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For the first time ever, we can increase the RAM in the original XBOX from 64MB to 256MB! That’s 4 times the original amount! This has never been done before. And previously, the maximum amount of RAM we could upgrade the XBOX to was 128MB. But now that we are able to increase the RAM to 256MB are there any improvements or increase in gaming performance? Find out in this video!
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@Galavis.
@Galavis. 18 дней назад
I prefer downloading more ram
@nunyabusiness69
@nunyabusiness69 18 дней назад
The only acceptable way
@nick-leffler
@nick-leffler 18 дней назад
Would you download a car?
@outerzevin1366
@outerzevin1366 18 дней назад
Same, but this mod will be great for people whose internet connection is too slow to download RAM efficiently!
@EnlightenAlchemist
@EnlightenAlchemist 18 дней назад
It's always better.
@dennistzortzopoulos8606
@dennistzortzopoulos8606 18 дней назад
​@@nick-leffleryep
@ErnestJay88
@ErnestJay88 18 дней назад
Upgrade the CPU Upgrade the ram i bet future video be like "Install faster GPU" in the end, modders accidentally create *Xbox 360* by upgrading original Xbox.
@NitNek_
@NitNek_ 13 дней назад
Let them cook...
@SonicBoone56
@SonicBoone56 11 дней назад
That'd require a whole different architecture lol
@ErnestJay88
@ErnestJay88 11 дней назад
@@SonicBoone56 i didn't mean "literally" but they upgrading original Xbox as powerful as X360
@kraftypk7283
@kraftypk7283 10 дней назад
​@@SonicBoone56you'll require a whole different architecture in a minute young man
@RicardoRamosRetrocomputacao
@RicardoRamosRetrocomputacao 10 дней назад
If they tinkered with the development kit that used G5 PowerMacs, I believe they could create an Xbox 360 PowerMac.
@Rexter2k
@Rexter2k 17 дней назад
I think the actual "pro" of this mod is that eventually we are gonna run out of chips to do the classic 128mb ram mod, and this is a good replacement for that eventuality.
@SoloLizzy97
@SoloLizzy97 12 дней назад
There will be broken Xbox's to take parts from for a good long while.
@TheGamersRace
@TheGamersRace 7 дней назад
I don't think that's really the point, nor a close coming problem. Compatible ram chips are most likely still in production, and are used in low power, or low capacity computational devices. That being said, adding more deditated wam for thuh swerver is always nice.
@alext3811
@alext3811 6 дней назад
@@TheGamersRace Yeah, you'd be surprised how many embedded systems are using cores based on Pentium era cores (system-on-a-chip) for things like restaurant bump bars, and PBXs (once upon a time anways.
@TheGamersRace
@TheGamersRace 6 дней назад
@@alext3811 Yeah a lot of people don’t understand that a lot of the little pieces that make up old school tech….make up new school tech too. Yesterdays bleeding edge laptop is tomorrows “bump bars” as you put it.
@fffUUUUUU
@fffUUUUUU 2 дня назад
The CCPway business model: they take free and open source PCB design like this, and then some Chinese сомм unists noname garage shop produces a ton of devices for profit
@otterpopdotorg
@otterpopdotorg 18 дней назад
I love this for the "because we can" level of upgrade.
@RicardoRamosRetrocomputacao
@RicardoRamosRetrocomputacao 10 дней назад
In 2008 a forum user upgraded to 256mb using chips from a Compaq Presario, but because comparisons between 128 and 256 showed that there were no significant gains, this was left aside. Particularly, I wish there was this modification for the Xbox 360 and PS3, they clearly suffer from the memory they have, especially the PS3. As far as I remember, there was a developer version of the x360 with 1GB of RAM, but it is extremely difficult to find, and quite expensive.
@BoDoesStuff
@BoDoesStuff 3 дня назад
Yeah, I remember when this was done on Xbox Scene. Hate seeing these fake titles.
@Nihongames
@Nihongames 18 дней назад
Well I can see some scenarios where additional RAM could theoretically help + 720p patches + PC Ports or better pc ports + Texture improvement mods in games + Emulators + Sega chihiro games
@XenonG
@XenonG 18 дней назад
Gonna need to combine a 1.4Ghz Pentium III replacement, plus the SEGA Chihiro GPU. Might as well think about a new motherboard. :P
@windowsxpnt2347
@windowsxpnt2347 18 дней назад
@@XenonG iirc the sega chihiro gpu is just the same one as an og xbox, maybe a bit higher clocked
@windowsxpnt2347
@windowsxpnt2347 18 дней назад
hopefully this can allow for i/o emulation for wangan mmt1 and 2. would be really cool to be able to finally play those games at home
@gameblabla
@gameblabla 18 дней назад
There are some games patched at 1080i (Halo 2 HD, PSO) that can still run out of memory even with 128MB ram mod. (in the case of halo, he had to dial down the texture cache size to make it work) If they can fix the memory speed issue on the original kernel, it would help us run halo 2 at 1080i better (the guy who made the patch theorized the game was possibly starved for memory bandwidth). Besides that, there's also the port of ReactOS that can benefit. I would like to see where this is going.
