of vibration, UK vehicles 2 and 4 wheel getting criticized for using Lucas electrics :-)

@adventuretoshare 2 года назад

@@AuxesisHyperbole666 had friends who had a few Velocettes, and of course their prize was a Venum. Brother in-law was also into rebuilding, he had a couple of Ridges. As well as the BSA C12, I also has a Douglas Dragonfly which I bought in 'kit format' for rebuild, bit I never got it running, I'm too lazy to faff about like that.

@BibtheBoulder 2 года назад

Not generally into retro looking bikes, but I must say, this one bucks the trend, especially in the teal...

@jeeves6490 2 года назад

I'm amused at the attacks on it for the radiator and the various other details. If you built a brand new BSA Goldstar absolutely perfectly, you couldn't sell it if you wanted to, it doesn't meet modern requirements. Even if you could, people wouldn't buy enough of them, the world has moved on, the roads are different, the expectations for reliability and economy are very, very different. Some people just can't be made happy, they just wallow in their misery, sharing it with the rest of us. Looks good to me, hope there's a place for it, look forward to seeing it in the metal and making a decision on purchase possibilities then.

@warrenhancock5742 2 года назад

I would be interested if it was a twin cylinder. Surprised they made a single banger which will limit its appeal.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Well the original was a single…

@paulstredwick 2 года назад

Jeeves, I take your point and, when I read negative comments, my usual thoughts are "don't buy it then. Nobody cares because they'll sell as many as they can make". However, I was really hoping it would be air-cooled given that RE, Moto Guzzi and BMW have met Euro 5 with air-cooled retros. I haven't ruled out getting a Gold Star though. As long as it doesn't sound like an aquarium!

@ianclarke4814 2 года назад

Good design is critical triumph managed a rad that looks like an oil cooler everyone is a potential customer and must be listened to

@jeeves6490 2 года назад

@@ianclarke4814 Nah, some are just dickheads with no idea and no capacity or desire to purchase. Look at the Harley Davidson 👕 club, imagine if that translated to bike sales!

@stephaniemusick171 2 года назад

Wow, I’m very impressed. They nailed the retro Gold Star look. Those engine output numbers are respectable. The build quality looks quite decent. It will be interesting see what kind of money are going to sell for. As a Yank, I have to wonder if they have plans for importing this to the U.S.

@budbud2509 2 года назад

Just to add about the engine output numbers the MD of Mahindra said there was plenty more to come from the engine for future models , and thats very interesting . I will post a link if I can find it again !

@jonnycando 2 года назад

Yep we have to get them here post haste!

@mebeasensei 2 года назад

I am sure people will be re-kitting it and getting 60HP quick smart..

@dualsportwannabe3708 2 года назад

Not only would I love to see them in the US, I want them to sell extraordinarily well. Why? Because I'd love to see them get into the scrambler game and have a modern production Victor.

@overboost7667 2 года назад

Second that. Clean look even with water cooling, And they even made the last custom one w. flag&bulldog look not tacky, but classy. Glad they resisted the temptation to put cheap decals on the paint (except maybe for the BSA stacked guns), but make it look expensive.

@stephenfleming7056 2 года назад

Thanks for the close ups, best yet. Looks like the exhaust down pipe is a cover/heat shield as it has a similar diversion into and back from a catalyst chamber rather like the Triumph Bonneville's. Aftermarket parts will no doubt sort that out with a new section. I need to make room somehow for one of these.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

You and me both Stephen!

@peterprior1 2 года назад

As a Royal Enfield Classic 500 owner, I am very interested in these. My Dad restored and runs a 1959 BSA Super Rocket. He has had it for years so it's in the blood. Looking forward to hearing more on pricing and dealership network.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Nice one and yes me too!

@robbikebob 2 года назад

That looks stunning. They've got it looking spot on. The engine, in particular looks really nice. It is a shame about the rad but it's a necessary evil and I can ignore it. Fingers crossed that it's a realistic price now. ..

@tombartram7384 2 года назад

Duno why it even needs to be lc with less than 100bhp/litre on tap.

@spunkospunko4800 2 года назад

Noise probably

@PhilC184 2 года назад

That’s gorgeous. Not sure about appropriating the Gold Star name, but it looks great ( and no oil splashes below!)

@jamesbarrie2458 2 года назад

Not a proper BSA without a puddle of oil in the workshop!

