New Criminal Law Sparks Outrage Among Doctors, Why Medical Professionals Against BNS? | Daily Mirror 

When buildings , bridges collapse and people die i don’t see contractors being arrested, but yet if those injured people are brought to the hospital and they die during efforts to save them, the doctor gets arrested ???? 😂😂😂

No punishment for political negligence 😂

For people who dont understand what is happening- drs are not against a real negligent doctor being punished. The issue is that " medical negligence " is difficult to investigate correctly and many drs have had to lose license and money in false accusations. Many patient's family try to accuse hospital and doctors of negligence to avoid bill payments, out of denial etc. Also i agree with the doctor who spoke of doctors needing to take risk to save patients. And that example of gynecologist is very good.

The problem is that to implement a law, you need judges and lawyers. Now if someone files a false accusation against a doctor for personal gain, then the "right" vs "wrong" lies inthe hands of the lawyer, who is obviously working only for money. The one who gets the better lawyer wins. Truth may fail.

Doctors shouldn’t even touch critical patients if this is the law.. 99% doctors do everything possible to save the life of the pt. If this is the case then doctors shouldn’t touch critical cases & why not any law against those who created ruckus in hospitals??

Im a doctor...i wanted to practice in India...i wanted to do some good for my people......but after seeing whatever is happening in country...im seriously considering moving to abroad and settling in any other country than india.....and i think at this point every doctor should consider the same.... finally the government has showed us our value in this country....and yes being a doctor i can proudly say "i deserve more"

Mr. Ashwini Kumar Dubey doesn't even understand what is medical negligence. And he's a SC Advocate. What a disgrace.

You can't have laws meant for criminals in same breath as that of doctors. There has to be a qualified decision for those

Now doctors will be reluctant to take serious cases due to fear.

Now i don't wish to practice in india at all , the way the government is treating NEET UG /PG aspirants and the doctors is very shameful. They are taking doctors for granted , definitely a larger number of good doctors will shift to countries like US or Britain . Its very Shameful .

Even the price of rice and chicken is increasing but the visiting fees of doctors have remained the same since the last decade. Increase the visiting fees and do you duty sincerely Then they'll shut up! Because doctors are humble bookworms and doing 36-72 hours continuous shifts they're imposing one thing after another. Doctors have to unite and keep providing the best treatment as before but with higher salary, so that culprits with notorious intension don't pass through the gate of the chamber!!!!!

Dr. Bagai is so crisp crystal clear and to the point .. his words are nothing but pure intellect ... so lucky for his patients .. 🙏

Let the lawyers & politicians treat patients now since they made & passed the law

I am a doctor, now onwards never attempt to revive a cardiac arrest patient definity reffered to cardiologist

Any complicated cases from now on refer to parliament and police station.

Doctors should play safe. They should recommend referring the patients to specialized hospitals. Let the government open many specialized hospitals with all infrastructure, medicines, machines, etc. If any hospital does not have all infrastructure, medicines, equipment, machines, labs, etc, the doctors should raise the issue by email, to the promoters of the hospitals/ Dist. collector for government hospitals and shift the accountability. .. First, he should save himself from jail so that he can continue to serve the patients.

The problem is not punishment of the guilty, but persecution of the innocent.Doctors will now have to take out comprehensive medical insurance which will increase the cost to the patient because the cost of insurance will have to be added to the doctor's fees.Hospitals and nursing homes will have to do the same,increasing treatment costs still further. To the patient this is the cost side of the cost-benefit analysis.Welcome to the "Development of India."

A wrong legal opinion of a lawyer is not an offence , but any action can be attributed as a negligence for any type of loss of life from hospitals. See there are several medicine that create a side effects of serious nature. Even IV applications, there are risks.

Dear doctors, save yourself first, rest doesn't matter.

Looks like even if 4 stage of cancer die Doctors negligence for late diagnosis 😂

Thankyou before my Neet Pg this came i will be taking para clinical branch like pathology or radiology.So there will be no need for thinking of medicolegal issues.

What about lawyers, will they be punished if a client lose a case due to some negligence? What about politicians.. Ministers etc will they or their party be punished?

First resevation second constant heckling by the relatives of the patient now this. As a doctor I dont feel safe to practise in India anymore

This would discourage doctors from attending critically ill patients.

At the time of epidemic, if doctor refused to treat patient, what government will do? Government forget corona

"Medical negligence " is very vaguely defined in the new laws . The definition needs to be re-defined with no ambiguity .

