NEW GOLF BALL VS SCUFFED GOLF BALL TEST... | 2024 SRIXON AD333 

Surely the wind resistance would be the variable which would affect the distance on scuffed balls? (A rougher surface would struggle to travel as far through the air). This wouldn't appear in a sim test. I'd be interested in seeing an outdoor test with them to check this, as I can't see a SIM measuring this 👍

In the winter I use anything.... not really fussed coz its poor conditions but in the summer and in comps I use the kirkland. It plays well enough for my standard of golf. A pro V1 isn't gonna stop a massive high handicappers slice, just hurts more losing a 5 quid ball vs a £1 ball

Hopefully your test is correct 👍🏻 maybe the aerodynamics played a part on their test which obviously in a sim it’s not affected with it only travelling a few metres. Would be interested in an outdoor test once the rain stops 😂

Hey Gary. Like the idea of video. You will only see these kind of results when using trackman outside. The scuffs will affect aerodynamic s i.e increased drag and poorer aerodynamics. Be intersed to see my golf spy show video results of such tests

I play "found golf balls" and haven't found a difference between old and new. I do find some differences between brands and models but that's down to differences in spin. I've been skeptical of the robot testing and glad to see your results match my experiences.

I've been using the RZN tour, 3 piece ball for about 12 months. £22 for 12, urethane cover. Good on the greens and the right compression for the average golf swing and I'm a very average golfer. I've tested these against Kirkland, chrome soft, Tp5 and pro v1 and I get more distance with the RZN and they are equal to the other balls on the green.

Being a high 17 handicapper I can't justify spending a fortune on high speck balls, I use inesis distance ball's at 7.99 a dozen (yellow) great for winter. May go to srixon when the summer months come. Enjoy your channel, and Mr Robinson's channel, thank you for the tips and entertainment, trying to get my driver over 200 yards to bring my handicap down, senior golfer but think I can achieve this before the new season.🤔

Brilliant Gary you’re so honest in every aspect of your work. Keep up the fantastic work mate.

Hi Gaz In the winter, I play with whatever balls I have to hand, I'm currently using a Vice Pro, which I found. I have to say it's a decent ball. In the season, I use a Pro V1. In my opinion they are the best balls all round. Plus, they seem to be very durable, so unless I lose it, I can easily play 6 rounds or more with the same ball. I've usually lost it by then though😂

I'm not a physicist, but I'm fairly certain the yardage difference would be lost on the air rather than off the club face, meaning that, because the launch monitor only monitors launch, the aerodynamics haven't had a chance to play its part of slowing the scuffed balls down, therefore reducing distance in an indoor environment

Yes Gaz you are being tight 😂 Get yourself some Vice Pro Plus in lime green fella ❤️ I play them now because they do something that no other ball can do and that's play like a ProV1x but easier to compress. They aren't so low spinning they fall out the air on the long clubs they have got really good greenside spin and feel great off the putter. I the lime green they stick out a mile which means they lower my anxiety if I'm walking towards an errant shot and I can see it immediately and that is a huge plus.

You can't go wrong with ad333. I think the higher end balls may be where you see performance differences

I've never found a noticeable difference between a scuffed ball and brand new. I play used ProV1s. I buy 5 dozen once a year on Black Friday when they're discounted the most. I buy the previous model in 5A mint. They are all brand new or hit once or twice and usually have a random logo. The price is about half of a brand new ProV1.

An earlier comment about aerodynamics is a valid point your test can't replicate on a launch monitor. The scuffs create flaws in the ball that in the total flight cause friction and resistence in the air. The launch monitor will not allow for this hence no comparable difference. That said, 30+ loss in yardage from a drive seems excessive and must be a badly scuffed ball. The main issue to be impacted is likely to be flight path (fade/draw) as, like a mud ball, you'll have a imbalance in ball weight uniformity. Interesting test though.

