NEW Daughters of Khaine vs NEW Hedonites of Slaanesh Age of Sigmar Battle Report - First Impressions 

YAY!! Ive been waiting for you guys to play this army!! Had a blast painting the DoK for you! Great video as always!!

“In this game Luka, things die” - lol. Love your banter guys - keep it up!

”One DP for Steve.” Oh god.

Fantastic early batrap! Also the combo with luka and steve is special... just fun, no sign of any saltyness :D

Battlereport on premiere for Age of Sigmar... It was sooo long. Thank you, miniwargaming :*

Me and my friends have been playing without double turns for a year now it makes the game way better I’m so glad you guys are doing this now

Would really love to see how mortal Slaanesh interacts with the new summoning system. I think spreading out chip damage from MSU blissbarb seekers and archers will really quickly rack up the Depravity Points! I think in many ways the army plays very safe and rangy in the first turn(s), then summons its support units from turn 2 onwards where necessary and plays the late game summon for easy captures.

omg steve counting out the daemonettes, I died! Well played gents. I really agree about the shooting. $0k is already a game filled with strong shooting, leave aos for melee!

I love watching Steve and Luca. Their videos are entertaining on so many levels, especially when it comes to the tangents and discussions.

I've only just stumbled on your channel. Loving it and great reintroduction too AoS. Only working off old book but why was morathi on the table in both High priestess and shadow Queen form at same time? Isn't she meant to transform from one into the over?

Great video guys! I’ve been waiting for a Daughters of Khaine bat rep. Quick question would you recommend Morgwaeth's Blade-coven for AoS? (I’m a beginner)

I almost thought Vito would come back with his Hedonites!! :D

Steve, Luka, remember that slaanesh still has viable hosts from wrath of everchosen book.

THANK YOU STEVE!!!!! Thank you for standing up for the correct use of the word "decimate". It bothers the SNOT out of me when people use it wrong, too.

Great job trying to give a balanced showcase; I think demons will probably perform great in an msu build and especially in a different battleplan. Quick non-gameplay question: are you able to share the sand recipe or colours for the daughter's of khaine bases?

Steve really RPing his hedonites, "Yeah!"

Last time i was this early the world wasnt shattered

Great Rep. Nice to see no double turn :)

I know its hard to get this early, but i really hope to see mortals of Slaanesh sometime in the future. For all the chaos gods i always preferred mortals over demons. The new models are making me consider starting a mortal Slaanesh even though i was originally waiting for Maggotkin to get an update and hopefully more mortal models.

Wow what a crazy start

Luka, Blood Stalkers (the bows) went UP points in Shadow and Pain to get that extra shot. Blood Sisters, when their Crystal Touch got reworked to be an end of the fight phase ability instead of an attack, went DOWN in points.

Interesting to see Open Play every now and then I guess.

Super big surprise! Thanks boiz!!!!!!

I like the changes on the DoK battletome, but it's sad to see that even DoK is a shooting army now. 32 incs threat range, double shooting, it feels like the ppl writing these rules are not playing AoS at all (looking at you Sentinels too).

I think they are testing sales on these units and soon after druhkari re-release will happen soon afterward. I hope.

Now this is a release that makes me miss Vito.

If I may give you guys some tips on mistakes made: Witchbrew is: you roll 1 dice, adding +1 for each of the blood rite traits your units are in. Then look at the results. If its a 5+ (with modifiers) then you get both the re-roll wound rolls and immunity to battleshock. @29:40 you forgot that daughters of khaine re-roll run rolls starting in turn 1 already hahaha. And you are Hagg Nar so you re-roll charge rolls of 1 as wel immediately in the first round! Hahaha Anyways it was fun to watch the new tomes. Thanks!

The boys where rowdy to day, I like it!

i think that it's more that people have confused using decimated with devastated since they sound rather similar. and yeah i agree with steve, it is a problem.

It's 4am time to watch some Warhammer ig

You know it's funny The fact these armies exist mean GE kinda listens. Slaanesh pleasure cult and DE Wytch Cult were popular and often requested for updates I now realized it's daemon of slaanesh

I love watching you guys but I'm a bit sad lately about the lack of "suspense" in the AoS mwg battrep. Most of them see one player being stomped turn 2 or 3. I love the fact that you guys don't always play the "competitive" stuff but I would love some more competition in the batreps. Or make more narrative AoS campaign, you are the best for that !! Cheers to all of you !

Yo let’s fuckin go! Edit: what are these rolls my dudes?

It would have been cool if they both had to use the Vito dice for this batrep

Those armies look amazing

I might be nitpicking, but the worship through bloodshed ability does not let you pile in and attack, it says just you can fight or shoot. Has this been changed in the new book? While in the great scheme of things that might only have been a minor error, it made a difference nonetheless, I would have picked the blood stalkers to shoot.