@SargentoDuke
@SargentoDuke 17 дней назад
128mb is enought for 720p patches, that need 900mhz at least to run... and few need 1.4ghz cpu to run. The ram is to... install a proper OPERATING SYSTEM on the Xbox making it a MODERN CONSOLE... a Dashboard that can actually act as a operating system... imagine XBox running Android by example, its possible as Android ran so well on 256mb ram phones on the past...
@thomashunt2240
@thomashunt2240 18 дней назад
That improvised heat shield was an inspired idea, reusable and simple!
@UberMicroRepairs
@UberMicroRepairs 17 дней назад
not necessary.
@UJustGotGamed
@UJustGotGamed 9 дней назад
@@UberMicroRepairs hot air can easily blow away the tiny filtering caps on the board with how little solder there is on their pads
@UberMicroRepairs
@UberMicroRepairs 9 дней назад
@@UJustGotGamed nah. Surface tension keeps them in place
@ResidentIT_
@ResidentIT_ 9 дней назад
@@UberMicroRepairs ok pal
@UJustGotGamed
@UJustGotGamed 8 дней назад
@@UberMicroRepairs to a degree but i can confirm from personal experience they don't like to hold on very well
@SocialisedMedicine
@SocialisedMedicine 18 дней назад
My gut instinct is that the stability issues are due to the interposer increasing the length of the PCB traces. I know from personal experience that one traces being just one or two mm longer can cause errors in signaling, even at the slower speeds that these old devices run at. Also this is even more obscure, but changing the width of the traces can cause weirdness with signal reflection. If the interposer uses thinner traces and doesn't perfectly length match them then that's my bet for the core problem.
@talibong9518
@talibong9518 18 дней назад
I'd say it's more likely just a faulty chip or a little extra voltage is needed
@mikeyjnz
@mikeyjnz 17 дней назад
I don't know if it was still a thing in the celeron era the Xbox was built on, but older PC's if you wanted to go above a certain threshold of ram, it'd actually run slower if you didn't have an equivalent increase in the CPU cache memory that stored the increased address range of the system ram. Given the whole point of celerons was same MHz with less caching for cheaper, if this was paired with the CPU upgrade mod, would that unlock the proper speed and reliability of the extra megabytes?
@TheGamersRace
@TheGamersRace 7 дней назад
I'd say that is most likely the least problematic issue here.
@sedrosken831
@sedrosken831 2 дня назад
@@mikeyjnz You're misunderstanding that concept -- that was an issue primarily with motherboard-resident cache controlled by the system chipset, lasting from the 386 era on up to the Pentium MMX for Intel, and the K6-2/III for AMD. It wasn't necessarily the cache size in and of itself but rather the Tag RAM. Once we kicked over to CPU-resident L2 cache, like on the K6-2+ and III+, every Athlon, the Pentium Pro and onward, that issue either became much less prevalent (in the case of the K6 line) or disappeared entirely. In short, you can throw as much RAM at that thing as the chipset will address and there will be no slowdown.
@W2wxftcxxtcrw
@W2wxftcxxtcrw День назад
You’re saying there not impedance matched but I doubt it matters that much here.
@RedBeardedGriffUK
@RedBeardedGriffUK 18 дней назад
It would be interesting to see how well Half-Life 2 performs with the additional RAM
@pavma7
@pavma7 18 дней назад
And StarCraft Ghost
@UserX-02
@UserX-02 18 дней назад
True
@blitzerblazinoah6838
@blitzerblazinoah6838 18 дней назад
Doom 3 as well.
@johnbrooks6243
@johnbrooks6243 18 дней назад
R they coded to take advantage of more available ram?
@misterjeffa2128
@misterjeffa2128 18 дней назад
Likely no change as they dont expect the increased amounts and look for the stock amount only.
@amshermansen
@amshermansen 18 дней назад
Gotta appreciate the continued efforts to refuse to let this console die. The chips should come pre-bent though imo. Just to ensure a safe and consistent install.
@michelvanbriemen3459
@michelvanbriemen3459 16 дней назад
I like that the Xbox is becoming the Amiga of consoles. Neverending performance upgrades that don't have an immediate application, CPU upgrades / accelerators, memory expansions that weren't possible when the machine was new, it's fantastic.
@KennyPham
@KennyPham 18 дней назад
This and the pentium 3 upgrade are crazy advances for the xbox modding scene.
@Ichijoe2112
@Ichijoe2112 18 дней назад
And, almost as old now too.
@fenriswolfretro6729
@fenriswolfretro6729 18 дней назад
Where this modification will really shine is in improving the performance of current emulators that run on the original xbox. More RAM = more space to load ROMs into for a smoother performance. But they would have to each be modified to take advantage of the extra RAM.
