@@paulleggett9735 Perhaps the new British/German AMR21 Team help can "close the gap" again ... Vielleicht kann das neue britisch-deutsche AMR21-Team helfen, die "Lücke wieder zu schließen" ... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xwCQle2ZJWM.html
Top Gear isn't messing anything, the last series was better than many of the last of the Amazon trio. We don't need Top Gear to become the Late Brake Show because we've got this on here. RU-vid is a better place for it IMO. We'd never get a 24 minute review of one car on prime time BBC.
It's also a thing where modern parking spaces and domestic garages are far too small for ever increasing car sizes. People stopped driving Austin A30s years ago. :-)
It’s because the charging cable doesn’t reach far enough for cars that have the charge port on the side. You’ll see most cars with charge ports on the side park like this at rapid chargers unless they have a longer cable. This is why rapid chargers layouts need to be more like a petrol station. Parking spaces work for AC charging where you can have longer cables, but for DC rapid chargers where cables are more expensive and therefore shorter, they don’t work as well.
@@worldofrandometry6912 The cars are supposed to be designed for the world we live in, we don't rebuild everything due to garbage car packaging/marketing.
Your ability to assess a vehicle in two hours is, truly, remarkable. Can’t imagine what you would have added if you were allowed a week with it. Excellent work!
8:44 Both Porsche and Audi driver parked over their parking bay to stop a third car access the limited charging points. These brands really are the new ‘BMW’ 🤣🤣🤣
@@kamallb4650 yeah connector not cable - I really need to check what I write :-) and come on it's clearly capable of reaching - the car is just parked badly....
Audi drivers here in the Netherlands don't even brother indicating at any moment, and there's a new generation of Volvo drivers that are catchig up the trend.b
Another reviewer pointed out there’s no center front arm rest that’s disappointing with how much Audi focuses on interior design. I use the arm rest frequently and for me this is a major omission.
I had a Model S for a week in the alps. It definitely translates in the driving experience... if you don't thread 2 ton needles between trucks by a living.
@BTICronox I was specifically commenting about the size, it’s a very hard car to have on narrow roads even if you drive slowly. Having a car that has to back up when it meets a lorry requires skills
How can people take hours of lessons, pass a driving test, be in control of over 2 tonnes of machine travelling at over 70mph, yet they cannot drive slowly between two white lines. I couldn't leave my car parked like that, it's just too embarrassing.
Yep, this is the VW rebadging strategy with almost all their passenger cars. Another example is how they rebadged the Touareg as the Cayenne, Benteyga, Q-7 and the Uras to sell it at a higher price point to a public that doesn't know any better.
Hi Johnny, as a resident of Milton Keynes I am disappointed by your comments, I came to "MK" in 1990 and originally thought like you do. However I came to love the place. Cars and pedestrians are deliberately segregated to minimise collisions between people, bicycles, horses and transport. It may look boring but you can travel across MK very quickly via car and very safely in landscaped area safe from cars etc and without all the noise of engines. Love your channel, keep up the good work and please don't be so predictable about comments regarding MK, not everywhere can look like a Alpine pass but we have very good amenities, lots of parking and loads green spaces. Coming from a inner city originally it literally is a breath of fresh air. P.S the roundabouts keep traffic flowing really well and the grid system allows for alternative routes to avoid any roadworks or traffic delays. Stay safe mate and keep up the great content :)
Graham, you are absolutely right. I was just in a mood that day with the stress of such a short shoot. Weather was crap. MK was an easy target. As you say, I shouldn't judge before knowing more about a place. I'd rather live in MK than many other cities. Thanks for the comment and sorry for being dismissive of the place.
As you say a great looking car. As for the price it may start a little higher than the base Porsche but it will be better specked.we know with Porsche everything is an option which it is easy to push a base taycan north of £95,000. The good thing is more new Ev’s = more choice which can only be a good thing.
That's one nice thing about the VW autos, you have a different styling for each iteration to meet a customer's taste. I can't wait to see what the Lamborghini version is going to look like, and hopefully the base iD version will be much cheaper.