@buzzinbritain8222 2 года назад

Well Bloor's Triumph and Norton have done it, and heavily traded on a history that simply wasn't theirs - seems to work for the nostalgia/patriotic brigade of wanabees that don't want the hassle or can't afford the real thing.... to me its just a name/badge - nothing more - the product and manufacturer has to stand on its own grounds for me to consider a purchase - buying a 'badge' is for the chronically stupid penis size comparers, but it seems to work, even more so in the car world....

@josephsaia5527 2 года назад

@@buzzinbritain8222 Not to hurt your Feelings. But Some of us want to keep our Fillings in our teeth!🤗

@admiralbeez8143 2 года назад

That has to be the widest diameter exhaust header ever fitted to a single. It looks like a drain pipe. Clearly the cat is hidden within that big pipe, so a cat delete and exhaust swap should clear that up. It’s funny how Indian firms love the brands of their former colonial overseers. RE, Jaguar, Land Rover, BSA, etc, is there any greater Anglophile than an Indian industrialist?

@josephsaia5527 2 года назад

@@admiralbeez8143 mey look all the British bikes the USA purchased back in the motorcycle hey day of the 1960’s & 70’s. I have a 19 Triumph 1200 Scrambler or should I say Thirumph?🤷🏽‍♂️ Made in Thailand. I

@scottyducati35 2 года назад

My first motorcycle was a 1972 BSA Thunderbolt. I also had a 1970 I restored. Excited to see what else is hopefully coming.

@crispernator 2 года назад

pretty sure the cops used to ride them in s.a if its the one im thinking of its a 650 twin maybe to close to the interceptor for production but would be nice ,i say look out triumph !

@jeremycraveiro 2 года назад

These look amazing, I’m a triumph fan but wouldn’t mind having one of these along side a bonneville

@PhilipBallGarry 2 года назад

Me too and my thoughts exactly 👍😊

@chip9177 2 года назад

Thruxton classic

@Stecer2007 2 года назад

Thanks for checking the BSA stand - can’t wait to see those bikes myself later in the week.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Worth the trip just for that!

@davidkeep6526 2 года назад

Like it ! Love the big, bold pipe and I'm sure after market would allow the shrinking of the radiator. Great bike for daily ride to work and with tyre and suspension tweaks would raise a smile on the twisties. 😎👍

@jackpeters9048 2 года назад

Love the classics...miss my 75 Norton 850 commando which I bought new after getting out if the army in 1975...nice to see the BSA coming back

@morri03 2 года назад

Thanks for that. Build quality does appear pretty good. That radiator is unsightly though as is the massive header. Personally I’d rather have the twin power plant of the Royal Enfield but if you want a thumper could be an interesting retro choice.

@ThiefOfNavarre 2 года назад

When you compare it to the dinky little oil cooler on the Enfield it does look a bit ghastly.

@peterbell5556 2 года назад

Awesome thanks Andy. I'm hoping they get to NZ soon. I am definitely getting one. May have to pre-order. I expect there will be huge interest.

@bferguson9277 2 года назад

I'm glad that the new company made an effort to make the bikes have a retro look like their predecessors. I like the polished engine cases as on the bike on the pedestal. I suppose water cooling is inevitable these days but the radiator is fairly discreet. Hopefully the dealer network is set up soon.

@martinhambleton5076 2 года назад

The Silver and Grey Goldie....🥰 Best wishes and a big thank you to all involved in resurrecting BSA. 👍👍👍👍👍

@nockianlifter661 2 года назад

🤔 It’s not a Goldie though is it ? That was a performance bike of the day and this is just a mild homage. I’ve now got two retro bikes - The Fantic 500 and a Vitpilen 701 which don’t attempt to recreate the past models and put a new twist on a scrambler and cafe racer. I get it with RE because they have essentially been producing those bikes for decades they weren’t copying anything - and the Himalayan has turned out to be somewhat of a modern revolution. The Kawasaki 900RS I also get, because it’s just a styling exercise on an existing machine. The Boneville not so much, but it’s a modern bike with modern performance. This BSA though 45bhp and 198Kg seems like a more cynical money making exercise than the creation of anything exciting.

@amandadavis9348 2 года назад

At last. I'm not the only person who thinks like this. This whole 'reborn retro' fad is, in my humble opinion, just cashing in on mid-life crisis people who think they look cool. Sorry, but I look at people on these sorts of things and just think they look a bit sad. But, as I've opined before, 'each to their own'.