This is the video I have been wanting to see for ages but most RU-vid rs refuse to do because they are sponsored by a ball manufacturer and the last thing ball manufacturers want is for more people to start buying 2nd hand balls and remember most 2nd hand balls have just been found and have never been anywhere near a lake personally I can't hit any ball that has cost more than £2 because I loose my nerve well done Gaz can't wait for the pro v video

I use the Callaway superfast, it's $24.99 for 15, not 12 and it reacts great off the putter, spins plenty with the wedges around the green, and has great distance. My buddy I golf with a lot loves his pro v 1's and would not try anything else but one day I hit a chip shot up a damn near cliff side and stopped it dead where it landed and he decided to try the same shot with the extra ball I jad in my pocket. And as soon as he hit it, before it even hit the green he was like wow that ball feels awesome. Two rounds later, guess what ball he was pulling outta his bag

You asked what balls we play. I use the AD333 and sometimes Soft Feel, Srixon for both. Why 2 slightly different balls, short answer is during winter in Cape Town the AD333 start to feel very hard so I switch to the Soft feels. Carry distances are about the same for scraggy balls compared to new. I also tend to buy "pond balls" a good majority of which are "only hit once". LOL, but i find that the longer I play with a ball they start to feel softer and less controllable with short irons. So I'll usually put a ball that's seen 5 or 6 rounds in the scrag bag. Then I donate the bag when full to the beginner kids section at the club. PS I pay ZAR200 - 400 (Pounds 8.50 - 17.00) for a bag of 10 pond balls and once per year I splurge on 2 X 12 packs of AD333 new plus 1X 12 pack of Soft feels that I normally get hit for ZAR1200 (Sterling 51.00)

Wind resistance is the biggest reason for the loss of the 32 yards with the scuffed ball Gary. Foresight or Trackman won't be able to track that indoors.

This type of test would make more sense to do outside with a range finder. I don't think a launch monitor is going to pick up the effect on aerodynamic performance.

Your travelling down an interesting route looking into balls. It stand sense a used ball has more elastic memory ( been taken to its elelastic limit then returned). A new ball needs 60-70 shots to get really brike in. I have 250 3 piece, 300 2 piece balls all found. Only thing i check is Espon Slats to check the core position. If reading badly centered it goes in the shag bag.

I play the Wilson cheap long distance golf ball, I got 2 dozen for 20 US dollars during the holidays. Very forgiving golf ball 👍👍

Don’t normally buy new balls, normally pick up Pro V1 or similar in pearl or A grade condition, and always been happy. The only time I buy new is buying Kirkland. Just picked up the new version in yellow, can’t wait to put it in play. One of your best vids this mate, just an honest review. Maybe give it a go on the course when the weather gets better.

Really good video, Gary. I use a ball until i lose it, which means they rarely get scuffed much, but this speaks volumes for economising and buying used, but good brand balls. Keep up the great work! :)

I use either a Seed or Srixon toursoft ball Gaz. Very intesting result, I do think it's got something to do with the hardness of the AD333 ball. I'd like to see you repeat the test with Pro V1s if you could. Like you I rue forking out £45-£50 for balls. Tell you what near enough 300 yards total distance from a 100mph swing speed is going some. Great video mate.

Personally I use Pinnacle Soft balls Gary and have been for many years. Might not be your cup of tea as a pro but for me at 16 h'cap you can't beat 'em. They're made by Acushnet, from the same stable as your ProV's, buttery soft off the putter and around the green and long off the face. Best part is they're under £20 for 15 (yes, 15 not a dozen!). Try one out. If you don't like it, at that price, you can chuck it away!!!

I have found that a scuff on a premium ball has way more effect on performance than a scuff on a lower tier ball. It could be the thinner cover material or what the cover is made of but that is what I have found from my experience.

I'm a Seed convert. Been using the SD-01 or the SD-02 for the last three seasons. Price fluctuates around £23-£25 per dozen and they are decent and durable.

Hi Gary lhave used srixon marathon soft golf balls in the past 24 for i think for £20 they were very good also used seed country mile golf balls good too,enjoy your videos especially on rangefinders looking to get one soon still to decide cheers

Quite reassuring given I'm the same as you, in that i virtually never use a new ball as cant face losing them off the 1st tee and then end up playing with the same ball until i lose that one ! I do try and play with the same ball make now, as a few years ago I'd have 5 different balls and makes in my bag and pull anyone out !

I can't believe a player of your standard would buy lake balls! Almost makes a high handicapper like me feel stupid for buying good balls :) I actually do play the AD333 most of the time, if I want an upgrade in the summer months then I go Srixon Q Star Tour or Wilson Triad.

I haven’t purchased a new ball in years. Used any of top brands that I find as long as they are in very good condition

prov1 test is a must do. I think people need to know if the golfspy test was accurate or not.

