They probably changed it for homeowner emissions where as the 4910 was basically a 501p. Hopefully the 501p stays available so we can still get the pro series!
I would be fine with the 4920, if it didn't weigh so much more, I'd like to see what you can do with it. Also cool to see that my filter setup flows slightly better that stock because that was never the intention behind it. It was always just for better filtration.
@bigfootandbananaman4746 when will you be making more kits? also would you be willing to sell the files for a private use print only? (not to resale but to make my own?)
I will definitely say you've stepped up youe video style & editing. You can tell you've put work into the production of your videos Joe. So Salute to good sir!🤌 Great informative video.
Thanks for making this informative video. I've been using the 4910 for 3 years in forestry maintenance. Using an 18" bar & 20" bar. Basically the same as the 501P, but $100 less. Very satisfied with it because of the lighter weight. Regardless of what you choose, definitely invest in a set of captured sprocket cover nuts. Well worth $10. I lost one of the original non captured nuts on the second day of using my saw out of the box.
The air filter I got from them has been great. I only have maybe 6 tanks through it though. Have to blow it out frequently like the stihls, but atleast it isn't sucking fines through.
Had my 4920 for a few months now and cut probably 40 good size trees down with it. I like it.. easy to start every time. 4920 really doesn't have an "on" switch.. It just has a push button shutoff.. Pick it up 6 pumps on bulb and start it.
I would be good to see the 4920 ported. I would also be curious to know how much the muffler alone is holding back the stock 4910 compared to that muffler that is on the 4920 looks better flowing. Thank you for the comparison and testing 👍
Thanks for the info. I've had good experience with my stratified combustion Stihl gear economy wise but the extra weight doesn't make up for it for me, especially taking into account the plastic clamshell construction- blech. I think I'll quite happily stick with my 501P.
Thank you for the informative comparison Joe. The 4910 is ground crew mainstay in my tree service and i'd be happy to buy 4920s too except for the change in bar mount. What a pain.
If Echo would make a 90cc, 60cc, and a 50cc version of the 7310 without transfer caps that would be awesome. I tell that to the distributor every chance i get.
The K095 bar mount on the 4920 is a nice change, but not much else in my opinion. I like that the 2920 (K095) & 7310 (D009) have Husqvarna bar mounts now. If I replaced my Jonsered CS-2152 (K095) & CS-2165 (D009) some day, I could use the same bars. I do place some value on that. It becomes a pain for those wanting to use the 4920 & 4910 together, however. The 4910 was one heck of a value. I hate to see Echo cheapen it with the new model.
@@driftlesshunter9200 well, before I bought the 545, I was about to become a 501P guy. My Original idea was a 620 and a 501/4910. Then I got too good of a deal on the 545 😉
@@oakiewoodsman That makes total sense! The 545 has been a great saw for you, too. I probably crossed paths with you, because I was looking at 60+cc chainsaws. The 620 was catching my attention at the time. I've held off on buying a new chainsaw, because my dad said I could use/have his Jonsered CS-2165. I did a little work on it, and bought some new Holzfforma bars & chains for it. Wonder where I got that thought? 🙂 I just haven't used it much yet. I like your combination of chainsaws. I learned some good things from you, too! My CS-2152 & CS-2165 look nice together if nothing else!
Not sure that will happen just due to sales numbers, 40cc pro saws dont move well on the US market. MS241, 543XP, and CS-4310 all look like great saws but are too high priced and niche options here.
A plastic clamshell replacement to a pro grade type machine. Great move Echo🤦🏻♂️ I do like the new air filter style on the 4920. At the end of the day, we were fortunate to have a great value in the 4910’s and 590’s while they lasted. Looks like those days are over.
590 is still a great value compared to other brand offerings. And there are still 4910s floating around but supply is dwindling. There are a few left at the dealership i work at. 7310 was a steal when they first came out at 850$ the supply chain and labor issues over the past few years ruined that though.
This is indeed a bad move, but to be expected, Echo made the mistake of having Two saws almost identical, we are lucky they did not bring along the 4920 back when they introduced the 4910, now they have one pro grade 50cc saw, the other not so pro but still a good saw. I have had three 501 echo saws, won't be getting another in this size, no spring antivibe and difficult to get parts. Sadly I will be moving on to Husky or Stihl, where I can find any part, waiting two months on a muffler deflector, for an echo, complete joke given I also asked for a quote for a CS621sx at the same time and no response yet either, and I already bought two echos from the same dealer, not good enough.
@@johngardner3020 I wasn’t insinuating they were going away(although the 4910 is). I was claiming Echo kinda made a mistake producing essentially 2 pro model grade saws at homeowner price.
