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Geoff Marshall
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Got to pay a visit to the new HSCC - that's the new Hammersmith Service Control Centre.
As part of the 'Four Lines Modernisation' programme, the H&C, Circle, District and Metropolitan Lines (the four sub-surface lines) are having all their trains switched to ATO, and the line control and signallers will all be moved here to Hammersmith.
I tagged along with a group from Thales ( www.thalesgrou... ) to have a look around before it opens!
More on the '4LUG' from TfL, here: tfl.gov.uk/tra...
Music by David Cutter: davidcuttermus...

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@rense1
@rense1 6 лет назад
I was really confused because I thought he was talking about Thalys instead of Thales. It would cause chaos, high speed Thalys trains trying to enter the station at Hammersmith...
@multiplio2924
@multiplio2924 6 лет назад
Same - those are some amazing looking trains
@adamstripreports9538
@adamstripreports9538 4 года назад
Finally, a good comment is at the top.
@ambivalent_hoax
@ambivalent_hoax 6 лет назад
You know when someone took the time to program in ‘leaves on the line’ algorithms, they take their job seriously.
@dexterdugarjr.3217
@dexterdugarjr.3217 6 лет назад
Jan Harvalík Leaves that trains run over kind of turns into a mush which becomes a hazard. Trains are far more likely to slip so they need to run at slower speeds to minimize that. Over here in NYC, the Brighton, Franklin, and Sea Beach Lines have the same issue and thus slower speeds are enforced during the fall.
6 лет назад
Offering the ability to switch to a lower guaranteed brake rate to be into account by the CBTC system to allow for slide when braking is a VERY brilliant way to manage leaves on the line ! Moreover, very probably the ATO system of the S Stock will also be programmed to request less adhesion rate when accelerating (limiting the tractive effort), anticipate braking and request a lower braking effort to avoid to put the train in a slip & slide situation. Both of these measures will obviously put the problem under control, all that a click away from the OCC !! Brilliant !!
@dexterdugarjr.3217
@dexterdugarjr.3217 6 лет назад
Stéphane Fontaine You know, I think that may be what the MTA was thinking when they decided to have the Brighton Line converted by 2024. Great insight nonetheless.
@cyberdonblue4413
@cyberdonblue4413 6 лет назад
The problem is mainly down to the use of disc brakes. The old style brakes - using composite brake blocks rubbing against the wheel surface - used to clean all the rubbish off the wheels as well as slow the train down, hence leaf mulch caused far less problems.
@lolzlolz69
@lolzlolz69 6 лет назад
Slowing down is only part of the problem. Getting traction in an area of low adhesion is also an issue.
@Robelne4
@Robelne4 4 года назад
I can't have enough of this video. I have referred to it in a professional meeting, setting, and it never failed me. Thank you for capturing all those small but crucial details. I am extremely proud to see that the design which my team and I have developed and produced come to life.
@domramsey
@domramsey 6 лет назад
Shame you missed the last part of the day. I heard there ain't no party like an S-Stock party.
@ATee-vx6dm
@ATee-vx6dm 6 лет назад
These random little insights into things I'd probably never get round to seeing for myself are what I feel RU-vid is for. Thanks Geoff :)
@Sam-lr9oi
@Sam-lr9oi 6 лет назад
"It clearly says keep out" Those words mean nothing when you have a high-vis, come on now.
@JamesWeetman
@JamesWeetman 6 лет назад
Why are they wearing in high visibility jackets in an office?
@bfapple
@bfapple 6 лет назад
It *is* still a building site.
@stanpatterson5033
@stanpatterson5033 6 лет назад
@ Chris Stephens.... that would be "candy ass" if you're going to use a colorful Americanism :)
@lohphat
@lohphat 6 лет назад
Because Hi Viz are the new Mormon Magical Undergarments to keep you safe in all circumstances. If everyone wore Hi Viz then hospitals would go out of business! If "it's still a building site" were true then they should have all had hard hats on too. Without any heavy machinery in operation in the area then this is just mindless bureaucracy.
