This could be a HOME RUN for larger families (3&4+ kids) by making a few simple changes. Change the front room into a two bed bunk house OR two twin beds instead of a king. Delete the front bedroom bathroom access and leave it as a hallway entrance. Instead of a single mattress in the loft, put two smaller twins (as an option if you have more kids). Then upgrade the rear bath shower surround. That’s it. It would be FLAWLESS for me. That kitchen is perfect for my family, so is the seating area, could add a couple of beanbags or those inflatable chairs for the kids and easily have a family movie night. Heck with a plush area rug and a bunch of pillows the kids would be thrilled. Is the living area tv on a full motion mount? Otherwise I’d just add one.
This is a really nice fifth wheel camper. I like the fact that a lot of companies are going towards the 12 volt compressor refrigerators like this Norcold instead of residential fridges. Thank you for sharing.👍
I really like the living room arrangement and the kitchen was well thought out as well. The garbage exterior access makes a lot of sense and saves you from spilling garbage out onto the floor. How high is the ceiling in the back bedroom??? I like the general layout of it but at 6'6" I don't think that I could comfortably stand up in it!!!
Instead of making those shelves shorter in the cabinet in the kitchen, that you’re talking about, make it have pull out shelves. That way you can reach the back of all of them easy.
nice unit. The rear bathroom needs a little adjusting though. The rear tiolet shouldve been angled into the corner for more leg room and comfort. Im 6'4" and dont see that usable for myself or anyone over 5'8". Otherwise it looks nice and well thought out, nothing really earth shattering new as there are quite a few dual bedrooms setup similar from other rv makers at this time.
Love everything except the u-shaped kitchen - way to cramped & constrained for me & hubby to cook in. Otherwise love the 2 beds & baths, good living room & loft space.
This is the best unit of all of the new ones I’ve seen with the two master suites. You missed the storage underneath the ladder stairs going up to the loft. Great place for shoes or your large air fryer and instant pot. Very impressive. I can’t wait to see how full time families make use of everything here.
Why not a back door for the back bathroom on the end? So whomever is in the back bedroom can exit their bedroom from the back. Plus why no storage under the master bed?
Great layout. Night stands next to the beds. Do you use a cpap? I do and you have to have direct access to the control panel to turn on and off. So whenever I hear someone say, oh you can put them in the overhead cabinet, they have no idea what they are talking about. To be upfront you didn’t not say anything about this in this video. Thanks again JD for another informative video.
We also look for CPAP space. Think they will be sitting on the corner of the mattress. But in cabinet over bed sounds good to me if there was an outlet. Turn it on, get in bed, put on CPAP.
Wondering if a Ford F250 could tow it? It says I can tow up to 21000 lbs., but the hitch says 2,100 pounds, says nothing on how much I can load on the bed of the truck for the 5th wheel.
I have a question and can't find the correct answer to it. I hope you or the chat can help me, but I was wondering whether you have to get CDL to drive a Ram 5500 if you are only towing your own things. I am getting a River Stone in the next year, but my father is getting older and has heavy equipment that will be coming to me; of course, he still wants to use it when he needs it. I just became his storage, lol. I need to get a truck for my 5th wheel and his equipment when he needs it. This is why I am looking at a Ram 5500.
As a tall guy (6’7”) I really wish more models followed the keystone alpine approach with the dual suite layout without a loft. I like not hitting my head on the roof!
Honestly, lost interest when he says they put 7k axels on a 16k GVWR camper. You basically have to replace the axels on day 1 as these are under rated for the GVWR.
Why? 14k total axle capacity. Roughly 3k on the pin, means you can load your RV with over a ton of stuff and still be fine. Most might load around 800lbs.
Unbelievable how much they can fit in the amount of space. I noticed in the living space they used wood trim around the windows like another make started doing. Really adds a nice feel.
It definitely needs a dishwasher for this size and price range of coach! Also, I don't like that there are no corner cabinets because the space back in the corner is hard to get to and impractical. Why cut off the corner of the 1st cabinet (wasted space)? The control panel needs to be covered with a decorative panel because that is too ugly! Also, the trash bin is worthless because you would have to cut up pizza boxes and larger trash items. Plus, I don't wanna have to lift that heavy counter every time I need to throw away a little piece of trash. The only way this would be workable is if it had an automatic lift with a with a extra large pizza box size opening. You're not gonna be able to feed the amount of people this coach sleeps with a small pizza! I'd rather see a corner cabinet with a lazy Susan underneath.