@shantanu766 2 года назад

That might happen eventually. But understand the background behind it. The parent company classic legends is the pet project of Mr Anand Mahindra to revive defunct brands that were present in India during his youth. He has already brought back Jawa, is about to relaunch Yezdi and now BSA. Of course he won't indulge in a loss making exercise so yes as any smart businessman he is starting with baby steps. I'm sure with the kind of passion he has, once they taste success, he will go all out and bring out more performance oriented bikes. The future is exciting for sure..

@blackshuckthe3rd879 2 года назад

198kg not kerb weight add everything and it's heavy for what it is. It's not a Goldie by a mile and that massive radiator ? But it looks good.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

I agree!

@nockianlifter661 2 года назад

@@shantanu766 I certainly support any entrepreneurs ambition and enterprise and wish him every success, I just don’t get the bike at all. It’s not really about performance. He isn’t ‘bringing BSA back’ in any sense, this is a completely new brand that just happens to have a BSA badge tacked on. It’s clearly aimed at capturing some of the 650 Enfield market share with which it shares many similarities, but it doesn’t move the game along, it’s just another homage, rather like the mock timber framed houses of the 30s which copied elements of Tudor Britain. It’s certainly not a bike that would attract my money because it’s not genuine in any respect -calling it a Goldstar is a travesty.

@kubelwagen516 2 года назад

I sold my 1963 Royal Star few years ago because I never get used to the right side shifting, the old BSA sounds awesome, hopefully this new twin cam single will sounds just as good as the old one, predict the price range will be close to the RE Interceptor between 5k and 6k, will keep my fingers cross and add to my current herd of two Triumph parallel twin and two RE 500 single, this big single fit in just perfectly.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

I agree!

@lorimcquinn3966 2 года назад

Interesting, I look forward to viewing in person as I'm stateside. Is the engine a twin cam or single? A few observations, "primary" cover needs to be enlarged 10-15%, radiator could be smaller and/or tucked in with less obtrusive coolant lines. Make it a even 50 HP, drop the weight by 30lbs and screen the dealers for quality operations. Good luck to Mahindra.

@lorimcquinn3966 2 года назад

@Trevor Wood Thanks for supplying this information.

@stephennewell6628 2 года назад

Great to meet you and Mrs Flyer for a chat this afternoon at the show, good to talk bikes with a legend!!

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Well I quite like her but I'm not sure she qulifies as a legend yet!! Great to meet you too...hope you got out/home OK??

@RRRRefuelRideRace 2 года назад

BSA Golden Flash was also a very nice bike, have one in one of my videos. :) Pure classic bike. This one is also nice. :) Thumb up for this video.

@John2E0GTU 2 года назад

It has a comfy seat and good pedal/bar/bum arrangement. It looks beautiful from the seat and you don't notice the rad when seated.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Very true!

@rhonda-my_honda_cb500x3 2 года назад

"Massive [diameter) exhaust [header]"... I speculate that's because it's at least partly due to being double-skinned to mitigate the heat 'blueing' effect of yore. And someone earlier suggested they may also have cunningly embedded the catalytic converter along the header length too.

@stephenfleming7056 2 года назад

There looks to be a cat chamber just at the front of the engine, you get a good view of the connections in and out in this video, so yes it appears to be a heat shield cover as you say.

@travelinben1966 2 года назад

Norton hopefully coming back,and now BSA! Wow,my dreams are coming true!Thanks very much for the sneak peak TMF.👍👍

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes good times eh?!

@slantz9 2 года назад

It looks amazing! Cannot wait to see one in a showroom

@anthonykeel1058 2 года назад

Beautiful machine and appreciate them bringing back the name! But like you and others have said the radiator is an eye sore and for me it’s the gas/petrol tank weld seam is the eye sore. The originals were smoother looking and had put effort to hide the welds. I have a 1962 BSA A10 Super Rocket and would not mind getting the new Goldstar, of course depending on price and if they would even launch in the US. I’m sure the new ones would need far less tinkering and fingers crossed reliable!

@kevinwhite981 2 года назад

Yes the tank flange is a big no no for me it looks unsightly on any bike I often wonder why so few people ever point this out so glad I'm not alone in finding it a real letdown it very common on Japanese bikes all the old BSA'S never had it apart from the bantam I can live with the radiator but the tank seam would forever irritate me, nice bike.