If a Bridge or a structure collapse and kill because of the contractors careless and human life lost Are they put to jail and fined ? This law was passed only to save the politician and curropt Govt officials useless

With this rules patient will suffer terribly specially those very serious they will be shuffled from one docter to other , from one hospital to others docters will definitely not take risk going to jail

best thing that i did was to settle in germany after my mbbs.low pay, huge workload, even law is against doctors, better to get out of such a country

Dr.Sanjeev Bagai Dr.Jayadevan and Mr.Pratap have explained the issue well very well.The BJP is good in bringing half baked laws which do more harm then good

What about quacks or so called RMPS who practice modern medicine?And what about overworked and underpaid doctors in Govt. Hospital?

Instead of making laws to control corporate greed in healthcare industry, the government is making non sensical and overbearing criminal laws

What about under equipped govt medical institutions? Are the MLAs and MPs liable for negligence ?

Negligence is not the correct term . Any patient who comes to a doctor for treatment and the treating doc have no personal connection beyond disease and treatment , Doctors provide treatment under the prescribed guidelines and even emergencies are also handled as per guidelines .the patient may or may not respond to treatment.So if a cancer patient dies inspite of treatment does is it because of negligence any foul play?

Bjp is a foolish govt , here intellectual not but foolish politicians make laws. This govt earlier allowed ayurvedic and homeopathic doc to prescribe modern medicine 😂😂 later on after protests it was repealed. Utter foolish govt.

Let the government stop giving access to Ayurveda & homeopathy to practice modern medicine than more than half of problems will solved..

I won’t be doing any more intubations.

I dont think the reporter could understand what that senior neurologist was saying. I acknowledge his discussion was too deep into medical and legal aspect for her to understand easily. But she could have made a little more effort

i think all these laws will apply on ayurvadic doctors or persons like ramdev also?

Would only allopathy doctors be liable or Homeopathic or Ayurvedic practitioners too ? They earn same as us in government job. 😅

We need mandatory 10 year WARRANTY PROVISIONS for buildings from builders

When any judges gives wrong judgements and real victim dies of suicide then no judges will be held responsible for abetment of suicide. When lawyers keep giving hopes and running cases for long it's not accountable. Judges and lawyers should be the first thing to be scrutinized.

Somehow Mr. Ashwini Kumar seems to have not understood the medical profession. He is stuck with legality and not human considerations. As one of panellist explained it takes over two decades for a doctor to make clear decision on each patient. It is tough and a rewarding vocation. The reward is more of the wellbeing of the patient treated than any other. The law can be used to target doctors. Praying that patients who are aware of the goodness of medical profession will come to the street and join the doctors in repealing this provision from the newly enacted law.

Great work! Welcome to the world where doctors will no longer take on serious cases and just refer them. No one wants to be jailed wrongly for trying to save a life. I can guarantee that many people will die due to this and it won't be the doctor's fault.

In America, people sue doctors and make money through lawsuit. I hope people in India don't start that trend.

Drs deals with life n death every day not less than 50 critical patients no profession is so close to death like drs. they r more vulnerable to get negligence case every day how will they treat patients with such fear..They will stop taking critical cases so that they will be safe n advise every investigation to confirm the diagnosis which will ultimately burden patients pocket.Referal will b the only option in every hospital.even after all the medical knowledge sometimes patient can not saved .every living being on earth will die jst because family lost their loved ones n they couldnt accept the fact they can't blame Drs for everything..yes their should b a medical board to decide medical negligence neither patient, police, lawyers r not qualified to understand the technicalities of complications..

Getting consent from patient is ceremonial procedure. Who is aware of procedure here?. They are many offences in criminal law, which does not have mensrea. Even though there is no mensrea, they have knowledge that patient may die.

Admidst neet scam, students will study their a** off and then again study more in mbbs and then again they have to clear EXIT test to get licence for practice. And again do specialisation super specialisation. And after all this rigorous efforts what they get? End up in jail for some patient dying during operation. Or also may be if the patient was already dead, who knows if the doctor can prove his or her innocence. Time to leave the country for good.

Doctors giving false certificates in criminal cases must go to jail.

Doctors want protection as well justice. We are not against real negligence. You all should respect understand doctors and DO NOT HARM ANY DOCTORS under rages. Hope for the best. I hope govt India as well state govt should give protection to Doctors.🧿

The term journalists should be included and misinterpretation should be a criminal act!

