New Campagnolo Super Record Wireless: You won’t believe what’s changed! 

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Get a grip mate, other channels mentioned the huge short comings of gear range, non common batteries, huge derailleurs interfering with tyre clearance, and no freehub backward compatibility....and insane price. David is pretty much reading from the campy brochure here

I failed to see, what could be the differences in look between this groupset and other sram or shimano groupsets?? To be honest, they all look almost the same! Don't you agree?

You didn't watch my video then did you? Other outlets had the opportunity to ride it, I have not ridden it so it was just a quick first look at the main changes and I shared my thoughts on those in this video which were not overly positive

Indeed!

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how true !!

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That's the first thing I noticed. I have Etap and the ability to swap the batteries to get in the right chainring to make it home when one is dead is a savior. I now carry one spare that will work on either front or rear.

Apparently it's a patent issue (lawyers, amirite?). Davide Campagnolo mentioned the design space as "paved with patents".

Yeah since they like to fall off it’s a handy feature. Besides the batteries and dropping chains SRAM is great 😂

​@@donjuandeaustria1213 yeah the patent issue is such a big thing on cycling. IIRC it's why Shimano was unable to go full wireless. Shimano also hold a shit load of patents too.😊

How many years do the patent hold ???

So you want to go 1x just for aesthetics and believe it's a good enough argument?

A 1 by set up is an abomination on a road bike, absolutely horrendous looking with a dinner plate cassette on the back but then I still ride what we used to call a mans bike, 53/39 with 23 as lowest gear on my road bike, I do have a gravel bike also but even that has a double crankset for optimal chain alignment.

@@julianmorris9951 cool story.

@@julianmorris9951 Zzzzzzzzzz...

@@julianmorris9951 And that front derailleur is not an abomination…? Also, 'a mans bike'? LOL, men who find it necessary to boast about how manly they are, are usually pretty laughable.

Unfortunately I’ve heard this is because SRAM has a patent on using the same batteries on both derailleurs

bulky = premium and classy?!

@@LRG251 🤡

Less material - cheaper and lighter

Not just the Pro's the UK TT scene has been adapting larger chainrings for improvements in efficiency for a while. Look at Sram they had to bring out larger rings for their pro's. I think it is probably due to the 'all road' phenomenon, and provides gearing to match. This leaves us amateur racers high and dry - e.g. Shimano only offer Ultegra 12spd with a max ring size of 52 which isn't great for TT's, Tri's and even some crits where a 54(+) can be useful.

Are you trying to convince someone that some cheap ass electronics is going to be servicable? Yeah sure. Good luck with that.

@@rosomak8244 I have never been a fan of electronic shifting. Sure there are benefits, but I like to be able to fix my own bikes and to troubleshoot on the road any issues. As I mentioned all Campy components of the past could all be fixed, parts replaced, etc. we will have to see the long term outcome of this shifting technology. I was real sad when Shimano no longer has mechanical systems for Ultegra and Dura Ace. Big mistake IMHO, but will have to see how the market shakes out. I am still running mechanical on my latest gravel bike, SRAM Force/Eagle GX mullet build. But I always follow Campy. If you have never ridden their past components..... lots of firsts from that company. Why they have mostly been race focused, at least they are providing options for the everyday rider as well.

He's good isn't he!

Controversial I know, but he's wrapping the tape the wrong way around imo. Wrapping the way shown means you naturally push against the feather edge of the bartape. Peculiar analogy. I know, but it's like having a fish where the scales point forward. I always start at the bar end to avoid this. I know there are others that will disagree, but it's a free country (at least for now)

It's controversial for sure. However, I've always "reverse-wrapped" my bars and I've never had any issues with it. I simply prefer the cleaner look without finishing tape. Also, I'm not a racer, so I don't put tons of pressure while sprinting etc.

I always prefer reverse wrapping. Looks cooler, it’s performance is irrelevant. And let’s be real, for us non paid pros, performance isn’t the game. It’s spending money to have a nice toy to play with when we’re off work. Even your cat 1-3 racer still has their day jobs to pay the bills.