@ThexthSurvivor
@ThexthSurvivor 17 дней назад
I was about to comment the same thing. 👍
@SargentoDuke
@SargentoDuke 17 дней назад
@@fenriswolfretro6729 with more ram you can use HD TEXTURES on HalfLife2 at 720p ok the original Xbox... Or increase the VIEW DISTANCE on games like Morrowind, making the xbox looks like a 360 in graphics.
@weinerschnitzel7
@weinerschnitzel7 17 дней назад
There is no point. We already have a hard disk and have been using it for ROM paging for years.
@juanmillas665
@juanmillas665 17 дней назад
i want Mame on OG xbox for 3d games like Street fighter EX And more acurate speed emulation on Neo Geo
@qsxmirage7274
@qsxmirage7274 17 дней назад
Real ram chips will always be faster than virtual memory management ​@@weinerschnitzel7
18 дней назад
I legit misheard "Prehistoricman" to "PrehistoricNAND"
@ChrisEbz
@ChrisEbz 18 дней назад
I thought it was prehistoricman until I read this 😂
@0JayDoubleU
@0JayDoubleU 17 дней назад
😂😂😂 i like "Nand" a lot more
@LenoxFilms
@LenoxFilms 17 дней назад
PrehistoricRAM
@WayStedYou
@WayStedYou 8 дней назад
Both are accurate at this rate
@ianray9137
@ianray9137 17 дней назад
Could you imagine the possibilities with a 1.4ghz processor upgrade and 256mb of ram on an original xbox? Holy smokes! I bet if there was a proper bios for something like that, it would be able to do alot more.
@ETERNAL_MODS
@ETERNAL_MODS 16 дней назад
Exactly because the stock cpu is 700mhz with 128mb cache and the tualatin 1.1 to 1.4 are 512k cache and faster speed. A faster ram like that could help emulators for shure :p
@edale2
@edale2 18 дней назад
The thing to do here is to start with 2 working unmodded original Xboxes. Take the RAM chips out of one, and put them in the other, making that one a 128 MB mod; then put these chips in the other Xbox, making it a 256 MB mod. No waste.
@England91
@England91 5 дней назад
You mean like stacking them on top of each other??
@edale2
@edale2 5 дней назад
@@England91 that's actual the method on a v1.6 motherboard, but on v1.0-1.5 motherboards there are 4 unpopulated sets of RAM solder pads, you just need to solder the 4 RAM chips from the donor board into those 4 slots to do the 128 MB RAM upgrade. After that it's just a matter of having firmware capable of utilizing the RAM.
@fadingbeleifs
@fadingbeleifs День назад
Why?? You can get brand new RAM chips for it today!
@edale2
@edale2 День назад
@@fadingbeleifs For if you're like me and have 8 spare Xboxes sitting on a shelf, lol.
@official_kex
@official_kex 18 дней назад
Why would anyone upgrade the RAM of their original XBOX if it has no use? *BECAUSE THEY FKIN CAN* - And i think thats amazing
@JoshLineberry
@JoshLineberry 18 дней назад
256mb of ram would actually be so amazing for me! It's something I've been wanting for a long time!
@another3997
@another3997 17 дней назад
Amazing? Yes. Practical? Not really. Dangerous to the health of your Xbox? Possibly. I mean, I can chop my hand off if I want to... but just because I can, doesn't mean it's a good idea. 😂
@BlueEyedVibeChecker
@BlueEyedVibeChecker 17 дней назад
@another3997 It may be a good idea if you're hungry. You may be out of food, but you're not out of options.
@shmapple29
@shmapple29 17 часов назад
@@another3997it’s a step forward is how I look at it eventually we might find a way on some consoles to upgrade hardware and keep the functionality at better frame rates and or resolutions
@trogdo0r179
@trogdo0r179 18 дней назад
As you were bending the pins, I was like oh this is not good.
@m3rkinfiniteofwgkta
@m3rkinfiniteofwgkta 18 дней назад
I like the videos, but every time I look into doing any mod myself the parts aren't being sold anymore.
@brandogg
@brandogg 18 дней назад
Maybe if this mod came out 20 years ago it would have some real potential, at least for making a better homebrew/media center Xbox, but can't imagine any developers doing anything with this in 2024.
@Ichijoe2112
@Ichijoe2112 18 дней назад
It did, right along with the 1.3Ghz PIII mod. The difference was you either scraped the Chips of a doner board, or you bought a batch of 'em to do it. Problem is after Twenty Years of NON PRODUCTION, supply finally went the way of the Dodo as they say. This update (To that Mod), address that last issue. As to what you'd use it for? That would likely. Be one of two things Sega Chihiro (i.e. Virtual Cop), or a full XBOX SDK environment. Again. Same today, as it was Twenty years ago.