Thank you for this test Gaz, I had a right sweat on worrying that I was going to have to buy new and stop using the balls that I find at our club. I would like to see you carry out this test with a pro v. AD333 is a very good ball

Aerodynamics…you almost need an outdoor test with a trackman or just walk and find it after hitting it. I don’t think quad will tell you indoors

I agree with a few people here, the AD333 might be that good that it doesn’t make a difference. When I’ve used them I’ve found them to be pretty nice. I’d like to see the difference between premium tour balls I also think that’s where the difference will be seen.

Gaz surely the ball speed isn’t the issue it’s the aerodynamics with the scuffed ball and it’s only relevant to drivers or long irons Try it outside and watch it vary in distance and dispersion. Not a fan of My Golf Spy but they did I a very detailed analysis of scuffed balls. Love your content though 👍

When I’m hitting a ball for a while on a simulator it looses ball speed. So after like 400 hits, I’ll use new balls when going for my max ball speed and you can straight away see a difference. It’s like the old balls get scrambled after a while. Also chrome soft are the only balls I’ve seen explode after a lot of hits. Never with a pro v. Thanks for the video Gaz.

In 2019, golf professional Alex Chiarella won the Mackenzie Tour’s Lethbridge Open (Canadian Tour) using the same ball for all 72 holes. He said he has his mojo working with that ball and didn’t want to change.

I have been playing with the Wilson Staff Zip. They are insanity affordable, and they are very nice. I was not going to ever try them until I found one. It's definitely my favorite "cheap" ball.

I’m like you Gaz. I rarely use new balls. I hate spending that much money on them. I’ve bought 3 dozen Srixon Q Star Tour lake balls and so far I’m happy. I did find a dozen Maxfli 3 piece balls I bought two years ago and forgot they were in a closet. I used one for probably 6 rounds before I lost it. It got beaten up but the distance never changed

Used the ad333 for over 15 years as my main ball Gaz, always been really consistent for me and never found a better ball. In winter and occasional rounds I will use up any other balls I have, which are normally ones I’ve bought and didn’t like.

You’re never going to see the difference using a launch monitor inside. The scuff marks effect the dimple pattern, which effects the balls flight. Launch monitors use equations calculated with in the first few meters of the ball flight. A proper comparison would have to be done outside head to head on the course.

From what I remember of the MGS test they said damaged balls missed more off line rather than distance. Balls that have been in the water for a long-time loose distance.

Proper Yorkshire man😂 Shall I set a go fund up page for you!!!!🤭

I recently bought some new Srixon Z star diamond and tested them against some B grade Pro V1 on my local course and I only lost about 3 to 5 yards between them. Actually, I played better with the Pro v1 than the brand new Srixon.

You’ll need to try a scuffed ProV1 to compare. I use Srixon including AD333, sometimes get nearly new found premium balls for around £1 a ball. I have some Mizuno RB 566 balls to try this Winter if I can ever get back out. I’d never pay £3-4 a ball & decent deals can be had if you buy in bulk or at sale times. £1 or thereabouts is enough for me to lose.

The problem with this test is that the Quad just measures launch conditions which the scuff does not affect. The scuff would change the aerodynamics of a ball and possibly it's flight. Using Trackman outside would give you more accurate information in this case.

I recently took advantage of Srixons buy 2 get 1 free sale. So $33 a dozen for Z stars. Last year I played XV on the same deal but decided to try regular z star this year.

Winter here in Pennsylvania and in the Fall (leaves) i use somewhat scuffed balls cause the chances of a lost ball are greater.

This needs to be tested outside. You will not see the scuff mark impact on the launch monitor. It will alter the flight of the ball through the air.

Do the test with pro v outside, but honestly I don't play with a ball long enough for it to get too scuffed, if I go a whole round with same ball I'm very happy, so I'm in the same frame of mind when it comes to buying new ones, and now I'm sticking with the Kirkland signature, cos if I can't find any cheap on eBay then buying them new ain't so hard on pocket, keep them coming mate.

Couple observations/comments… 1- the test really requires aerodynamics to affect the ball, so repeat it outside please. 2-I only use lake balls too. ProV1’s and I refuse to pay $70 in Canada 🇨🇦. 3-I shot my lowest score ever this past year (65) with an extremely scuffed ProV1X. It performed like new. Repeat this outdoors!!! I am very curious.

I use only DTC balls, OnCore, Snell, Sugar, currently using the new Sugar Pure $69 for 27 balls. I would agree actually hitting balls on the course with wind would influence flight a lot more than 7 foot into a screen.

My partner was a buyer for major golf retailer, she was assured by ball manufacturers that lake balls lose elasticity, reducing distance and consistency. Anecdotally, I have found this to be true. Your test was a used ball rather than a lake ball.