@@FiveMinuteVelo Not controversial. The way shown is not the best way of wrapping for sure.

I love the tump shifter

Even as a long time Campy user (30 years - I have first year Ergopower on my 90's Colnago) I have to agree...

@@ianfurqueron5850 Oooh, I have a 90's Colnago too, a Tecnos, which I've got built-up with Record 10 speed. Still my favourite bike to ride!

I'm not sure many people will be using this groupset in winter !

@@leskennedy Judging by the price this is designed for the deserts where oil springs are common.

I'm going to try it as well

it's not a good way to do! It looks very good and clean, but in use you will roll the sides of the bar tape - you have to start at the bottom, though that doesn't look as clean

@@fiddleronthebike Thanks, I was told the same from multiple sources. However, I've been riding for a while (6 months) now with the "reverse" wrap method with Zipp Service Course CX bar tape and it's been working well. Love how clean it looks. I guess I don't torque against the bars as often as the hoods.

@@MazingerZX interesting! I did it many years ago with bad experience, but maybe there are tapes today which can do better with this. The look is great for sure, so I will try it again….

Thanks for ordering a t-shirt! The t-shirt orders are fulfilled by TeeSpring a company that specialises in producing t-shirt designs - delivery can sometimes be a bit slow and I imagine posting the Japan may take a bit longer. It could be worth dropping them an email just to ask how your order is proceeding. Hope it arrives soon!

Should have copied SRAM - right lever for harder- left for easier. Both to change the front. Very easy to do and no need to find the right tiny button.

Me too! 😎

I hope so too, working hard to make it happen

@@davidarthur ill be tuning in for sure!

@@charlesmansplaining they are not Made in US, and i am tired about the samelooking mass products of asia. I own a SWORKS Tarmac SL7, it‘s a fantastic bike, but the Italien job has got a Soul. I am now 58 years old, and become an old white man, maybe that’s the reason. But i totally agree with you, my other brand still will be Specialized

@@charlesmansplaining sounds like you know what you are speaking of!

Contador used to do this, claimed it gave better grip. Still as a pro it's easy to get someone else to rewrap your bars every week.

Wrapping like this will get everything (dirt, sweat) got stucked under the tape. You gonna love it 😋

​@@inthefieldunderthesky cry about it, these filante frames are some of the best most beautiful frames you can buy, the attention to detail is outstanding on these...

@@larsdohmen6796 Frameset is available to buy 👀

New groupset now comes with a supplied quick link, so no more pins needed!

@@ride247 Thanks for the detail, I assume that applies to all 12sp chains now as well. That's a small but nice improvement.

I'm still waiting for Campagnolo to send me a groupset or bike with it on to ride I'm afraid

EKAR EPS will be great as well.

@@lennartschmidt5385 was thinking the same. I'm sure it won't be too far off.

Parts from China or more precise Asia, is what you can expect. No consumer electronics is manufactured in europe or the US.

That depends on when Campagnolo decide to let me have a groupset or bike with the groupset to test. I've asked they've not replied

Shimano's newest groupsets still offer rim brakes. As for SRAM, I'm not yet sure if the Force AXS can use the Force eTap AXS's dual-control levers that's designed for mechanical brakes.

Well for about HALF you have (faster shifting) Dura Ace Di2... still not cheap but I mean... half 😂

The problem is, that cycling gained So much popularity with covid, so as long as people will keep buying these ridicolously priced bikes and parts, they will just increase price. And the other issue is, that you can't buy a bike with chinese groupset on it in normal shop, and not many people are willing to build bike themslefs.

@Alex Michl I think the hyped prices happened before Covid, but the shortages definitely made things worse. Yep though with more Chinese brands having European distributing it is only a matter of time I guess, but Currently a very niche market. I guess the selling less at a higher price has advantages, but with a shrinking middle class in many countries you wonder how sustainable that business model will be in the long run.

@@morrisizing Agreed. Chinese alternatives can't be available soon enough. Right now, it's a widespread money grab by the big players before peak cycling recedes.