@Puretea4711
@Puretea4711 18 дней назад
true... the box is dead af.... also the mod szene for the og box
@Wobble2007
@Wobble2007 18 дней назад
You don't like the idea of using the Xbox as a classic Win98 & DOS PC?, I do, got to say, being able to just plug in an Xbox to my VGA monitor or CRT TV and firing up my favourite late 90s PC games sounds incredible, setting up a Win98 PC can be a little tedious, both from a hardware and software point of view, the OGXBOX literally has everything under the hood for complete 80s through to 2003 PC support, imagine not having to mess with drivers and settings, and turning retro PC gaming into a plug & play console experience, yes please on that for me, even Amiga OS could be run complete with MIDI and soundbanks audio compatibility.
@afewspokesloose2699
@afewspokesloose2699 18 дней назад
​@@Wobble2007 That sounds interesting. Has there been developments ademend stuff like Dosbox to utilise the memory?
@marcelosoares7148
@marcelosoares7148 18 дней назад
​@@Wobble2007Can you do a dual boot setup with that? Like switching freely between the Xbox retail mode and the "PC mode".
@F1dude.
@F1dude. 18 дней назад
Damn. I really want an og xbox. Maybe sometime in the future
@FoxUnitNell
@FoxUnitNell 18 дней назад
Their clear green xboxes were very cool, really the most appealing console at launch considering it was playing pc games that needed systems that cost three times as much as an xbox.
@0JayDoubleU
@0JayDoubleU 18 дней назад
Ive been seeing the prices slowly rising these past couple years. Id say the sooner the better
@garystinten9339
@garystinten9339 18 дней назад
​@@0JayDoubleUAgreed.. even a basic model would be ideal..
@0JayDoubleU
@0JayDoubleU 17 дней назад
@@garystinten9339 absolutely. Especially since they have a fairly easy maintainance and easy to mod if u wish
@kenabi
@kenabi 17 дней назад
i've got 3 of them i want to do all these mods to, but they keep adding to the list. the fiends. making them obsolete before i can even get them.
@tigheklory
@tigheklory 18 дней назад
Awesome video Tito! New out a 1.2 Ghz CPU upgrade in it too!
@David-gr8rh
@David-gr8rh 18 дней назад
Don't you mean 1.4ghz
@SargentoDuke
@SargentoDuke 17 дней назад
@@David-gr8rh 1.233 pentium 3 or 1.3ghz Celeron tualatins are way cheaper than the 1.4-1.5ghz ones.
@alanbenson1505
@alanbenson1505 17 дней назад
Thank you for this video. I am going to dust off my Crystal Xbox and do this at some point. At around the 9:00 mark. If you prep the motherboard pads with a thin coat of solder before tacking the chip, the chip installation will go easier. I would have prepped the pads, added more flux, then tacked a few pins as you did. I would hot air this into place only because I have a board pre-heater. I get why you did it how you did. I'd have drag-soldered it too without a board heater , just with the pad prep steps I mentioned earlier. Great job all round. Subbed! For context, micro-soldering has been my job since 1989. PS. My Crystal Xbox is my Guinea pig machine. Anything that proves good on that makes it's way into my green machine..
@kirahirosho363
@kirahirosho363 2 дня назад
I forget the guy but he installed a 1.4ghz P3 from a rack mount server onto the board youtube channel Retro Renegade Repairs
@SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim
@SDRIFTERAbdlmounaim 17 дней назад
This would of been a cool *256K subscribers special* if you had waited just a day or two ❤
@DannyTan6675
@DannyTan6675 17 дней назад
Having two games run at the same time would be useful for a quick resume fucntion, while the suspended game can be partially unloaded to allow for the main game to take up more resources, having a quick resume function would allow you to swap between games quickly. Not very useful in practice, but a neat function all the same.
@GameSack
@GameSack 17 дней назад
One game I know of that runs into RAM limitations is Out Run 2... the first one, not Coast 2 Coast. There's a certain hill in one stage that can get a little juddery when you go over it and it lasts maybe a second. At least I'm assuming it's main RAM since it was originally made for the Xbox arcade hardware... not sure if there were any GPU or VRAM differences in that. Of course the game would likely have to be hacked to take advantage of any extra memory. BTW was the Xbox outputting at 8K in your video? Or was it just playing an 8K file downscaled internally to 480p or whatever?
@AcuardThe3rd
@AcuardThe3rd 18 дней назад
Wouldn't this be a good alternative to do the 128 MB RAM upgrades for Xboxes that are 1.6 motherboards? Since they only have four slots because this would work better versus trying to double stack RAM?
@JoshLineberry
@JoshLineberry 18 дней назад
If this would alow us to do 128mb on 1.6s with 4 regular chips that would be amazing!
@Innumerical_
@Innumerical_ 18 дней назад
a 3D printed template of some sort for bending the pins would be cool. Create mounting holes on the PCB that lock in to pins on the template. The template would have beveled edges to press the "legs" onto with a length of firm plastic.
@x66Hawk66x
@x66Hawk66x 18 дней назад
This is pretty cool, one thing is for worth thinking about, it could open up allot of possibility's for the home brew community with PC ports ETC. I will probably stick with my 128mb build for the foreseeable future, but I will be keeping a close eye on this project. I know JCRocky5 has been moving in this direction with his softmod, I think he has even considered 512mb support. It's crazy that even after this console has past the 2 decade mark, it still has such an active community.