@Mojo29
@Mojo29 6 лет назад
It is not an office, it is a Service Control Centre. The reason is because, at the time the video was filmed, the centre was still under construction and building works were ongoing. Since then, the building has been handed over and staff and visitors don't need hi vis.
@MagicaLucem
@MagicaLucem 6 лет назад
Beyond awesome. So brilliantly techy. A railway/tube geeks dream. The Starship Enterprise of the tube. Thanks for this!!
@joeturner1597
@joeturner1597 6 лет назад
It made me chuckle when you put on HiViz to walk round inside a building. I watched a film yesterday about the electrification of the North Clyde, my old stomping ground, and not a piece of PPE in sight.
@driftviews
@driftviews 6 лет назад
Not really. It's either that or little lapel badges that say : Visitor: must be escorted at all times. Which could easily fall off the lapel.
@WolfGratz
@WolfGratz 6 лет назад
And that would be the end of the world necessitating a major enquiry, Unless of course it really was the end of the world of course.
@captainjafuzz3341
@captainjafuzz3341 6 лет назад
Keep it up Geoff! I love seeing all the behind the scenes bits!
@marsgal42
@marsgal42 6 лет назад
Then there is the Canadian phone company Telus. They don't do trains; they specialize in high prices and poor service.
@tallman11282
@tallman11282 6 лет назад
Laura Halliday High prices and poor service? Sounds like a train service to me! At least train service in the US.
@polygoncartoons1599
@polygoncartoons1599 6 лет назад
Yay it's Jay!
@lipkinasl
@lipkinasl 6 лет назад
The project is called 4LM - 4 Lines Modernisation.
@williamg209two
@williamg209two 6 лет назад
I love jay!, i loved his 3 episode lonodon series, i hope hes doing more of them with you
@DexterKDC
@DexterKDC 6 лет назад
Thales took over Alcatel CBTC system back in the 2000
@jerryonmalm2328
@jerryonmalm2328 6 лет назад
Would love if you did more videos of control centres and signaling in general. I’m currently working with producing a new control system for the train service in the whole of Sweden. Approximately 900 stations and 5000 trains per day. If you ever visit Stockholm or Norrköping in Sweden again, contact me and I can show you our system ;)
@pandapaws3444
@pandapaws3444 6 лет назад
I wathch Jay Foreman also Geoff on both on his videos.
@themaconeau
@themaconeau 6 лет назад
Ain't no party like an S-Stock party .. :D
@Roboboy
@Roboboy 6 лет назад
S-Stoooooock... gonna show you hooooooww...
@ambivalent_hoax
@ambivalent_hoax 6 лет назад
How many of the hi-vis jackets you’ve worn in your videos did you end up keeping?
@DavidShepheard
@DavidShepheard 6 лет назад
I think we need a video showing all the PPE designs used on the railway network. It seems like anyone who is light blue, is not allowed to do anything inside the station or somesuch. There were a lot of them waving water bottles under my nose, during the Waterloo Upgrade.
@GariSullivan
@GariSullivan 6 лет назад
I can't help wondering: Why the Hi-vis? Who really needs to see the group members that well?!!!
@joncurtis199
@joncurtis199 6 лет назад
I guess it will be a controlled site who gets access and makes it a damn slight easier if someone tried to peel off from a large-ish group at any point. Get lost, end up unsupervised, get yourself wittingly into trouble and then the company is in trouble if anything was to happen to you. It is surprising how Hi-Vis does help draw awareness to a person in this way and in a controlled environment like a control centre for a tube line allowing people of the general public in, its not a bad thing. I know that answer won't be good enough for some people but my reasoned approached to it. They can stick to the "ramble ramble 'elf an saftee is madz"
@GariSullivan
@GariSullivan 6 лет назад
I have no idea what "ramble ramble 'elf an saftee is madz" means. I do know that it is possible to remove a hi-vis jacket - people do it all the time. It is also possible to get lost while wearing one and to ask for directions whether you are wearing one or not. Of course, if you are up to no good, you would have removed the hi-vis (using the technique perfected over many years using one's own clothing) and then stuff it behind a fire extinguisher. They don't reduced the risk of getting lost. They reduce the opportunities for crime. My question still stands: Why the hi-vis jackets?