Happy New Year Gaz. Great strikes with your new driver.

Interesting given the MGS claims of 30+ yard losses. For an idea for a future test, how about comparing how well/badly a lake-recovered ball compares to a new or dry-recovered ball?

Another good ball TM tour response 👌👌

I use second hand Titleist Tour Soft, pay between 50p and and a quid, all parkland found. I'm seeing prices of second hand going up a lot, might be in anticipation of new ball shortages this year after the Taiwan golf ball factory fire and some ionemer shortage or summat.

Outside wind resistance while the ball is actually travelling the distances, would be the problem.. The Ball travelling 3 yards indoor into a screen won't give it time to suffer the resistance from the scuffs on the ball..interesting test if done outside, with the conditions to test right

Play with lake balls or what I’ve found on the round 😂 if it’s new it’s callaway supersoft or ad333 , use until a split appears if I’m that lucky - generally loose them way prior to this. Has to be said though I have noticed some level of drop off with an extremely scuffed ball , if held onto a chrome soft for a good while 3/4 rounds after it had been badly munched into a limestone wall and had to pie it off when it was notably going 20 yards less on drives / wood shots and hybrid shots - felt like with irons it wasn’t a huge loss but definitely path wasn’t as predictable

Great video. So what are we missing? MGS test results seem so unrealistic…

Probably need to do another vid outside as the wind will be the main factor re aerodynamics and ball flight I think..ball wise love pro v’s and tp5’s..used Kirkland as cheap but a ball I really rate and is a cracking price are Wilson triads..I think the triads are superb all round

I use AD333 scuffed ones go in the practice bag and are hit against the net. IMO pro-v1’s aren’t necessary for mid handicap players. They’re for very low and pros. I sometimes use Soft Feel too!

I use the AD333. I usually 'retire' a ball after a couple of months, into a water hazard.

Very interesting video, with an outcome we were not expecting.

Gaming Snell Mtb prime. Great value and performance in all facets of my game

I'm tight as well... I only play Inesis balls (I buy them new but then use them until they're really really scuffed and/or I loose them). The 900 tour when it's summer and greens are hard and I want maximum spin/control, and the distance 100 (probably one of the cheapest balls on the market, less than 10 quids a box). I'm not convinced with the "tests" that tell you this or that regarding distance on balls as my shots end up in pretty much the same place regardless of the ball I play, and spin is indeed rather different around the green but you adjust in 5 to 10 minutes max. I was already shocked by MGS testing as they said the Inesis tour 900 was the shortest "tour ball" loosing 30 yards compared to a proV1x left dash... In my experience there might be 2 yards between them. So scuffed v. new, pretty much the same: with my game I don't see perceivable differences that warrant buying very expensive balls.

I use chrome soft tru vi's yellow. Lake ball, suits my budget and ability. Would like to see the pro v 1 comparison see how that stacks up

Think if you check the video Gary, the strike was very off the toe, with some of the better shots with the 7 iron being with the scuffed ball, distance and efficiency looked better. The elements play a huge part with the scuffed ball, but with the simulator shots not being affected the same. My golfspy used a ROBOT, but also balls are hit onto grass, at a range. Did you put dots of the club and ball to make it more accurate, Gary. Water and mud, make huge differences, too, I checked the data when it first came out. As you said, the pro V cover is softer, so the scuffs damage the dimple pattern more, which is what affects the spin and flight, as you know. Older better quality 3 piece balls also lose compression more, based of what I have experienced, when a ball lasts a number of rounds. Hence, why driving ranges, that use older pre used golf balls, often fly up to 20+% less in distance.

Great content Gary interesting that keep up the good work 👍

Well now, I think you definitely have to do the same test with the pro V one ball that My Golf Spy used

Wilson Duo soft are my favourite of choice... i dont see the point of losing an expensive ball when i can lose a cheaper one.. my golf is good enough to warrant playing for PRO V1S

I play Titleist Tru Feel. I purchase the mint quality used balls online in bulk from a used ball seller. They look like new. I receive free shipping based on purchase amount. I play a ball until its lost or scuffed.

