60 dollars is what it costs now, but when it first came out it was 70, and most games cost about 70 dollars now compared to 60 bucks before the pandemic hit.
Even worse is that people who bought the premium edition or bought kombat pack 1 are going to end up spending $30 more overall then people who only bought the standard edition and will get the khaos reigns bundle for an additional $10. NRS and WB aren’t even trying to pretend they care.
It is too difficult to find channels like this that possess sensibility and actually make sense of things. Dave's modern gamer take is far too true lmao
Having to pay another $50 for dlc, on top of the $110 I payed for the ultimate edition, on top of the money I paid for Sidel's voice and various outfits through mtx, and yet STILL. THERE IS STILL NO ONLINE PRACTICE MODE. Is mf mind blowing. They not only think we're fools, but we really are. To think mfs really bout to buy this. Crazy. Not I. Not until I see some major improvements. No rooms too bro? Like only thing to sum up how I feel to nrs is 🖕
Unfortunately, 99% of people are shills and/or are very, VERY stupid and will throw money at WB/NRS no matter what they crap out. Things will never change.
Yeah, I would imagine the ultimate addition year 2 expansion and then all the store items put people well over $300 that’s just mind-boggling! I’m not ripping on the people that spent the money either. I’m guilty of spending a good amount. No denying its incredibly predatory though.
Bro exactly. Mfs that paid that much should be getting AT THE VERY LEAST, discounts. But nah we don’t get absolutely anything, unlike MK11 AND MKX. 😅shit is embarrassing and I’m finally seeing people talk about it. Fuck that, and nrs thinks a free scorpion skin fixes that??? Hell nah.
@@edd4131it’s funny how they gave us free scorpion skin lol my thoughts is because scorpion is not as ok as sub zero tbh so they want us to play scorpion more after the skin or somewhat but still 🤷♂️
@@dec2567 female characters are not DEI. The problem is that Sektor and Cyrax were never female and now they’re not even cyborgs. Just women in iron man suits. It’s been 13 years since Cyrax and Sektor were playable in Mortal Kombat and THIS is how they bring them back? Absolutely ridiculous
You guys are misinformed on this one... The Khaos Reigns expansion for $50 includes 2 things: the story add-on, and KP2 (6 playable characters). What they specifically said was, is that you can NOT purchase KP2 separately... as in, you cant buy JUST KP2 for like $30 or $40 or something, WITHOUT the story expansion... you HAVE to get BOTH, if you want the "package deal." Otherwise, the individual characters from KP2 will most definitely be available a la carte, AFTER the early-access period (for the people who DID purchase the whole expansion pack for $50...) Then, any patch update AND the Animality pack will be free to all, regardless of any purchase of the Khaos Reigns expansion pack. Hope this helps!
They just need to make a guest character fighting game ! Taking up 10 slots instead of adding Mk characters is crazy to me Idgaf about how much money It makes the game has made enough and as history shows them making more money makes them lazier the next game
NRS company went overboard with the guest characters(Completely waste of slot) instead of bringing real MK characters, they're going this route now. I don't know what to say about this subject.
They know the game is a steaming pile of shit, which is why they're covering the shit with strawberry frosting. No MK player cares about celebrity crossovers. They're so lost as a company.
The price is too much in my opinion. The expansion probably won't be that long, around five to eight hours if that. You could probably complete the expansion in one day. You're only getting three characters at launch, two of which are gender swapped and not the real character, with three DLC guest characters, none of which are available at launch.
They're not allowing the characters individually because they know most would boycott the "sex swapped" stalwarts. Most would buy the guests and nothing else; and even if they bought all six, that's $30~$40 U. S., at most. That's why they're trying this tactic of sucking in the FOMO afflicted to begin with; then, six months or so later, piecemeal divvying the content.
The only guest character I really liked was spawn and I would love to see him return. I’m also thinking about giving this game. Another chance I dropped off a month or so back but I want to play it competitively and I’m such a diehard MK fan. It’s hard to quit on MK but gosh, this one is such a disappointment.
