I've got a 23 Rogue and love it. Of the 3 vehicle's its best by a mile. Set of Wranglers 265/65/18 biggest you can get, and yes, it slightly rubs on mud flap bolts. Straight through exhaust sounds nice, black windows and blue in colour. Ive never had a car where people come up, shit nice car mate..😂 wider track looks unreal and the carpet in tub i just love it. And im a Ford man, its better than my 22 next gen Ranger sport. Steve 👍👍
Hi Ronny, your 100% right it can't be difficult....in fact they have done it. The FJ cruiser A Track could be engaged with rear diff locl in low range and it works brilliant. Why not apply it to all 4x4's
Thanks Ronny, great review! Very interested to see what Toyota do in the next couple of years with the release of the all new Prado and eventually Hilux. Unfortunately I think Toyota’s mentality of “that will do” will disappoint once again…
Had to go the SR5 for the extra cab $65k. I do get there’s not a huge market for the extra cab Ute but I do get a little annoyed the extra cab is being left behind when it comes to fancy extras. I’d love the wider stance and disc brakes on an extra cab. Or even the V6 engine in the Ranger in an extra cab. But I’d rather throw the warranty out the window (I learnt with my lc200 Toyota warranty isn’t worth the conversation) and spend the extra money on some under bonnet upgrades, sound/usb/12v additions, interior upgrades, and maybe some wheels/suspension/flares/front bumper (rogue or gr) and paint protection and probably still come out with $$$ saved in the end.
Ronny the GR Sport also has vastly upgraded suspension too. I'm looking at replacing a 1997 TX Prado and the GR looks to have the edge, particularly for my off roading and towing a 19 foot off road caravan. You're usually concise and accurate, but you're well off the mark there.
Rouge over the sr5 ,wider track for better stability in high and low speed settings, rear disc brakes for better stopping especially when towing. 10k well spent
@@tcmx712 would you say the Ranger Raptor is softly sprung for off-road? It completes it at 85-90 km/h, which is surprisingly faster than a Range Rover. Look up Hilux Moose test and you'll find some scary videos. Compare it to the PX Ranger and you'll see that all utes aren't created equal. I would think the wider track on the Rogue would help.
you forgot to comment on the rear dics thats a 5k upgrade SR5 doesnt have wheel arch flares which makes a diffents when selecting tyre and rims for an upgrade. the Rogue if you remember was a soft roader design when it came out with the rugged x so they have keet the same theme, the problem is they dont have the Rugged x anymore which was the better of the two the GR is completely different from both the rugged x and the rogue it would be good to see toyota do a wide body Ruggedx with some GR features, your a 100% right about the power and torque , they need 200kw and 600nm and higher GVM maybe 3600kg great review i would like to know ifmore technical changes in the wideing of the track
I got the rogue and had Roh 18 inch rims and tyres fitted , when I picked it up the manager told me the tyres just rubbed and had to remove front mudflaps not happy
Great video mate. The reason Toyota’s rear locker turns off in low range is for durability. Toyota recon it protects the drivetrain in extreme conditions. Car looks awesome 👍
I laughed when I saw those Geolandars but I guess they weren't that bad in the end. Subaru used to (maybe still do?) put them on the Forester but that's entirely different class of vehicle.
I'd happily go for a grs. The three are "nearly" the same but i definitely love the look of the grs... and if it has the v6 petrol engine (with drums in the rear 😢) , that will be the perfect truck for beach, forest, sahara and the roads between them :)
If you reduce to 16 PSI and drive for a while on sand, the pressure in the tires is going to increase due to thermal expansion. There's some likelihood that you 've been driving with >> 20 PSI after a while. You might notice this when parking for a while and having more traction afterwards. Why does Toyota ship with road tires? I bet it's because of consumption. They can't allow to lose 2l/100km for putting adequate tires.
it's because if safety and crash test. if there is less rubber, the car is less likely to bounce of. If you have 19" wheel with low rubber you will pass the moose test easy. Same speed, same everything the car will tipp easier with more rubber in 16 oder 17 wheels. That's because.
Toyota have made a mistake in discontinuing the Rugged X and trying to replace it with the GR Sport. I won’t be replacing my Rugged X with the GR. GR is aimed at different type of buyer in my opinion.
I don’t understand why Toyota doesn’t standardise the V6 across the entire range. Crazy to think the new Mazda CX-60 has the choice of a straight 6 petrol and diesel with more power and torque than the hilux.