@gdogg3710
@gdogg3710 4 года назад
I had literally no idea it was pronounced ‘Tallis’ and not ‘Thales’...
@LordInter
@LordInter 5 лет назад
"we did this and that and then went back to a 40 year old design" 🙄
@KamilsView
@KamilsView 6 лет назад
Great stuff, Mr Geoff. We need to catch up and maybe do a project together ;-)
@theonetruephil
@theonetruephil 6 лет назад
Do you think they will have a kobyashi maru scenario in the training room? :D
@metropod
@metropod 6 лет назад
The Canadian company is spelt Telus and is a telephone company founded in Edmonton and currently based in Vancouver Thales from France is an indirect descendant of General Electric (the American one) Also not the first time I’ve heard the two confused, as Thales is also doing the CBTC/ATO install here in New York (they’re currently finishing work on the #7 Line, which should be online by the end of the year) and someone said the same thing to me.
@Andi090386
@Andi090386 6 лет назад
Really interesting video Geoff. I know someone who bought the S Stock trains down to London from the Old Dalby Test Track. And the company he works for is taking the S Stock back up to old Dalby for the testing of the new equipment.
@jimthorne304
@jimthorne304 3 года назад
I believe this is located on the trackbed of the former line that ran from Hammersmith to Kensington Addison Road, and then on to Waterloo. It was closed in 1916, I lived in a block of flats built on the track bed in Shepherd's Bush Road. When it was working there was a footbridge connection from the Hammersmith and City line station across what was then the goods yard, and on to Hammersmith Grove station, that's the reason why there is a footbridge across the platforms at the further end of Hammersmith & City station.
@tomgill2095
@tomgill2095 6 лет назад
Jayyyyyy ❤
@kieronrabbettkentlightning9133
There's a kid near the end when you was talking on the stations next to the S stock train the kid was walking past ans he turned around behind you and stuck both middle fingers up at you towards the camera, how rude off him!
@simonprice8737
@simonprice8737 6 лет назад
Love the pictures on the corridor wall, and the LT roundel carpet, thanks Geoff as always fascinating....
@DenkyManner
@DenkyManner 3 года назад
These buildings are soul crushingly utilitarian. Corporate meeting sheds, a half step above an animal shed
@patricescattolin43
@patricescattolin43 6 лет назад
Thales is French not Canadian en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thales_Group?wprov=sfla1
@theogriffiths1984
@theogriffiths1984 6 лет назад
Wikipedia can be edited by anyone therefore it’s unreliable..
6 лет назад
I may confirm Thales is a French company, but their CBTC system headquarters are well in Canada, where the Seltrac system has been developed more than 30 years ago and installed on one of the very first Unattended Train Operation systems in the world : the Vancouver SkyTrain. That same Seltrac system -also installed on the DLR in the 1994 upgrade- has German roots : "SEL" in Seltrac comes from Standard Elelektrik Lorenz, a former german signalling company bought by Alcatel which itself has been bought by Thales. That system shares common technological roots with the german high-speed LZB control system. However, the Automatic Train Supervision system, whose visible part are the displays and mimic panels seen on the video, are developed in France (Vélizy).
@patricescattolin43
@patricescattolin43 6 лет назад
I my experience dealing with Thales, it's my understanding that they are French. They are definitely not a Canadian company.
@extrude22
@extrude22 6 лет назад
Simon Tay nobody in the UK makes such a system.
@franklinl4849
@franklinl4849 6 лет назад
In my experience dealing with Thales Rail Signalling Solutions, they are Canadian. Their parent/owners are still French.
@bbmikej
@bbmikej 6 лет назад
It looks like an airline control center, and I'm sure that isn't be accident. Very similar in job function.
@seraphina985
@seraphina985 6 лет назад
Indeed it's a rather efficient way of setting something like this up, similar work-spaces are used for things like controlling the flows in oil refineries, running power plants and of course the control centres for the various utility networks and telecoms operations centres etc.