@@atcandotherthings4985 I do and I still play the 3d era too. I still play MK1 because there are things I enjoy in the game, but after dropping plenty of money on the game, I definitely have every right to be disappointed and want better out of the series.
I think this DLC is NRS attempt to play hardball with the consumers…People buying characters al la carte doesn’t help their bottom line so they doubled down on the guest characters to justify them forcing you to buy the whole thing and raising the price…50 dollars is WILD . I don’t know why they think this is a good idea when the game is already in a bad place with the competitive community and now they’re trying to stiff the casual fans too..I’m definitely not buying it😂😂😂
It's confusing to me. I agree with Tom about the payment model not making sense. If you're gonna put soany guest characters to appeal to people that aren't necessarily MK fans, it makes zero sense to force them to buy all the characters at once and the guest characters don't even come out until months later, because it loses the casual appeal. If someone would have been interested to play as Conan because of nostalgia, they're far less likely to do so if it's gonna cost basically as much as an entire game for a bunch of characters they don't want. And it also doesn't appeal to the invested fans much since there are only 3 MK characters and, any opinions on gender swapping aside, the reality is, if you change a character too much, for a lot of people, it doesn't have the attachment they had that would have made them want to buy that character anymore. Like Janet Cage cannot replace Johnny Cage because they are not actually interchangeable, so for some people, they effectively announced a DLC with 1 MK character that holds any nostalgic weight. It doesn't make sense to me tbh. If they wanted female characters, they could easily have used any of the already established female characters people already care about and I think half the roster being guests is too much if you can't purchase individually.
60 bucks got you the MAIN roster. MAIN story and Invasions. About 100 usd got you you extra fighters and kameos. Now they want 50 bucks for a short story expansion and only 6 fighters and no new kameos They’re ripping us off.
I love Mortal Kombat, but I didn't buy this game. If you are disappointed with how NRS is handling the future of this game, you should not buy this kp2. If you do.. you should probably expect to pay for the characters, skins, and their SPECIAL MOVES in the next game. They're gonna keep pushing it until you push back! Vote with your dollar.
Gotta correct you guys. Some people waited like 4 months after the games release and only paid like 40 bucks for the 110 dollar release. The price for this expansion is absurd. They should at least discount those who pre ordered the 110 dollar version of the game. It's also pretty lame they're locking you in with one set price without the option to pick and choose what you buy. Keep pissing off your player base NRS
I learned my lesson with MK11, don’t buy the game when it comes out, WAIT UNTIL THE END OF ITS LIFE CYCLE AND GET ALL THE CONTENT IN THEIR FINAL ULTIMATE EDITION 😂😂😂💀💀💀
The fact that they have priced this expansion at 50 dollars is ridiculous 🤡 Shadow of the Erdtree was ten dollars less and OFFERED much more than what the hell NRS has been shitting out. People that paid this price used to got skin packs and shit on top of the expansion, but now it just feels bare bones as hell. Such as with KP1. All these voice packs and skins should’ve been free for KP1 owners or even just DISCOUNTED??? A little “hey thanks for supporting our half baked ass game.” Wouldn’t hurt. Lmao
My brother, I just made the same statement to best friend. Its crazy that shadow of erdtree cost less but brings more to players with is crazy. NRS and WB have lost their minds fuck Sweet baby inc
@@CrimsonPhoenix-blaze bro I’m so sick of it, we would get cool skin packs for our money, and now we have to pay for skins on our DLC CHARACTERS that we already paid for.
Also $69.99 is the price of new games nowadays then you got premium editions for around hundred or more depending on the game. The days of new games being $59.99 went ways when ps5 era came.
50 dollars for a story dlc in which it doubles down on the most hated aspects in the base story, with realistically one character in which everyone happy while everyone else is either not either the same premise, not even wanted or straight up annoying in other factors as well as not even fitting the quota. Not to mention those characters are not what we are getting when kp is released. And you have to pay 50 dollars. It’s exactly like aftermath, not worth the money
I am loving this new vibe Tom is giving out. I understood the negativity, but it’s awesome to hear the change and excitement in his voice again. Tom deserves to be happy with MK again.