@fffUUUUUU
@fffUUUUUU 2 дня назад
The CCPway business model: they take free and open source PCB design like this, and then some Chinese сомм unists noname garage shop produces a ton of devices for profit
@prototype_pandad6536
@prototype_pandad6536 18 дней назад
well i dont think ive clicked on a video so fast. I freaking love this channel
@alexgonzales89
@alexgonzales89 17 дней назад
This is what the scene is all about doing mods with less the stellar results to hopefully one day be stellar results lmao
@DaiAtlus79
@DaiAtlus79 18 дней назад
i would love to see someone like Modern Vintage Gamer chime in on things dealing with this ram, as he wrote the N64 emulator and some others on the Xbox, and the ram could be put to better use as shared VRAM with a rewritten BIOS and Kernel ie not just replacing a dashboard, but rewriting the implementation of binary executables like heavier emulators and DosBox or other ways to run things on it, like say a VM environment to let one boot OLDER operating systems like Windows 98 so one could run older PC games with the addition of a Keyboard and Mouse. Linux would be easy, as one could simply port a low-footprint distro like a 32 bit Puppy Linux version but built with modern 32 bit packages from Debian, for example. You could make it into a server for things like Insignia, with the extra ram being there to host other players on private games. Im suspecting with how the performance with the 8k video that cut to 1/4 ie 1080p one could possibly get the hardware to run that level of video using the extra memory as Vram. As well, Texture upgrade packs and upscaled ports could also be a thing, BUT pair this upgrade with a better CPU like the upgrades that can be done now to double that CPU speed and you could really have something there!!!
@Moved2Rumble
@Moved2Rumble 17 дней назад
You can already boot Windows 98 on the Original XBOX, naturally the additional memory would help, especially when running other applications.
@garystinten9339
@garystinten9339 18 дней назад
Hoping this sparks some interest back into the modding scene to have someone patch software to add an option to tweak variable ram usage so the system itself can determine (equivalent of adjustable bar like more modern pc systems today) the ideal amount of ram as well as manual slider option for tweakers to get the ultimate setup.
@vas729
@vas729 15 дней назад
Tito is the Mr. Rogers of the modding scene and I am here for it!
@LDCoronel1
@LDCoronel1 18 дней назад
In fact the interposer pins should be shorter than the original 2001 ram chips. That allows to solder the pins without the need to bend them too much or the interposer could be designed with the pins on the pcb and that could help to solder on a 90° inclination
@hongosorongo
@hongosorongo 18 дней назад
Amazing video as always! Along with the ModXO modchip this is probably the best modded XBox on earth. The only thing missing would be the replacement of the processor for the 1GHz that Retro Renegade Repairs made. Great content Tito!
@ffviifakeremake9997
@ffviifakeremake9997 18 дней назад
All we have to do now is put a PCI slot in and replace the Processor and we have the most powerful Xbox ever modded 🤣
@nekomasteryoutube3232
@nekomasteryoutube3232 18 дней назад
@@ffviifakeremake9997 imagine if we could tap into the motherboards chipset to add another IDE channel so that the DVD drive and Hard Disk can be ont heir own IDE controllers (and allow SSD upgrades to run at full speed while the DVD drive is being accessed) Also PCI would be interesting but I doubt that could be done like my idea for another IDE Controler
@hongosorongo
@hongosorongo 18 дней назад
@@nekomasteryoutube3232 You never know man... Most of these mods were just a dream at some point and look how far the modding scene has gone. Maybe it's a matter of time? *crossing fingers*
@Urist_Mythrilforged
@Urist_Mythrilforged 18 дней назад
Throw in an HDMI mod and it gets better.
@talibong9518
@talibong9518 18 дней назад
Or make a custom mobo with a SATA controller so we can use XB1 BluRay drives
@spragzpc1
@spragzpc1 2 дня назад
Can't wait to see where this ram mod takes us in the future
@mattliston1215
@mattliston1215 18 дней назад
this opens the door up to kickass Morrowind modding. Between cpu upgrades, the ability to overclock the front bus (which got several of my OG's to over 800mhz), and the large amount of ram, homebrew just got a kick in the ass to pave the way to more fun weekends!!
@gabrielbraga7670
@gabrielbraga7670 17 дней назад
This mod could really help emulators specially N64, if i remember correctly there is a memory problem when cartridge games are to big for 64mb so the emulator store some files in the HDD slowering the overal performance.
@dakotart1984
@dakotart1984 17 дней назад
Using a modified xblast chip would allow you to test each memory module one at a time installing it. Refer to Modzville's xblast videos. Popping all 4 chips off and roux chambeau'ing the install of 8 and assuming you'd get them right on the first shot is ambitious. What should be done is remove each stock chip one at a time testing functionality of each in xblast. Replacing them in order, then proceeding to the empty slots. Another thing not covered was emulation and 3rd party software. This is known to have significant performance leaps with a 128mb console. Its also worth noting that module stacking has existed.