That Sandesh are looks so cool 😎

What is the desert color used on the DoK bases?

I love that the witch elves killed the demonettes so hard that they themselves died.

I watched the whole thing and I don't remember Steve getting to play at all

Please get some objective zone markers like the ones sold by THW or Facehammer to facilitate viewers following the game.

hit & wound on 3's reroll all 1's & need 5's to save, if you go 1rst how do you lose?

I am torn. As a viewer I care MOSTLY about watching a good fight. So a double turn that kills the bat rep is a HUGE turn off for me. But I'd like to see the mechanic of the double turn embraced a bit more. I felt like Matt with gore gruntas vs Steve with Archaon was a great example of two people preparing for the double turn. Even though the double turn pretty much murderer that fight. So I kinda want both. I want bat reps like this where you guys say "hey no double turns today" and I want other Batreps were you guys say "today we're going to try and play in a way that survives a potential double turn".

"In Age of Sigmar 'wholly within 12' means the entire base while in 40k it doesn't" ... that's just plain wrong. In 40k 'wholly within' means the whole base as well.

How is it that both versions of Morathi are out at once? I thought she starts small and you have to transform her somehow?

VITO!!!! T_T Miss that vest!

Slaanesh went from hero hammer to being msu now. You'd have got way more depravity Steve if you'd ran more smaller units.

the double turn thing is the biggest turnoff for me so I love that house rule

Black Templars game coming? Wanna see them

So wait, in AoS you can fire at units engaged in close combat? You can fire through large models? What is line of sight in this game?

I was actually thinking about getting into Warhammer but I'm confused what's going on with The Old World? Will Age of Sigmar continue and the Old World be a different game? Is Age of Sigmar being transitioned out?

So anyways, the hero phase!

Really love these new Slaanesh models but watching for like the forth battle report how shooting is just ridiculous and how badly Slaanesh got nerfed into the ground and buried is going to end that project fast.

After watching this I got the impression my poor hedonites got nerfed to damnation

Damn. I thought this had the -new- new models, like glutos oscilion and such.

Isn’t the larger Morathi (mrs snaky) another form of the same model, not two different models?

.....1 DP for steve indeed ;)

Just curious, it didn't come up in this game - but if you're always doing alternate turns, how are you handling Endless Spells?

Has vito been let go or is he working on behind the scene stufg

it’s a shame the Slaanesh army does not contain the new Haedonite units as i think they will make the army play very differently. i understand why you guys rushed this out, but this seems to be short selling the new battletomes. not to mention Knife to the Heart does not really demonstrate object holding and taking which really is the bulk of most scenarios in Age of Sigmar.

I think AOS should not keep initiative and the double turn anymore. The damage output of the current armies is too high now and getting double turned usually means that you will lose too much of your army to continue playing. Perhaps MWG should stick with not using the initiative roll off for the next few battle reports and see if it results in more enjoyable games.

People would take Morathi @ 800 points. She is 100% worth her points.

that Slaanesh army is beautiful

I agree, the double turn is dumb

Do you not get a DP for any unit with models missing? Thus the Keeper would be a unit with a model missing?

MWG are just from the future. this video is proof

Any army without shooting or consistent spell damage is gonna struggle vs morathi snake. Having to spend 4 turns in melee to kill her, while she's doing a lot more wounds back is gonna hurt... Seems like something you need to have small disposable units deal with until she's at least bracketed a good bit. She's also going to be a guaranteed objective for 2 battle rounds in some scenarios.

Where is Veto the Vest?

i thought vito would be jumping all over the Hedonites of Slaanesh. I haven't seen vito on here for ages!

I know it's blood, but that cauldron looks like it's full of ketchup

Steve is so funny in this one! bwahahah

Just want to add, in latin languages "decimation" have even more sense how u are explaining it becouse de root of the word means ten ("diez" in spanish, "dieci" in italian, "dix" in french, "dez" in portuguese. Funny thing, in spanish at least (my native language) the meaning of decimate (diezmar) is being expanded too, not like total anhilation but anything that cause a high mortality like a war or a plague. But also started meaning ten per cent casualties.