@guib7852
@guib7852 6 лет назад
Hi Geoff, they are a French company but with Canadians working on the project and I believe its the 4 Lines Modernisation project (4LM)
@trainluvr
@trainluvr 6 лет назад
I love your vids (and trains). The safety vest theater of the absurd. Should have given out hard hats since you never know when a flourescent tube will drop from the heavens.
@NickPearsonCGI
@NickPearsonCGI 6 лет назад
Super cool you get to see all this stuff, You managed to cameo in Tomska's video this week too!
@lionzion86
@lionzion86 6 лет назад
This is pretty awesome though, gaining access to the nerve centre of an engineering feat run by a multinational, well respected firm. A dream job really!
@busspotting8266
@busspotting8266 6 лет назад
New Hammersmith SERVICE control centre opened in Dec 2017.
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 6 лет назад
Why on earth do you NOT need a high viz vest outside, but you DO need one to walk around inside?? It's health & safety gone mad!!
@feelgood2994
@feelgood2994 6 лет назад
AndreiTupolev IDK, but it could be their way of knowing he is meant to be there. Quick identification of an authorised person.
@keithhitchings8911
@keithhitchings8911 2 года назад
It is a French company partly owned by the French Government.
@AdamKyleAnderson
@AdamKyleAnderson 3 года назад
Many moons ago around '96 or '97 I did a time and motion survey on the London Underground. I spent 3 weeks in the signal box at Earls Court. BAck then it was nicknamed " Gods Office " I enjoyed every minute and it was a huge learning experience.
@renswalraven
@renswalraven 6 лет назад
Using only common sense: name one reason why you're safer with a high-vis on in an office like that? You Brits are completely bonkers..
@feelgood2994
@feelgood2994 6 лет назад
I think it’s less for health and safety, more for easy identification of authorised visitors/workers.
@TheJinx2012
@TheJinx2012 2 года назад
lol yes there was an intentional reason for the smiley face and a story behind it and its a great one but I cant be bothered to type it all out!
@supka1996
@supka1996 Год назад
Can someone explain; as this video is from 5 years ago (2017), how is then possible that at mark 07:16 on the screen there's a tube map with the Battersea extension, while this was opened only a year ago (2021)? Thanks 😁
@supka1996
@supka1996 Год назад
...and elizabeth line as well 😅
@pandapaws3444
@pandapaws3444 6 лет назад
What a suprise Jay Marshal :) (funny).
@michaelcollins6973
@michaelcollins6973 6 лет назад
I have to ask you who you are are who authorized your visit?
@straightpipediesel
@straightpipediesel 6 лет назад
As people have noted, Thales is French, but their roots aren't Canadian, they're American. Thales used to be called Thomson-CSF, and the Thomson part was the French branch of General Electric.
@owenchuarbx
@owenchuarbx 6 лет назад
Just learned signalling from my Singapore Technical College and Oh Boy. It sure looks great to have a new OCC for Hammersmith!
@ScoutZz
@ScoutZz 6 лет назад
jay foreman is the beeeeeeeeeest
@sgxpress95
@sgxpress95 6 лет назад
hi quick question, Singapore's 30 year old MRT lines (North South and East West Lines) are currently upgrading to the Thales CBTC signalling similar to those of London and Hong Kong but we have been experiencing quite a letdown in the project with the most recent a collision between 2 trains due to a signalling software error while the train was running on the new signalling system. apart from this there has been a spate of breakdowns relating to the new signalling system including an 8 hour disruption when a software reboot caused trains to halt and had its train run number and schedule write off from the data. i wonder if the underground lines running Thales CBTC had such issues when the system came "live"? or maybe have our transport authority been rushing too much for this project to be completed?
@AdamSalter93
@AdamSalter93 6 лет назад
Reminds me of when we brought the South Wales Control Centre in Cardiff fully into use last Christmas. Screens and Track Diagrams everywhere in a circular layout, just like the HSCC, and a basement full of WESTLOCK Cubicles which control the interlocking.