The requirement for a combo washer/dryer and not being prepped for separate units is a deal killer for me and many others. Maybe pass that along since your suggestions seem to carry weight with some manufacturers. I do appreciate the TV straight across from the seating. Been looking for a toy hauler with that and they're few and far between.
The idea you posed about the pantry, making shelves not as deep, and creating a closet for brooms, etc. Both trailers we've had had no place for cleaning tools. Love this fifth wheel!
I was sold until there wasn't a door on the back to access the back bedroom and back bathroom. The other companies have that. I am totally in love with the kitchen, Livingroom and master bedroom. I'm in tears!!!! That back door to the back bathroom gave kids bathroom without entering the rest of the unit.
I kind of like that. We have an 18m old who is very clever and I worry she may be an escape artist later since she is already apparently a climbing expert so not having to proof an additional door for her is a plus to me
Thank you for such a good presentation! I really like this, Rv. Just a thought, the bathroom has a lot of open the wall space that could be a massive amount of medicine cabinets like WOOD with mirrors on the front of the middle sturdy shelves inside that would be a really big plus.
Just my opinion--- When they paint the cabinets it makes it look so cheap. I come from a time when if you could not afford real hardwood you had painted cheap cabinets. Again just my opinion and i understand if they were not selling they would change. I agree on the 1 ton but think a dually would not be needed. Our Seville has similar weights and my 3500 Denali HD with short bed ordered with max tow/payload handles it fine.
That is the first residential fridge I have seen with built in lock/latch. That avoids the need for an aftermarket option. Great idea...odd, it wasn't mentioned in the video. Also, odd that with all of the talk about the pantry, no reference to the built-in light(s). Another great feature that doesn't seem to be as common as it should be.
That one kitchen cabinet that you open the door of has no shelves in it it’s just one big cabinet. It would be nice if it had three pull out drawers in it.
We're about 30 days into full timing in one of these. So far, zero issues, very impressed with quality/manf. Some things to add: 1. Ours came with a 390 solar on the roof, but the only controller/monitor is in the front (not pass-through) storage. Inconvenient. Don't know if this is standard, but believe it to be as: 2. The "residential size" fridge is DC powered, and remains cold on battery when moving. 3. External shower via the blue coil hose, with an outlet on each side of the unit. Cold on passenger, hot/cold on driver. 4. Some limited storage under loft steps. 5.. All storage, including pantry, has motion sensor lights. 6. Living room TV on folding swing out mount for better viewing from driverside sofa. 7. All outlets on CGI, one behind recliners, and one in bathroom. Kinda wimpy trip point, but safety first I guess. (No issues running w/air fryer, coffee makers, tv's, etc) 8. Two black dump locations, front/rear, one gray dump incorporated w/black at front. I hate this, but we love the two bathrooms so... 9. Gen prepped, standard. Very large front storage without gen. 10. We opted for the Gen-Y gooseneck hitch, love it. 11. 3 AC units, but two are above the living room/kitchen. Might have been better served putting the 3rd over the bathroom, so opening direct vents would quick cool the back half of the trailer better.
I was wondering in comparison to the 390DS which model do you think is better? I know I want a fifth wheel and 2 bds 2 bath with a loft but I’m having a hard time deciding. Thanks for the input. And the video❤
It would be wasted space either way. Just air over head. Good for little kids or laying down gaming for slightly older kids. But I don’t think we would use it either. Son grew up 😊
It could be a great attic for overflow storage, such as holiday decorations for full timers. Or extra food storage for Mad Max times! Coming soon to a highway near you. Lol
@@gretchenoppriecht189 Mine would probably be stacked fairly tight. You could always put a bungee or other type of cord across the opening of the loft.
Wanted to know if this floor plan has a shorter model - 36 to 37 ft? I love the U shape kitchen! It’s got everything I’d need, except for a tub in one of those bathrooms.
A true 2 bedroom 2 bath unit, if that is what you need. Very nice all around. Need a partition between the wet bay hookups and the pass through storage on the driver side. No toe space at the floor under the kitchen appliances and cabinets. Big miss. Good call, JD, that pantry is a bit too deep.