@WeanaBala
@WeanaBala Час назад
your content is a perfect mix of informative and mesmerizing! ✨
@Em.P14
@Em.P14 3 дня назад
i am astonished that this works from both hardware and software standpoints
@technocolossus7763
@technocolossus7763 18 дней назад
Impractical, but why am I tempted to do it all the same? Who can I tell to shut up and take my money?
@Wally17.
@Wally17. 17 дней назад
Yeah, me too.
@Sun-ut9gr
@Sun-ut9gr 17 дней назад
Been thinking about this a bit lol. Using flat flex like that is not ideal. I'd suggest castellated terminations for the next interposer revision. The connections would be more secure and the extra real estate can be used to address some of the issues regarding the RAM timings!
@jdownj
@jdownj 12 дней назад
The issue is that none of the accessible PCB manufacturers will do castellated edges on such a fine pitch… hence the hack
@Sun-ut9gr
@Sun-ut9gr 12 дней назад
@@jdownj That very well could be a problem. I know it's possible because I've seen fine pitch castellations, but they were on ITAR regulated assemblies.
@jdownj
@jdownj 12 дней назад
@@Sun-ut9gr that brings up an interesting point. I have no idea if PCB technology is regulated in any way… BUT the board manufacturers that can work down to that small are probably busy doing stuff that is more profitable for them than a hobbyist project like this…
@exnihilo1910
@exnihilo1910 18 дней назад
Man, I will never get tired of the console animations in your videos. As always the rest of the video is great but the animations... Wow!
@rv_jumpshotz1139
@rv_jumpshotz1139 17 дней назад
I’m so happy to see the scene still thriving! Long live the greatest modded console
@DavitTheCore
@DavitTheCore 18 дней назад
Damn Half Life 2 might have benefitted from more RAM. Well, a Pentium 3 would be the actual upgrade that would make Half Life 2 work very well.
@SargentoDuke
@SargentoDuke 17 дней назад
@@DavitTheCore you can overclock every original Xbox to 900mhz fsb 133 to 166 the max of the XBOX Nforce2 chip, and HalfLife2 runs flawless even in 720p with 128mb ram... But with 256mb you can USE HD TEXTURES on HalfLife2 like the PC... the only that the XBOX port lacks, it uses SD textures because of the low ram.
@DavitTheCore
@DavitTheCore 17 дней назад
@@SargentoDuke I guess that could very well work! I'm not sure the end result would be as good as a Pentium 3 modded Xbox (just like shown by modern vintage gamer).
@SargentoDuke
@SargentoDuke 16 дней назад
@@DavitTheCore Xbox had a way better Motherboard than a pentiumIII and way better optimized software
@chasefournier
@chasefournier 18 дней назад
The PCB design is really nice! Would be really cool if you could add higher storage ram modules. Like a 512mb chip to the PCB. End up with 4gb of RAM haha
@hexidev
@hexidev 18 дней назад
Doesnt have the same architecture so it wont work...
@auugh64
@auugh64 18 дней назад
i enjoy your videos man
@dinosqautch6941
@dinosqautch6941 18 дней назад
I’d never try this mod. But I love stuff like this great video man!
@KenjiiD
@KenjiiD 18 дней назад
Think this is the earliest I've ever caught a video after upload😂
@UserX-02
@UserX-02 18 дней назад
What could an Xbox do with such memory
@SILVRXIII
@SILVRXIII 18 дней назад
Finish the video
@R3TR0--93
@R3TR0--93 18 дней назад
my taxes?
@thecircuitbox
@thecircuitbox 18 дней назад
Nothing, literally.
@saddlesore_adventures
@saddlesore_adventures 18 дней назад
Nothing useful. Each home-brew app, each game must be modified to utilize additional RAM. As there are no devs working on software patches and the mod itself is not trivial, it will never gain meaningful user-base. One day you may see some random game patched, or some app with 256mb support released, but that's it.
@pavma7
@pavma7 18 дней назад
Run StarCraft Ghost
@ffviifakeremake9997
@ffviifakeremake9997 18 дней назад
This is so interesting, your last video on the Raspberry Pi Pico blow my mind. Which Raspberry Pi Pico should I pick up to mod the original Xbox? I've seen one called the Raspberry Pi Pico W and I'd like to see more Raspberry Pi modding in the future 👍
@jooei2810
@jooei2810 3 дня назад
That is some nice soldering action!
@vguyver2
@vguyver2 18 дней назад
So we have a mod now for both a faster processer and more Ram for less faster loading and less crashes. Just something as a console gamer that throws me off since I am very old school.
@AmaroqStarwind
@AmaroqStarwind 18 дней назад
We have CPU upgrades, we have RAM upgrades, we have DVD ROM upgrades, and we have SSD mods… Now we just need a GPU upgrade.