For all who think there is a future for mk1 dont. After expansion NRS going to take all your money then pull support from mk1. Mark my words thank me later
Also if you've been soo mad with the decisions MK has made them why are u still mad when u get word that change is coming? U just wanna complain about everything. Your input gave nothing worth mentionin
@MioDoxi No dumbass, he's just an MK fan who had hope for the game like me and once we saw the newest trailer we were disappointed because this is just not MK anymore. It has changed, you're welcome to stay in this glitchy, multiverse ass game if you want but it's not mk anymore. That's why the brand is going to be sold.
@@MioDoxi the true is that the game is awful, so little content and repetitive invasions, i regret buying it, im ready to move on, i havent played it in like 6 months, hope this flops and make nrs reconsider their choices
Just wanted to say I really appreciate this channel and it's passion/honesty about modern MK. I've been a fan of MK for most of my life, but these last few releases have seriously left a bad taste in my mouth (and it seems to only get worse). 50 bucks for a series of glorified, non interactable cutscenes, only 3 actual MK characters (with lady cybers being questionable as "characters") and 3 random guest characters that arguably shouldn't even be in this game, is pretty ridiculous to me. This is on top of the fact that we had to pay 70-110 bucks for the base game plus random skins and past dlc which included characters like Shang, Ermac, and Quan chi which SHOULD HAVE ALREADY BEEN IN THE GAME. Without even getting into the terrible story and paper thin gameplay, I'm honestly surprised people still defend this game when it's a clear money grab and waste of time. So many other things NRS could've done with this series (Shaolin Monks 2 anyone?) but its gotten to the point where its no longer about the games or the story, and thats pretty sad
I was going to buy the expansion, but £40 British Pound Sterling? That's almost the same price as UNI2. I can buy Guilty Gear Strive at a lower price than that. I can get SF6 on sale right now for £24.99. There is no way in hell that I'm dropping 40 quid to be disappointed by NRS continuously over the next year just to play Noob on launch
Tom; with as boring as gameplay is..... It's not worth $50. Not to mention the fact that the guest characters Are Not exciting at all. I'm 52 & I know what all the characters represent & I dont care. NRS just took the laziest route & used things they already had in their vault. Arnold's face, T1000 voice etc. A new offline mode would have been a better bet..... But I'm sure they'll make millions & NRS will keep being lame.
Oh Tom... you underestimate people's stupidity and willingness to waste $50 for ONLY Omni-Man or ONLY Ghost Face or ONLY Terminator, etc. Also, Tom, you are objectively wrong for 6 half-assed characters and a few story chapters being $50... it was crazy back when MK11 charged $40 for their expansion, and it's even crazier now...
Ed boon said they are working on a another new engine thats a upgrade from mk1's engine. Based on that i think we expect amother 4 years till another game is released. Maybe 3 cause covid was also a reason for delay during the making of mk1. But atleast this time we maybe get more content then we got for mk11
@@V-95K yeah but it's prolly gonna be injustice 3. And they would have to make that from scratch anyway cause they like to keep injustice and mk different so they wouldn't just go mk1 with a injustice skin. And they would prolly like to bring new mechanics to injustice that they didn't do in the previous ones.
That's not true, he said whenever they start working on a new game the engine they are going to be building it is going to be whatever is the latest UE. Mk1 is built off UE4, Current newest UE is 5. UE6 is set to release around 2030. Hope this helps.
@@Krasiox and Ed quoted engine 5, and we know they are working on a new game cause specially if they are trying to stay up to date they need all the time they can get for working on the next game and learning a new engine. And he's not gonna come out and say we are working on a new game but we know cause it's just the way they always do it.