If this continues no good candidate will become a doctor , everyone can become a software engineer & earn money easily without any fear & commitment

What ever the situation but please don't do physical fight inside the hospital consider other critical patients are there to get cured what if someone died during your violent act who will be the responsible again....give respect for doctors we need them no matter how rude or bad they are their one direction people's life have been saved until now , for one case we cannot ignore their thousand of good deeds.....

Patients will suffer as from now on physicians, surgeons will refuse to take high risk cases. Already young surgeons I know are planning to branch out of "high risk-life saving" practice like obstetrics into infertility or etc

our Parlimentarins who pass such LAWS are soft in the head. They should learn to write a simple sentence. Only a very highly efficuent, comptent can decide on negligence. It is like asking an illiterate to decide on the competence of a Doctor . STUPID laws.

If you don't consult anybody don't discuss it in the parliament don't get suggestions from public but bring in laws as per you wish then this will be the result. Farm laws were framed farmers fought for one year lives lost and after one year they were withdrawn. The two think that they know everything and go about enacting laws

Modi govt politicise everything & anytime like in edu, healthcare, national security etc, etc, very danger govt, for the nation

This is what happens when bills are bulldosed and passed without consulting the experts and debating in parliament..

what about violence against healthcare professionals ? will it still be considered the high emotions of relatives and not criminal acitivity.

What about the government not providing enough equipment and resources which could save the life of a patients. Which i encounter in govt hospitals alot.

What do you mean by comparing a doctor to LEVEL of politicians??!.....we doctors go through immense amount of studies..we invest immense amount of our money and time to acquire the knowledge.. during the journey of becoming a doctor every single one of us has faces the unimaginable amount of stress, anxiety and depression at certain points....this profession is called an NOBEL profession for a reason!......and on the other hand to become a political all you need to do is gather votes..which are not even gathered by being loyal to those voters...they lie, they pay money for the votes, they distribute free alcohol for the votes, they make false promises..and most of them are even uneducated if you're comparing to a doctor!.....we doctors work for the greater good of our patients..and those politicians work only to win votes again in next term....i guess this should state who is selfless and who is selfish!

Absolutely sick legislators to bring stupid laws, including BNS69. Weather they are morons or purposefully wanted to bring such biased laws to destroy India?

This is just like the government bringing in more and more exams instead of doing something about improving the quality of education. Half-baked superficial measures that don't do the patient any good, create ungodly stress on the doctors in the name of 'progress'. Could you do something to improve the system first?

Shame ....on the govt.....

Main reason we don't have enough qualified doctors is that the good ones have been going to the developed countries rather than serving in their homeland. It's not for lack of jobs but for earning higher salaries. Second, corporate hospitals set targets for medical professionals who must pad up patient's bill. This includes unnecessary tests and treatments. Could such recklessness lead to patient death? If patients are seen as "customers" then yes! I know of someone who had to undergo the same surgery three times, including medical instrument accidentally left inside abdomen to be extracted!!

I should not have given survice to COVID patients as COVID was not my expertise... According to the advocate

There must be a sop ( standard Operating procedure) for treating a patient in govt and private hospital. Violation of SOP is liable to punishment to medical professionals. Otherwise not.

And also put some law who uses cheap materials for bridge or building leading to collapse.

This would create an additional mental stress on the doctor who is already facing a complex or critical situation . It’s like holding a gun on the head of someone who is trying to save a life. This seems like a draconian law especially for such a profession which requires immense knowledge and expertise to treat an individual. Instead a law should be passed of transparency and monitoring while involving critical treatments.

IPC cancelled BNS comes, next comes Manusmriti, no democracy will exist, no constitution will exist, monarchial administration will begin. JAGO MODI BHAKTH JAGO🙄

Ashwani Kumar is the most mindless advocate I have heard to…….at 15.17 he states that if a doctor doesn’t know how to do a thing he shouldn’t do it …..just a thing if he missed what dr. Sanjeev Bagai said….a dr. Trains 20 yrs to be where he is and this advocate thinks it is cool to say dr. Is incapable….on the other hand ….only if Ashwini Kumar knew what an emergency means…..he won’t talk about referring a patient……just talking like an illiterate person …..he actually proved dr. Bagai’s point ……advocate and police know zero about medicine and can’t be considered in stating whether it is negligence or not……

This is why India is backward here educated people instead of taking higher responsibility they want a concession for doing crime. Medical negligence is real and it need to criminalise if need can be done with more debate and discussion but it should be criminalised.

Law should Specify difference between Gross Reckless MEDICAL Negligence And Failure of Treatment especially high risk procedures . Otherwise who will take up Sick CRITICAL cases ????? Government and BJP had promised to Exempt DOCTORS from purview of Section 304 a and 106 BUT opposite SEEMS HAPPENING ?!!!!!!!