@talibong9518
@talibong9518 18 дней назад
At this point we might as well go all in with a custom mobo running a modded Xbox BIOS. There must be a surplus of older CPUs and GPUs out there with similar architectures like Core2Duo and certain Nvidia GPUs that we could plop onto said board with a skt775 DDR2 memory controller and a GB or 2 of RAM
@Ichijoe2112
@Ichijoe2112 18 дней назад
That would probably do more for Ops 1fps YooTube at 8k woes. Least we forget the XBOX basically had a gForce 2GTS Chip inside it. Which was already old by the time they put it there.
@8bitnation419
@8bitnation419 18 дней назад
RTX 4090
@u263a3
@u263a3 18 дней назад
@@AmaroqStarwind might as well buy a new PC
@Wobble2007
@Wobble2007 18 дней назад
@@Ichijoe2112 The NV2A is basically a GeForce 3.5, closer to a GF4 which is a powerful GPU relative to its generation, it is more than enough for games of that era, especially considering that GPU was designed with 1024x768p to 1280x960p in mind, and the OGXB only needs to render @ 240p-480p, add to that almost zero OS overheads, fixed hardware optimizations and the bare-metal API, you could say it squeezes at least 50% more performance vs its desktop equivalent. It's just starved of RAM, unfortunately.
@hiRyan329329
@hiRyan329329 17 дней назад
I remember people doing this a few years back by stacking the original ram modules on top of each other, so even this is a far easier install comparatively. Would love to see where this project ends up once a bios is built to really utilize it as well as some game mods to hopefully make use of it
@icedlottie
@icedlottie 14 дней назад
always love to see your vids on new life being brought to the xbox... ive been a fiend for the xbox since 2002 and still play on my childhood 1.0 model regularly! ive even opened it up a few times to fix the dvd drive and replace that pesky clock cap...... keep up the good work!!!
@brode562
@brode562 18 дней назад
almost 20 minute video and you're not gonna show any games running with the ram upgrade? not gonna show 720p video playing on it at full speed? what a waste of time.
@joshsimpson1739
@joshsimpson1739 18 дней назад
😊😊
@NotTheRealBBC
@NotTheRealBBC 17 дней назад
Agreed. A lot of fluff dressed up nice
@SargentoDuke
@SargentoDuke 17 дней назад
720p needs a CPU upgrade to run... or overclock the stock CPU to 900mhz, or change the CPU to 1ghz or more with a 370 interpoder, that is WAY MORE COMPLICATED THAN THIS RAM UPGRADE, having a new ram modules that are DDR2 adapted for the original xbox is awesome, as its a "new part" not like the CPU that are "limited old hardware". Anyway, all XBOX can run at 900mhz even 1ghz from stock, overclocking by software. There are no patches for use that ram, but for example games like MORROWIND you can use 256mb de ram to increase the VIEW DISTANCE.
@doodlebroSH
@doodlebroSH 18 дней назад
Recommend spending a little more time finding an actual use case to demo this. Playing an 8K video is an utterly useless benchmark.
@another3997
@another3997 17 дней назад
Which is exactly what he said in the video... but he also said, there's nothing that can take advantage of the extra RAM at this time. I guess listening and comprehension aren't your strong points. 😆
@sethinneon
@sethinneon 17 дней назад
Watching someone with this level of soldering skill is mesmerizing
@TheLegendryZelda
@TheLegendryZelda 18 дней назад
Not being individual pins I think it helps a whole lot better to bend them all at once and it does looks more modern
@alectrona6400
@alectrona6400 18 дней назад
5 views in one minute? bro fell off
@notimportant3033
@notimportant3033 18 дней назад
3 likes in 3 minutes? Blud fell off
@Maximus20778
@Maximus20778 18 дней назад
Why so toxic
@alectrona6400
@alectrona6400 18 дней назад
@@Maximus20778 it's a joke :/
@BawkBawkBawk666
@BawkBawkBawk666 2 дня назад
As someone of whom the art of soldering is lost upon, you sure did make the process look easy.
@TheMavastone
@TheMavastone 18 дней назад
Thanks for this information:)
@SonicBoone56
@SonicBoone56 11 дней назад
God, the OG Xbox community has never stopped progressing at all. Never died, never slumped. I wish I could say the same for other beloved consoles, but truthfully most console scenes go dead for awhile, like the PS3 community currently. And some consoles have yet to have a vibrant homebrew and modding community, like fact the Neo Geo Pocket Color has no modding or homebrew development aside from IPS and flash cart mods. Makes me wonder what exactly keeps the OG Xbox community still thriving.
@mirrakirra
@mirrakirra 2 дня назад
Pretty sure this has been done before, but it's still rare and difficult. Good job accomplishing this.
@itchyisvegeta
@itchyisvegeta 17 дней назад
Wow, this is an amazing mod. Can't wait to see what else comes of it.
@ZeroX252
@ZeroX252 18 дней назад
It seems like a 3d-printed jig for bending the interposers gently and evenly could also prevent the issue. I do wonder if just making the interposer a flex PCB instead of a solid PCB wouldn't also work though.