Yep, it’s smart business move for WB to do that. If you want the expansion and certain characters you’ll eat the cost for the part of the expansion you don’t want.😳😑👎🏾
They way thing are going I wouldn’t be surprised if they release a Kameo pack farther down the line and it’s not included in this pack so they can make more money lol
I also thought it was too much until I thought about games that have characters for $8 and then they released five of them and then if you was to buy all of them. That's $40 etc . I guess it's kind of where prices land right now
All the KP1 characters are going for $7.99 in the store right now and the kameos $5 a piece. Thats $73 if someone purchased all that individually. Even still if u bought KP1 for $40, $50 for what's included in the expansion is a hell of a deal 🤷♂️
What NRS needs to do in this midway point up until the expansion drops is add extra strings and those extra special moves to characters that we saw in Invasions as well as add a few legacy moves to all characters. Reiko's spear twirl and throw and his counter-clockwise kick from MK4, Reptile's ground crawl😂, Ashrah's OG flying drill stab from Deception, Havik's head roll and OG self inflicted leg break projectile from Deception, etc.
Its true they dont really give much promotion for the dlc's but the ones who are invested in the game are gonna find out info anyway and i don't think everyone wants spoilers. If people are gonna complain anyone then its pointless to show everything when their gonna have to change things in a week anyway
Unless they confirmed it somewhere else, the expansion trailer only said that KP2 won’t be sold separately from the story expansion and it was not stated that individual characters would not be sold separately. That would be a pretty questionable business practice.
All I want is Noob honestly, if I have to pay another $50 for characters that I don’t really care for in an MK sense (ESPECIALLY gender swapped cyber ninjas) to get him is totally fkcd
Tbh as a Havik main it’s been annoying to get no love for him, hopefully something changes but I’d be lying if it wasn’t frustrating at the least especially when online people claim he’s mid to high tier so we’ll see
I was done with MK1 until I saw the Cimerrian , god I'm so hyped. Conan, what is life? TO CRUSH YOUR ENEMIES, SEE THEM DRIVEN BEFORE YOU AND TO HEAR THE LAMENTATION OF THIER WOMEN. They ain't ready 🤣
In my opinion any player will be happy to have the option to get hands on new characters. Personally I want to try em all. Maybe unexpectedly Conan will fit my playstyle, even if am not interestedin him. If they sell all the content in the pack "a la carte". It would be a nightmare if we have to pay separately to get a stage, a skin, a character.. I think it's good as a pack.
To debate Roofmonger point players were more excited for FUJIN as DLC in mk11 than Joker and Terminator with the exception of spawn as he was the most requested since 2013 Don't underestimate the power of MK lore when unmolested. After all its what sells the game NOT guest characters injected into it like a turkey. Because if they SOLD MORE NRS would've made a game centered around these 80s 90s icons by now The guest characters need MK... MK doesn't need them to sell
Have you ever been able to preorder individual characters? Don’t they always sell the Kombat pack first, and then the characters are sold individually as they come out?
Well Tom it’s only worth it if you want what they’re offering. A good number of folks have to eat the cost of the whole thing when they may only want a portion of it. But it’s smart for WB…shady for folks that only want certain things out of the kombat expansion.😳🤷🏽♂️
Yea out of whole expansion I want Noob Saibot and t-1000. I would also want Cyrax and Sektor, but NRS decided to WOKE THEM UP by BS gender swapping, so I don’t care about those two anymore… and then there are Conan and Ghost face, don’t care about those two at all… so probably I will buy this expansion when it will be discounted at ~80% like the game got 70% discount 3-4 months after the release, so the expansion definitely will get one, probably even sooner that the main game
There is a question in my mind last days. Would have I swith from mk11 to this game if it was not mk. Completely the same unfinished broken assist fighting game as it released but new unknown universe and new unknown characters. Would have you guys?
I've already purchased the kombat pack day 1. I like the direction this game is going, but I'm not entirely invested in these guest characters. I'm going to wait to purchase individually
They may throw a few Parthian assists once they've unofficially abandoned the game; given that they won't really have to balance them at that point, and they only need a few moves each. Irrespective, the game is on the cusp of being abandoned -- WB always move NRS onto the next project during the release phase of their games' expansions... Boon has confirmed as much.
I really like Rooflemonger but he really loses me whenever he starts wagging his finger over people just not liking guest characters or just in general crossing the line of being defensive about some of the unfair flak MK gets to just being a fanboy. I can get the argument that yea, Predator and Arnold’s Terminator probably added way more value to Mk X and 11 than a regular MK character dlc choice would’ve but who the hell legitimately looks at fucking Ghostface and goes “yea this’ll sell MK1 like crack cocaine.”.