@bhoogewerf2823 2 года назад

Sheer nostalgia. The performance figures given by the manufacturer looks modest at best. But we can see what the're trying to do....keep it priced below the RE Interceptor even it it means sacrificing a cylinder. Rom the pics available the ground clearance seems low like the Benelli Imperiale. IMO a 500 air-cooled twin may have been a better option. Good to see BSA back in business.

@A65Bill 2 года назад

Did Mrs TMF realise she was talking to Bal the bike's designer? All of the Classic Legends Team are delightfully approachable. The passion shines through

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

No we didn't - how cool!

@andrewgibbs5135 2 года назад

Wow, I watched a few video’s on the BSA earlier today but yours gave a much better perspective. The red one 👍 would look good in my garage. 45bhp should be just right, my flirtation with the Royal Enfield Classic 500 and Himalayan proved that 20ish bhp limited their appeal. Go for it Mrs. F 😉

@joedudz 2 года назад

The 500 is 27hp but it is a delight to ride.

@mebeasensei 2 года назад

I am sure people will be re-kitting it and getting 60HP quick smart.

@redleadervfr-v4906 2 года назад

Great stuff My F you managed to get the first look at the New Gold Star. It really looks the part and that weight is about right too. Think it will be a popular choice for the Retro guys.👍

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Me too

@davericketts9101 2 года назад

Personally, it is the massive exhaust pipe, that spoils the look of it, more than the radiator. No doubt it is a double-skin pipe to hide the colouring you get from a single-skin pipe but I like the look of the colouring on single pipes. I am sure there will soon be after-market pipes for that.

@joedudz 2 года назад

I like the pipe.

@OlllOHD 2 года назад

I actually quite like the pipe

@BikingChap 2 года назад

Agreed, it’s ridiculously over sized. No doubt they’ll also be selling a decayed exhaust that slims it right down and liberated you of even more cash.

@BiglumpADV 2 года назад

Love the custom painted bike, the ghosted Union Jack on the tank is a nice touch 👌🏻

@pokie6087 2 года назад

Very nice. I'm considering this kind of bike for my next purchase but the BSA is ruined by that massive radiator screaming, I'm liquid cooled. I think I'm more likely to go for the Royal Enfield 650 or Guzzi V7 - 850.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Fair enough….

@gerrycollins2335 2 года назад

On the other hand, a big radiator is better than having your legs roasted by heat from the engine and header pipes.

@felony53 2 года назад

@@gerrycollins2335 Liquid cooling doesn't make the heat magically disappear. The heat from the radiator has to dissipate. Naked bikes don't have fairings to channel the heat away from the rider. Triumph does a much better job integrating the radiator and cooling parts.

@blackshuckthe3rd879 2 года назад

Never had a guzzi but same as you thinking about V7 850 . That radiator 🤣

@warrenhancock5742 2 года назад

I don't find that happens on my twin cylinder bike plus this is a single banger.

@mjp_adventures7582 2 года назад

Lovely to see Mrs Flyer on the hunt for her first post test bike. As a shorty lady of only 5ft 3 I plumped for a gold custom paint job street twin which I still love 4 years down the line and don’t think I will ever sell but the BSA looks pretty cool too.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Nice one - the Street Twin is also on the radar….

@KevinofWessex 2 года назад

Big singles are quite rare these days.. i had a SR500 back in the day, a real thumper...😀

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Will be interesting to see how smooth this is….

@splodge5714 2 года назад

Yamaha should bring an updated SR and XT 500 back. Great bikes.

@therealunclevanya 2 года назад

@@splodge5714 God No. The XT was a beast to kick start 😄

@Tubespoet 2 года назад

I owned a SR500 from new back in the early 80s, a good but not great bike, best in the twisties, snatchy round town and useless on a motorway, I was glad I sold it and bought a Commando. This new BSA does look good and I think I'd like one as long as it pulls smoothly and has a genuine 45 bhp

@BBFSGaming 2 года назад

First Stand we saw as we went in was impressed can't wait to hear what it sounds like and see how it goes!

@hazy1418 2 года назад

Like the overall look but hopefully production model will slim down the giant radiator 😀 depending upon pricing think it could be a Royal Enfield, Triumph competitor. Go on order one for Mrs Flyer for Xmas 🎅 🎄

@aunoates6617 2 года назад

Great video! I can’t wait to see this bike in the metal. So many people complaining that the original didn’t have a radiator. Am genuinely interested why that’s the thing people focus on and not the disc brakes, electric start, mirrors or indicators?

