NEW COMMANDER REWORK UPDATE IS HERE! & REMOVED JOHN VOICES | TDS UPDATE (Roblox) 

edit not all commander skin have custom APC just some of them for now i guess...

Darn, the commander got nerfed, especially with the call to arms ability... which makes sense because he no longer screams as much, therefore less fighting spirit

Commander rework ❌ Commander Nerf ✅

2:14 heres your answer: They did-... We did.

Greatly reduced the distance from the commander

No more John😢

no idea why tds receives so much undeserved hate nowadays. the updates are so high quality now when compared to even a year ago. they "nerfed" commander because they are trying to make the game less reliant on commander and dj (dj rework???). right now, dj and commander are required in 99% of loadouts, taking up two out of five spots right there and then. i think that this approach can greatly benefit the game as they are working on reworking old outdated towers and adding new unique ones as well. i think tds' future is quite bright and can't wait for what's next! (brawler tower tomorrow lets goooo! 💪)

there is no way they gave lead detection and more dmg to a purely support tower 💀

so basically they're helping tdx overtake tds like fr, why on earth would they remove the most iconic sound in the game and nerf a tower where everything else is balanced around? It makes absolutely 0 sense and the range decrease is just insane. 14 range at max is absurdly low for a support tower. Devs will fr do EVERYTHING but rework hardcore

I am all for seeing where they will take this new commander capabilities (if there are any) also wow you uploaded this video quickly

they really hate john now 😭

the last think of jonh is only a skin 😭😭

Old one sounded like he had a fighting spirit Now he sounds like a anime protagonist. ghost commander is still cool though

The amount of strats that has been affected so far is crazy 😭

They don't need to rework it tbh, as commander is perfect the way it is. Just remodel them and their animation is enough. Edit: now that I think about it, the rework is okay, I love APC :3

this reminds me of those nutshell videos that were popular during frost invasion specifically one with all the towers having abilities which actually seems to be happening

they violated my boy commander😭😭

0:05 I love how you specifically said lucille lol

Commander its overall got nerfed on most important think.

2:10 you can spam apc selling commander and placing it at max lvl, if you have the money though

I feel like spamming commander as both support and baits is more important than getting a placement limit with APC. Feels like the placement limit should be more, or they can find a way to stop players from using APC in more than 3 commanders

I just know wikia is cooking an 8 minute video about this

The aco kinda looks like the top path of armored factory in tdx. Nice

Frankly all it needs is a range buff, and it will be a bit better. And it also looks like the APCs will need a damage or health upgrade.

I'm glad we have 3 as the max amount of commanders so we can still chain them instead of only having 1 commander destroying a lot of strats

No way that they bring out tower battle commander 🔥🔥🔥

I need to be careful then since it has a placement limit of 3 then no more emergency commander I useally place 3 but sometimes 4 the 4th one is the emergency because if I use 2 call of arms at the same time it would risk my game and turn it into a lost. The placement limit should be 4 instead. Plus mix those tanks with military base that would make a great military convoy.

I do like the new voiceline but the John voice would forever be in our hearts Sounds something like what a space marine captain would say Most definitely a Black Templar or an Iron Hand or some other chapter, I don’t know of.

Commander has some good reworks. Despite the nerfs in terms of range and fire rate debuff. He is still a good support tower now that he has all the detections like the Engineer. He is a good addition in the Engineer's Family and he will be useful in Hardcore, and in Pizza Party and other event maps when it comes to Flying, Hidden, and Lead combined into one with its buffed damage. Hence i love it! ❤️ Just need to use him carefully in diff scenarios

Oh no it can't be. They got rid of one of the last iconic things in tds. The John commander voice lines

Crazy how this is exactly what John said he was gonna do with the commander a couple months ago

looks like I can no longer beat fallen or hardcore now cause I can’t spam 7 commanders next to my accelerators SO THIS UPDATES AMAZING!

Say goodbye to commander chaining guys

I have predicted it. a lot of strats are going to break right now.

I feel like the new ability was a little much nice remodel I just don’t feel like it was needed it was already a good enough model as it was although it still looks a lot better

They made commander from being best tower to just be a mid spawner

Ngl, the new commander voice lines are very well done. But make a another skin like classic skin to have john's voice line

the devs did such an amazing job with the remodel. props to the 3d artists

it’s now further from being a commander

R.I.P John... you will be mis- STRENGTH IN NUMBERS!! - seriously I was in the middle of my dramatic line...