Most mk fans don’t care for the guest characters tbh it only sells to the boomers. Rooflemonger has beef with Tom or just doesn’t like him much. He made a hit piece on Tom a few years back because he took a out of context clip of Tom saying the. N word in a non hateful way.
When i started playing mk deception, armageddon, and 9, i probably spent more than 1000 hours playing those games trying to learn it, and my cousin was the one helping me learn, and never was able to beat him or to even get near his level. I thought he was an amazing player. Now looking back, he was actually a very bad player compared to the actual decent ones. Now that in actually good at the game, i got my friend into mk1(his first ever mortal kombat game), it took him 5 months to get to elder god with raiden kano, and 6 months to get to elder god with lui kang lao(which he learned a month before). The power in this game is nothing, learning this game is the easiest thing a person will ever do. I still cant believe my eyes when people still call for nerfs for characters. Johnny was nerfed on 6 SEPERATE OCCASIONS, peacemaker was nerfed on 3 and he wasnt even out for 3 months at the time. U want to blame someone for the downfall of this game, blame the players
i'm sorry 50 bucks is asking too much for mk1 expansion if the base story was meh and year 1 of mk1 was disappointing if it was 30-40 bucks then it is reasonable but 50 NO because MK1 launch felt like a alpha and rushed. you want me give WB and NRS a second chance i'm sorry no first impressions matter
More proof of the rampant greed at nrs and WB games ! Sadly people will gladly fork over their credit card and say yes ed boon abuse me !! Ohh please ed grape my wallet ! Take all my $$$$
months ago i randomly asked if there was a way to disable fatal blows because after an hour of gameplay i was bored rewatching the same noninteractive scene and was met with ridicule by a few users is there really that many shills out there? any negativety is attacked?
@@slipstream7324 NRS is defended by a legion of shills that will attack you for giving even the slightest criticism of their so called masterpieces. Its been this way for 6 years now and is getting worse. That's what this channel is about partially, the war between honest critique and the blind shilling that's taken over the community.
@@InterstellarBountyHunter521 i wonder if it's people paid to do so by WB or it's just that the ultra violence attracts those types? i like the series for the aesthetics and like the brutals far more then the xrays and fatals
@@slipstream7324 A combination of both from what I've seen. Large channels that get paid to play the game and say good things about it combined with their followers and people who just can't stand to see negativity at all.
@@BattleBrotherCasten bro yall like to call it criticism but u can’t say that while calling the game terrible, dead, and other words like that ion play tekken and street fighter but ik they have problems too ion see ppl calling those games those words it seems mk gets trashed when its a good game even sonicfox said its good and he knows fighting games
@@BattleBrotherCasten plus I been saying gaming now it’s weird a game drops for 2 weeks it’s good after that ppl start saying all these problems let’s bet when gta 6 drops it’ll be the same thing watch!!!
@@straightcaniven906yeah nice straw-man arguments. Not everyone who criticizes MK1 has said the game is “terrible” or “dead”. SonicFox isn’t some end all be all authority on everything MK. Also, SonicFox themselves has criticized MK1 a few times on social media, as well as many other NRS players. Here are a few reasons (without calling mk1 terrible or dead) people have criticized MK1 - Player 1 advantage at launch (recently fixed) - Constant lag and desync issues online - No cross-play (only recently added) - Lack of online training - Poor matchmaking options for ranked - Non-existent matchmaking options for KOTH and player matches - Lack of single player modes (tower, story, or invasions) - Poor balancing between fighters and kameos - Lack of customization options - too many micro transactions for cosmetics and skins Lastly, donkt know why you’re bringing up GTA 6. That’s a different game produced by a different company.
