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New HVAC RTU CHEAPER? install almost destroys Scroll Compressors! How to start 3 phase units 

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@throttlebottle5906
@throttlebottle5906 2 дня назад
reverse rotation = no refrigerant or oil flow, which also means no lubrication or cooling. the shows over pretty fast. 🤣
@HVAC559
@HVAC559 6 дней назад
Careful with that too, if the blower is a VFD the motor will spin the right direction, regardless of phase rotation. Punch compressor contactor and feel for a cool suction within seconds. A few weeks ago my eBay find a BK Precision Model 302. Tells rotation from power or you can spinn the motor to find its rotation.
@pairofjacks1006
@pairofjacks1006 5 дней назад
@@HVAC559 yes sir! Good comment... I watched and heard myself give the installer too much credit... they didn't switch anything for the blower.... the vfd fixed that. They simply didn't check, anything.
@Shawn_RHVAC
@Shawn_RHVAC 2 дня назад
Additional issue I find is the incorrect wiring on the transformer taps. 208/240 tabs.
@pairofjacks1006
@pairofjacks1006 День назад
@@Shawn_RHVAC I see that a lot, this was a 460 volt unit so no worries... I've come across those 230-volt units on the wrong tap for a decade and don't appear to have had any issues because of it, always best to put it on the right tap though. Thx for watching!
@TheDoghigh
@TheDoghigh 4 дня назад
if they go cheap they pay more later never fails
@pairofjacks1006
@pairofjacks1006 4 дня назад
@@TheDoghigh cheap always pays twice. Yep. Thx for the comment
@mxslick50
@mxslick50 6 дней назад
Since the blower is running on a VFD, it will always have correct rotation as 99.9% of VFDs don't care about incoming power phase rotation. You have to ALWAYS bump the compressors to verify they are correct.
@pairofjacks1006
@pairofjacks1006 5 дней назад
@@mxslick50 correct! Vfd will always put blower into correct rotation after start attempts..I said it wrong.. thx for the correction. As you said main point👉 Always check compressor rotation regardless of blower operation.
@timothygingras6939
@timothygingras6939 День назад
Who did the install? They’re the ones at fault unless the power company was responsible.
@pairofjacks1006
@pairofjacks1006 День назад
@@timothygingras6939 you skipped that part lol... the customer went with a cheaper install company who had no service department
@heatingairservices8708
@heatingairservices8708 День назад
wow 3 phase always always ck compressor rotation during commission / startup / sound of & pressures are the tell tell
@pairofjacks1006
@pairofjacks1006 День назад
@@heatingairservices8708 you'd think the sound alone makes it idiot proof..
@jorgejanicas8289
@jorgejanicas8289 6 дней назад
Great explanation, love the videos you share. An apprentice would learn so much working alongside you.
@pairofjacks1006
@pairofjacks1006 5 дней назад
@@jorgejanicas8289 thx , just trying to share what I can with my son and if others can get some good from it ... awesome!
@davejohnsonnola1536
@davejohnsonnola1536 2 часа назад
​@@pairofjacks1006old dog here, still learning things from you. Kudos for sharing.
@grantbrown-t2u
@grantbrown-t2u 6 дней назад
I don’t know why installers don’t realize it’s out of phase….
@B3nnywhit3
@B3nnywhit3 6 дней назад
because maybe they have no idea what they are doing is my take so why check that lol
@HVAC559
@HVAC559 6 дней назад
They hire guys straight out of "HVAC License School" and expect them to have a masters in HVAC.
@pairofjacks1006
@pairofjacks1006 5 дней назад
@@grantbrown-t2u important to remember most people do a good job... the one's who don't either aren't being taught, not being supervised or just... don't care. Makes the rest of us look bad....
@HVAC559
@HVAC559 5 дней назад
It takes a lot of knowledge to be a comercial HVAC tech, to the point that it is overwhelming for a new tech. You have to know how the refrigerant cycle works; how air behaves; how water vapor behaves; know the mechanical code; know plumbing; know electrical & the NEC; know controls modbus, backnet, 0-10 V dc, 2-10 V dc, 0-20 mA, or 4-20 mA; VFD's; economizer 's especially in Cali; you may still need to cool the space when it's 50° F outside; some companies you need to do refrigration. It goes on and on. Each brand has its little differences as well. We avoid some brands like TRANE because there's no tech support and there systems have non conventional controls. With TRANE, you had better have your decade box with you, because on some models RYGW is factory disabled! Refrigration is a whole beast in itself. The controls are not very complex and your evaporator is in the space so that makes it easier than HVAC, but there's spoiling product on the line. Everything is an emergency. If a walk-in is down at 3AM You have to go. Those contractors will even roll to a store at 3AM for HVAC because the chocolate will melt!
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