Imagine an armored apc get destroyed by a single big zombie

after looking at all the skins I have, it looks like the only commander skins that had a major rework are the one that are "Still obtainable" Eclipse Commander looks about the same (it even has the wooden stool) same with the Holiday commander, and bloxy commander, and according to the discord Springtime commander is just straight out broken. I do not own, Ghost, Gargoyle, and bunny, but if my theory is correct, wouldn't be surprised if those skins are also not redesigned.

Bro....... That's tower battles commander

With johns voice lines being retired, i fell like this represents john leaving tds and moving on to his own game tdx (I could be wrong)

I love how an apc is weaker than a swat van

isn’t this tdx ideas? Nah this is starting to get sussy with the commander spawning apc cars when that was tdx idea with tb

"heres three useless tanks and skin reworks to take your mind off the fact we nerfed the hell out of commander"

they need to make APC's skins for umbra commander. i wonder how it will look like....

Commander scream feel like gladiator voice but not been edited (or it actually gladiator voice but been edited)

Good thing they did rework commander and its stats and am pretty much fine with this new voice actor.

BET dj is gonna have dance stunning ability

The vehicles health kinda suck because I say that APC’s are really powerful in war and it savers mostly most lives in a war.

R.I.P John tower 2019-2020(Hardcore)

Bro the last upgrade, it make Commander look like old man

RIP the Iconic Wooden Stool and Chaining

Comander is now much worse without the john voices 💀😭

Best Way to Chain Commanders: Waves before Final Wave: Wait 3-4 seconds before using a commander ability. Final Wave: Use a commander ability, after 10 seconds use another commander ability, sell & rebuy the first commander, and repeat. This method is super expensive, but that isn’t a problem when it’s the final wave. In addition, this method is a good way at countering stuns, it makes sure towers are always buffed by 50%, and you’ll always have a back-up commander.

Tds really went full tb💀💀💀

Its sad to see new voice lines, but bloxy skin is still just "WOOOOOOOOOO" which is cool

three things I noticed 1. Commander is a spawner now 2. They removed neko commander’s fursuit 3. Accel broke (at least for me)

We gonna miss the old times

yep just like what i predicted, it will get a nerf

Commander no longer number 1 support tower but became dps tower

i miss john voice:(

the maid commander anime girl missile thing is my favourite thing ever

Bro got MASSACRED 💀

At least John is making his commander

this rework is the first where they made a mistake in. A lot of strategies are now ruined as a result.

Joe Swanson commander with that voice

bring me back my old john voice lines, this old man just sounds like he's decreasing my tower's firerate

i like this change honestly, the new looks are cool and uhmm.... uhhhhh... erm what the sigma

Commander went through puberty.. again.

It seems like John just doesn’t exist anymore. All we have is the skin, and who knows, that might be removed later, too.

Although it’s sad John’s voice line is gone, the new guy is still quite good

I think tds is trying to relaese new quality updates to compete again tdx like look at their designs and they're updating a lot more with better uodates instead of just skins

I’m fine with the rework itself. They just need to give commander back. It’s range and it’ll be perfect.

Bro johns voice fit more than the new actor voice.

think either they give more hp to tanks or nerf apc

Commander sounds more like a border patrol guard or somethin...

Im 101 percent sure that they decided to rework commander AND his voice lines just to remove john's voice (they have removed john and raz statues from the rocket arena map so thats why im convinced that they did so)

bru i was about to do the lucille strat

I’m not mad about most things, they just need to fix the range and How they ABSOLUTLY nerfed the fire rate buffs

They basically just did this to buff range and cooldown flags.

Btw why is the last upgrade commander looks like a grampa

Also the missile APC is more of an IFV

sweaking is so used to the commander placement cost being 650 he put that in the vid (it's 850)

Don't let the devs cook

I love old sound commander😢

APC aint too op or weak its like mid way but very understandable for having a lvl 15 lock

Why does it looks similiar to TB commander (the max level eyepatch and the APC)

I'm gonna say it, it's not too bad, you'd generally have 3 Commanders to begin with, but I will say that the range nerf hits the most I hope they get the time to model the other Commander convoy skins

Mini gunner + new commander = op also rip John voice but atleast make him a skin or something 😢😢😢

Now the Pirate skin are now worth it cuz they added his line RAAAAAAAAA!

Cool ass gun spinning

John said that other tower defense games will (or will not technically) use the tb (not stolen) commander. I knew it was coming just didnt know when. Also rip john voice and lucille strat (i dont use it cuz i dont have friends) Can't have nice things in tds can we? Well we can, we just need to pay for it ( i mean by real money)

i think in the future they will buff commander

They probably removed johns voice lines because in one of johns posts, he outright claimed tds is copying his game

I honestly like johns voice acting more on commander than this new guy whatever his name is. RIP john.

5 am, I'm not staying up seeing it

john we will always remember you.