Reluctantly Liking Electric Cars Now I've Seen This 😳 From A 100% Petrol Head 🙈😩😫 I Don't Want To Like Electric Cars 🙄😂🤣🤣 For Now All I Love To Hear In My Ears From The Boot Of My Car Is The Compressor For My Airbags 👍😉
As Tesla fanboy (normal one not the toxic one) the exterior + interior (especially exterior) looks fabiolus! Probably best looking BEV i can think! Such a beauty!
lol I love how you specified that you're a normal one and not the crazy ones. I LOVE the look of this car. If they had Tesla's battery technology on this and the Taycan, it would be killer!
I'm from Denmark, and years back i was on the annual school trip. That year England was the destination, but the teachers thought milton keynes was the best place to visit for the whole week.
@@lorenzmuller4000 There are places in the UK, where houses can be bought for less than £100k, and in Nice areas too, OUTSIDE the South Eastern property bubble.
In New Zealand the national median house price is $780,000. In the 2 major cities it's over $1M. The Taycan ranges in price from $203,000 to $367,000. The e-Tron RS price is yet to be confirmed but I'm figuring north of $300,000. So you're halfway to the median. $300K might get you a house needing work in a small town, or an OK 1 bed apartment in a city.
Love the comment sections under these kind of reviews. Full of people who complain and whinge about details even though they themselves drives a second-hand Corolla in real life and couldn't afford a car like this if they sold everything they own. But please, tell me again how you think the door handles are all wrong or whatever. I need a good laugh.
Looks wise I definitely prefer the Porsche Taycan. I've just checked out early shots of the estate version of the Porsche you mentioned on this... Oh my, it's lovely. I actually really want one but they're A LOT of money.
So judging by the shots of you by the car at the charging bays it's far too big to fit in a standard UK parking bay. Why do EV's all have to be massive bricks that weigh over 2T and don't fit on our infrastructure? There's no need for the bonnet to be that long (the grille looks ripe for helping owners dominate the outside lane of the motorway though), the wheels are a ridiculous size (scale the whole thing down to 17 or 18" wheels) and prone to getting damaged by kerbs and potholes plus total use of touchscreens. Why, they're just a distraction as shown by you using it to change driving modes as you approach the roundabout. Great content as always Jonny but that car is just too big.
I think the answer to that is that it's supposed to be their flagship sedan. So it can't be the size of an A4. It has to be RS6/rs7 sized which this looks to be. However in other reviews I've noticed they have all said the room in the backseats is much smaller than you'd expect. I think this platform that Taycan and Etron is using is poor packaging. It's extremely long 4.9-5 metres which goes in the large sedan class. But the interior space and boot space is of a car that is 4.6-4.7 metres long.
Amazing car but I wish they would make it a bit less wide especially for UK use. It's already a nightmare with all the narrow back roads and narrow parking lots here!
So if the designer loved the freedom that the electric platform gave him, how come he designed a car with all the proportions of an ice car? Answer: marketing. Some freedom!
@@davidholden2658 About ten times that much for a fast charger. Which by no means is fast. You cant run the rapid ones at home. You'd cook your system. You'd need 3 phase power. Basically a single phase is say 240 v. 3 phase is over 400 volts.
@@davidholden2658 what do you drive? Also how much charge does the fast charger do overnight and how much charge would you get with just a standard charger without the upgrade? I assume the upgrade is well worth it.
I'm not an Audi fan at all, but this is the nicest looking Audi for a generation. The grille is a breath of fresh air. BMW take note....please! Love the colour too.
Thanks for another great video Jonny! I'm not a Tesla fan boy, but if I won the Lotto, I would be ordering the Plaid (despite the name). I think the big manufacturers are still playing catch-up. Or they should be charging less due to offering less for the same or more money as the Plaid. My two cents there. 🙂
Plaid + it would have to be. Only drawbacks are the lack of a HUD, no cool rear lights, and I have no idea what they're doing with the Matrix LED stuff.
@@JohnnyZenith Model S plaid is too overkill compared to the GT. Even the GT RS is struggling against a standard model S long range. But of course panel gaps and loose panels is a no go. Tesla is out, Audi is the shit!
That was a great review considering you only had 2 hours with it in MK. If I had £80k+ to spend I wouldn't buy one, I would add to my collection of £13,000 cars and rent a barn. Nice though!