@secondleasegamer8312
@secondleasegamer8312 День назад
Time to do an Ultimate Xbox with 256mb RAM Overclocked with a 1.4ghz CPU and a 1tb SSD + CFW, oh and that new HDMI Mod.
@emagid3599
@emagid3599 16 дней назад
Great watch as always. Hope you will consider doing a video on the new Benn Venn GGHD IPS screen. I would like to see your perspective on this new version compared to the older GG IPS screen from a few years back.
@sharoyveduchi
@sharoyveduchi 15 дней назад
ReactOS can run on the original Xbox. 256MB of RAM is more than enough for a normal ReactOS install on a normal PC. If ReactOS got further support, it could eventually be an option for treating your Xbox like a Windows XP PC
@realdragonrude
@realdragonrude 18 дней назад
It's always cool to see people finding something new with og xbox when you think everythings been done Seamus Blackley is smiling right now
@rtbear674
@rtbear674 14 дней назад
I upgraded the hardware so it uses nvidia rtx 4080, 64gb ram, nvme ssd, now it run windows too, then can play xbox games.
@bkims
@bkims 4 дня назад
These interposers are quite cool and definitely have applications outside of xbox upgrades. Many retro devices using that the SGram or SDram package type could possibly take advantage of them. Retro graphics cards for example.
@amy-295
@amy-295 3 дня назад
There's so many interesting videos at 3am lol
@snoochpounder
@snoochpounder 17 дней назад
That’s what makes a true master. Not being afraid to ask for help albeit being an expert oneself.
@Alex13mod
@Alex13mod 17 дней назад
another great video brother!
@Sun-ut9gr
@Sun-ut9gr 18 дней назад
Might want to stake those modules down with some silastic/RTV or even some hot glue after verifying they work. As far as the stability issues, it could also be the mapping of the traces on the interposer itself. More testing would be needed to figure it out. This is an awesome project though. Amazing work!
@H20-Water-Pro-LLC
@H20-Water-Pro-LLC 10 дней назад
A real cool mod that doesn't do much of anything. Bummer... great job on the sweet work!
@luislanga
@luislanga 10 дней назад
This dude can solder
@MrGarryGrey
@MrGarryGrey 17 дней назад
I've seen similar mod for Switch. Soldering new NAND and RAM chips, which actually affects game performance and useful in other OS's and emulators it can run. Insanely difficult as chips are way smaller, but super impressive.
@bnbnism
@bnbnism 18 дней назад
Itd be interesting to see how this could affect a game like Morrowind which is notorious for its memory issue on the original Xbox which caused them to have to restart the system between load screens to fix the issue.
@kevrosbane
@kevrosbane 16 дней назад
this isn't the first 256 mod u could place 16 chips on top of each other, but i am glad to see this as its a more fordable and less hassle way to do upgrades these days.
@107bande
@107bande 14 дней назад
Now that the 1GHz CPU Upgrade and the HDMI mod and we got a perfect Xbox
@dmxdxl
@dmxdxl 17 дней назад
Damn, I watched this video and saw your sub count is at 255K, woulda been truly insane if it was magically at 256K for this video, like poetic almost haha, oh well!!...
@RavenShinyThings
@RavenShinyThings 17 дней назад
Getting a memory upgrade on the Xbox 360 that is utilised would be an amazing mod along side harddrive installed games.
@Thewickedjon
@Thewickedjon 18 дней назад
tito uploaded a new video? 0k, time for my weekly therapeutic session.
@gummy1204
@gummy1204 15 дней назад
Instead of rigid flex, you may be able to use castellated edges as the connection. This would completely solve the bend problem and make the mfr process cheaper.
@juninhosa4260
@juninhosa4260 17 дней назад
Great idea! Keep going !!
@Mobik_
@Mobik_ 18 дней назад
Now THAT is a Expansion Pak
@knuckles31312
@knuckles31312 18 дней назад
Wow I get to watch this one within an hour of posting!! Hellyeah!
@BrentBlueAllen
@BrentBlueAllen 2 дня назад
The rigid-flex interposer is an interesting solution. I would've assumed castellated pins would've been the ideal solution, but I suppose the original footprint's pin pitch might be a little too fine for that.
@CrimsonSteelMoonTheWolf64
@CrimsonSteelMoonTheWolf64 День назад
I love to see a homebrew game/demo built from the ground up that takes advantage of the 256 MB and a cpu upgrade
@chriskalkman3815
@chriskalkman3815 16 дней назад
This will be good for people who just need replacement RAM chips.
@jart122
@jart122 18 дней назад
You should get a tip that looks like an exacto knife for your soldering iron. Is easier to solder on the type of soldering that you are doing.
@Dekerus
@Dekerus 18 дней назад
Dude, you have the best intro music on RU-vid. Just my opinion. ❤
@ScientificZoom
@ScientificZoom 15 дней назад
Ok, taking old bios into modern one would be interesting 🎉, though I very much appreciated the efforts
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