I just did a testdrive with this bike yesterday, and I think I’m going to purchase it. However, I did find that the saddle was quite hard. A different saddle and suspension seatpost are necessary, in my opinion. Once again a fantastic video, Propel!
Soft saddles cause lazy bones when biking for ling periods of time. As someone who’s lived in The Netherlands for 20 years now i can confidently say that a stiff saddle is something to get used to, but once you do after about 3 months or so you’ll never want anything else and it’ll save you from back pain.
I bought my mother's Gazelle Citizen 3 years ago. A great e-bike. She used it on holiday's in the mountain. It has a 'mountainbike' feel. I use it for my daily commute. No hills, but plenty of wind. Saves me two work weeks in commute time every year :)
I’m the proud owner of the Eclipse C380 in burnt orange and I love it. Yes it’s not cheap but what is these days? It’s a real workhorse, I’ve carried heavy loads on it and cruised uphill effortlessly. I’d strongly recommend it.
I have a gazelle c380+ ultimate, and the only thing I’d change is make it low step instead of mid step. Personally I’m never buying a bike without a belt again, it’s a total game changer. The one issue I have with gazelle bikes is that the rear rack is not MIK compatible, so you’ll need an adaptor for even first party accessories.
Rear racks are now MIK compatible. Great bikes. One odd thing I noticed, is that the Enviolo gear shifter has the little graphic display - I was told by my local bike shop that Gazelle had stopped fitting them as they were prone to breaking (the little plastic bit, not the shifter).
Low step add some slight wobble to the Ultimate. Also the Enviolo has much less gearing which is a problem on steep hills. I find those two points to be negatives to my C380.
I have a new 2024 Gazelle C380 Ultimate. Not the + version though. Because in the Netherlands speed pedelecs are basically threated the same way as mopeds/scooters. Mine IS stepthrough, has the suspension fork simular to this eclipse, and a very simular MIK HD rack aswell. I've got some ortliebs panniers mounted to them on the lower pannier bars. What i like about the ultimate is that the battery is mounted 180 degrees compared to the eclipse. So you can mount the bottom of the battery first, and then the top. The keyhole is at the top aswell, so it is easier to take the battery in and out, it's quite heavy so this makes a big diffrence imo. The c380 with the gates belt is a fantastic combo, my Ultimate has the new bosch performance line motor, with 75Nm. Also comes with the kiox 300 display like this eclipse. So far it has worked flawlessly. The only downside i found is that the frame does wobble a bit if you let go of the steering rack, and once you hit top assistance speed it's quite hard to go any faster. It is VERY consistant though, so its really easy to cruise at its top speed and stay there. Even with strong headwinds you leave everyone in the dust😂
As a bike shop owner you will know the answer to this. I think it could be a great video to make as well. You mentioned in this one that the Enviolo adds around $500 to the price but has less maintenance. What are the maintenance costs for eBikes across the different drivetrains? I've got a Rohloff for 4 years now with zero drivetrain costs since and 8000 miles. What would a similar derailleur eBike under load cost to keep up over 4 years?
I test rode this bike while my Nevo 3 was being serviced the Gazelle Eclipse is a fabulous riding bike and very handsome. Lovely bike much thought planning and meticulous execution went into the Eclipse.
I’ve tried this bike out myself. I love this bike. This bike is an absolute serve. I have the previous Gazelle C380+ HMB. It’s so low maintenance. It’s my go to bike here in NYC. Highly recommend the Gazelle Eclipse which is the 2024 version of my bike.
Nice bike, and I’m glad European brands are recognizing riders in the US want class 3 e-bikes. Could do without that proprietary stem though. Ones that feed cables and hoses through are more difficult to work with when you need to replace one. Looks more sleek, but at a price. Edit: I forgot to say it’s good seeing an ebike review from you again!
The versatility aspect that you mention. Commuting, running errands, touring, hitting some lighter trails. This is what I wanted from my single bike and that's why I ended up with a Moustache Xroad 2 smart system. Does everything I want to do with my bike. This Gazelle bike is a really solid option! Glad to see you back!
Great looking bike. Looks very similar to my R&M Nevo with belt and variable assistance. I would be interested in a comparison (not that I am thinking of changing anytime soon). As an overweight 64 year old I love my bike and as I live in the hills in the UK could not consider a non assisted bike. A different note Good to see you releasing content again. I particularly like your considered approach to transport. Cars are not bad, but we do need to try to separate the two modes of transport infrastructure for cyclist safety. This is particularly difficult in the UK as we are a small island that we were largely built for horse transport. But is Holland can do it then so can we. Keep up the good work.
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-iEaiTNvFWQs.html. It's 380%, not 380 degrees, meaning the highest setting has a ratio that is 380% higher (in other words 3.8X) than the lowest setting.
Question. As far as the upright position goes, is there anyway to make it more like the Avignon C380B? I like the riding style of that bike, but I really like the features that this bike has, including the hydraulic assist brakes, whereas the other one only has regular disc brakes. Thank you!