Audi looks knock spots off the Taycan, great to see them alongside like that. The Porsche looks awful in comparison. Great review Jonny. Thanks for this! Look forward to a longer drive when we get more back to normal! How fast can you charge on a 400V charger? 50kW? "They didn't want one pedal driving to be the feeling?" Who cares what they want? It's an EV, get with the program. Honestly. Weak regen's a huge turnoff right there. New S looking better by the moment.
Great video Jonny! These high-end EVs (etron, taycan, plaid) just don't interest me very much. It feels like they are upper middle class solutions to a problem that I don't have... Looking forward to when a 205gti type of EV becomes a thing :)
I didn't totally understand your premise. Do you mean cheaper every person type of ev? I think Hyundai and some other brands like puegeot (I could be wrong) are doing some crackers for a lot less money with really good 200+ mile range. I saw a range test on carwow which had them. Worth a quick squiz at that video
2285kg? To put that into perspective I drive a 1954 4 door Chevy Bel Air which is 1560kg. So the E-tron GT with a cat sitting on the roof weighs the same as a 1950's 4 door yank tank and a 1987 VW polo combined.
Agreed, i used to work at a Jag dealership and most customers would plead poverty at service time, mind i would wince too when the tyre and service bills were handed to them lol they looked like they were being told their last rites.
@@Mireaze A Lot of people will over stretch themselves on PCP finance that they can barely afford to try to flex like they’re doing well for themselves. This is why you’ll see things like M3’s on really sketch budget tyres that are in no way up to handling the power.
@@Mireaze yes lol. My father let's say he's high up in the medical profession and has. Model S with 21 inch rims. Each michellin tyre costs $550 AUD. Tyre changes are $2000-2500 every time. Can he afford it? Sure. Does he like spending that much on tyres? No. Just because you can do it, doesn't mean you should do it all the time. We need more cars on 20inch+ rims so production scales increase for tyres and they become cheaper loll
@@djprojectus Yes, exactly! Ugly in the EV world equals efficiency and perfomance. Reality hurts, I know! We are used to old car design, will take some time til we get used to aerodynamic EV designs. Polestar 2 looks great, but it really hurts the range sadly.
IMO, this car looks way better than Tesla. I know Tesla has better battery range and performance, but in quality interior and assembly this Audio is way better.
All these EV cars all are way too expensive which strange as there are less moving parts than a piston engine car and they are a lot cheaper to make now the price of the batteries has come down by a tenth. The conspiracy theory is that car companies are deliberately keeping EV prices high is because they have so much money tied up with still making and selling piston engined cars and they don’t want everyone to suddenly start buying EV’s and then getting stuck with piston engines cars they can’t sell.
I don't really understand why more EVs don't use gearing to extend their range. Surely having a gearbox that extends the range is a fairly easy thing to implement, and the downside (less reliable/more weight/expense) is a small price to pay if you can double the range?
As I understand it, an electric motor is able to deliver the same torque and power across its whole operating range. A gearbox reduces efficiency through friction and other losses. A gearbox will therefore *decrease*, not increase the range of a properly set up electric drivetrain.
I don't really understand it either but I'm sure the maths have been done by Tesla. A motor should provide 100% torque at any rpm. The Porcshe only uses the second gear for launch mode, it's for power not efficiency. Introducing gears for normal cruising just adds friction to the drive train.
Audi will sell them on looks alone - but a world first - in Milton Keynes !! - what were they thinking? Tesla superior technically but not as pretty and who’d bet against Elon Musk - that guy is on another level.
They were thinking lots of journalists and the need for rapid recharging. Have to use Ionity as VW group part own it and charging is probably bundled. So it was MK or one of the other 12 Ionity UK sites (Is MK the only multi charging provider location with Ionity in the UK though?), Gridserve’s hub might have been a better backdrop though.
Ok, build a HUGE factory, make millions of tiny cars, sell cheap with similar tiny profit per unit, go bust. Or Establish the tech using a smaller factory, make fewer more expensive cars with a better margin and use the profit to build the "tiny car" factory? Option 2 works.
I do love the way this looks, the interior is excellent as is the technology and the range. Give it ten more years and there may be an affordable EV option from Audi
Well, I think Milton Keynes has a charm all of its own, so I'm not with the criticism. LA has tall exotic trees and the Hollywood Hills, but MK has roundabouts and Central Milton Keynes. Come on.