Bummer, as the old 4910 and 490 were so light. And, muffler modded/ported were really nice small saws that worked great for smaller firewood (think old man saws). Now, the 4920 is about the same weight as any consumer clamshell. I'd like to see you port it. I'm curious how the cylinder attaches, how to raise compression if it is a true clamshell (pop-up?), if you need to take the transfer covers off to get the lowers to flow better, if you change the timing, do anything to the strato ports? Yeah, I'd like to see your approach to the clamshell. I'd also like to see Charles Brisco mess with it too. But, he always builds real spicy saws for fun, to max them out. I'd like to see you do something "less is more" not for max power, but just easy for the average guy without a lathe. Thanks for the video.
I ported a 4920 about a month ago. They are no 4910 but they have good throttle response and the torque is not bad. Bummer that you cant cut chamber bc of clamshell but it runs pretty dam good. I opened the lowers a ton to get more fuel to the top, the exhaust has a funky shape to it so fixed that and set numbers accordingly, and lowered intake. The limited coil is also a bummer. Its a nice little saw but again its no 4910. I might for the hell of it weld a pop up on the piston and machine it back down and try to bump compression. For testing purposes lol
From a distance, i do like the looks of the 4920. Not sure i like it better than the 4910/501. Wish Echo didn't follow suit of Husky and Stihl going clamshell, would be more understandable in it's price range if it was a little lighter than the 4910. Thanks for the comparison!
It seems that the only brand being able to remake a saw lighter so far Is stihl with the 2016-ish 261 update. Keeping the fact that with a good balancing and handing a Little more weight Is not noticeable as well
Its good to see you working with these. I would like to see what a ported 4920 runs like. Does the 4920 just have a larger gas tank when compared to the 4910? Although, 14oz more weight is alot for just the tank? The aftermarket air filter set up is trick! Great vid!
Do you warm saws up prior to the run? just wondering if that initial bog from the 4920 is caused by load or not. thanks love watching all your results....AND MODS lol
Disappointing to see nearly a 1lb increase vs the 4910. Not as good of power to weight ratio, but nice bump in torque. I prefer the 4910/501. Would love to see a ported 4920 vs ported 4910
It seems like they've introduced this because the 4910 was too close in specs to, and in competition with the 501p/sx which I assume they are still producing. Those two saws were way too similar. This is more of a homeowner saw totally different design and application. If you like the 4910, just make the small jump up to the 501sx.
I have a 4920 cuts good what else maters to a home owner cutting a few cords of firewood. If I made a living cutting wood I would have a saw that was 8or 9 hundred dollars instead of 400 bucks
New style looks cool but come on man clam shell? Real bummer not to mention the dang outboard clutch. No logger or tree guy I rebuild saws for like outboard clutch.
Yeh, the outboard helps keep the heat away from the crank case. If it doesn't gain awesome power the 501 will be the only good choice for ported echo 50cc.
I'll add that most average "box store" chainsaw purchasers are not like the chainsaw community, and will see a red saw that looks like an echo, and it will be fine for 90% of the average consumers. They won't even notice the extra weight.
In California as of Jan 1st, 2024 you will not be able to purchase anything 45cc or under. CA is forcing all “homeowner” type people to go battery. As a result, everyone is purchasing what they can before it’s too late.
The 4920 is very similar in outward design to the 4510, which I started with. I've been very disappointed with it, the physical build and features are lovely and it starts very easily but it runs like shit, always bogs down and seems like it can't breathe. Hope the 4920 isn't the same, though it rather sounds like it might be.
Ty for this. Finally twisted my arm enough to get a 4910. Seems like the new model is a downgrade seeing as the pro saw features in a bargain priced saw, have been done away with.
I seen this saw advertised a few months ago but I did not know it's a clamshell design. Echo why replace a solid built saw like the 4910 with that .. I know why not enough sales of the 501 and the clamshell is cheaper to make therefore more profit as for it having more power I would rather have quality. Why did they not just keep the 4910 and just tweek it like a new air filter set up . . I am an echo man but I certainly would not buy this product
The average consumer has issues figuring out how to start a saw without a purge bulb and the 4910 is too good of a deal so they moved just to the 501. It is unfortunate for the enthusiast but a decent move for the consumer. Wish they both had a better air filter though.
It could be echo moving up market too. The CS4310, 7310 and now 4920 have new design cues, better filter designs etc. I suspect some of these improvements will show themselves in a new 50CC echo professional saw.
I'd be curious to know on the filtration. It's the same material/flocking, so I bet it still lets fines by. Unless they have a prefilter deal going on?
@@ricksanchez7459no pre-filter, the 4920 is a 50cc consumer saw, when i asked the distributor they said it is because ECHO's main focus is the lawn and landscaper market, not arborist and logging.
I would like to see a different aftermarket 620 filter. Red beard one is a little too big diameter and foam on top and bottom is basically touching the top cover, so it’s harder to get cover on and off and not getting as much air as it could. Would be nice to see a bit of clearance. I am sure he just designed it to fit off the shelf foam. I would have paid even more for it fit primo!
I had the air filter mod on my 501P and it worked well until it didn't. One of the ears for the carb bolt broke off and I am now back to OEM. I think they need to use a more durable plastic.