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes good point - though the radiator is large and “in yer face” somewhat!

@michaeljohnson-li5nn 2 года назад

It will be interest to see the RRP on this bike, assume they be be looking at the RE Interceptor price as a guide. Paint and overall build quality looks reasonable.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes between 5 and 7 grand I believe

@tyegerjak 2 года назад

@Trevor Wood Yes do find it strange at a Motorcycle Show where you would think they would be trying to gain some insight into potential sales they wouldn't even give a hint as to what it may carry as a sticker price, if it is built in the West Midlands as they stated cannot see it being a bargain basement price, not unless they want to go bust.

@theodorerobinson2819 2 года назад

At long last, one of the legends has returned!! It will be great if these will be available in the Philippines so I can buy one.

@ChristopheDeBoeck 2 года назад

I prefer the look of the RE Meteor Fireball and that has everything a beginner bike should offer.

@I-Libertine 2 года назад

I have to say i agree. I don't know what it is exactly, but there's some soul to that Meteor that the Triumphs now seem to lack, and this one gives off similar vibes. I can't put my finger on it, but maybe it has something to do with the authenticity of an old school bike that's a bona-fide tool in parts of the world where a bike just has to be "built like a gun" to survive... the beesa certainly looks the part, though...

@andynotdave 2 года назад

Just got back today after yesterdays blister-making walk in circles around the NEC (New Doc Marten boots owch!). Arrived early as the wifes make-up and hair allowed (about 10.15). Saw Mr Flyer once being interviewed. It was like being a little kid in a sweet shop at the bike-show, so much to see and saw nothing at the same time. As a returning biker it left my head spinning. Tiger 900 pro, Triumph Speedmaster or the Kawasaki x900rs (see the confusion?) Loved the show will go again.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes it's a good show isn't it - should have come and said hello!

@laurenceknight3436 2 года назад

Lovely bike and fabulous camera work, very smooth and professional good close up with no camera shake. I really enjoy you videos, a very balanced view every time, thank you

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Thank you very much!

@gallagher4141 2 года назад

My uncle has two original BSA’s in his garage, they have done an amazing job replicating it 👍🏻

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes it looks really close to the original doesn’t it….

@rogerkay8603 2 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer Except for the massive rad!

@budbud2509 2 года назад

@@rogerkay8603 Yeah what can u do , Liquid cooling for Euro 5 .........

@joedudz 2 года назад

Yes, the rad could be more subtle and the only thing that would put me off if a test ride went well. Love the 650 single concept too.

@jackmadasa 2 года назад

Thanks for the update Andy. My first bike was a BSA A65. Kept the ole girl for 30+ years.As a result always had soft spot fir the BSA marque. Wonder if they will export this beauty to Australia? Interested in the $. Could easily see this bike in my stable next to my 1965 Norton ES2 cafe. Jack

@ccooper8785 2 года назад

Love the look and the fact it is a single. Unfortunately I think, like the Enfield 650s, it will physically be too small for me and the nearest dealer will be too far away.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Oh dear!

@dandersonjr 2 года назад

Beautiful looking bike especially with the dual gauges on the headlamp. My neighbor used to have a BSA dealership in his garage under his house in Pennsylvania. This of course was back in the late 60's early 70's. Don't imagine they'd go for that now.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Very cool!

@n4zou 2 года назад

After looking at the spec sheet that bike would be perfect as a sidecar tug. Gobs of low end torque and a real frame around the engine for the lower sidecar mounts. The upper frame of the bike also provides easy upper sidecar clamps as well. The bike itself is simply beautiful. BSA would be way ahead of the game partnering with a sidecar manufacturer offering a "factory" sidecar as a package deal or making the sidecar an optional accessory. That would allow someone to add a sidecar later. Custom paint and badges for the sidecar would make them very popular.

@neccessariumsmith7795 2 года назад

Absolutely. Agree 100% Let's hope they do it sometime in the future🤞🤞

@rogerkay8603 2 года назад

Sidecar, surely not? Practical in some instances I guess but no filtering and still getting wet = no thanks but each to their own.