My Golf Spy is busted! The Srixon Q Star (available in the states) and the AD 333 (UK) are the same ball. I play Vice Pro, Wilson Staff, Wilson Triad, Wilson Zip, Callaway Superfast. I try others as well for fun. Still looking for the one that gives me everything I need. Vice Pro jumps off the club so does the Callaway two piece. Thanks

Not sure how true that is, also buying balls that been hit before are graded on how hit they have been, I buy top grade pro v1s generally £1 per ball for summer and winter yellow chromosoft also £1 per ball Nothing is more annoying losing a brand new Pro v1

Spoken like a true fellow " tight arsed" Yorkshire man Gary lol...... the AD 333 is my ball of choice and I do buy them new but at around £25 a dozen I think they present very good value and they do actually last quite a long time...well if you miss the water....oh and the forest on the right...then that stupid motorway someone put there,but you know what I'm getting at lol 🌟🎊🤩🥳

Like you I don't mind spending good money on clubs, but not on balls that after one swipe may end up lost, I like a Srixon Z star but will happily play a 333.

I'm playing Kirkland balls, because I lose a couple a round. I've bought some heavily discounted Wilson Staff models at Aud$50. I plan to switch to these after a couple more lessona

In Spain, I always play with TP5/5x, I feel it plays better in hot weather. In UK, I use ProV1 as my main ball.

I play callaway super soft. Love them they feel great and they are cheap like 24 eagles for a doz

Didn't miss many left dude. Is that the ball or the new shaft😊 Ps any thoughts re arching your back a little more when swinging.

Last 2 years I've stuck with the same model winter summer and my game has got better (coincidence) dunno mate I use Wilson staff model balls 75 nicker for 3 dozen 4 piece 👌👌

A wonder how much the rollback balls will be 😊well done gaz

Gary, the concern here, that the test was a pro v1, and not an AD 333. Balls are different, the seizing cuts up on my wedges, were as the pro v1 lasted longer.

I would say that I use scuffed balls and don’t see a huge difference from sparkly new ones! If you are hitting them great n straight then new all the time. But it’s easier to lose a freebie than a newbie. Happy new year Gaz.

I play the Kirkland neon yellow at this time of year, mostly of the price and greenside spin

Interesting test. Really good

Mygolfspy do use a robot out into a range in Arizona. Hitting thousands of shots. Hard to believe their numbers are too far off. Shame you can't get Maxfli Tour balls easily. Affordable and a great ball

Great video bud do it with a Pro V1 ⛳️

Normally Srixon Soft Feel or AD333 , I’m just about to try the Taylormade Distance +. I normally spend around £20 for 12 balls. Not at that level yet to justify buying 12 balls for £40-50.

Strike is so important with these type of tests. That scuffed ball will rip your screen quicker than a new one. With all the money we spend on golf, going with scuffed and water balls seems like a poor place to save cost. I feel better with playing Premium balls that I purchased on sale

I have seen quite a few short videos showing the affects of balls with scuffs , grass stains etc when putting and with what I’ve seen it effects the true roll quite significantly. As the saying goes , driving for show , putting for dough. Maybe you could do a test on that ! Good video nevertheless. 👍

I play ad333 lake balls. Around £1 a ball. Im not good enough to notice any major difference with a brand new ball.

It is worth noting that My Golf Spy does not use a simulator to test balls.

Would be good to compare different premium used balls and see what’s the best.

OK, after a little research, i can see why you didn't see much difference --- the Srixon ad333 has an ionomer cover, not a urethane cover. Meaning it's tougher, but won't spin as much. And as such, you won't see any pros hitting the AD333. You're going to need to find a pro ball (like the Titleist Pro V's, or maybe Callaway Chrome or somesuch) that has a urethane cover to properly do the test. And i'd recommend not getting a new ball and purposely scuffing it; get a new ball that's seen 12-18 holes of play. That's different than just banging it sideways off the cart path once or twice because 10-12 holes of regular play will dramatically degrade the slick newly painted cover. And it's that slickness, at least from what i can tell, that gives you the distance due to having less friction through the air.

Been playing five years now, never bought new balls off the shelf and play 2-3 rounds /wk. At first, I did believe I needed new balls as a beginner. Now that my game has "improved" somewhat, I am beginning to wonder if 🤔 The balls I find in the woods, generally, appear new. But, occasionally, some are scuffed from cart path/rock contact. I would be curious how these types scuffs affect performance as yours seemed to be just lightly scuffed.

Hi Gaz great video,

lmao you just put titilist out of business😂😂 next vid will be lake balls for sale i am only messing incase you didn’t now ❤

In a ball that looks brand new, or just slightly stained or scuffed, there is no difference. And you can save 30-50% easily. But as game improves you lose less and less, therefore have the need for less balls.