@WolfGratz
@WolfGratz 6 лет назад
No. Tallis, as in Thomas Tallis is spelt "Tallis". Thallis is pronounced "Thallis". Next thing you know they will be trying to get us to drop the "s" off Paris.
@MrPanagea
@MrPanagea 6 лет назад
Crazy how Thales can make this all work, but they can't get a 3km long extension in Edmonton AB to work without sending trains down the wrong track....
@discodavid26
@discodavid26 5 лет назад
Why is there a picture of the first saved penalty in a fa cup final next to the sofa chair that Geoff wanted to take home with him? A Wimbledon fan in Hammersmith?
@newcolony4013
@newcolony4013 5 лет назад
Tremendous stuff - I pass this place most days, spent a bit of time trying to figure out what it was and imagined it was a data centre of some sort. But curious that Goldhawk Road train time indicators so rarely work given located next to the control centre!!
@Goldie267
@Goldie267 6 лет назад
I walk past that gated off building pretty much everyday and I've always wondered what was in there! Nice to know the H&C line is getting some love.
@aaronlee2240
@aaronlee2240 6 лет назад
That was so random, just finished watching one of Jays videos then he appears at the end of yours! Do you know Techmoan, the slow-mo guys and the 8 bit guy too!?
@amirdawoodbhai
@amirdawoodbhai 6 лет назад
Answer to the gentleman's question heard in the background at 05:49 is when TfL or the DfT can cough up the extra money!
@MadnessIncVP
@MadnessIncVP 2 года назад
7:12 - 7:19 He's right, yaknow.
@themaconeau
@themaconeau 6 лет назад
I got the opportunity to visit such a place when I was a kid and being mesmerised by the sheer power of these systems. I could imagine it being something akin to a kid in a candy store for you ;)
@SportyMabamba
@SportyMabamba 6 лет назад
Trackernet is specifically disclaimed as not for safety critical decision making so LU signallers will use panels and other IT systems for actual control
@MartinKronstrom
@MartinKronstrom 6 лет назад
I think I would press on every single buttons. Beep beep beep beep!
@JLWestaz
@JLWestaz 3 года назад
Baker Street. Near Sherlock Hilmes?
@ChrisInTheNorth
@ChrisInTheNorth 6 лет назад
When I saw the title of the latest Geoff Video, I confess my first thought was I didn't realise Hammersmith took that much controlling.
@rogerhudson9732
@rogerhudson9732 5 лет назад
Very electronic, is it as fault resistant as the mechanical locks shown in the Cobourg Street video?
@RealJustinCrow
@RealJustinCrow 6 лет назад
Did you find out at what desk Denzel Washington sits at? (Pelham 123 reference lol)
@pandapaws3444
@pandapaws3444 6 лет назад
The crosssrail is now operating from shenfield to Liverpool street, it only comes often. But it looks new.
@hanredders
@hanredders 6 лет назад
Great content at the moment Geoff. Really enjoying the “behind the scenes” underground content. Keep up the good work
@mrichards55
@mrichards55 6 лет назад
Hopefully they can collectively figure out how to fix “normal congestion at this time of the morning”.
@PinderProductions
@PinderProductions 6 лет назад
Well that looks very cool, and useful.
@unknownregions5014
@unknownregions5014 6 лет назад
Love all your vids, keep up the good work! It’s so interesting hearing how it all works and how we are progressing.
@andrewshafer4838
@andrewshafer4838 6 лет назад
how many jobs will ATO eliminate?
@20quid
@20quid 4 года назад
Somebody please turn that training software into a video game.
@skunkw16
@skunkw16 6 лет назад
Thales is a French company, previously known as Thompson CSF
@theowinters6314
@theowinters6314 6 лет назад
Where would you find that real time display, cause it looks pretty cool.
@vincentliet7995
@vincentliet7995 6 лет назад
Thales is a combined dutch and french compagny ;-).
@rossssd4969
@rossssd4969 6 лет назад
Leaves on the line algorithms? What’s the point in even having a driver now?
@AndreiTupolev
@AndreiTupolev 6 лет назад
How do you find that realtime information thing Geoff was talking about? Trackernet or something?