@n4zou 2 года назад

@@rogerkay8603 Sidecars are fun first of all and when you're old like me a sidecar let's me keep riding motorcycles. I've had trike's and hate them. You get respect on a sidecar motorcycle and zero respect on a trike. Worse is sitting in the middle so you can't see around the vehicles ahead of you. They also have three wheel tracks so it's near impossible to avoid pot holes. Women also love sidecars so they ask you for dates and your number.

@Beeza56 2 года назад

You’re spot on about being decent for combo duty. One can only hope and pray that Steib steps up to the plate. Would certainly look cooler than my Meteor on the Thruxton.

@jeeves6490 2 года назад

The Inder ones used on RE's would suit just fine

@jasonwood6100 2 года назад

So nice to talk to you and Carole today at custom fit guards stand, although I couldn’t quite change your opinion of Two Strokes, keep up the great work.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Nice to meet you too Jason…

@mentalbiker 2 года назад

blue and chrome 👍

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Nice that one isn’t it….

@JamesWilson-ve9zi 2 года назад

Hi, I am really pleased you showed the BSA. I really like this bike and I will be looking forward to a review from you when possible.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Me too!

@ianedwards8215 2 года назад

Interceptor should have those pipes

@davidellis279 2 года назад

That bike is beautiful and I hope it’s as good on the road as it looks and the price is right,I had a Golden Flash 650cc in the sixties and did over 40,000 miles on that machine without any major problems. The only problem was the Front Brake was hopeless because the drum was oval and it was downright dangerous to use as it grabbed uncontrollably when used, the rear brake shoe’s wore out on a regular basis because of over use but apart from that it was faultless. With having the Iron cylinder head it was near silent mechanically at tick over with non of the tappet noise you get with alloy heads. I would love one of these bikes but at nearly 77 I think old age has caught up with me,I bought a new RE Interceptor on a whim but it was too heavy for me so I sold it to remove temptation from trying to ride it,my family weren’t happy with me and we’re relieved when it went.

@dungbeetle. 2 года назад

Looks nice, but does a 45bhp 650 single really need a radiator that big?

@VolkswagenGamer 2 года назад

Yeah I wonder how much more power can be had from this engine. The supporting mods seem to be there, not sure about the quality of the internals.

@canturgan 2 года назад

Or at all.

@jamesrobinson46 2 года назад

There's an interview with the CEO on another channel that mentions that this 45hp version is restricted and that it may make more power in other variants. Very interesting...

@dungbeetle. 2 года назад

@@canturgan Yeah, pity they couldn't get away with just a small oil cooler like on the RE 650 twins. Or better still, a long thin vertical oil cooler like on the HD Milwaukee 8s.

@tonymartin3780 2 года назад

It looks a winner 👍I feel the only thing that will let the brand down is the dealer network and customer service, the people who I feel will buy theses are old school , if they get it right the sky is the limit with upgrades and customising,like RE

@colinmain5641 2 года назад

Nice video (again) Andy was wanting to go to the NEC for that show but alas no time..😕 I’m having one of those bikes as soon as soon as I can. In the silver ‘sheen’ colour. Love the look of the engine that is completely reminiscent of the B series BSA engine from the 50’s. (That’s sitting in my garage right now in fact) fake pushrod tube not so much.. Is this their own engine? 🤷🏼‍♂️ Lovely bike and I’ll be parting with money for one! 👍🏻

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes I’m very tempted I must say - and yes they developed the engine I believe (at the UK Dev centre)….

@georgezuss2925 2 года назад

Glad to see you bring some glamour to the show ( Mrs. F, not you, you handsome brute!). Went Sundy with my youngest son; we .over every moment. After a 2year wait, it was fabulous to have day of 'motorbikeness' together. Yamaha was a disappointment, made up for by myriad others...CCM, RE, Triumph, Honda, et-al. I thought some of the smaller names and machines, Lexmoto, UM, Herald, WK, and more, did a fabulous job too. Some great machines. But the surprise for the day was that Goldie from BSA...what a beauty. Can't wait to see you and the usual posse putting them through their paces and enlightening us. ( Bet Chopsy flutters his eyelashes and gets hold of one first, though...!) I saw what you meant about the HD Fat Bob...very nice...liked the Sportster S aswell. Not my kind of machines normally but I have to admit they felt very very nice. Hope your day went well on the stands, take care, chap, please doff one to the lovely lady from me.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Willco George - thanks for watching!