@@ozimarco yeah, they were great when Paul van Bellen was distributing them but it fell apart when they switched to a large national distributor. Kalkhoff and other brands fill that spot in the market well.
Just bought this exact model!! Love everything about it so far but the incorporated battery. You didn’t show if the powertube has a handle to carry it or if that is only in the step thru model. My battery is not nearly as easy to remove as you made it look. I’ve reached out to Gazelle NA about this actually. Just curious if would show more of the battery incorporation between the two models in a short possibly??
Can you review the specialized Haul LT with throttle vs other LTs and explain if the new turbo Porto is better than the haul LT trying to see if a class 1 motor on the specialized turbo Porto is better than the class 3 haul LT trying
No ones gunna vandalize a bike, wtf do you live where that happens? Ok maybe in a few of those liberal cities with the police defunded and no laws enforced.....
I rented a gazelle C3 80 for a day and love this bike! To the author - dude I love your reviews, but you’ve started up speaking. That annoying habit of speaking in question marks ?
Ive had no problems with Bosch, and Ive swapped every part on my bike. That stem looks annoying though. I find the people complaining about Bosch are the ones that want it to go 40 mph. Bosch isn’t gonna let you do that so you might be better off with Bafang. I Have the performance speed and the 85nm and 28 mph assist is more than enough.
You are freaking right, I’m stuck with serial one, because I can’t get a suspension fork for my bike 🤦🏽♂️, not to mention that they forgot to add google to their first generation of their ebikes 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Bus racks in general!!! I bought a Kalkoff e bike back in 2011 and tried to take the bus, too long for the rack. Is this problem with all e bikes or just my bike. I would like to use my bike in different areas and just riding the bike to these spots would be multiple days getting there. I would like to use the bus sometime. I do have a Brompton so I used that, but really do the manufactures see this problem or even care.
Do you think Specialized could be persuaded to bring the Turbo Porto to the US? (or for that matter, is Propel equipped to help with ordering one from Canada?)
Is it IP rated? The new Velotric Discover and Nomand models are IP66 rated with an IPX7 battery pack and is less than a third of the price of the Gazelle Eclipse! This is a dealbreaker if it does not feature such an unparalleled IP rating!
Wuss 😁 seriously though, just get out and ride. The more people out riding the more car drivers get used to it. My city is getting better although you will always get some shitty drivers. Use bike paths as much as you can and try to avoid busy roads as much as possible. Take care
I ride on bike paths as much as possible or on sidewalks when it is not crowded with pedestrians. There are some times when I am forced to ride on rodeways and I am always very nervous when doing that. There are too many drivers who don’t pay enough attention behind the wheel for me to feel safe riding on a rode with cars.
@@714mattman just keep it up, you'll get used to it. Learn to signal and how to ride defensively. I've been riding to work for 15 years + now with only a few scary incidents and a couple of calls.
@@timscott3027 Nothing can save you from inattentive car drivers. I can do everything right and still end up dead. Best thing is to stay off any roads with speed limits above 25mph. If I cannot find a way to get where I want to go without riding on higher speed roads then I just don't ride there.
@@714mattman I'm sorry that you feel that way. Do you know that you could have a heart attack tomorrow? Or get cancer. Or get hit by a car whilst walking down the pavement. Don't live your life worrying, we all die eventually, just enjoy yourself. Take care and have a nice day x
It helps a lot to have large wheels when riding over potholes and other imperfections in the roads. On a perfectly smooth path there is a very good case to be made for smaller wheels
@@monowheeling I have ridden on a 26" fat tire ebike, a 27.5" 2.35" wide tire ebike and a 20" 3" wide tire ebike. Even with a slightly narrower tire I found the 27.5" tire bike much better on badly maintained bike paths than the 20" tire bike. Just my experience. Yours may be different.
Yes it’s available in the UK. I ordered the low step belt drive model in orange. I currently use a non electric Brompton but having read the raving comments on here I can’t wait to receive mine. I’m based in London btw.
@@90210blackman yeh but you have to register it with DVLA, moped helmet, license plate, insure it, as its a speed version and limited to road. I would go with the 250w legal version.
I wish they would stop with the weird rack options, making it hard to swap out fenders and racks. Plus the batteries that have covers that are attached to the battery, make it harder to buy a second battery for longer miles, since you have to swap that cover too.
Yes, I agree. I’ve got limited mobility in my right leg following a motorcycle accident back in ‘89. I currently use a non electric Brompton and because of the low stem I find it a seamless affair when dismounting. So when I placed an order for the low step model I was advised by the shopkeeper that I may struggle to get off the high step model. The low step model is really ugly and it’s a shame that Gazelle don’t do a mid step model which is the best of both worlds. Easier for disabled people like me to dismount and more appealing on the eye. Considering its eye watering price it’s a shame that customers don’t have a greater choice of frame sizes.