What are the sections under which punishments for "negligence in drafting laws" & "biasness towards govt by media" defined ? This video will be taken as evidence for sure

Why is Modiji making New Laws without implementing the excellent Existing Laws against continuous Killings going on in the Country??????

Yes there are protocols "SOPs" for treatment but if every doctor starts practicing strictly as per protocol then people without medical insurance will go bankrupt for sure....Making decisions for treatment require years of practice and clinical experience....for each symptom a patient presents with there can be atleast 100 differential diagnosis which an efficient doctor rules out and narrows down based on experience and some lab tests....this experience is not something you find in your SOPs, human body is not simple maths like 1+1=2....as per standard protocol there are multiple tests to rule out each differential diagnosis and if doctors start ordering tests for each and every suspicion you would go bankrupt without medical insurance....This argument is invalid for a resource limited and economically underdeveloped country like India....If you have a doubt you can ask any person living in any 1st world countries about how medical system works there and how much is the cost of treatment..... Harsh criminal negligence on the other hand was punishable earlier also, no one had problems with it...if this new law is bringing such controversies, there must be a something terribly wrong in it...people should understand this instead of blaming doctors for protesting against this new law..... What constitutes Gross medical negligence must be clearly defined by ammendment in the new law.........If this new law is not ammended no doctor would be willing to take up high risk patients under their treatment and would simply refer and shift the responsibility, critically ill poor patients who cannot afford treatment at big corporate hospitals will suffer the most....who would risk going to jail or harrasment at court while trying to save lives if favourable outcomes don't occur.....

Medical practitioner !! Do they specified that, medical practitioners include from a ward boy to nurse, from pharmacist to doctor, from unani homeopathy to allopathy doctor all of them are medical practitioners will they also be considered equal culpable?? Many times even patient or patients attendant do negligence, tell half things many things, would their negligence be also over doctor??

If the medical negligence is proved the concerned doctor should be accountable.

With this law - Think twice before you send your children to become 'Doctors ' . Youngsters - Forget your dream of becoming a doctor in India...

The government of India should start constructing Jail that can House 1 lakhs minimum as there’s more chance of being caught than sleeping.

Is there a similar law against lawyers

Make special criminal section solely for amit shah.. And his team.. Shameless

Political aur Administrative Negligence pe bhi strong law banao na.. !!

What about the ministers who are doing bad in their job ... frequently causes people to die on ill constructred road and examples are many many more. Do they get arrested or investigated no and our indian citizen will never have the guts to raise their voice towards them

What are the guidelines that are not negligence

What doctor said is right

I was suffering with disability by gross negligible by doctor.. its been 15 years... I filed a case in 2014 against doctor... Its been pending for 10 years... Thats our judiciary... Whom to blame?? They are freely roaming but our family suffering

Why isn't legal and judicial negligence called criminal offence. The lawyers in our country openly take bribe and finish off the plaintiff s case even if he has the strongest case. There is no body that the lawyers seem to be answerable to. Even the bar council of India has a disciplinary board that is run by lawyers for the benefit of lawyers. Why? Why aren't the law officers held accountable. Even judges when found guilty, are asked to resign instead of being dishonourably discharged and they are still allowed to practice law!!?? Why? And why are lawyers allowed to join politics and still practice. Why make the bhakshak so Powerful that it is easier to be a victim without justice than to trying to get justice

Medical negligence is real. It is done to all patients who are 60 and above.

Not following protocol like surgical safety checklist then wrong surgery etc is negligence

How about some laws against the police department ? Wouldn't that be comforting for the whole country.

This is what happens when uneducated BJP rules the country . They are just concerned about creating religious issue. The country can only get out of this only when educated rulers rule the country .

No one should have blanket immunity from the law of the Land btw Doctors attitude in India is beyond tolerable

In INDIAN clinics & many small & medium scale hospitals you have unqualified paramedics.

With that kind of law no doctor would ever touch a serious case or a dying person who is in a casw of emergency.

But instead section should be inserted that all cases of accusations of criminal negligence must be dealt by committee comprising of doctors from state medical council along with ips officers and retd judges.

Cost of treatment will go up like in US.

It's a good move . Doctors should be responsible for the negligence..Thanks to Amit Shah..

In a corrupt society where police and Advocates are corrupt, it is difficult for doctors. Politicians get away with all sorts of negligence

Government has become mad....all waste criminal laws , useless agriculture laws..