@lylemacdonald6672 2 года назад

Liquid cooling=ability to run higher compression ratio=more HP/cc. This bike has a butt ugly radiator the size of one off an old Gold Wing and still the bike only puts out 40+ brake horse power?! By comparison the Vitpilen 701 (695cc) liquid cooled thumper puts out 75hp. The BSA should be reliable given it looks like the engine is seriously de-tuned but I doubt it will compete sales wise or performance wise with the RE650's.

@rstmg60 2 года назад

I saw a video yesterday with the owner of BSA showing you round the bike where he says (paraphrased) “it’s been designed to be easily tuneable for different power outputs” Whether that’s with hardware or software wasn’t mentioned but would leave room for Rocket and Clubman versions with more HP.

@markalton6258 2 года назад

I'll give it 6 months before the "more-go" kits come out, along with the noisy pipes, bump-seats, clip-ons and fly screens.

@andrewprice1189 2 года назад

Hopefully we get to see Mrs Flyer doing more stuff on camera, you can see she is a bit nervous but reckon she would be awesome!

@colindeans5972 2 года назад

Mrs TMF's "not bad" actually meant "I ain't havin' one of those old school things, I'm having a noo Doo'cahtee" The TMF wallet is in for a pounding 🤣

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes wasn't a ringing endorsement was it.....

@pdr5926 2 года назад

You wouldn't need the same radiator as for the hot weather in India, so a smaller version could be fitted for the bikes running in colder zones.

@davidperkins605 2 года назад

Thanks for preview, I honestly don't think they will be to make them fast enough, I love it.....

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

I think you're right David - these'll fly off the shelves....

@fazfarrar. 2 года назад

Hello again. It was really nice to have finally met you both today at the NEC. Ive gone through my pictures of the day and i decided to keep them all inc the pic I had with you looking a little camp I hope you dont mind. Many thanks again hope to chat again soon Andy (The Roundhay Biker)

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Nice to meet you - that picture will be priceless someday ;0)

@fazfarrar. 2 года назад

@@TheMissendenFlyer great if so I will go half's with you, deal

@RobVespa 2 года назад

The BSA Gold Star has long been on my short list. While I find the original more attractive, I wouldn't shy from all the modern upgrades. All this said, I look forward to reviews and, well, it depends on if the manufacturer is going to go the way of Norton and Indian and charge your first born for the privilege of filling the garage. They are lovely. They remind me of the older chrome Bullets. Thanks for the look - and it's exciting that your misses is going to get a bike. That's lovely. All the best!

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Cheers Rob!

@gm16v149 2 года назад

The old 500cc BSA DBD34 Gold Star was notoriously hard to start, I remember seeing a guy try to run and bump one in Newquay, Cornwall back in the 1960s. They used to have the famous “twitter” from the exhaust when you backed off, I wonder if they’ve tuned that in to the new bike. At least it will be easier to start.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Let’s hope so! Looking forward to hearing one….

@Signals927 2 года назад

I wasn't aware that the BSA brand was still going, I trained on a BSA 500 in the Army. Great to see them back again.

@lynsmith1096 2 года назад

Good video TMF. Great to see another British Classic bike back.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Isn’t it just!

@nicensleazy1892 2 года назад

Very nice, certainly competing with Triumph when tugging on those heritage heart strings. Although when I looked, I couldn't find a BSA current web site and I understand it's made in India. With buying these kind of bikes, I only hope there is customer back-up and support. We all remember the debacle with Norton ! For me, I would still go with Triumph , made in the UK and the dealer support is good!

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

In time BSA tell me they want to make these in the midlands! They were "designed and engineered" here in the UK....

@soulrebelno1 2 года назад

One of the fastest bikes of the 1950s! At 213kg wet it's surprisingly heavy for a single cylinder 650, looks like it's the frame, there seems to be quite a lot of metalwork going on. A Honda CB650R weighs 203kg wet, and a 1200cc Triumph Speed Twin weighs slightly more at 216kg wet. It's a direct competitor for Royal Enfield’s Interceptor 650 twin, my guess is the prices will be slightly cheaper, probably between £5000 and £6000 depending on the model. Looks nice though, my favourite is the blue colourway, very 1950s, you'll have to see how it handles. 👍

@geoffreygodbold7308 2 года назад

Excellent video; great to have someone with a bit of excitement in their voice rather than a slow, drawn out Yorkshire accent!!!! ‘Made like a gun’ is of course Royal Enfield. I should know, my grandfather created it!!