They come with mild all terrain/HT tires to achieve lower sound levels and fuel economy figures. All helps in advertising and car reviews etc. Also, how are we to take this serious if your are calling it the Hilux Rouge in the screen titles..I mean seriously, do some proof reading
Does Toyota really need me to design a real contender? Don't they have high paid people to do that? We are all screaming out for a V6 twin turbo Hilux with racing shocks to blow away the Raptor. Come on Toyota pull your finger out.
$13,000 of AfterMarket Mods to a SR5 would Probably create a far Superior Vehicle than the GRsport $50,000 of Aftermarket Mods on an Old Patrol/LandCruiser (etc) would Probably make an Even More Superior Vehicle.
Rogue for me main reason the brakes, rear sway bar, mild lift and stance rogue is a great platform to build up . I would need engineering to take a sr5 beyond what the rogue is stock
Imagine you are building up a Hilux in 2020 and you wanted to do all of the upgrades at your local custom engineering workshop. It would be a 30k investment. The rogue looks like a great investment to me. That’s why I ordered one.
Actually a cigarette lighter port is more adaptable. There are way better USB C converters that you can get than what vehicle manufacturers put in. With some converters you can charge laptops, up to 45W easily.
Whatever your choice, the next model will have additional features and a higher price. In the end they will all get you from A to B, far too much emphasis is placed on, for the most part, useless features which have nothing to do with durability. Revive a basic solid axle, wind up windows, manual transmission workhorse at a price thats affordable, Im sold. Infotainment systems, cruise control, cup holders, phone connectivity, etcetera, etcetera are all features, that I personally have little use for, and certainly don't care about what others think, in terms of status.
The Hilux definitely now feels overpriced and under-thought. I need to upgrade my ute and Im changing to a Ranger this year. Much better value for money.
While all the fanboys on here complaining what Toyota’s are missing, Toyota already knows this and do not care about you! They’re sitting back laughing at you about how hypnotised 😵💫 you are by the badge so they know they can get away with doing the bare minimum and continue jacking the price up, “oh what a feeling” 😂😂🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@TheLukaszpg the shell and driveline would be nissan but the motor would be an fully built and boosted toyota FTE.. best of both worlds if you ask me. Nothing stronger than a patrol driveline and no better motor than the FTE. Probably still have a bit of change from 80k too lol
The ranger and Nissan are the only utes the keep the front traction control on when you engage the rear locker been like this for years and people only just picking up on it
I think this is just a “fill in” ute until the all new one on the new 300/Prado frame. It would make financial sense to make the whole ute wider then to fit.
One thing you missed was the payload of each model various. SR5 has a payload of 1075kg GR Sport has a payload of 780kg That's a decent difference if you're thinking of adding accessories.
well you have to remember these are for bosses and managers, These are made for people who would rock up to job site and bark orders and leave. They will never will have fuck all in the back of the ute. Also having a roller shutter is useless as ute. You can fit fuck all in the back because anything slight taller wont fit with the roller door closed. Then if need a paller in the back the roller door is going to get in the way.
well would you spend 80k on a ite. That you can use as ute. Its prob the same as landcruiser that only takes the kids to school and back. @@TheLukaszpg
Great review mate. I'm looking at the GR version. My question - what is the tallest legal tyre size I can go up (GR factory tyre - 265/65 R17) without losing 6th gear as you stated in this review? Thanks mate onya
They are still in editing and take some time to finish. Been in Sydney for the show as well. Plan to have them out before and during Adelaide show in October
Just bought a SR5 Cruiser here in NZ (Your Aussie Rogue specification, sort of) Why? Discs all round (not horse and cart rear brakes) and the wider track front and rear plus the 25mm extra ground clearance. There's a $6,000 difference between the Cruiser and the standard SR5 here in Aotearoa and that was worth it just for the ride height and brakes, let alone the extra width and the improved suspension package. Is it worth it really? I'll let you know in 200,000 km.
Just bough the 48V 2024 Rogue, GR Sport was a lot more by the time you got any type of tub cover and other stuff the rogue has standard , plus it doesn't look as good side by side especially in the rear. The front grill looks pretty cool however. When it comes to the SR5, well the Rogues Brake upgrade, JBL system, Electric Roller Cover , Carpeted Tub, Upgraded Interior, Not just wider track but overall suspension setup, Colour choice, etc, Rogue comes out far better value. I went to buy a GR Sport but came out with a Rogue 48V. A rogue with proper aftermarket suspension and a proper tune, some proper 17s and ATs and you have a weapon, but that's not the GR Sport. In fact its a little embarrassing unfortunately that they didn't build a proper Baja to take on the Raptor. New 2025 Model maybe.