Essentially a world 1st drive of the car. Amazing that RU-vidrs can claim anything LMAO. I don't know if you were the first to drive it but I can tell you that I saw at least two other publications which posted their own drives at least 12 hours before you uploaded yours. Do the search on RU-vid if you don't believe LoL
@@TheLateBrakeShow Jonny I was just busting your privates. Been a subscriber with all the RU-vid channels you've presented for. Enjoy your content but more your unique personality. One thing I wished was that Audi gave you an true exclusive drive on a pre-production like you had with the Taycan. I really enjoyed that video!
Are working indicators a new Audi feature, just for this model? Or have they always had them? The great thing about Audi going electric is they should be able to drag their reliability up to other manufacturers levels. Nice looking car, just like an Hyundai from the front. Bit harsh on Milton Keynes.
As an Audi fan and Quattro owner, if I was buying an electric car this would be the one I would choose, trying to look it up on the Audi website only takes me to a chunky SUV with the same name. My biggest detractor from the electric car revolution is having to have a so-called "Smart Meter" fitted. Each area is divided into 1 of 3 phases on the electricity grid, each phase has a capacity of 100 Amps and that could be for 50 houses. To charge an EV can take 50 Amps, so the smart meter rations the power. Imagine arriving home with 10% battery and plugging it in, to find 7 hours later your turn for the power hasn't come round yet! You would only need 3 EV owners per phase to start this problem, I can't imagine how it would work with 5 EV owners on 1 phase. This is a big setback that no one is addressing so far.
To have a car on-test for just two hours and still be able to produce a quality review like this is just excellent. Well done Jonny! This car looks absolutely incredible.
Design? Cramped back seat and smallish trunk for a car weighing over 5,000 pounds. To be designated great a car should look amazing from the outside and check boxes on interior. Pedestrians seemed less than impressed as to exterior visual. I keep waiting for a head turner new design. The Alfa's and Bugatti"s from the thirties, Citroen DS and SM and of course the E-Type. Forgettable and will be dated in 5 years. Love your station Mr. Smith.
@Viktor Sligo Welcome to the 21st century! Seriously though, Viktor, evs are more relaxing. If you plan your route on a Long trip the right way you will hardly notice, and if you are not stopping now, you probably should be. Doesn’t work for 200km range, but 400 up no problem.
Like the dash, dials and the back end. Not sure about the front end. But this is a very long, large and expensive motor. If I had that sort of £ I would buy the Porsche. But I don't. So very happy with my #Hondae
I'm guessing no one will EVER sit in the back seats or the front passenger seat much either & its bloody massive! Thanks Jonny - great review, as always.
The huge front overhang got me too. The cutaway diagram/animation shows all the hardware and drivetrain behind the front edge of the front wheels. I guess BIG money expects BIG car.
a £30k saving on the Tesla. What's not to like? I wonder what the people who don't have off road parking at home will do when we all go electric? If I owned a car company or was in charge at Shell or BP I would start buying up all the NCP carparks and fill them with chargers. If you cant charge at home then you will have to charge when you are at work.
Just watching Bjørn Nylands review of the e-tron GT RS. He only had an hour with it and it had been snowing fairly heavily. He did manage to find the release for the Froot. It's a button on the trailing edge of the drivers door card. Quite a deep froot.
Maybe they will sell more if they come out with the regular VW "Passat" version, but I agree VW won't sell many of these high end versions once Mercedes and other competition hit the market.
Great looking car if only it had an ICE under the bonnet. For the time being we have no infrastructure in the UK to enable these large EV's to be at all usable. As for urban the last thing we need is enormous vehicles like this congesting city centres. Thank you.
Great video and gorgeous car but we all need to stop going on about charging networks. Most people very rarely travel 100 miles in a day let alone 200 miles. It is important to have home charging as you need to treat the car like you would any other electronic device i.e. keep it charged up when possible.
Sorry but the tesla model s cannot compete with this and the taycan. These are beautifull, great handling, luxury sport electroc gts, the tesla is a hyper fast cheap looking ev car. Thats a big difference. Tesla is leading jn performance batery managment and range, but as a car audi and porsche are better in every aspect.
Same great standard of review we've come to expect from you Jonny 👌🏻 I'm still not convinced by EV's more from a cost aspect but that's probably one of the best looking Audi's they've designed in recent years