My two favorite factions

More Slannesh please, more slanngors, more Sigvald

Long rant incoming: I am so torn on the AoS turn rules. I think its an attempt to half ass IGYG with squad based activation, and it just does not work. IGYG is easily understood, but tends to lack complete player feedback (other then saving throws and attacking back in CC). Squad based activation is amazing (think titanicus or battletech) but can slow down the game. This IGYG but the chance to switch turn order can be to gimmicky. In the earlier turns it really doesn’t matter - especially if you both plan for it - but a double turn in turn 4 or 5 is devastating - especially when things are already in CC. Nothing feels worse then you in the lead on turn 4, then the other player double turns you and essentially does double damage to your army in quick succession. I think there are really only two ways to play a game that work: IGYG very much like warhammer 40K. This can be modified to work more like Infinity - where it is still IGYG but there is heavy interaction between two players and reactions and such Squad/unit based activation like Titanicus, Dropzone, battletech. I find this to be much, MUCHHHH, more enjoyable as a play experience. I feel there are more tactical decisions that needs to be made, there is more interaction between players, and it just feels enjoyable. That is why when 40K came out with their apoc rules and they “somewhat” approached this type of rule with the idea of detachment activation - it was so much fun to play because it was... well it was squad based activation (also the fact that things did NOT DIE until end of turn was AMAZING - frack you alpha strike armies god that was such a cool rule). Anyway rant over - do you what makes you feel comfortable. I don’t watch you guys for the l33t plays... I watch you guys cause you are hilarious and fun to watch.... ....and to watch Luka make the god of statistics cry every time he plays....

It IS Hagg Nar, not “Nagg Har”.

Rough start for the hedonites. These two battletomes are not in the same league!

I agree with you guys. When you play this casualy with friends just agree to disregard the turn roll off rule. It just make things unbalanced.

My knee jerk reaction from this battle. Daughters of Kain have been too powerful for ages and they are now even stronger. Hedonites were too good for a few months, then they got nerfed repeatendly until there was really only one or two viable builds. Now they are even worse. So...good job GW? Too early to tell I suppose, but some of the new units (Slaangor in particular) seem really bad. I expect they will fiddle around with points but they won't make any meaningful changes. Seems like some armies are ALWAYS really OP while others are sometimes okay and still others are always bad. The elf factions are always pretty good. Beasts of Chaos always suck. That sort of thing.

I always get a depression when i see these beautiful armies 😂😭

I think the normal "you go, I go" house rule is just better for both sides on the table and for viewing. It feels cheap if one side gets to go twice and secure a victory in two turns before the other guy gets todo anything in these BR.

When you roleplay your DOK as KO xd

So Daughters, who were already good, got even better and the Hedonites, who already received 2 nerfs, got nerfed again? That is irritating. :( I do agree that Keepers were a bit much before, but I only ran 1 because I like it.

lol, the daughters hit so hard they killed themselves

It is Hagg Nar though...🤔

Can someone explain what the lore reason is for Morathi to be on the table in both her forms at the same time?

It’s definitely no the way you pronounced it Luka. Abandon only has one pronunciation.

I think this is one of the times where the removal of strength and toughness from AoS is bad for the game because it made missile weapons so much more powerful with a flat to hit and wound roll, combine that with the mortal wound capability that it seems more and more missile weapons are getting and it becomes even worse. Anyways, nice hero phases....er I mean game, not an AoS player personally but I do enjoy watching it.

Really like the alternating turns instead of the double turns. How do you handle endless spells?

I wonder what happened to Quirk?

question : why in hell do you score points on your own first turn ? seems a bit weird/unfair (in a way)

Lukas list is missing battleline with the old book. Blood stalkers are not battleline. If the new book changed this rule its fine.

What is lukas 3rd battleline?

so many danger noddles do not boop or you will get the hurt juice.

In Morathai vs Teclics...I think that Teclics problem is that in all the games I have watched, he just seems to turn off the other player's magic phase and then gets to do exactly what he wants in his own magic phase with out giving the other player a chance. The Hag seems at least to give the other person a chance to play the phase/game.

Ah, man, I don't like the set turn order, I think it sucks ass. All it'll encourage people to do is build 1 or 2 drop lists to definitely get the choose who goes first or second, and I suppose alpha strike lists. It'd make shooting stronger, Seraphon, KO, CoS gunlines can just be screened and you can just kite units. For me, it removes the risk vs reward element of what I love about AoS edit I guess if you're scrapping too much content because of it though, that's an outlier experience to the inda stuff I play. Tough choice

Will there be anymore WF 8th edition in the near future, or has that been replaced with campaign stuff?

Chance of double turn not chappening once is about ~11,5% but I understand implementation of this rule.

The DoK are way undercosted for what they bring to the table. Their scrolls and rules are not the problem I think but it is their massive points drops that pose a challenge. It's a well formulated army but just needs fair point values.

@MWG Please write in the description when you decide to alter the rules so drastically as to remove the double turn (make it very explicit that its Open Play with house rules)... Could have saved me a bit of time... .. And I'm sad that you don't instead try to learn to play the game better... Oh well :)