Would love guest characters from other game titles. Like jago or fulgor from killer instinct Jin or kazuya from tekken Fox or long from bloody roar. As examples haha.oh well
I see where you coming from Tom, but the guest characters will sale, just not in the way you explained obviously! But there are people out there that will pay that to play as one person’ and thats the goal of NRS! The guest characters will sale the game instead of the game selling the characters
Not the biggest fan of kameos, but I could see guest kameos being a thing and looking pretty cool. But a kameoless mode and/or a tag mode would be a big deal
The game was only 110 if u bought premium edition($70 for the base game, $40 for KP1). $50 for KP2 and the expansion is actually a deal seeing how all KP1 characters go for $7.99 a piece in the store.
i agree with tom and roofle, we’re def getting ripped off just based on the price looks like character are almost double the cost now they used to be 5.99 6.99 ive always had a wait and see attitude when it comes to dlc after mkx it went downhill as far how they put it out….HOWEVER i literally bought the kombat pack for injustice 2 STRICTLY for the ninja turtles bro 😂 lol soooo i know there are ppl out there when they see ghostface in a MK game?? that’s going to be an insta-buy
My issue isn’t the pricing, it’s what we’re getting with it considering how the game released. A story expansion, new stages, animalities, and 6 characters (3 on release). That’s content? How many times are you playing through the story? Like really how many times? Give me something to do, give me different game modes. If Capcom charged 50 dollars I’d understand, look at how much there is to do in SF6. I cannot speak for Tekken 8 because I haven’t played it yet. But NRS charging that with MK1 in its current state is not worth it.
@@lazyalpaca556 just think about it, with KP1 out of the way they have time to add to the existing characters and every other area of the game up until the expansion's release. That's why new kameos aren't being shown yet.
Who is your guest? He doesn't seem to grasp that people don't like Cyrax and Sektor, not because they're genderswapped, but because they look like cheap plastic power rangers. Just a terrible downgrade for our iconic, menacing death machines.
I’m sure the “hidden /surprise character “ is going to be Ash Williams , they were talking about it few months back or a year ago and all of a sudden disregarded him , somewhat hype but it’s not going to be the “oh s&$@“ of MK1 😅, they just holding back big time and charging all this amount on top of an unfinished game 🤦♂️ Smc nrs
1 guest character per kombat pack can be a guest character but 3??? Nah. Like I was really hoping for at least night wolf especially with animality’s, but instead we get 3 guest potentially filling that spot. I don’t like it.
The only thing i like about the second kombat pack is Noob and Conan. I don't like that Cyrax and Sector are women now, but even more I don't like that it's another MCU rip-off and they are no longer robots, but Ironheart or whatever. It's very stupid. I watched Scream and T2 as a kid (and i love that movie) but honestly Ghostface and T1000 feel like very odd choices, like they just ran out of ideas. The whole approach of having 3 characters now and 3 later and no kameos feels like the end of mk1 support which I wouldn't be surprised. If you still believe everything Ed Boon says then you're delulu.
This Game was made for Sonic Fox and all the Sodomites, the game is in an ok spot for now with this new patch, but it's gon get nerfed again when Sonic Fox discovers things other players can beat him with. Brownback is gonna make sure it's done, that's why I don't like this game because Battyboys are having too much say in this game.
I wholeheartedly disagree with Tom. Mk cost like 70 bucks, 22 characters, dozen cameos, dozen maps, 8hrs story, invasions, online. Dlc is 20 bucks less but is a quarter of the kast, no cameos, 4 5 hours of story, and you get it in pieces. NRS is asking for a fuckin loan on dlc for nearly the price of a whole game. Insult to injury half the pack isn't even related to mk. This should have been 30 MAYBE 40 and given up front, not in installments
First 🎉 comment!! 50€ for 6 characters and some story expansion and stages is a bit high ngl , but I do hope you get a option for more dlc character skins within that 50$ it would have been nice to buy character separately though I bought the ultimate edition for kp1 so that 50$ extra seems a bit high ,you got a major dlc for elden ring for 40 dollars with at least 40 hours of extra gameplay and over 100 new weapons/ playstyles i feel 50 is a little high ngl , I am really hype for T1000 I wanted him as a dlc character eversince I have been a fgc member so it's cool for me regardless 😀