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

You’re kidding Geoffrey?? Really? Cool!!

@nestorasbellas6604 2 года назад

She is goo the looks, now i am sure you re going to let us know if she has the other essentials to be a great bike! Very nice that they let you in early, much better presentation because of it, in comparison to the usual crowded halls with the youtubers struggling for a clear take!

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes luckily for me one of the organisers outside the hall recognised us and ushered us in 10 minutes early!

@Grahamvfr 2 года назад

Yes, I was there yesterday and quite impressed with how they looked. Definitely got appeal.

@DormanDiaries 2 года назад

Nice to see another old brand entering this segment. Looks well proportioned. Like the 17r and 18f setup. Wish it was air cooled like the RE. Looking forward to hearing more about it 👍 - hopefully the price is attractive too!

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes - I'm sure it will be....my guess is £6,500....fancy one?

@tallboy2234 2 года назад

A Fabulous looking bike! Here’s Hoping for this one to make it! A must-have in Silver/Chrome for me!

@peter7624 2 года назад

Well it looks like a real Goldie from a distance, but as others have said, these days it needs to meet emissions and safety specs so the original would never make it on to todays roads. My brother John had an original 500 Goldie and you needed to be something of a home mechanic to keep it running. They're both lovely bikes each in their own way.

@FlyingScot 2 года назад

Add that to a Busmar sidecar and I'm back in the 60s as a kid with my dad and family again.! We had 7 of us clamber out that outfit and the stares we got back then I can still see! I got a RE 650 interceptor in chrome to remind me of that bike but I'd get this for sure if it comes to the USA.

@simonbowen6653 2 года назад

Saw at Motorcycle Live today. If it rides as well as it looks they're onto a winner.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

I think so Simon!

@barryjmarling 2 года назад

This has got to be the best looking retro I’ve seen,always liked the triumphs but this looks head and shoulders above it,just gutted as at 6 foot 2 the 790 seat is going to be to cramped. So pleased you put this video up as this has got to be the most exiting two wheeled news for a very long time.

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

I think so Barry - can’t wait to hear what it sounds like!

@leonardpearlman4017 Год назад

I keep running into this. I keep getting interested in various similar cycles, only to find that they're kind of "compact", which you can't tell from casual pictures. It looks like everything is slanted toward the shorter person... but people in general are getting taller! You could almost dream of "small, medium and large" frames? Everything else the same.... I can see how market forces would make it necessary to have a frame that can accommodate the shortest rider...

@LloydGrace1 2 года назад

First proper video I’ve seen on this bike, well done👍 What an absolutely beautiful looker, wow! Love the idea of a single thumper, especially one as beautiful as that. I remember riding a BSA Bantam when I was a kid, one of the first bikes I ever rode. Looking forward to hearing how it sounds

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Yes me too!

@splodge5714 2 года назад

Thanks for that viewing. I like the silver one with chrome mudguards and polished engine casings. No price yet, hope they keep it around £6,000.

@fastcelt5241 2 года назад

What you said was a massive exhaust , was a front pipe cover held on by jubilee clips. Hope that improves for the production bikes

@rishimehta4875 2 года назад

A Hearty Salute To MAHINDRAS......for millions of people across Europe and Asia , BSA is an iconic passion more than a brand .... and someone out there is enduring what could perhaps be the most enterprising challenge in the viciously competitive vast WORLD OF MOTORCYCLING .... TRULY MOTORCYCLING !

@ourspanishadventures 2 года назад

I was hoping you would give us a quick preview. Thanks to you both👍 It takes me back 😁

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

Our pleasure - we had about ten minutes to look around the show before it opened and this is the bike we headed for!

@paulkelly2882 2 года назад

I can see a tail tidy and the indicators being changed straight away, but it’s sweet looking machine

@TheMissendenFlyer 2 года назад

...yeah, and maybe some nobbly tyres....

@garyhope0103 2 года назад

Yes, love the looks of the BSA, lookkng foward to hear of release/testing dates

@ChrisPinCornwall 2 года назад

Nice. Very nice. Now that I am a geriatric, I'm looking for something slower and more 'classic'. I'll definitely think about one of these.

@banditman1200s 2 года назад

My friend had an original gold star it burnt a lot of oil had to take plug out every 10 miles to clean it as it started to misfire if he didn’t but he eventually got it sorted and it made a great bike brought back memories yor vid 👍🏻