@@RepsacZ Where can I get Dura Ace 9200 / 9250 DI2 for any less than 3K? Are you buying used or black market or just no idea about prices?

God damn. People in the west are so hopeless. Why can't you get some other gears for 20 times less money and some two compound adhesives to glue in an extension knob where you would like to have it done? It's about pulling a wire-line. It will function as good as anything. Get compression less cabling and pre-stretch the cables if you want to improve precision. This is far more of relevance that the levers.

… take the 45/29 crankset, i will

@@frankmeyer1865 I’ll sell you a pair of my all new, cutting edge, glass slippers to match the 45/29 chainrings. They maximise the aero gains of groupset plus rider. 50 watt saving at 15 kmp/h.

Agree Tommy,

Sounds like the very viable mod of the 11-32 Shimano cassette but swap with the Jr cassette 14T and 15T cogs from the 11T and 13T.

@@lordalfa600 hyperglide is potentially a problem, but it should probably work ok alright 😅

The 45/29 crankset when combined with the 10-29 cassette, will give a 1:1 ratio, same as Shimamo with a 34 compact and 34t cassette.

@@andrewmcalister3462 clearly, but that’s “mountain” territory… I’m talking about the everyday ride in mixed terrain… 29 IMO, is still too small if you’re running 50/34 up front… but maybe that’s just me 😅

Shimano 12 speed has an 11-36 option. That said, Campagnolo SR is still going to have 52/36 & 53/39 options in the range, albeit for mechanical. What will be interesting is whether the mech will handle 11-32 or 11.34 cassettes.....

@@andrewmcalister3462 45-29 with 10-29 is inferior to standard Shimano 50-34 with 11-34. Casette options look totally screwed.

@@Gianniz27 What's your reasoning? (Other than the inefficiency of the 10t cog). Not doubting you, genuinely curious.

No ways, reverse wrap is way more logical to install. And obvs no electrical tape to be seen for aesthetic purposes 😂

@@neilk22 it is considered unsafe

@@feedbackzaloop cant imagine why, but from my experience ive had no issues for years.

Would like to know how is it unsafe or “illegal”? Is the concern about how one might strongly grip and twist the opposite direction of the wrap direction when riding? (This concern applies equally for “traditional” wrapping methods.)

@@MazingerZX true, it's not about if you wrap clockwise or anti-, but how the seam between coils shows. With traditional wrap you slide your hand from stem towards hoods smoothly, with reverse you catch on the ridge. Must be still from the times of cotton tape, when it is unpleasant, destructive to the tape and can cause involuntary handlebar movement 🤷‍♂️ Or maybe it's just to prevent the tape sliding off alltogether like stockings without garment belt, in case it looses tension over time or gets cut in a crash...

You can bet yours ass that you will not find any replacement parts at all. This thing will be produced as a single relatively small batch in the far east. There will be no incentive to hold a sufficient inventory orto restart any production by the real manufacturer at all.

Point is, u loose in all the gears with the 45 "big" ring, what most amateurs need in mountains. Casette options are totally wrong. (10-29 max).

Because of SRAM patent.

New Campy chain. They switched from just a pin.

@@Unwavering137 I bought the chain tool a couple of years ago because I didn't think at the time, there was a quick link for Campy. I have a chorus 12 speed as well. What quick link do you use please ?

@@Unwavering137 Yeah. I never bought that tool. I've always used a $15 park tool to pop the pin in and out. Never had any problems. (*touch wood) Currently on two sets of Record 12 and have ridden Campy on and off since 9sp. I've just always been careful using standard chain tools.

@@kalanihines do you use a quick link ?

@@gregfisher216 Nah. If I remember correctly I did use one on 10sp. But, I dont plan on taking the chain off except to put a new one on so I dont really bother with it. But, if I heard correctly, KMC one works. I guess you'd want to take it off to do the wax treatment?

Thoughtful and insightful… Thank you so much for weighing in

​@@knbstonehalf, or whole brain

It does, indeed. 4.499 GBP 😢

And a lung ;)