@Cxp34
@Cxp34 6 лет назад
traintimes.org.uk/map/tube/skyfall/
6 лет назад
only Matt from the park bench was missing for me at the end :DD
@matthewb6916
@matthewb6916 6 лет назад
Can I just say, I love the new music you're using in your videos!
@beachhouse13
@beachhouse13 6 лет назад
Great video, keep it up! Also, I thought Jay was dead!!
@andrewholloway231
@andrewholloway231 6 лет назад
These are the sort of 'behind the scenes' videos that I enjoy. This is brilliant.
@Krblkn
@Krblkn 6 лет назад
I work on building the simulation software in Canada :)
@jameshallas1312
@jameshallas1312 6 лет назад
i don't know if you have any control over this but i am currently having to sit through a five minute, unskippable add from Mercedes to watch your video, this may well put people off watching your shorter videos
@jameshallas1312
@jameshallas1312 6 лет назад
Geoff Marshall I'm in the UK, i don't know if you choose as a content creator what adds are played on your videos but something like that could put someone off some shorter videos, I'm not hating on you, I'm just trying to give some feedback, I'm on a windows desktop if that makes any difference
@channel64_thename
@channel64_thename 6 лет назад
Did this lead to A1 journey video?
@SamSitar
@SamSitar 6 лет назад
funny when you asked for the couch.
@ldanzamariastile3536
@ldanzamariastile3536 6 лет назад
so whats with the orange vests if they're working indoors
@cjmillsnun
@cjmillsnun 6 лет назад
5:27 LU/Railtrack boundary? Railtrack haven't existed since 2002!
@mcbain23
@mcbain23 6 лет назад
cjmillsnun : you win 100 additional nerd points!
@kharmalade544
@kharmalade544 6 лет назад
Will it sort out the "delight" that is waiting for a train at Edgware Road and can the Circle Line become circular once again?
@robz7846
@robz7846 6 лет назад
No. Edgware Road will always be a Circle Ham and City Circle District Circle Ham and City District Circle District Ham and City clusterfuck.
@tantive4
@tantive4 6 лет назад
Squee! SSL moquette sofa!
@MagicaLucem
@MagicaLucem 6 лет назад
tantive4 It would be soo tempting to smuggle out that sofa .. but thru all those security fences...Ahh maybe not! Like the man said "Not gonna happen" sigh. Why is this so not at DFS?
@ianmcclavin
@ianmcclavin 6 лет назад
tantive4 I think there'd be a demand for them if they were to make then commercially available. I'd have one!!
@wooglefishes
@wooglefishes 6 лет назад
They do! www.ltmuseumshop.co.uk/homeware/moquette/moquette-pimlico-3-seater-sofa#selection=moquette_fabric:S%20Stock__39199
@pixoontube2912
@pixoontube2912 6 лет назад
Oh dammit, I want a S-Stock sofa too :-(
@benivanphillips
@benivanphillips 6 лет назад
Jay! Excited for the ‘plot’
@Cxp34
@Cxp34 6 лет назад
French connection - I see what you did there
@marcussheen
@marcussheen 6 лет назад
*WSMA* (wow, so many acronyms)
@thenotsocasualgamer877
@thenotsocasualgamer877 6 лет назад
Will it stop the signal failures tho
@pauls5981
@pauls5981 6 лет назад
Nice seeing my old manger mr Warner
@AlisonWheeler
@AlisonWheeler 6 лет назад
What happened to the Earl's Court line control?
@AlisonWheeler
@AlisonWheeler 6 лет назад
Geoff Marshall.. Ah, I thought it was a District line control. Ta!
@calvinhenry-cotnam9097
@calvinhenry-cotnam9097 4 года назад
Hey Geoff - love your videos.
@lionzion86
@lionzion86 6 лет назад
Pigeons pretending to be People
@NextSound170
@NextSound170 6 лет назад
Why do they call lines on LU 'Roads' ?
@84Knuckles
@84Knuckles 6 лет назад
UA they do on all networks.
@TheRagingWookie
@TheRagingWookie 6 лет назад
can you access trackinet?
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